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(Metro)   Keto-crazy mum sends child to school with keto school lunch, shares TikTok of her creation, breaks the internet. "Our entire family eats this way, my five-year-old, our puppies and my husband"   (metro.co.uk) divider line
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2021-06-28 10:07:33 PM  
She's just a blithering idiot, isn't she?
 
2021-06-28 10:18:38 PM  
Someone give this kid a cookie.
 
2021-06-28 10:48:41 PM  
Yup, ranks her husband behind her puppies.
 
2021-06-29 3:16:59 AM  
That lunch looks pretty reasonable to me.  If it weren't presented as Keto porn, I wouldn't think twice about it.
 
2021-06-29 6:09:26 AM  
Better than those Lunchables
 
2021-06-29 6:25:08 AM  
Aiming for kidney stones at the age of 8.  Nice.
 
2021-06-29 6:39:49 AM  
On one hand, it doesn't look like a terribly bad lunch for a kid in and of itself. Long term however, keto diets preformed on otherwise healthy children can cause medical issues in the kidneys and pancreas, specifically.

I remember reading about a case where a mother made her 2-year old join in on the keto dieting, in a similar eat what the family eats situation, until his kidneys were going into metabolic acidosis. B-B-But it's all "eating healthy", right? It can only do good things! Except that she didn't seem to comprehend that a healthy 2-year old doesn't need to be on a fat burning diet.
 
2021-06-29 7:18:03 AM  

Your Neighborhood Pessimist: On one hand, it doesn't look like a terribly bad lunch for a kid in and of itself. Long term however, keto diets preformed on otherwise healthy children can cause medical issues in the kidneys and pancreas, specifically.

I remember reading about a case where a mother made her 2-year old join in on the keto dieting, in a similar eat what the family eats situation, until his kidneys were going into metabolic acidosis. B-B-But it's all "eating healthy", right? It can only do good things! Except that she didn't seem to comprehend that a healthy 2-year old doesn't need to be on a fat burning diet.


I've had to tell a few people with toddlers that skim milk and 2% weren't going to do what they wanted*, and it's whole milk that helps the growing brain at that age.

* turning their toddler from pleasingly plump into an Olympic athlete
 
2021-06-29 7:36:24 AM  
There's a fine line between advocacy and evangelism, and she passed it quite some time ago.
 
2021-06-29 7:52:58 AM  
There were times hundreds of years ago where whole families went on keto binges.

It was called "almost starving in winter"
 
2021-06-29 7:55:11 AM  
Keto people be like "you have GOT to try this recipe, you'll love it!" and it's just an egg.
 
2021-06-29 8:04:58 AM  
When people decide experts are all wrong they often end up doing things that don't make much sense to those outside of their weird cults.
 
2021-06-29 8:09:40 AM  
I've been on keto for ages, and it's tricky metabolic business not to carb cycle on occasion.  Especially as a child who is (didn't RTFA) presumably not epileptic.  Metabolic flexibility while on keto 80-90% of the time is ideal, but teaching a child's body to be unable to process carbohydrates, unless this person is a pediatrician, seems like a really bad idea to me.
 
2021-06-29 8:14:46 AM  

MoriartyLives: I've been on keto for ages, and it's tricky metabolic business not to carb cycle on occasion.  Especially as a child who is (didn't RTFA) presumably not epileptic.  Metabolic flexibility while on keto 80-90% of the time is ideal, but teaching a child's body to be unable to process carbohydrates, unless this person is a pediatrician, seems like a really bad idea to me.


One would think that if the child is already a pediatrician, they'd be qualified to make those dietary choices on their own.
 
2021-06-29 8:17:36 AM  
Bread + wine = civilization
 
2021-06-29 8:29:56 AM  

foo monkey: That lunch looks pretty reasonable to me.  If it weren't presented as Keto porn, I wouldn't think twice about it.


Same here
 
2021-06-29 8:30:59 AM  

Your Neighborhood Pessimist: On one hand, it doesn't look like a terribly bad lunch for a kid in and of itself. Long term however, keto diets preformed on otherwise healthy children can cause medical issues in the kidneys and pancreas, specifically.

I remember reading about a case where a mother made her 2-year old join in on the keto dieting, in a similar eat what the family eats situation, until his kidneys were going into metabolic acidosis. B-B-But it's all "eating healthy", right? It can only do good things! Except that she didn't seem to comprehend that a healthy 2-year old doesn't need to be on a fat burning diet.


I didn't know that, mahalo for the info.
 
2021-06-29 8:45:46 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Bread + wine = civilization


+ cheese
 
2021-06-29 8:55:27 AM  

Cafe Threads: Your Neighborhood Pessimist: On one hand, it doesn't look like a terribly bad lunch for a kid in and of itself. Long term however, keto diets preformed on otherwise healthy children can cause medical issues in the kidneys and pancreas, specifically.

I remember reading about a case where a mother made her 2-year old join in on the keto dieting, in a similar eat what the family eats situation, until his kidneys were going into metabolic acidosis. B-B-But it's all "eating healthy", right? It can only do good things! Except that she didn't seem to comprehend that a healthy 2-year old doesn't need to be on a fat burning diet.

I've had to tell a few people with toddlers that skim milk and 2% weren't going to do what they wanted*, and it's whole milk that helps the growing brain at that age.

* turning their toddler from pleasingly plump into an Olympic athlete


I had a customer get upset at me because I told her milk was a perfectly suitable and healthy beverage for her child (about 1 year old). She bought aloe juice for the kid and thought I would tell her to get "something healthy" and not milk.
 
2021-06-29 8:55:31 AM  
Kids need carbs.
 
2021-06-29 9:00:46 AM  
I mean, it depends on how strict they're being.  If the kid is still allowed to participate in kid stuff and eat cake at birthday parties, have whatever at friends' houses and get pizza with their [insert team/club here] sure.  This actually seems like a reasonable balancing act with the ridiculous decadence we tend to have in the US.

I once saw someone posting about being the parent who wouldn't allow their kids sugar at school.  It was because they found out their kids were getting candy almost daily and the class had fallen into a trend of bringing cupcakes for every birthday.  There's 30 kids, that's a lot of freaking cake.  Then the school lunch has a desert and they can get chocolate milk if they have some change.  It all just added up.  They didn't ban sugar all together, it was just that with all this nickle and dime stuff they felt bad giving their kid MORE sugar when they got home so they felt like it was robbing them of experiences like taking their kid to get ice cream or baking cookies with them on the weekend.

This is just taking the opposite approach to the same problem.  You want cake on your birthday and Tommy's birthday in class the next day?   Fine, eat your salad.
 
2021-06-29 9:28:33 AM  
That's a perfectly healthy lunch that only a bunch of fatasses who eat garbage and twice the calories they need would be shocked by.

The only reason people are flipping out is mom called it a "keto lunch" instead of a "lunch". I get it. Evangelists of any stripe are annoying. But that meal is plenty of calories and good healthy food.

Seriously, what would you change in that meal for an 11 year old? Keep in mind the caloric range for that age is 1400-2200 calories depending on her activity level.
 
2021-06-29 10:21:48 AM  
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2021-06-29 10:24:42 AM  
Reminds me of the calorie-restriction fad, followed by, "Why aren't my children growing?"
 
2021-06-29 10:31:27 AM  

Cafe Threads: Your Neighborhood Pessimist: On one hand, it doesn't look like a terribly bad lunch for a kid in and of itself. Long term however, keto diets preformed on otherwise healthy children can cause medical issues in the kidneys and pancreas, specifically.

I remember reading about a case where a mother made her 2-year old join in on the keto dieting, in a similar eat what the family eats situation, until his kidneys were going into metabolic acidosis. B-B-But it's all "eating healthy", right? It can only do good things! Except that she didn't seem to comprehend that a healthy 2-year old doesn't need to be on a fat burning diet.

I've had to tell a few people with toddlers that skim milk and 2% weren't going to do what they wanted*, and it's whole milk that helps the growing brain at that age.

* turning their toddler from pleasingly plump into an Olympic athlete


Hell, my kiddos are 4 and 7 and they still get whole milk.
 
2021-06-29 11:00:43 AM  

fiddlehead: Hell, my kiddos are 4 and 7 and they still get whole milk.


getting a real kick, 'cos I am literally 47 (no, really!) and I still drink whole milk (no, really!)
 
2021-06-29 11:35:27 AM  

tintar: fiddlehead: Hell, my kiddos are 4 and 7 and they still get whole milk.

getting a real kick, 'cos I am literally 47 (no, really!) and I still drink whole milk (no, really!)


Anything less than whole milk you may as well be drinking water.
 
2021-06-29 11:38:31 AM  

Boudyro: tintar: fiddlehead: Hell, my kiddos are 4 and 7 and they still get whole milk.

getting a real kick, 'cos I am literally 47 (no, really!) and I still drink whole milk (no, really!)

Anything less than whole milk you may as well be drinking water.


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2021-06-29 11:53:21 AM  
I suspect "Keto" is bullshiat, but there's nothing wrong with that lunch.

As long as he actually gets some carbs (reasonably healthy ones) at some point, not sure why this is a problem.
 
2021-06-29 12:01:52 PM  
That lunch doesn't look terrible, actually it's probably healthier than most lunches I remember kids eating when I was in school. And hey, at least it's not a packet of sugar and peanut butter smeared on a playing card.
 
2021-06-29 12:13:08 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Bread + wine = civilization


Or heavy beer.  Good nutrients in that.
 
2021-06-29 12:25:10 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Better than those Lunchables


Dude lunchables got me through the 90s
 
2021-06-29 12:47:50 PM  
guarantee that is the healthiest lunch at that school.  keto is an excellent diet plan with lots of evidence for it from a human evolutionary perspective, but for a child probably would be better to roll with more of a primal type diet instead with some flexibility  so they can be a kid and eat pizza and cake occasionally.  just please never ever stick your kid on a vegan diet - that's child abuse.
 
2021-06-29 1:08:33 PM  

zeroflight222: Tyrone Slothrop: Bread + wine = civilization

Or heavy beer.  Good nutrients in that.


And won't give you cholera.
 
2021-06-29 1:25:06 PM  
I hate the school lunch police. we sent our son to a fancy, private pre-school. Three and four year olds. They took me aside one day and said "We don't cut the crusts off of our sandwiches." fark you, biatch.
 
2021-06-29 1:28:00 PM  
Keto is a super-effective weight loss tool, but some of the adherents are like cult members about it.

It great if you want lose weight fast, but it's not a great long term solution for healthy eating.   You need to transition to a normal, healthy diet afterwards.  And no bacon isn't a "health food", Karen.

/those people on /r/keto are like religious zealots
 
2021-06-29 1:34:38 PM  

blondambition: I hate the school lunch police. we sent our son to a fancy, private pre-school. Three and four year olds. They took me aside one day and said "We don't cut the crusts off of our sandwiches." fark you, biatch.


And that is why your kid is hooked on meth and works for Amazon.
 
2021-06-29 1:43:58 PM  
It seems to be a daily routine in my neighborhood that mothers bring their kids into a 7-Eleven before school starts to get a healthy breakfast of chips, Big Gulps and candy.  We can do worse than the keto mom.
 
2021-06-29 1:52:21 PM  
I haven't met a keto dieter yet who didn't smell funny.
 
2021-06-29 1:55:31 PM  
My sister was in charge of the hæmatology lab at a large uni hospital.  She was often involved in tracking the progress of pædeatric patients.  One of the patients was from some strange cult with very strict dietary rules, some draconian version of vegan, IIRC.  The kid's blood work and other signs indicated severe malnutrition.
She was one of the members of the medical staff who took turns sneaking cheeseburgers in to the child.

Before you think about getting my sister charged with something, the joke's on you.  She's dead.
 
2021-06-29 1:56:29 PM  

Huggermugger: Kids need carbs.


Kids need calories, and lots of them, carbs are just the most efficient way to deliver.

That meal sounds healthy, though, so long as there's enough of it. How wrong can chicken, berries, and an egg be? Maybe not every day, but it's not an unreasonable lunch.

CSB: the dog had cancer, got it removed. While she was on the mend, we shifted her to a mostly carb-free diet on anecdotal advice from a friend. It was really difficult getting her all the calories the internet said she needed without slamming her arteries shut. Boiled chicken and green beans can only go so far without eggs and cheese. She's back on dog food now, happy and healthy, though the vet did say it was one of the best recoveries they'd seen.
 
2021-06-29 2:10:02 PM  
Looks like a fine, healthy lunch.

Also, I thought a lettuce wrap was the lettuce as the wrapping material. That's just a tortilla wrap with lettuce inside.
 
2021-06-29 2:16:40 PM  

Huggermugger: Kids need carbs.


Carbs For Kids!
 
2021-06-29 2:16:50 PM  

palelizard: Huggermugger: Kids need carbs.

Kids need calories, and lots of them, carbs are just the most efficient way to deliver.

That meal sounds healthy, though, so long as there's enough of it. How wrong can chicken, berries, and an egg be? Maybe not every day, but it's not an unreasonable lunch.



That's the upshot; what they're getting is healthy, it's just not balanced for kids' needs if followed on an every meal basis.

CSB myself: A niece (4ish at the time) was constantly underweight to a point the doctor said it doesn't matter what food you give her, even junk food, just pack in the calories.  Plus vitamins.  That helped hit home to a few parent friends just how important calories are to kids & they were more careful about not making their kids follow their own diets just because it was easier to cook one meal.
 
2021-06-29 2:40:17 PM  

foo monkey: zeroflight222: Tyrone Slothrop: Bread + wine = civilization

Or heavy beer.  Good nutrients in that.

And won't give you cholera.


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2021-06-29 2:43:32 PM  
Man, I look at some of these kids lunches online:

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And I think "That's a craft project, not a lunch. No effing way I'm going to make one of those."
 
2021-06-29 3:00:43 PM  

fiddlehead: Man, I look at some of these kids lunches online:

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And I think "That's a craft project, not a lunch. No effing way I'm going to make one of those."


It could be worse.

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2021-06-29 3:13:46 PM  

olrasputin: MoriartyLives: I've been on keto for ages, and it's tricky metabolic business not to carb cycle on occasion.  Especially as a child who is (didn't RTFA) presumably not epileptic.  Metabolic flexibility while on keto 80-90% of the time is ideal, but teaching a child's body to be unable to process carbohydrates, unless this person is a pediatrician, seems like a really bad idea to me.

One would think that if the child is already a pediatrician, they'd be qualified to make

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dietary choices on their own.


Doogie can make those choices.
 
2021-06-29 3:16:43 PM  
What a "proper" school lunch should look like:

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/sarcasm
 
2021-06-29 3:23:22 PM  

Evil Mackerel: fiddlehead: Man, I look at some of these kids lunches online:

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And I think "That's a craft project, not a lunch. No effing way I'm going to make one of those."

It could be worse.

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Looks like Steve1989 MRE lunch. Love his voice.
 
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