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(How-To Geek)   Apple still doesn't allow moveable, resizable windows on the upcoming iPadOS 15. Fortunately, you can now install Windows 3.1 over a version of DOSBox   (howtogeek.com) divider line
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399 clicks; posted to STEM » on 13 Jul 2021 at 8:43 AM (19 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-07-13 8:40:30 AM  
Next, how to get rid of the "Update to Windows 10" popup.....
 
2021-07-13 8:53:32 AM  
If you've never actually tried it, you might be surprised to find out that movable windows suck on a tablet or a phone. It's not a mouse and keyboard type of device so the Windows-Icon-Menu-Pointer model doesn't work. And a touch screen on a desktop OS doesn't really work, either. You might as well insist that airplanes and dune buggies should share controls because they both have cockpits.
 
2021-07-13 9:16:35 AM  

covfefe: If you've never actually tried it, you might be surprised to find out that movable windows suck on a tablet or a phone. It's not a mouse and keyboard type of device so the Windows-Icon-Menu-Pointer model doesn't work. And a touch screen on a desktop OS doesn't really work, either. You might as well insist that airplanes and dune buggies should share controls because they both have cockpits.


Cockpit, that's what everyone calls subby's mom.
 
2021-07-13 9:40:41 AM  
If it can mount an iso image as a virtual CD-ROM, I'm in. I adore '90s multimedia CD.
 
2021-07-13 9:47:48 AM  
Headline is wrong.  Article installs Windows 3.1 on a app called "iDOS2", not DOSBox.

Looks like this has been possible on Android for so long that the first few search results point to domains that have expired.  I'd dig a little deeper but fark, who cares.
 
2021-07-13 9:49:19 AM  
Movable re-sizable windows would just confuse the portion of the population that calls tech support.
 
2021-07-13 10:00:38 AM  
I would prefer Windows 98.  For some reason, that was my favorite windows.
 
2021-07-13 10:28:46 AM  

stuhayes2010: I would prefer Windows 98.  For some reason, that was my favorite windows.


My favorite are the triple-pane, thermal break frame ones we put in a house we used to own.  Don't remember the brand name, but they were sooo much better than the old single-pane, stuck-ass wood framed things we replaced.
 
2021-07-13 11:04:48 AM  
I've never seen the wisdom of buying devices that have to be tricked into doing anything useful.
 
2021-07-13 11:33:41 AM  
Why would the iPad have movable/resizable windows? It is not a computer.
 
2021-07-13 12:58:17 PM  

covfefe: If you've never actually tried it, you might be surprised to find out that movable windows suck on a tablet or a phone. It's not a mouse and keyboard type of device so the Windows-Icon-Menu-Pointer model doesn't work. And a touch screen on a desktop OS doesn't really work, either. You might as well insist that airplanes and dune buggies should share controls because they both have cockpits.


I have two Windows tablets and having moveable windows is great. But the choice is yours. You can have tablet mode were apps run full screen or split screen, or desktop mode where it has windows. Your choice. You get to choose depending on how you're using it and what you're doing. And doing stuff by touch works great.
 
2021-07-13 1:00:26 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: covfefe: If you've never actually tried it, you might be surprised to find out that movable windows suck on a tablet or a phone. It's not a mouse and keyboard type of device so the Windows-Icon-Menu-Pointer model doesn't work. And a touch screen on a desktop OS doesn't really work, either. You might as well insist that airplanes and dune buggies should share controls because they both have cockpits.

I have two Windows tablets and having moveable windows is great. But the choice is yours. You can have tablet mode were apps run full screen or split screen, or desktop mode where it has windows. Your choice. You get to choose depending on how you're using it and what you're doing. And doing stuff by touch works great.


I too have a Windows tablet - with mag-attach keyboard too.  Not particularly zippy but a workable blend of notebook and tablet.
 
2021-07-13 2:19:42 PM  

McGrits: Why would the iPad have movable/resizable windows? It is not a computer.


Better tell apple that.  
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2021-07-13 2:27:59 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: covfefe: If you've never actually tried it, you might be surprised to find out that movable windows suck on a tablet or a phone. It's not a mouse and keyboard type of device so the Windows-Icon-Menu-Pointer model doesn't work. And a touch screen on a desktop OS doesn't really work, either. You might as well insist that airplanes and dune buggies should share controls because they both have cockpits.

I have two Windows tablets and having moveable windows is great. But the choice is yours. You can have tablet mode were apps run full screen or split screen, or desktop mode where it has windows. Your choice. You get to choose depending on how you're using it and what you're doing. And doing stuff by touch works great.


So when there's a keyboard and mouse, it's desktop, but when it's a tablet, there's touch?
 
2021-07-13 2:39:20 PM  

covfefe: Carter Pewterschmidt: covfefe: If you've never actually tried it, you might be surprised to find out that movable windows suck on a tablet or a phone. It's not a mouse and keyboard type of device so the Windows-Icon-Menu-Pointer model doesn't work. And a touch screen on a desktop OS doesn't really work, either. You might as well insist that airplanes and dune buggies should share controls because they both have cockpits.

I have two Windows tablets and having moveable windows is great. But the choice is yours. You can have tablet mode were apps run full screen or split screen, or desktop mode where it has windows. Your choice. You get to choose depending on how you're using it and what you're doing. And doing stuff by touch works great.

So when there's a keyboard and mouse, it's desktop, but when it's a tablet, there's touch?


Even better. When there's a keyboard and touchpad, or full sized keyboard and a mouse, you can still use touch any time you want. It's great to be typing on a full sized keyboard and be able to just touch the screen to move something or scroll the page. It's up to you. All programs and mobile apps work in both UI.
And you can set it to switch automatically between tablet UI and desktop UI when you connect and disconnect the keyboard cover, or leave it in desktop mode all the time. Again, your choice.

Windows 11 apparently works in desktop mode but with added tablet features. I leave mine in desktop mode all the time so remains to be seen what difference that makes.
 
2021-07-13 2:43:48 PM  

SansNeural: Headline is wrong.  Article installs Windows 3.1 on a app called "iDOS2", not DOSBox.


Per the developer, iDOS 2 is based on DOSBox
 
2021-07-13 2:52:58 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: covfefe: Carter Pewterschmidt: covfefe: If you've never actually tried it, you might be surprised to find out that movable windows suck on a tablet or a phone. It's not a mouse and keyboard type of device so the Windows-Icon-Menu-Pointer model doesn't work. And a touch screen on a desktop OS doesn't really work, either. You might as well insist that airplanes and dune buggies should share controls because they both have cockpits.

I have two Windows tablets and having moveable windows is great. But the choice is yours. You can have tablet mode were apps run full screen or split screen, or desktop mode where it has windows. Your choice. You get to choose depending on how you're using it and what you're doing. And doing stuff by touch works great.

So when there's a keyboard and mouse, it's desktop, but when it's a tablet, there's touch?

Even better. When there's a keyboard and touchpad, or full sized keyboard and a mouse, you can still use touch any time you want. It's great to be typing on a full sized keyboard and be able to just touch the screen to move something or scroll the page. It's up to you. All programs and mobile apps work in both UI.
And you can set it to switch automatically between tablet UI and desktop UI when you connect and disconnect the keyboard cover, or leave it in desktop mode all the time. Again, your choice.

Windows 11 apparently works in desktop mode but with added tablet features. I leave mine in desktop mode all the time so remains to be seen what difference that makes.


I get that it's my choice, it just sucks. Adding touch to scroll a desktop is okay, just unnecessary. Adding mouse to control a touch screen is the same thing. But you need the mouse and keyboard for a desktop and you need the touch for the tablet, and that's not getting into the design of the interface in the first place.
 
2021-07-13 3:44:20 PM  
I just bought my first Mac (MacBook Air). While I like it overall, I'm amazed at how shiatty the window management is. I can't snap the window to an edge, and even still if I minimize a window or switch apps, sometimes that window/app disappears to someplace unfindable. Not even to Spaces.

And MacOS keyboard shortcuts are not that logical.
 
2021-07-13 4:01:48 PM  

skinink: I just bought my first Mac (MacBook Air). While I like it overall, I'm amazed at how shiatty the window management is. I can't snap the window to an edge, and even still if I minimize a window or switch apps, sometimes that window/app disappears to someplace unfindable. Not even to Spaces.

And MacOS keyboard shortcuts are not that logical.


Yeah, windows management sucks.  No more alt tabbing between two windows within an app.
 
2021-07-13 9:32:07 PM  

mjbok: skinink: I just bought my first Mac (MacBook Air). While I like it overall, I'm amazed at how shiatty the window management is. I can't snap the window to an edge, and even still if I minimize a window or switch apps, sometimes that window/app disappears to someplace unfindable. Not even to Spaces.

And MacOS keyboard shortcuts are not that logical.

Yeah, windows management sucks.  No more alt tabbing between two windows within an app.


Alt-Tabbing?  You do COMMAND+TAB to switch between windows (different applications) and COMMAND+' (tilde, the key right above tab) to switch between windows in the same app.  Or hit F3 to see all your open windows.  Or swipe 4 fingers on your trackpad to go between different workspaces.

For doing the whole "snap windows to the sides" thing, the easiest way is to hover over the maximize button.  It will bring up a context menu that offers to tile to either side of the screen, and then let you tile whatever you want on the other side.  Similar to what you get in MSWindos when you drag a title bar to the side.  There's also a third party app that adds that drag-and-functionality, but once I realized it was built in, I scrapped that pretty quickly.

I have similar frustrations at work using MSWindows, basically because of what I'm used to...  My biggest frustrations are the easy mac shortcuts that seem to have no equivalent.  For example,  the MSWindows method for entering any symbol not on the keyboard is clumsy - either you have a code where you hold down [ALT] and enter four digits like looking up produce at a checkout register, or you run charmap.exe and scroll until you find it.  Things like quickly typing a ¢ (Alt+4), a £(Alt+3), a º sign (Alt+0), or writing names like Citroën, Peña, or Beyoncé can be tricky on Windows, and remembering to CTRL-C, CTRL-X, CTRL-V instead of using the Command Key (which feels like it should be Alt) throws me off.

I still don't know how you type an emoji on Windows, but it usually doesn't come up in a professional environment. (Command+Control+Space) 🤷♂
 
2021-07-13 11:06:30 PM  

Izunbacol: I have similar frustrations at work using MSWindows, basically because of what I'm used to...  My biggest frustrations are the easy mac shortcuts that seem to have no equivalent.  For example,  the MSWindows method for entering any symbol not on the keyboard is clumsy - either you have a code where you hold down [ALT] and enter four digits like looking up produce at a checkout register, or you run charmap.exe and scroll until you find it.  Things like quickly typing a ¢ (Alt+4), a £(Alt+3), a º sign (Alt+0), or writing names like Citroën, Peña, or Beyoncé can be tricky on Windows, and remembering to CTRL-C, CTRL-X, CTRL-V instead of using the Command Key (which feels like it should be Alt) throws me off.

I still don't know how you type an emoji on Windows, but it usually doesn't come up in a professional environment. (Command+Control+Space) 🤷♂


Right click, menu opens, "Emoji" is at the top. Click that.

Or Win + period.

Opens up Emoji, symbols, special characters etc. Includes "Most Recent Used" for ones you use often.
 
2021-07-14 12:51:23 AM  

Izunbacol: mjbok: skinink: I just bought my first Mac (MacBook Air). While I like it overall, I'm amazed at how shiatty the window management is. I can't snap the window to an edge, and even still if I minimize a window or switch apps, sometimes that window/app disappears to someplace unfindable. Not even to Spaces.

And MacOS keyboard shortcuts are not that logical.

Yeah, windows management sucks.  No more alt tabbing between two windows within an app.

Alt-Tabbing?  You do COMMAND+TAB to switch between windows (different applications) and COMMAND+' (tilde, the key right above tab) to switch between windows in the same app.  Or hit F3 to see all your open windows.  Or swipe 4 fingers on your trackpad to go between different workspaces.

For doing the whole "snap windows to the sides" thing, the easiest way is to hover over the maximize button.  It will bring up a context menu that offers to tile to either side of the screen, and then let you tile whatever you want on the other side.  Similar to what you get in MSWindos when you drag a title bar to the side.  There's also a third party app that adds that drag-and-functionality, but once I realized it was built in, I scrapped that pretty quickly.

I have similar frustrations at work using MSWindows, basically because of what I'm used to...  My biggest frustrations are the easy mac shortcuts that seem to have no equivalent.  For example,  the MSWindows method for entering any symbol not on the keyboard is clumsy - either you have a code where you hold down [ALT] and enter four digits like looking up produce at a checkout register, or you run charmap.exe and scroll until you find it.  Things like quickly typing a ¢ (Alt+4), a £(Alt+3), a º sign (Alt+0), or writing names like Citroën, Peña, or Beyoncé can be tricky on Windows, and remembering to CTRL-C, CTRL-X, CTRL-V instead of using the Command Key (which feels like it should be Alt) throws me off.

I still don't know how you type an emoji on Windows, but it usually doesn't com ...


I actually looked up the Mac shortcuts, and do know about the Maximize button. But on Windows, The Windows button + any of the Arrow keys are a quick way to resize and/or relocate the current window, plus maximize or minimize a window.

As for uncommon characters, the Mac is better for that in simplicity. But there are also more than a few four keys keyboard shortcuts! If I have to press more than three keys for a command, I might as well be working in Terminal, typing in commands.
 
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