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(News.com.au)   Inside Shenzhen, China's glittering showcase metropolis intended to impress the world, which is intended to marry communism and capitalism. Yeah, not so glittering   (news.com.au) divider line
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2021-07-04 7:04:39 AM  
So the New York of Asia then.  Good to know.
 
2021-07-04 8:10:19 AM  
You have to bash a few skulls bloody to make an omelet.
 
2021-07-04 8:21:46 AM  
FTA:
"The 996 culture in mainland China means working 9am to 9pm, six days a week and it's something that a lot of tech companies do," she explained.
"That culture has caused a lot of controversy because it's incredibly gruelling and glorifies a toxic workplace environment.
"Yet at the same time, so many young grads dream of working in one of these tech companies so it's really competitive to get a job."


I know some folks who would love to get one of those jobs.  They're ready for some shorter work hours then they have in Silicon Valley.
 
2021-07-04 8:48:51 AM  
So China's a shiathole. Got it.
 
2021-07-04 8:49:16 AM  
China debate in Australia "extremely concerning"
Ms Wong said she was concerned about the level of dialogue in Australia about China.
"There are some very, very important debates we need to have as Australians, in terms of how we grapple with an increasingly aggressive Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and what that means for Australia," she said.
"But what I find extremely concerning is when politicians confuse the debate by questioning the loyalties of all Australians of Chinese heritage, thinking that this group of Australians represents the CCP.
"This is just plain wrong: many of these Australians or their ancestors actually fled China under the party for a better life in Australia.
Despite the hassle from the Chinese authorities, and the detention of Ms Lei - who has been behind bars for nine months on suspicion of "illegally supplying state secrets" but has not yet been charged - Ms Wong said she was still keen to get across the border and back to Shenzhen, its skyscrapers and tech giants.
"Am I scared?" said Ms Wong.
"It does seem geopolitics is getting in the middle of some people's ability to cover the story.
"However, as an Australian, I feel very strongly that we need to have journalists on the ground in China."

Anyone shocked that they saved this for the very last paragraph?

/google "white Australia policy"
 
2021-07-04 8:49:22 AM  
It's half the size of Wagga Wagga.

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2021-07-04 8:52:49 AM  
30,000 to 13 million in 4 decades?

whoa
 
2021-07-04 8:56:22 AM  
There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too
 
2021-07-04 8:59:10 AM  
In the latest attempt to steal American technology, a number of people working 996 are checking out and working somewhere else that's less strenuous.
 
2021-07-04 8:59:34 AM  
china sucks. that's why we all left over 5 years ago.
 
2021-07-04 9:05:33 AM  
Did the obvious tag get taken in for questioning?
 
2021-07-04 9:08:32 AM  
China is all hat and no cattle.
 
2021-07-04 9:10:06 AM  
Remember when China claimed the Communist Party was pro-worker?  Pepperidge Farms doesn't remember after a stint in a re-education camp.
 
2021-07-04 9:13:10 AM  
It's shameful of China to have pride in anything when they have the most people incarcerated of any nation-state, in total or per capita.
 
2021-07-04 9:21:29 AM  
Xi Jin Pi and I have very different ideas regarding 996 culture.  
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2021-07-04 9:29:01 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too


I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est
 
2021-07-04 9:31:59 AM  
"Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...
 
2021-07-04 9:34:05 AM  
The US always had this delusion that opening up China's markets to the world would help Capitalism and Democracy settle in. 

Capitalism has, but the authoritarian system has doubled down and actually influences the West now, with American companies and celebrities bowing down to the Beijing government's demands on speech. 

Troubling stuff.
 
2021-07-04 9:34:34 AM  
ACAB?
 
2021-07-04 9:39:38 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: "Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...


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2021-07-04 9:40:03 AM  
They should try using "flex time" like tech companies in the U.S. That means you can choose whatever 60+ hours a week you want to work.
 
2021-07-04 9:52:27 AM  

Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est


As long as it doesn't require a world war to accomplish, I'm fine with that.

If it does, we are all farked.  Bent over without lube.  The Chinese Army is one of, if not the, largest in the world, and one of the best equipped.  Yes, their sea capabilities, outside of their direct zone of control, suck, but that doesn't matter if it degenerates into a land war.

Any land war, where you have a *billion* plus potential combatants popping out of a farking hole at any time is a war you lose, unless you use the nuclear option... in which case, so do they.

Hell, once any combat hits mainland, they might do that at any time they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

On the plus side, the resulting ash clouds might combat a significant amount of global warming.
 
2021-07-04 9:53:06 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Mr. Shabooboo: "Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...

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While shiatty, it's still better than China.
 
2021-07-04 9:57:17 AM  

Dadoody: The US always had this delusion that opening up China's markets to the world would help Capitalism and Democracy settle in. 

Capitalism has, but the authoritarian system has doubled down and actually influences the West now, with American companies and celebrities bowing down to the Beijing government's demands on speech. 

Troubling stuff.


How do you know that wasn't the point? It's not like Kissinger was ever a fan of democracy.
 
2021-07-04 9:59:22 AM  

NuclearPenguins: leeksfromchichis: Mr. Shabooboo: "Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...

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While shiatty, it's still better than China.


howso?
 
2021-07-04 10:00:46 AM  

GrogSmash: Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est

As long as it doesn't require a world war to accomplish, I'm fine with that.

If it does, we are all farked.  Bent over without lube.  The Chinese Army is one of, if not the, largest in the world, and one of the best equipped.  Yes, their sea capabilities, outside of their direct zone of control, suck, but that doesn't matter if it degenerates into a land war.

Any land war, where you have a *billion* plus potential combatants popping out of a farking hole at any time is a war you lose, unless you use the nuclear option... in which case, so do they.

Hell, once any combat hits mainland, they might do that at any time they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

On the plus side, the resulting ash clouds might combat a significant amount of global warming.


Well, if the Chinese have enough military-age men "lying flat" as described a couple threads above, maybe their military isn't as powerful as you make it out to be.  You're right, though, this is a problem best solved inside China rather than dragging the rest of the world down with it.  One way or another, though, it's going to have to be solved.

/Sina delenda est
 
2021-07-04 10:01:18 AM  

leeksfromchichis: NuclearPenguins: leeksfromchichis: Mr. Shabooboo: "Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...

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While shiatty, it's still better than China.

howso?


The people in that photo have a much better chance of making it to the end of the day without a bullet in the back of their skull and a bill for the bullet sent to their families.
 
2021-07-04 10:03:30 AM  

leeksfromchichis: NuclearPenguins: leeksfromchichis: Mr. Shabooboo: "Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 768x400]

While shiatty, it's still better than China.

howso?


You haven't disappeared for posting the picture.
 
2021-07-04 10:05:20 AM  

Bondith: leeksfromchichis: NuclearPenguins: leeksfromchichis: Mr. Shabooboo: "Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 768x400]

While shiatty, it's still better than China.

howso?

The people in that photo have a much better chance of making it to the end of the day without a bullet in the back of their skull and a bill for the bullet sent to their families.


Unlikely
 
2021-07-04 10:08:55 AM  

Dr.Fey: FTA:
"The 996 culture in mainland China means working 9am to 9pm, six days a week and it's something that a lot of tech companies do," she explained.
"That culture has caused a lot of controversy because it's incredibly gruelling and glorifies a toxic workplace environment.
"Yet at the same time, so many young grads dream of working in one of these tech companies so it's really competitive to get a job."

I know some folks who would love to get one of those jobs.  They're ready for some shorter work hours then they have in Silicon Valley.


The silicon valley work model is half a lie. I tell my leads I don't want their teams working more than 40 hours a week. We draw up plans and time tables and we always ask, 'is this something you can complete in 40 hours?'.

The problem is that no one out here knows how to work smart. It takes them 60 hours to complete what any actual decent developer can do in 40. Companies see people working 60 hours a week and think, 'look how much our people LIVE to be a part of our industry'. No you idiots you just hire shiatey workers!!

It's easier (hint: cheaper) to work a room of idiots to death than it is to hire real talent because they've heard you work people to death plus they expect things like career development, raises, work/life balance etc
 
2021-07-04 10:10:21 AM  

Mouser: GrogSmash: Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est

As long as it doesn't require a world war to accomplish, I'm fine with that.

If it does, we are all farked.  Bent over without lube.  The Chinese Army is one of, if not the, largest in the world, and one of the best equipped.  Yes, their sea capabilities, outside of their direct zone of control, suck, but that doesn't matter if it degenerates into a land war.

Any land war, where you have a *billion* plus potential combatants popping out of a farking hole at any time is a war you lose, unless you use the nuclear option... in which case, so do they.

Hell, once any combat hits mainland, they might do that at any time they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

On the plus side, the resulting ash clouds might combat a significant amount of global warming.

Well, if the Chinese have enough military-age men "lying flat" as described a couple threads above, maybe their military isn't as powerful as you make it out to be.  You're right, though, this is a problem best solved inside China rather than dragging the rest of the world down with it.  One way or another, though, it's going to have to be solved.

/Sina delenda est


"Military-age men"?

Me thinks you are talking about a conventional war.  A land war in China would not be contentional.

When I say "combatant", I mean... little one granny, hobbling with a cane, with an IED in her purse.  Grandpa from the country, armed with an old hunting rifle.  That hot little thing you just picked up on the corner for some fun time with the troops at best armed with a knife you didn't see, at worst, knowingly infected with something, for the chance to infect as many idiots as possible to degrade troop performance.

Indoctrination runs deep in that country, and I'm not just talking the bs of the CCP.  China is farking OLD.  You fark with China in a land war, and you will get serious pushback from the civilian population.

Imagine Vietnam.  With a half billion Viet Cong.  That is the farking meatgrinder you would be lowering your genitals into before hitting the "Puree" button.
 
2021-07-04 10:10:47 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Bondith: leeksfromchichis: NuclearPenguins: leeksfromchichis: Mr. Shabooboo: "Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 768x400]

While shiatty, it's still better than China.

howso?

The people in that photo have a much better chance of making it to the end of the day without a bullet in the back of their skull and a bill for the bullet sent to their families.

Unlikely


Are they holding your family in a camp in Xinjiang?  Blink twice for yes.
 
2021-07-04 10:18:21 AM  
Cargo cult superpower.
 
2021-07-04 10:20:44 AM  

GrogSmash: Mouser: GrogSmash: Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est

As long as it doesn't require a world war to accomplish, I'm fine with that.

If it does, we are all farked.  Bent over without lube.  The Chinese Army is one of, if not the, largest in the world, and one of the best equipped.  Yes, their sea capabilities, outside of their direct zone of control, suck, but that doesn't matter if it degenerates into a land war.

Any land war, where you have a *billion* plus potential combatants popping out of a farking hole at any time is a war you lose, unless you use the nuclear option... in which case, so do they.

Hell, once any combat hits mainland, they might do that at any time they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

On the plus side, the resulting ash clouds might combat a significant amount of global warming.

Well, if the Chinese have enough military-age men "lying flat" as described a couple threads above, maybe their military isn't as powerful as you make it out to be.  You're right, though, this is a problem best solved inside China rather than dragging the rest of the world down with it.  One way or another, though, it's going to have to be solved.

/Sina delenda est

"Military-age men"?

Me thinks you are talking about a conventional war.  A land war in China would not be contentional.

When I say "combatant", I mean... little one granny, hobbling with a cane, with an IED in her purse.  Grandpa from the country, armed with an old hunting rifle.  That hot little thing you just picked up on the corner for some fun time with the troops at best armed with a knife you didn't see, at worst, knowingly infected with something, for the chance to infect as many idiots as possible to degrade troop performance.

Indoctrination runs deep in that country, and I'm not just talking the bs of the CCP.  China is farking OLD.  You fark with China in a land war, and you will get serious pushback from the civilian population.

Imagine Vietnam.  With a half billion Viet Cong.  That is the farking meatgrinder you would be lowering your genitals into before hitting the "Puree" button.


Imagine My Lai but the victims were Americans.
 
2021-07-04 10:28:51 AM  

leeksfromchichis: GrogSmash: Mouser: GrogSmash: Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: <snip>


Basically, yes.  There would be some, if not most, of the worst possible aspects of ground fighting imaginable, from both sides.  A land war in China would pretty much be the definition of "Hell on earth".

And, just for shiats and giggles, I do believe they have violated conventions regarding biowarfare.  No, I don't believe Covid-19 is manmade.  That was most likely a farkup of epic proportions by the staff at the lab in question regarding a natural virus.  That being said, it's pretty much guaranteed that they have cooked up a few surprises, and again, if they thought they were losing, would happily release them, their own population be damned.  The same applies to chemical weapons.

Hell, are they even signatories of those particular accords?
 
2021-07-04 10:29:13 AM  

leeksfromchichis: GrogSmash: Mouser: GrogSmash: Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est

As long as it doesn't require a world war to accomplish, I'm fine with that.

If it does, we are all farked.  Bent over without lube.  The Chinese Army is one of, if not the, largest in the world, and one of the best equipped.  Yes, their sea capabilities, outside of their direct zone of control, suck, but that doesn't matter if it degenerates into a land war.

Any land war, where you have a *billion* plus potential combatants popping out of a farking hole at any time is a war you lose, unless you use the nuclear option... in which case, so do they.

Hell, once any combat hits mainland, they might do that at any time they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

On the plus side, the resulting ash clouds might combat a significant amount of global warming.

Well, if the Chinese have enough military-age men "lying flat" as described a couple threads above, maybe their military isn't as powerful as you make it out to be.  You're right, though, this is a problem best solved inside China rather than dragging the rest of the world down with it.  One way or another, though, it's going to have to be solved.

/Sina delenda est

"Military-age men"?

Me thinks you are talking about a conventional war.  A land war in China would not be contentional.

When I say "combatant", I mean... little one granny, hobbling with a cane, with an IED in her purse.  Grandpa from the country, armed with an old hunting rifle.  That hot little thing you just picked up on the corner for some fun time with the troops at best armed with a knife you didn't see, at worst, knowingly infected with something, for the chance to infect as many idiots as possible to degrade troop performance.

Indoctrination runs deep in that country, and I'm not just talking the bs of the CCP.  China is farking OLD.  You fark with China in a land war, and you will get serious pushback from the civilian population.

Imagine Vietnam.  With a half billion Viet Cong.  That is the farking meatgrinder you would be lowering your genitals into before hitting the "Puree" button.

Imagine My Lai but the victims were Americans.


I mean from a non violent, redirection of energy sorr of way, if you want to effectively end the injustice of China, end the injustice here.

Stop US prison labor for starters. It's slavery.

Tax any business that offshores, funnel that money to subsidize companies that willingly onshore (reshore?). Double that punitive tax rate for anyone doing business in countries that have forced labor. We shouldn't depend on other nations for tech fabrication. It's time to bring it home and do it correctly environmentally and socially.

End billionaires here by taxation. Being a hundred millionaire is enough for anyone. Spread that money around in schools, urban infrastructure, and programs until there's something that looks like a middle class again in the USA.

China will self-reform under that market pressure.
 
2021-07-04 10:37:07 AM  

yohohogreengiant: leeksfromchichis: GrogSmash: Mouser: GrogSmash: Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est

As long as it doesn't require a world war to accomplish, I'm fine with that.

If it does, we are all farked.  Bent over without lube.  The Chinese Army is one of, if not the, largest in the world, and one of the best equipped.  Yes, their sea capabilities, outside of their direct zone of control, suck, but that doesn't matter if it degenerates into a land war.

Any land war, where you have a *billion* plus potential combatants popping out of a farking hole at any time is a war you lose, unless you use the nuclear option... in which case, so do they.

Hell, once any combat hits mainland, they might do that at any time they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

On the plus side, the resulting ash clouds might combat a significant amount of global warming.

Well, if the Chinese have enough military-age men "lying flat" as described a couple threads above, maybe their military isn't as powerful as you make it out to be.  You're right, though, this is a problem best solved inside China rather than dragging the rest of the world down with it.  One way or another, though, it's going to have to be solved.

/Sina delenda est

"Military-age men"?

Me thinks you are talking about a conventional war.  A land war in China would not be contentional.

When I say "combatant", I mean... little one granny, hobbling with a cane, with an IED in her purse.  Grandpa from the country, armed with an old hunting rifle.  That hot little thing you just picked up on the corner for some fun time with the troops at best armed with a knife you didn't see, at worst, knowingly infected with something, for the c ...


Main issue here... the billionaires who elect the politicians would have to agree to being taxed like the rest of the plebs, and their shareholders to taking the massive hit to the stock prices once labour costs go up to non-slave labour costs.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!
 
2021-07-04 10:47:16 AM  

GrogSmash: yohohogreengiant: leeksfromchichis: GrogSmash: Mouser: GrogSmash: Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est

As long as it doesn't require a world war to accomplish, I'm fine with that.

If it does, we are all farked.  Bent over without lube.  The Chinese Army is one of, if not the, largest in the world, and one of the best equipped.  Yes, their sea capabilities, outside of their direct zone of control, suck, but that doesn't matter if it degenerates into a land war.

Any land war, where you have a *billion* plus potential combatants popping out of a farking hole at any time is a war you lose, unless you use the nuclear option... in which case, so do they.

Hell, once any combat hits mainland, they might do that at any time they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

On the plus side, the resulting ash clouds might combat a significant amount of global warming.

Well, if the Chinese have enough military-age men "lying flat" as described a couple threads above, maybe their military isn't as powerful as you make it out to be.  You're right, though, this is a problem best solved inside China rather than dragging the rest of the world down with it.  One way or another, though, it's going to have to be solved.

/Sina delenda est

"Military-age men"?

Me thinks you are talking about a conventional war.  A land war in China would not be contentional.

When I say "combatant", I mean... little one granny, hobbling with a cane, with an IED in her purse.  Grandpa from the country, armed with an old hunting rifle.  That hot little thing you just picked up on the corner for some fun time with the troops at best armed with a knife you didn't see, at worst, knowingly infected with something, for the c ...

Main issue here... the billionaires who elect the politicians would have to agree to being taxed like the rest of the plebs, and their shareholders to taking the massive hit to the stock prices once labour costs go up to non-slave labour costs.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!


Well yes. I understand the political reality of late stage capitalism and the rise of neo feudalism.

Changing the system doesn't require the assent of the billionaires in question; it requires the consent and subsequent vote of actual traitors, seditionists, Confederates and Nazis to amend our constitution (to deny slave prison labor at least)  and enact those laws .

Do you believe this is less probable then a successful land war with China?
 
2021-07-04 10:53:47 AM  

yohohogreengiant: GrogSmash: yohohogreengiant: leeksfromchichis: GrogSmash: Mouser: GrogSmash: Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est

As long as it doesn't require a world war to accomplish, I'm fine with that.

If it does, we are all farked.  Bent over without lube.  The Chinese Army is one of, if not the, largest in the world, and one of the best equipped.  Yes, their sea capabilities, outside of their direct zone of control, suck, but that doesn't matter if it degenerates into a land war.

Any land war, where you have a *billion* plus potential combatants popping out of a farking hole at any time is a war you lose, unless you use the nuclear option... in which case, so do they.

Hell, once any combat hits mainland, they might do that at any time they feel like they have nothing left to lose.

On the plus side, the resulting ash clouds might combat a significant amount of global warming.

Well, if the Chinese have enough military-age men "lying flat" as described a couple threads above, maybe their military isn't as powerful as you make it out to be.  You're right, though, this is a problem best solved inside China rather than dragging the rest of the world down with it.  One way or another, though, it's going to have to be solved.

/Sina delenda est

"Military-age men"?

Me thinks you are talking about a conventional war.  A land war in China would not be contentional.

When I say "combatant", I mean... little one granny, hobbling with a cane, with an IED in her purse.  Grandpa from the country, armed with an old hunting rifle.  That hot little thing you just picked up on the corner for some fun time with the troops at best armed with a knife you didn't see, at worst, knowingly infect ...


Yup.  Like I said, the "billionaires who elect the politicians".

Your vote doesn't mean squat.  I'm sure there are a few honest politicians... but I won't hold my breath until I meet one in person.  Most of them are controlled by the purse strings, which you already know.

You can elect anyone you want.  It doesn't mean they will vote the way you want, especially if it starts to put pressure on the guys who own their asses.
 
2021-07-04 11:02:47 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Mr. Shabooboo: "Workers Paradise" indeed....If you like being worked to death, it's paradise...

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 768x400]


Whataboutism on my Fark?  It's more likely than you think.
 
2021-07-04 11:04:40 AM  

GrogSmash: land war


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2021-07-04 11:17:15 AM  
So how is that whole Workers Paradise thing going for you?
 
2021-07-04 11:18:02 AM  
In the early 2000s, I went on my first business trip to China, starting in Shenzhen. The vendor we were visiting there insisted that we stay at their preferred hotel, which was the Mission Hills golf resort with 12, 18-hole golf courses and luxury accommodations. Score!

So, we get to the resort late in the evening. I get to my room and it's nice. I get settled in, by putting away my clothes and getting ready for bed after a long day of travel.

I lay down and there was a master lighting control system built into the nightstand. I hit the all-off switch and the room went completely dark, except for an annoying neon purple glow shining brightly from behind the TV.

I get up and walk over to the investigate the source of the light and, behind the big screen TV is what looks like a bug zapper. Upon closer inspection, yep, it's a bug zapper. Weird.

Since my room's balcony overlooked one of the golf courses, I figured someone must have been using this outside earlier and brought it in and forgot to shut it off, so I just unplugged it and got back into bed and went to sleep.

About an hour later, I wake up, and I am totally engulfed in mosquitos. They must have been hiding in the curtains that I pulled closed and, with no purple Death Star to worry about, went to work on me. I plugged the zapper back in, got back into bed again, and pulled the covers up over my head, and returned to a night of fitful rest.

The next morning, I get up and I'm relieved that the mosquitos are no where to be found. However, while I was getting dressed, I had the TV on - mainly for the background noise, because I don't speak Mandarin - when, all of a sudden, a commercial/PSA comes on. It's a cartoon showing a horse in a field and then a mosquito flying to the horse and then the mosquito biting the horse and then the mosquito flying to a human and then biting the human and then the HUMAN BEING PUT INTO AN AMBULANCE.

Goddamn it. What the fark was that - West Nile, malaria, Shenzhen fever, scabies, what?!

I check carefully and it appears that I somehow came out unscathed overnight. No noticeable mosquito bites. Phew!

I head down to breakfast, while thinking to myself, wtf is with this place? It's a beautiful, spare no expense place, and I need a friggin' bug zapper in my room?

I get to the dining room and I take one look at my boss and she looks like she has the chicken pox, with red bumps all over her face and arms. She is really, really, really pissed.

"You had mosquitos, too?!" I say.

"Worse. Bed bugs. We are getting the fark out of here," she huffs.

So, we go to check out and the manager - a British guy - comes to ask us what's wrong. So, we tell him. He apologizes profusely and goes on to explain that the resort was still relatively new and had been built to lure well heeled execs from Taiwan, Korea and Japan who were there to visit their interests in Shenzhen, but they had struggled to get members because the pollution was so bad, that people couldn't golf a round without thinking they'd given up a year of their life. Without this revenue stream, they were struggling to keep up with running the property.

Anyway, it's still there and it's got good reviews, so they must have figured it out, but that was quite a "Welcome to China" moment.
 
2021-07-04 11:33:14 AM  

The Pope of Manwich Village: In the early 2000s, I went on my first business trip to China, starting in Shenzhen. The vendor we were visiting there insisted that we stay at their preferred hotel, which was the Mission Hills golf resort with 12, 18-hole golf courses and luxury accommodations. Score!

So, we get to the resort late in the evening. I get to my room and it's nice. I get settled in, by putting away my clothes and getting ready for bed after a long day of travel.

I lay down and there was a master lighting control system built into the nightstand. I hit the all-off switch and the room went completely dark, except for an annoying neon purple glow shining brightly from behind the TV.

I get up and walk over to the investigate the source of the light and, behind the big screen TV is what looks like a bug zapper. Upon closer inspection, yep, it's a bug zapper. Weird. ...


Interestingly, bug zappers are not effective on mosquitoes, they are not attracted to the light.  https://www.nytimes.com/wirec​utter/blo​g/do-bug-zappers-work/
 
2021-07-04 11:38:04 AM  

KarmicDisaster: The Pope of Manwich Village: In the early 2000s, I went on my first business trip to China, starting in Shenzhen. The vendor we were visiting there insisted that we stay at their preferred hotel, which was the Mission Hills golf resort with 12, 18-hole golf courses and luxury accommodations. Score!

So, we get to the resort late in the evening. I get to my room and it's nice. I get settled in, by putting away my clothes and getting ready for bed after a long day of travel.

I lay down and there was a master lighting control system built into the nightstand. I hit the all-off switch and the room went completely dark, except for an annoying neon purple glow shining brightly from behind the TV.

I get up and walk over to the investigate the source of the light and, behind the big screen TV is what looks like a bug zapper. Upon closer inspection, yep, it's a bug zapper. Weird. ...

Interestingly, bug zappers are not effective on mosquitoes, they are not attracted to the light.  https://www.nytimes.com/wirecu​tter/blog/do-bug-zappers-work/


Maybe it was for the horses then.
 
2021-07-04 11:44:30 AM  

Mouser: Tyrone Slothrop: There's a word for the marriage of capitalism and government, it's called "fascism".

\ethno-nationalism helps too

I'm fine with calling China the Nazi Germany of the 21st Century; the problem with that is, eventually it's going to have to meet the fate of the Nazi Germany of the 20th Century.

/Sina delenda est


They invade Russia and are decimated by the weather?

/Maybe this time we let Russia fend for themselves
 
2021-07-04 12:13:14 PM  
Makes good sense to post this article on July 4. There are probably a few farkers here who don't understand authoritarianism, and still vote for candidates that are anti- union, not realizing the truth. China isn't really a communist state, and the "free market" is only free when regulated and taxed. Freedom is not free, militarily or economically. Slaves have no rights, and the rights to vote, have access to health care and to assembly are being destroyed by lobbyist Fellating politicians of both parties. Here in Canada we have the remains of a fair system, but the rich are still undertaxed and have too much influence in policy.
Happy Fourth America, spread the word, the Amazon and Walmart models are the CCP model.
 
2021-07-04 12:25:42 PM  
They don't get the 4th of July off?
 
2021-07-04 12:46:59 PM  

stuffy: So how is that whole Workers Paradise thing going for you?


The Republican party would love to have the labor laws of China. Except for the part where you have to pay taxes (and favor non-outsourced solutions) in order to legally exploit your employees.

Do you make money, pay taxes, buy China (unless you're exploiting a third-world company to make more money), agree with everything the government says and not make China look bad? Congrats, you can do anything as a Chinese employer.
 
2021-07-04 1:26:02 PM  

GrogSmash: Yup.  Like I said, the "billionaires who elect the politicians".

Your vote doesn't mean squat.  I'm sure there are a few honest politicians... but I won't hold my breath until I meet one in person.  Most of them are controlled by the purse strings, which you already know.

You can elect anyone you want.  It doesn't mean they will vote the way you want, especially if it starts to put pressure on the guys who own their asses.


Your vote does count. The problem is that 95%+ of the population don't farking care. And I'm not taking sides here. Most voters spend more time caring about the trivia around their favourite sport team/Kardashians/whatever than government. If they take any interest, they watch news entertainment where partisan hacks give you a bunch of blue vs red team bullshiat. You get narratives about the two sides of the argument presented by former beauty queens, not serious analysis.

Like remember Terri Schiavo? Do you think the Republicans actually wanted her to remain on life support? Do you think they care? Do you think that politicians stuffed with lawyers didn't know that the law they were passing was unconstitutional? They passed the law (which was then overturned) just to get bozo votes. How much of the media, of either side, pointed out this was a dog whistle game?

How many bills are created under some title of green or anti-terrorism that are then stuffed with earmarks? But the narrative isn't "wait a second, what the hell does this have to do with the environment"? It's "we must save the planet" vs "environmental restrictions will destroy our jerbs".

That's why you get the corrupt incompetents that you do. You vote for gameshow hosts or the person who is only there because of who her husband is. Maybe you voted for Hilary because the gameshow host said "grab 'em by the pussy". You didn't vote for someone who would scrap the F-35 or will legalise cannabis, even though those actually matter. The people in charge of the F-35 would like to thank you for that and the billions they collect.
 
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