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2021-07-06 6:22:59 AM  
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2021-07-06 6:34:10 AM  
How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit
 
2021-07-06 6:56:12 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


Take a look at who Republicans voted for and I think that will answer it.
 
2021-07-06 7:09:49 AM  

enry: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

Take a look at who Republicans voted for and I think that will answer it.


So Donald Trump introduced and rolled out a vaccine programme and then told Republics to steer clear of being jabbed?
 
2021-07-06 7:12:56 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.
 
2021-07-06 7:17:38 AM  

colinspooky: enry: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

Take a look at who Republicans voted for and I think that will answer it.

So Donald Trump introduced and rolled out a vaccine programme and then told Republics to steer clear of being jabbed?


How often did he actually tell his blind followers to take the vaccine? If he did, it was under 4.
Heck, I think online social media actually slammed him for getting it.
 
2021-07-06 7:30:31 AM  

freddyV: colinspooky: enry: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

Take a look at who Republicans voted for and I think that will answer it.

So Donald Trump introduced and rolled out a vaccine programme and then told Republics to steer clear of being jabbed?

How often did he actually tell his blind followers to take the vaccine? If he did, it was under 4.
Heck, I think online social media actually slammed him for getting it.


Yeah that clown show got vaccinated in secret, instead of telling his followers to get it
 
2021-07-06 7:31:53 AM  

MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.


Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking
 
2021-07-06 7:32:46 AM  

colinspooky: enry: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

Take a look at who Republicans voted for and I think that will answer it.

So Donald Trump introduced and rolled out a vaccine programme and then told Republics to steer clear of being jabbed?


He himself, and his wife and youngest child, were vaccinated in secret. They didn't tell their followers. You have to understand, this guy is THAT much of a narcissistic megalomaniac that he demanded less testing during his time in office so his COVID numbers would be lower (he straight up did not try to hide having done this) then discouraged the vaccine and other preventative measures during Biden's term so Biden's COVID numbers would be higher. He's that evil.
 
2021-07-06 7:36:16 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


And for some balance ---- I am also stunned at the number of our British health workers and care home staff who are also, apparently, heavily vaccine hesitant - of all the sectors to be worried about it.
 
2021-07-06 7:37:36 AM  

colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking


If you don't already know what terrible people Republicans are, that's on you.
 
2021-07-06 7:38:54 AM  

colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking


Honest answer: He downplayed the seriousness of COVID since it first popped up. He stood on a balcony gasping visibly for breath, unmasked, and told his followers it was "no big deal."  After he only lived because of being given every Hail Mary treatment anyone could think of.

Not an insult but a fact: Republicans are more likely to blindly follow their leadership and likely to trust science, Democrats are more likely to read and accept what scientists are saying, and also to look to sources around the world for information, a thing that conservatives don't do.
 
2021-07-06 7:40:15 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


It's a broader problem of people who have, in general, been backed up against the wall in the sense that many of their preferred beliefs have been questioned by those claiming to have science on their side. In response, they are generically on the defensive about messages that come from "experts". Of course they defend themselves with cliche attacks on science where one week somebody says butter (or eggs) is bad for you and the next week it's good for you instead.

They are rebelling against being told what to do. This odd posture then makes it problematic to use science and data to get them to change their mind. They aren't necessarily against science, but they are against people who claim to know what the science says. So they seek out the answers for themselves but with a bias towards finding answers that conflict with what those 'know-it-alls' have been telling them.

My ex spent her life doing biological research, much of it involving immunology and inclusive of clinical research. Her 90 year old father is now staying with her. He's unvaccinated. She wants him vaccinated, so does one other sister. But she's got yet another sister and brother who have been poisoning his mind. He's not as sharp as he used to be, his short term memory is mostly shot. But he's still be sold on the vaccine being bad.

The ex is the only one of her sibs who has the proper education to know. She really knows this stuff better than your average immunology professor. But she's never been the type to assert herself. Still, it sickens me. It a gross disrespect to her. It's also so wrong to not have him vaccinated. I wish I could do something but I'm the last person to be able to convince my ex of anything. I think she's gonna get him vaccinated but her foolish brother and sister have threatened legal action is she does it. And they're supposed to help out with care in the future. As reasoning won't work with them, I'm considering a physical beating. It won't work either but it would make me feel better.
 
2021-07-06 7:44:19 AM  
The good news is that this will probably be a self-correcting problem.
 
2021-07-06 7:51:01 AM  

namegoeshere: colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking

Honest answer: He downplayed the seriousness of COVID since it first popped up. He stood on a balcony gasping visibly for breath, unmasked, and told his followers it was "no big deal."  After he only lived because of being given every Hail Mary treatment anyone could think of.

Not an insult but a fact: Republicans are more likely to blindly follow their leadership and likely to trust science, Democrats are more likely to read and accept what scientists are saying, and also to look to sources around the world for information, a thing that conservatives don't do.


LESS likely to trust science!!
 
2021-07-06 7:54:12 AM  

colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking


Sorry. I thought it was obvious. Certain people (Trump and his Conservatives) weaponized the issue to solidify their base of support. That's where the division comes from.

You can say you're not taking sides, but when one side is saying "Get vaccinated. It saves lives and will hasten return to normalcy" and the others are saying "It's a liberal plot to take your freedoms away!", it's kind of unfair to claim both sides are bad.
 
2021-07-06 7:59:37 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


Have you met our republican party?
 
2021-07-06 8:31:48 AM  

colinspooky: enry: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

Take a look at who Republicans voted for and I think that will answer it.

So Donald Trump introduced and rolled out a vaccine programme and then told Republics to steer clear of being jabbed?


As others said, he didn't do much to promote healthy habits like masking.

This is also the guy that told his followers to take hydroxychloroquine and jam UV lights up their butts.  Even after he came down with it, nearly died, and got back to the White House, he continued to say it wasn't a big deal.

The left has their anti-vaxxers, no doubt, but they aren't in the same numbers as in the Republican party.
 
2021-07-06 8:36:16 AM  
But all of the news stories I've seen on teevee recently say it's the young adults that don't want to be vaccinated.  They can't all be Young Republicans, can they?
 
2021-07-06 8:36:59 AM  
As a Canadian, the US turning the vaccines into a political debate is endlessly confusing to me.  My entire family has had their second dose, including my very conservative mother.  There was no debate, no arguments, no nonsense.  Once we could get our shots, we got them.  The vast majority of the province and country is doing the same.

US gonna US I suppose.
 
2021-07-06 8:38:46 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


It's not about personal politics, it's about where you get your information from.

The same right wing media channels that are spewing disinformation on immigration and the election also decided that COVID was politically inconvenient, and branded it a socialist hoax to take away your freedom.

And a lot of people listen to those right wing medial channels, and only to them.  So here we are.
 
2021-07-06 8:39:31 AM  

namegoeshere: colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking

Honest answer: He downplayed the seriousness of COVID since it first popped up. He stood on a balcony gasping visibly for breath, unmasked, and told his followers it was "no big deal."  After he only lived because of being given every Hail Mary treatment anyone could think of.

Not an insult but a fact: Republicans are more likely to blindly follow their leadership and likely to trust science, Democrats are more likely to read and accept what scientists are saying, and also to look to sources around the world for information, a thing that conservatives don't do.


I wonder how many lives would have been saved if he had died when he had covid.
 
2021-07-06 8:39:32 AM  
The anti vax crowd are cultivating the variant that we all fear.
 
2021-07-06 8:39:53 AM  

colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking


You asked why an issue was so divisive, then complain about divisive replies.

Maybe politics isn't for you...
 
2021-07-06 8:40:20 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


Heard a hypothesis the other day.

Politics has replaced religion in American public life.  Oh, lots of people are still whatever creed or denominations, but we no longer have Catholic neighborhoods or Jewish neighborhoods.  We don't have clubs and universities that are exclusive.  So if you want to really belong to something in a visceral way, you use political allegiance.  You no longer make a pilgrimage to a religious site, but you do to a Trump rally or an NPR taping.

And there's no stubbornness like religious stubbornness.
 
2021-07-06 8:40:33 AM  

Farking Clown Shoes: The good news is that this will probably be a self-correcting problem.


You say that like unvaxxed people - people who, if they do get COVID, will be incubators of the virus for a longer period of time than the vaxxed - aren't going to make the problem worse by providing us with new mutations.
 
2021-07-06 8:41:13 AM  

colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking


You're right, in that its probably not fair to say 100% of Republicans are awful. There is likely a small fraction of Republicans who are genuinely good people and genuinely think they're vote is the right vote, but are also completely oblivious of the terrible shiat their party is doing.
 
2021-07-06 8:42:12 AM  

danielem1: namegoeshere: colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking

Honest answer: He downplayed the seriousness of COVID since it first popped up. He stood on a balcony gasping visibly for breath, unmasked, and told his followers it was "no big deal."  After he only lived because of being given every Hail Mary treatment anyone could think of.

Not an insult but a fact: Republicans are more likely to blindly follow their leadership and likely to trust science, Democrats are more likely to read and accept what scientists are saying, and also to look to sources around the world for information, a thing that conservatives don't do.

I wonder how many lives would have been saved if he had died when he had covid.


All the people killed in the Cookoo Coup, for starters.
 
2021-07-06 8:42:16 AM  
If you ever look at fox news comments for a chuckle you will notice that they always say something like "99% survivability!", they are still very much operating on the belief of it's no big deal.
 
2021-07-06 8:42:25 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


Getting the vaccine is accepting that the virus actually exists, and is not a Democrat hoax, like dear leader said.

No point in trying to use logic or reason with these morons.

However, it would be interesting to know what their price was.  I bet that there are a significant number who would get vaccinated for $1,000,000 tax free cash.

Hope this helps with the debaffling.
 
2021-07-06 8:42:34 AM  
Thoughts and prayers.

I wonder what the Venn diagram looks like.

I'm guessing the wealthier, older and educated (healthier) Republicans got the shot. The unhealtheir Team MAGA did not.
 
2021-07-06 8:42:59 AM  
So there's a more than 50% chance that any right winger you meet or talk to in person is a literal plague spreader. farking gross.

Sorry not sorry but the motherfarkers should be ostracized, treated like farking pariahs and have rotten vegetables thrown at them in public while people shout "UNCLEAN" and drive them out of stores and public places.
 
2021-07-06 8:43:13 AM  
I don't see a problem here. If Republicans get covid, that's fine with me.
 
2021-07-06 8:43:19 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


Because I am seeing a hive minded cult ruled by fear, racism, bigotry, hatred, feelings and sheer ignorance and stupidity...among many other things that bind these like minded people together into a brand or a team for their warped sense of patriotism is. They reject science and medicine but will run to it after they catch Covid or it's variants...and expect their government or their healthcare to pay the tab of their utter stupidity.
They are the lowest of the lowest common denominator of the people in America and Delta just might remove them from the face of the earth.
 
2021-07-06 8:44:52 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


Trump shat the bed with his Weeners to CoViD.

Authoritarians (followers and leaders) are incapable of acknowledging mistakes made by their leaders.

So instead of correcting course on the Covid response they've spent the last year+ pretending it's no worse than the common cold or a mild flu.

Hence their opposition to wearing masks - because that would be a visible admission Covid is serious, and also their opposition to vaccines- particularly since the initial vaccine rollout was also botched so they're pretending they never needed the vaccines to start with.

Coupled in with this - the GOP base has been heavily sucked into wild conspiracy theories and the generic anti-vaxxers have managed to establish a strong foothold in the party and are successfully spreading general hostility towards vaccines through the Republican base.
 
2021-07-06 8:45:04 AM  

colinspooky: enry: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

Take a look at who Republicans voted for and I think that will answer it.

So Donald Trump introduced and rolled out a vaccine programme and then told Republics to steer clear of being jabbed?


He voted by mail while claiming that voting by mail isn't safe. These aren't smart or clever people.
 
2021-07-06 8:45:44 AM  

colinspooky: enry: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

Take a look at who Republicans voted for and I think that will answer it.

So Donald Trump introduced and rolled out a vaccine programme and then told Republics to steer clear of being jabbed?


Basically yes
 
2021-07-06 8:46:05 AM  
 
2021-07-06 8:46:09 AM  

Fisty Bum: As a Canadian, the US turning the vaccines into a political debate is endlessly confusing to me.  My entire family has had their second dose, including my very conservative mother.  There was no debate, no arguments, no nonsense.  Once we could get our shots, we got them.  The vast majority of the province and country is doing the same.

US gonna US I suppose.


I get my second dose on Sunday. Vaccines work this was settled science. My theory is that vaccines have worked so well that people dont see why they are needed anymore. I can't understand why people that lived through polio are questing vaccines though they'd have been the last generation to have seen what a miracle vaccines are for humanity.
 
2021-07-06 8:46:24 AM  
So seriously. Has anyone done a study on the political breakdown of infected and dead victims of covid?

In the coming months I could see a rise in deaths among Republicans and that in turn could muck with the electorate.
 
2021-07-06 8:46:31 AM  

colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit


That must have been a very nice cave you've living in for the last 12 years.
 
2021-07-06 8:47:35 AM  
I'm genuinely okay with this.  The more GQPers who die of COVID before the next round of elections, the better.
 
2021-07-06 8:47:40 AM  
This is how the left wins. When reality asserts itself and massive swaths of republican voters die and/or need lifelong care for heart and long issues the talking points will shift and medical care for all will suddenly be a good thing. I'm just here to enjoy reading the numbers a year from now with how covid variants have run rampant through republican voters.....
 
2021-07-06 8:48:35 AM  
Darwin smiles.
 
2021-07-06 8:48:54 AM  

Headso: If you ever look at fox news comments for a chuckle you will notice that they always say something like "99% survivability!", they are still very much operating on the belief of it's no big deal.


That's cause their heroes that had it are laughing it off...Trump, Nugent, etc
 
2021-07-06 8:49:14 AM  

CarnySaur: But all of the news stories I've seen on teevee recently say it's the young adults that don't want to be vaccinated.  They can't all be Young Republicans, can they?


I know a young guy who's basically apolitical. I doubt he's ever voted. He's refusing to vax and I tried to get out a reason why. It was a gamut of all the crazy shiat: 5G, microchips, Tuskegee, I'm young and tough, autism, why bother?, ain't nobody got time for that, etc. I think the big issue is that the majority of America has an extremely limited knowledge of the biological sciences while also being immersed on a constant diet of misinformation through Facebook and others.
 
2021-07-06 8:49:22 AM  

colinspooky: MrBallou: colinspooky: How can this be split so widely by personal politics?   Was the sample skewed? Genuine question by baffled Brit

45% of Republicans are genuine idiots. 55% are dishonest hypocrites with an agenda.

Guessing this is spoken like a true Democrat  --- I do not have a fave, in fact, I don't care. But this is just a divisive political statement that completely ignores my original question, which I am already regretting asking


The fark does a brit know?

You asked a question and got an honest answer. The Republican party leadership made it a point to downplay the pandemic and literally told old people to go out there and die for the USA economy. Then they downplayed the vaccine and did everything they could to fark up the roll out of the vaccine and made it a point to not say they were getting it.
 
2021-07-06 8:50:15 AM  
So is the 7% of Democrats and 4% of Republicans that plan on getting shots but haven't yet the stoners?
 
2021-07-06 8:50:31 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Farking Clown Shoes: The good news is that this will probably be a self-correcting problem.

You say that like unvaxxed people - people who, if they do get COVID, will be incubators of the virus for a longer period of time than the vaxxed - aren't going to make the problem worse by providing us with new mutations.


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2021-07-06 8:50:32 AM  

accountblocked: This is how the left wins.


Actually, we always win by always being on the side of the historically inevitable - but that will do nicely, too.
 
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