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2021-06-25 6:33:13 AM  
Even if they'd walk naked; still not asking for it.
 
2021-06-25 6:35:27 AM  

behanger: Even if they'd walk naked; still not asking for it.


I see you've met my wife.
 
2021-06-25 6:41:00 AM  
This explains how they treat the livestock too.  Scantily dressed temptresses...

Baaaaahh!
 
2021-06-25 6:42:44 AM  

Lifeless: behanger: Even if they'd walk naked; still not asking for it.

I see you've met my wife.


"Dress my wife... Please!"
Henny Youngman
 
2021-06-25 6:45:45 AM  
Seems like we've identified the problem anyway.
 
2021-06-25 6:49:49 AM  
What, was she showing ankle? Grrr.
 
2021-06-25 6:50:21 AM  
Isn't this exactly typical of these ultra-conservative types?

"Men can't control themselves.  It's the fault of the women for being too attractive.  So it is incumbent on them to cover themselves."

In no way do the men take any responsibility.

Of course, the whole reason that men have got this problem in those places is that they force the women to cover themselves.  They go their entire lives not seeing anything of the female body at all.  And that denial makes it all worse.  And for whatever reason, they don't see that that is the real problem.
 
2021-06-25 6:50:57 AM  
"They are wearing very few clothes"

Translation: Pakistani men are incapable of self control. I don't want to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but perhaps the problem isn't women, but rather local customs and cultural norms.
 
2021-06-25 6:53:39 AM  
First thought: Pakistani when don't wear clothes?  I need to take a trip there.

Second thought: Don't say that thought in public.

Third thought: Conservatives everywhere have the same terrible reaction to rape, and it's so farking weird that they go to it every time.
 
2021-06-25 6:58:26 AM  

Tyrosine: "They are wearing very few clothes"

Translation: Pakistani men are incapable of self control. I don't want to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but perhaps the problem isn't women, but rather local customs and cultural norms.


Sounds like some Pakistani men are in need of castration if their horniness is so uncontrollable as to drive them to violent acts.

Can't think of a better deterrent.
 
2021-06-25 7:01:01 AM  

I May Be Crazy But...: First thought: Pakistani when don't wear clothes?  I need to take a trip there.

Second thought: Don't say that thought in public.

Third thought: Conservatives everywhere have the same terrible reaction to rape, and it's so farking weird that they go to it every time.


Noah was drunk and naked, and I can totally understand that, but his son found him so and he cursed the boy, the boy's wife, and their bloodline in perpetuity.

Conservatives are weird about nudity and view women like sheep that are less attractive than actual sheep.
 
2021-06-25 7:03:22 AM  

Tyrosine: "They are wearing very few clothes"

Translation: Pakistani men are incapable of self control. I don't want to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but perhaps the problem isn't women, but rather local customs and cultural norms.


Don't forget religion.
 
2021-06-25 7:04:20 AM  

Tyrosine: "They are wearing very few clothes"

Translation: Pakistani men are incapable of self control. I don't want to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but perhaps the problem isn't women, but rather local customs and cultural norms.


No.  It's just men.  And I am one.
 
2021-06-25 7:05:40 AM  
"I have raped all the women I want.  And that number is zero." Penn of Penn & Teller.  I am sure I screwed the quote up, but that's the gist of it.

Men who blame women for their lack of self control are morons bordering on human monsters.  Do men look at beautiful women? (or any beautiful person, let's be honest here).  Yes.

But that's where you have to stop.  Don't ogle.  Just look, give a polite compliment if you're able (I have difficulty due to my anxiety disorder), and move on.  Don't touch.  Don't bother them further.  Seriously, not everywhere is a place to get a date or, in these sick people's minds, someone to use and throw away.

Some of these cultures blame the woman, including men in the United States.  They kill them if they are attacked in such a manner.   Yes, "honor killings" happen in Pakistan.  There's nothing honorable about them.  Brainwashed people are scared of having a traumatized family member.   This is why so many have what we would deem child brides in the tribal  areas(under 18, many under 16).  It happens elsewhere, too.

Can we stop pretending that every goddamn culture is the same as the United States?  There are basic morals being broken here. Ones that every person of every culture can agree to abide.

Do not rape, do not steal, do not murder.

The PM of Pakistan is giving tacit approval for rape.  Fark him.

/weird rant, sorry about that.
//yes, I am a man.
///slashies!
 
2021-06-25 7:06:18 AM  
I wonder how things are going for Women in India....
 
2021-06-25 7:06:45 AM  

I May Be Crazy But...: Conservatives everywhere have the same terrible reaction to rape, and it's so farking weird that they go to it every time.


Yup. From the Taliban to this guy to whatever flavor of Jesus-wheezing dumbass the Huckabee family calls themselves, it all boils down to "Woman tempt man. Woman bad."
 
2021-06-25 7:07:53 AM  

GrymRpr: I wonder how things are going for Women in India....


Still terribly.  The judges aren't doing anything with the one or two new laws passed.
 
2021-06-25 7:09:10 AM  

some_beer_drinker: Tyrosine: "They are wearing very few clothes"

Translation: Pakistani men are incapable of self control. I don't want to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but perhaps the problem isn't women, but rather local customs and cultural norms.

Don't forget religion.


Religion is a subset of culture and all three Abrahamic religions seem to share one relevant common trait: Externalization of blame.
 
2021-06-25 7:10:20 AM  
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2021-06-25 7:11:08 AM  
They rape-rape little boys too... "young dancing boys"     are part of their culture.  I suppose little boys wear too few clothes as well.

Hmmm.... is everyone else suddenly running around wearing nothing but g-strings?  Or do the guys there got s serious farking problem?
 
2021-06-25 7:19:58 AM  

Darkmeer: "I have raped all the women I want.  And that number is zero." Penn of Penn & Teller.  I am sure I screwed the quote up, but that's the gist of it.

Men who blame women for their lack of self control are morons bordering on human monsters.  Do men look at beautiful women? (or any beautiful person, let's be honest here).  Yes.

But that's where you have to stop.  Don't ogle.  Just look, give a polite compliment if you're able (I have difficulty due to my anxiety disorder), and move on.  Don't touch.  Don't bother them further.  Seriously, not everywhere is a place to get a date or, in these sick people's minds, someone to use and throw away.

Some of these cultures blame the woman, including men in the United States.  They kill them if they are attacked in such a manner.   Yes, "honor killings" happen in Pakistan.  There's nothing honorable about them.  Brainwashed people are scared of having a traumatized family member.   This is why so many have what we would deem child brides in the tribal  areas(under 18, many under 16).  It happens elsewhere, too.

Can we stop pretending that every goddamn culture is the same as the United States?  There are basic morals being broken here. Ones that every person of every culture can agree to abide.

Do not rape, do not steal, do not murder.

The PM of Pakistan is giving tacit approval for rape.  Fark him.

/weird rant, sorry about that.
//yes, I am a man.
///slashies!


He sounds Trumpy to me.
 
2021-06-25 7:21:04 AM  

Tyrosine: "They are wearing very few clothes"

Translation: Pakistani men are incapable of self control. I don't want to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but perhaps the problem isn't women, but rather local customs and cultural norms.


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2021-06-25 7:22:02 AM  
So kick this guy in the dick and then say it's his fault because he says stupid shiat.
 
2021-06-25 7:22:26 AM  

Tyrosine: some_beer_drinker: Tyrosine: "They are wearing very few clothes"

Translation: Pakistani men are incapable of self control. I don't want to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but perhaps the problem isn't women, but rather local customs and cultural norms.

Don't forget religion.

Religion is a subset of culture and all three Abrahamic religions seem to share one relevant common trait: Externalization of blame.


Every good scapegoater knows you've got to kill one "for Azazel".
 
2021-06-25 7:22:42 AM  

Darkmeer: Just look, give a polite compliment if you're able


Just no.  Don't be gross.
 
2021-06-25 7:29:33 AM  
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2021-06-25 7:29:59 AM  

Lifeless: behanger: Even if they'd walk naked; still not asking for it.

I see you've met my wife.


Everyone has "met" your wife.
 
2021-06-25 7:37:26 AM  
Makes total sense.  Sure, I'll admit I'm a pervert, spent plenty of time around scantly clad women, still made it my whole life without raping anyone, but yeah let's blame them anyway.
 
2021-06-25 7:37:27 AM  
I've been assured Islam isn't a regressive religion that treats women like objects to be controlled, despite that seeming to be the case in any country where Islam is the official government religion.
 
2021-06-25 7:43:02 AM  

God_Almighty_Himself: Darkmeer: Just look, give a polite compliment if you're able

Just no.  Don't be gross.


Yeah, we know women hate being complimented on their looks. Next time you see an attractive woman, tell he that dress makes her look fat.
 
2021-06-25 7:43:16 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: I've been assured Islam isn't a regressive religion that treats women like objects to be controlled, despite that seeming to be the case in any country where Islam is the official government religion.


The important thing here is that you get to disparage Muslims.
 
2021-06-25 7:50:28 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: I've been assured Islam isn't a regressive religion that treats women like objects to be controlled, despite that seeming to be the case in any country where Islam is the official government religion.


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Look at all that Islam. Wow.
/raise your hand if you think or know Pakistan has a worse situation than your country, I'm genuinely curious, or even India, with all the rape stories
//I'm very fine with documented rape to be a capital crime, FTR, not only is the aggressor destroying the life of the victim, but also future relationships as well.
 
2021-06-25 7:50:48 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: I May Be Crazy But...: Conservatives everywhere have the same terrible reaction to rape, and it's so farking weird that they go to it every time.

Yup. From the Taliban to this guy to whatever flavor of Jesus-wheezing dumbass the Huckabee family calls themselves, it all boils down to "Woman tempt man. Woman bad."


Hey, don't paint all conservatives with the same broad brush. Some conservative women don't tempt anybody!

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2021-06-25 7:52:58 AM  

Tyrosine: some_beer_drinker: Tyrosine: "They are wearing very few clothes"

Translation: Pakistani men are incapable of self control. I don't want to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but perhaps the problem isn't women, but rather local customs and cultural norms.

Don't forget religion.

Religion is a subset of culture and all three Abrahamic religions seem to share one relevant common trait: Externalization of blame.


I don't have THAT much in deity knowledge of the former two, but I don't recall any "externalization of blame" in Islam; you do something right you get rewarded for it, you do something wrong, you get punished for it.

/open to discussion
 
2021-06-25 7:53:30 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: God_Almighty_Himself: Darkmeer: Just look, give a polite compliment if you're able

Just no.  Don't be gross.

Yeah, we know women hate being complimented on their looks. Next time you see an attractive woman, tell he that dress makes her look fat.


Maybe stop worrying about what random women look like.
 
2021-06-25 7:55:19 AM  

God_Almighty_Himself: Tyrone Slothrop: I've been assured Islam isn't a regressive religion that treats women like objects to be controlled, despite that seeming to be the case in any country where Islam is the official government religion.

The important thing here is that you get to disparage Muslims.


Why break a good track record?
 
2021-06-25 7:57:31 AM  
If the news would just stop reporting all these stories, the problem would just go away.
 
2021-06-25 7:59:22 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: God_Almighty_Himself: Darkmeer: Just look, give a polite compliment if you're able

Just no.  Don't be gross.

Yeah, we know women hate being complimented on their looks. Next time you see an attractive woman, tell he that dress makes her look fat.


It's never occurred to you that women don't give a flying fark how you think they look, has it?
 
2021-06-25 7:59:27 AM  

1funguy: But that's where you have to stop.  Don't ogle.  Just look, give a polite compliment if you're able (I have difficulty due to my anxiety disorder), and move on.  Don't touch.  Don't bother them further.  Seriously, not everywhere is a place to get a date or, in these sick people's minds, someone to use and throw away.


this is correct - if you are ugly.

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2021-06-25 8:01:48 AM  
Hmmm, by those metrics he is a great big ol whore

Shame if he inflamed someone
 
2021-06-25 8:02:24 AM  

Resident Muslim: I don't have THAT much in deity knowledge of the former two,


the whole Adam & Eve/ Garden of Eden thing is the epitome of externalized blame.
 
2021-06-25 8:05:14 AM  
Blaming the victims. This guy would be a Republican if he were American.
 
2021-06-25 8:05:20 AM  

Resident Muslim: Tyrone Slothrop: I've been assured Islam isn't a regressive religion that treats women like objects to be controlled, despite that seeming to be the case in any country where Islam is the official government religion.

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Look at all that Islam. Wow.
/raise your hand if you think or know Pakistan has a worse situation than your country, I'm genuinely curious, or even India, with all the rape stories
//I'm very fine with documented rape to be a capital crime, FTR, not only is the aggressor destroying the life of the victim, but also future relationships as well.


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2021-06-25 8:05:23 AM  

mekkab: Resident Muslim: I don't have THAT much in deity knowledge of the former two,

the whole Adam & Eve/ Garden of Eden thing is the epitome of externalized blame.


1) are you talking about blaming Eve? There is no such thing in Islam
2) are you talking about blaming the devil? Both Adam and Eve were kicked out of their paradise for listening to the devil.

Please clarify if I'm missing some other point.
 
2021-06-25 8:08:18 AM  

Resident Muslim: mekkab: Resident Muslim: I don't have THAT much in deity knowledge of the former two,

the whole Adam & Eve/ Garden of Eden thing is the epitome of externalized blame.

1) are you talking about blaming Eve? There is no such thing in Islam
2) are you talking about blaming the devil? Both Adam and Eve were kicked out of their paradise for listening to the devil.

Please clarify if I'm missing some other point.


No, eve listened to the serpent, is never ID'd as the big red guy,

Then eve tricked Adam
 
2021-06-25 8:10:31 AM  

Laobaojun: Resident Muslim: Tyrone Slothrop: I've been assured Islam isn't a regressive religion that treats women like objects to be controlled, despite that seeming to be the case in any country where Islam is the official government religion.

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Look at all that Islam. Wow.
/raise your hand if you think or know Pakistan has a worse situation than your country, I'm genuinely curious, or even India, with all the rape stories
//I'm very fine with documented rape to be a capital crime, FTR, not only is the aggressor destroying the life of the victim, but also future relationships as well.

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Yeah. I get that response a lot by people who make fun or belittle other cultures when they have similar or worse things in their culture.
See calling India a rape culture, or Japan weird (making fun of pillow hugging guys while MLP pony hugging guys exist, no offense to our resident MLP fellas, I'm just talking about making fun of it).
People who waste their energy by pointing flaws in other people don't focus on themselves. It's even worse when they have the same exact flaws.

I WOULD have accepted a whataboutism if I had said "B-b-but trump said grab them by the _____".
But that's not what I'm talking about here.
 
2021-06-25 8:11:50 AM  

baka-san: Resident Muslim: mekkab: Resident Muslim: I don't have THAT much in deity knowledge of the former two,

the whole Adam & Eve/ Garden of Eden thing is the epitome of externalized blame.

1) are you talking about blaming Eve? There is no such thing in Islam
2) are you talking about blaming the devil? Both Adam and Eve were kicked out of their paradise for listening to the devil.

Please clarify if I'm missing some other point.

No, eve listened to the serpent, is never ID'd as the big red guy,

Then eve tricked Adam


Like I said, the Quran has no such version.
Was reading that part in the past 24 hours even.
 
2021-06-25 8:11:57 AM  
Imran Khan was a great cricketer, but in all other respects he's a shiat human being.
 
2021-06-25 8:12:56 AM  

hissatsu: Barricaded Gunman: I May Be Crazy But...: Conservatives everywhere have the same terrible reaction to rape, and it's so farking weird that they go to it every time.

Yup. From the Taliban to this guy to whatever flavor of Jesus-wheezing dumbass the Huckabee family calls themselves, it all boils down to "Woman tempt man. Woman bad."

Hey, don't paint all conservatives with the same broad brush. Some conservative women don't tempt anybody!

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Yeah.  Well, that is clearly in the Bible.  Towards the front.  So women must tempt men.  It's how God made them.  So lose a few pounds, flirt with my bros and wash the truck in a Confederate flag bikini.  God wills it.

But lose a few pounds first, don't desecrate the heritage flag with muffin tops
 
2021-06-25 8:17:04 AM  
Pakistani prime minister's statement, or Tucker Carlson's? Can't tell the difference anymore.
 
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