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(SFGate)   Finally, a fire in California not caused by a gender reveal party   (sfgate.com) divider line
    More: Spiffy, Lawn mower, Tractor, Mower, Redwood Valley, English-language films, Redwood Valley-Calpella Fire Department, Lawn, definitive cause of the blaze  
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2021-07-10 3:36:04 AM  
Finally, a fire in California where the people that started it did so entirely accidentally and not while doing stupid farking shiat, admitted to it quickly, sought help, and they got it under control - like sane humans would do.  Figures it's the weed farmers that would be the reasonable ones
 
2021-07-10 3:44:07 AM  
The golf club starting the fire was much more interesting.

It was also accidental, admitted to, the fire starter  sought help, and got the fire under control.  Figures it would be golfing boomer.
 
2021-07-10 3:59:11 AM  
Another Tesla on autopilot crashed and became a raging inferno?

Like that doesn't happen every day around here.
 
2021-07-10 4:00:29 AM  
They should have been using a rake. Live and learn I guess.
 
2021-07-10 4:05:14 AM  

maxandgrinch: The golf club starting the fire was much more interesting.

It was also accidental, admitted to, the fire starter  sought help, and got the fire under control.  Figures it would be golfing boomer.


Since I live here, I'm kinda more about the getting it under control and such than I am about interesting

/way south of that, but that doesn't make the fire danger any less
 
2021-07-10 4:13:21 AM  
So was it a boy, a girl, or anything in between?
 
2021-07-10 5:34:14 AM  
"Redwood Valley fire originated on our property, after the blades of a mower, operated by our employee, struck rock, causing a spark".

Reminiscent of "mistakes were made". "The fire originated", not "we started the fire". "The blades of a mower" caused a spark, not "we caused a spark".
 
2021-07-10 5:59:54 AM  

T Baggins: "Redwood Valley fire originated on our property, after the blades of a mower, operated by our employee, struck rock, causing a spark".

Reminiscent of "mistakes were made". "The fire originated", not "we started the fire". "The blades of a mower" caused a spark, not "we caused a spark".


In this case it's applicable.  They can't know where all the rocks are, they need to run the mowers regardless.  Fires caused by agricultural machines sparking off rocks and whatnot are dead common, and there's not really a lot they can do about it barring get them out ASAP.  It's not like they did dumb shiat here.
 
2021-07-10 6:23:13 AM  
So basically, a stoner sparked some grass!
 
2021-07-10 6:41:28 AM  
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2021-07-10 6:42:24 AM  
Just realized that if California's drought continues where they'd cut off water supply first.
 
2021-07-10 6:57:03 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: T Baggins: "Redwood Valley fire originated on our property, after the blades of a mower, operated by our employee, struck rock, causing a spark".

Reminiscent of "mistakes were made". "The fire originated", not "we started the fire". "The blades of a mower" caused a spark, not "we caused a spark".

In this case it's applicable.  They can't know where all the rocks are, they need to run the mowers regardless.  Fires caused by agricultural machines sparking off rocks and whatnot are dead common, and there's not really a lot they can do about it barring get them out ASAP.  It's not like they did dumb shiat here.


I wasn't saying they were doing dumb shiat, just that *they* started the fire, which their phrasing seems to downplay. But I'm doubtful that they "needed" to mow the lawn...they've been under a drought emergency since April, third year running. And even if there were a legal obligation to mow, there are precautions to reduce fire risk from mowing. Some dumb shiat decisions leading to the wildfire seem pretty likely.
 
2021-07-10 7:49:33 AM  
If your personal situation allows, please consider volunteering your time or money to the American Red Cross.
 
2021-07-10 7:49:57 AM  

T Baggins: But I'm doubtful that they "needed" to mow the lawn...they've been under a drought emergency since April, third year running. And even if there were a legal obligation to mow, there are precautions to reduce fire risk from mowing. Some dumb shiat decisions leading to the wildfire seem pretty likely.


Cannabis farms oddly enough have quite a lot of water already hitting the ground, a lawn would be a lagniappe and take no extra.  And there are no feasible precautions against hitting a rock - this isn't failure to drop a spark arrestor in or something.
 
2021-07-10 9:43:20 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Finally, a fire in California where the people that started it did so entirely accidentally and not while doing stupid farking shiat, admitted to it quickly, sought help, and they got it under control - like sane humans would do.  Figures it's the weed farmers that would be the reasonable ones


Flow aren't growers. Growers don't have lawns.
 
2021-07-10 10:11:32 AM  
Only a few miles from me -- I've been to the Broiler steakhouse often. (Very old school, good if you like that sort of thing.)
Flowkana aren't exactly good guys in the area. They've brought big corporate bucks into the pot biz, and made life a lot tougher for smaller operations through some questionable tactics.
So good on them for admitting it (not that they had much choice), but it definitely won't help their local reputation, and I'm not sorry about that.
 
2021-07-10 10:12:03 AM  

ThighsofGlory: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Finally, a fire in California where the people that started it did so entirely accidentally and not while doing stupid farking shiat, admitted to it quickly, sought help, and they got it under control - like sane humans would do.  Figures it's the weed farmers that would be the reasonable ones

Flow aren't growers. Growers don't have lawns.


Well if you're going to be like that, I retract the statement, because it was incorrect.  So there!
 
2021-07-10 10:38:34 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: T Baggins: "Redwood Valley fire originated on our property, after the blades of a mower, operated by our employee, struck rock, causing a spark".

Reminiscent of "mistakes were made". "The fire originated", not "we started the fire". "The blades of a mower" caused a spark, not "we caused a spark".

In this case it's applicable.  They can't know where all the rocks are, they need to run the mowers regardless.  Fires caused by agricultural machines sparking off rocks and whatnot are dead common, and there's not really a lot they can do about it barring get them out ASAP.  It's not like they did dumb shiat here.


They did do dumb shiat.   One of the basic rules of fire weather conditions is: don't do things that could strike rocks and throw sparks during the heat of the day.  Running lawnmowers or chainsaws is explicitly called out in the regulations.

That work must be done early in the morning when humidity is higher and temperatures are cooler.
 
2021-07-10 4:28:14 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: T Baggins: But I'm doubtful that they "needed" to mow the lawn...they've been under a drought emergency since April, third year running. And even if there were a legal obligation to mow, there are precautions to reduce fire risk from mowing. Some dumb shiat decisions leading to the wildfire seem pretty likely.

Cannabis farms oddly enough have quite a lot of water already hitting the ground, a lawn would be a lagniappe and take no extra.  And there are no feasible precautions against hitting a rock - this isn't failure to drop a spark arrestor in or something.


There are many risk reduction precautions. You could just not mow until the drought emergency is over, or not landscape with grass in an area prone to droughts and wildfire. Watering the lawn before mowing would reduce the risk of starting a fire. Having a ready garden hose within range, or a water-filled or class A fire extinguisher, could reduce the risk of a mower-sparked fire spreading. Keeping an eye out for rocks and removing or marking them for avoidance would help. Cutting the grass higher could reduce the chance of hitting rocks, or doing a first pass with a high cut if the grass is too tall to see rocks. Even the time of day can help a little; the governor's emergency declaration for the county said "If you're going to do your home preparation for defensible space, do that early in the morning so your mowers aren't striking a rock and causing a fire."
 
2021-07-10 8:52:45 PM  

ThighsofGlory: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Finally, a fire in California where the people that started it did so entirely accidentally and not while doing stupid farking shiat, admitted to it quickly, sought help, and they got it under control - like sane humans would do.  Figures it's the weed farmers that would be the reasonable ones

Flow aren't growers. Growers don't have lawns.


Having a lawn makes it look smaller in its natural state.
 
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