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(The Colorado Sun)   Colorado's State Health Department hit the operators of Colorado dump that was illegally storing more than 27 million tires which caught fire last year and burned for days with the max penalty the law would allow: an $8,700 fine and warning not to do it again   (coloradosun.com) divider line
    More: Asinine, Recycling, nation's biggest tire dump, Tire, subsequent state inspection, Tire recycling, Regulation, Tires, CH2E's Tire Mountain  
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2021-06-24 7:50:36 PM  
Springfield is in Colorado?
 
2021-06-24 11:56:37 PM  

Monty_Zoncolan: Springfield is in Colorado?


Done here.
 
2021-06-25 12:01:04 AM  
That'll show em'!*

*Act may or may "show em", but at least we're doing something***!
*** We're barely doing something.
 
2021-06-25 12:04:18 AM  
Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.  You can't take them to the dump.  I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them, anywhere in the state.

Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?

You can't build a fence or something either, because they're an eyesore.  You could paint them.
 
2021-06-25 12:04:51 AM  
It's still one of the better things to ever have happened in Weld County
 
2021-06-25 12:04:54 AM  
Lesson learned eh chaps? Let's all go grab a beer and warm up around a nice tire fire.
 
2021-06-25 12:06:45 AM  

cryinoutloud: Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.  You can't take them to the dump.  I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them, anywhere in the state.

Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?

You can't build a fence or something either, because they're an eyesore.  You could paint them.


Any tire shop should take them for a fee
 
2021-06-25 12:07:52 AM  
Sounds like it's a Goodyear to be a tire fire owner then.  Colorado seems to be Falken this one up.
 
2021-06-25 12:10:25 AM  
burned for days with the Max
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2021-06-25 12:14:08 AM  
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2021-06-25 12:16:53 AM  

cryinoutloud: Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?


Turn them into raised garden beds.  Just . . . don't eat anything you grow in them.
 
2021-06-25 12:17:04 AM  

cryinoutloud: Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.  You can't take them to the dump.  I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them, anywhere in the state.

Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?

You can't build a fence or something either, because they're an eyesore.  You could paint them.


Take them to any tire shop, and pay $2-5.
 
2021-06-25 12:17:43 AM  
We need to do something about those maximum penalties. They need to be more maximum.
 
2021-06-25 12:20:58 AM  

cryinoutloud: Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.  You can't take them to the dump.  I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them, anywhere in the state.

Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?

You can't build a fence or something either, because they're an eyesore.  You could paint them.


Sanitation department will tell you. I'm in a place where all new tires get a recycling fee tacked on, so one can bring any old ones back to the shops that sell them. My county can even dispatch a truck to pick up a batch as long as they're not big rig tires.
 
2021-06-25 12:21:01 AM  

cryinoutloud: Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.  You can't take them to the dump.  I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them, anywhere in the state.

Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?

You can't build a fence or something either, because they're an eyesore.  You could paint them.


Make one of these and sell it in Delaware. They love these stupid things.
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2021-06-25 12:21:22 AM  

emersonbiggins: Sounds like it's a Goodyear to be a tire fire owner then.  Colorado seems to be Falken this one up.


And even after they put it out, they're going to have to look out for firestones, in general -especially if they're around important places like michelin starred restaurants.
 
2021-06-25 12:25:07 AM  

Mokmo: cryinoutloud: Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.  You can't take them to the dump.  I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them, anywhere in the state.

Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?

You can't build a fence or something either, because they're an eyesore.  You could paint them.

Sanitation department will tell you. I'm in a place where all new tires get a recycling fee tacked on, so one can bring any old ones back to the shops that sell them. My county can even dispatch a truck to pick up a batch as long as they're not big rig tires.


SOCIALISM!
 
2021-06-25 12:34:47 AM  

cryinoutloud: I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of. I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them


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2021-06-25 12:48:11 AM  

emersonbiggins: Sounds like it's a Goodyear to be a tire fire owner then.  Colorado seems to be Falken this one up.


And here Kumho the lazy puns
 
2021-06-25 1:17:56 AM  

Gyrfalcon: We need to do something about those maximum penalties. They need to be more maximum.


Some years ago there was a company that had been dumping waste illegally in the ocean until they got caught. They were told to knock it off and do it right or be fined several thousand dollars a day.
It was still cheaper than doing it right, so not only did they keep dumping, they dumped even more since the fine was the same either way, so they figured they might as well get their money's worth.
 
2021-06-25 1:35:47 AM  

cryinoutloud: Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.  You can't take them to the dump.  I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them, anywhere in the state.

Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?

You can't build a fence or something either, because they're an eyesore.  You could paint them.


Got any Hatian political rivals you need to intimidate?
 
2021-06-25 1:37:16 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: emersonbiggins: Sounds like it's a Goodyear to be a tire fire owner then.  Colorado seems to be Falken this one up.

And even after they put it out, they're going to have to look out for firestones, in general -especially if they're around important places like michelin starred restaurants.


Hoosier daddy?
 
2021-06-25 1:46:27 AM  
They should have just made separate fines for each tire...
 
2021-06-25 1:49:44 AM  
The term you're looking for is "Business Friendly State."
 
2021-06-25 1:50:24 AM  
Snapp said regulators are limited by hazardous waste inspection rules. "We can only assess a penalty for the violations that occurred within that one day that we inspect the site, and it's a maximum of $10,000 per penalty per day," he said.

The ideal solution would be to send someone out every single day. $10k would easily cover the cost of a dedicated employee.
 
2021-06-25 1:52:52 AM  

cryinoutloud: Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?


Check with your county's Solid Waste department.
 
2021-06-25 2:58:37 AM  

MythDragon: Gyrfalcon: We need to do something about those maximum penalties. They need to be more maximum.

Some years ago there was a company that had been dumping waste illegally in the ocean until they got caught. They were told to knock it off and do it right or be fined several thousand dollars a day.
It was still cheaper than doing it right, so not only did they keep dumping, they dumped even more since the fine was the same either way, so they figured they might as well get their money's worth.


Well, it's the same reason BP keeps having massive safety violations. They keep getting hit with genuinely massive fines for things like the Deepwater Horizon spill (and the subsequent settlement) and the Texas City refinery debacle(s); but the biggest fines that can be levied don't even touch what BP makes in an average year in profits. And since they're a true multinational there's no way to hurt them with bad press, boycotts, embargoes, or anything.

People natter about Bezos or Musk and their gazillions of dollars; but in reality, BP and a few other multinationals have reached the point where they ARE nations unto themselves. There's no way to regulate someone who can pay out literally billions in fines and penalties and have it back by the end of business today.
 
2021-06-25 3:00:09 AM  
Well. I bet the back of their right hand sure stings right now.  Let this be a lesson to you. Next time it will be a half hour retention spent cleaning chalk board erasers. So watch yourselves.
 
2021-06-25 4:00:28 AM  
Snapp said regulators are limited by hazardous waste inspection rules. "We can only assess a penalty for the violations that occurred within that one day that we inspect the site, and it's a maximum of $10,000 per penalty per day," he said.

Crazy idea; send a couple of Narcotics cops out there with a list of the rules, every day for a month.
The company will go bankrupt.
 
2021-06-25 4:28:50 AM  

Monty_Zoncolan: Springfield is in Colorado?


In Baca County
 
2021-06-25 5:09:48 AM  
I asked Ms. Orangehat if she wanted to go to a mountain we'd never seen before this weekend... she decided she didn't want to go once I showed her the picture.
 
2021-06-25 5:32:31 AM  

The Smails Kid: Hoosier daddy?


I see what you did there, thats pretty slick.
 
2021-06-25 8:11:37 AM  
It rather seems to me that we need to figure out something to do with the damned things.  We go through a LOT of tires in this world.  We can biatch at the storage facility and how they weren't horsewhipped, but the matter stands that millions upon millions of the effing things exist.   They're wire wrapped in rubber, which is a nightmare to dis-assemble for recycling, and if you leave them in a creek, they just decompose over a few decades, slowly becoming micropolluton.  And make no mistake, people just throw them into creeks.

What do we DO with the frakking things?
 
2021-06-25 8:54:04 AM  

fireclown: It rather seems to me that we need to figure out something to do with the damned things.  We go through a LOT of tires in this world.  We can biatch at the storage facility and how they weren't horsewhipped, but the matter stands that millions upon millions of the effing things exist.   They're wire wrapped in rubber, which is a nightmare to dis-assemble for recycling, and if you leave them in a creek, they just decompose over a few decades, slowly becoming micropolluton.  And make no mistake, people just throw them into creeks.

What do we DO with the frakking things?


Burn them in coal fired power plants.

That is the recommended disposal method.
 
2021-06-25 9:29:32 AM  
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2021-06-25 10:42:36 AM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: cryinoutloud: Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.  You can't take them to the dump.  I looked for some info and it seems there's nowhere to get rid of them, anywhere in the state.

Some of these tires came with the house, which is very old.  Where are you supposed to get rid of them?

You can't build a fence or something either, because they're an eyesore.  You could paint them.

Take them to any tire shop, and pay $2-5.


drop off is free if you do it after business hours
 
2021-06-25 11:27:18 AM  
there are too many of us to tolerate failures/abuse of trust/harm to public safety from FREE MARKET OPERATORS.

It is at this stage ridiculous to ever take second chances on anyone in the free market this way.
You fooked it up and hurt us all, there is a huge line of people that want their chance at the market waiting in the wings.
It makes no sense to roll the dice on someone that already showed us their fail, when we can roll them on someone new that has no fail history yet.

Fook it up like this, and be relegated to employee only status, no more allowing you to be in a position of authority to do shiat like this again, when we got an endless pile of people all ready to it a go that DO NOT have bad mistrust history on their name.


Free market jack rags do not need to be sent to jail, they just need to be bared from having power/authority in the market again.
No second chances when you had authority, and you had privilege, and you had position, and this is what you do with it. To the fry basket with you.
 
2021-06-25 12:01:06 PM  
The collected money goes into a user fund the state pays out to those recycling old tires - most often to cement kilns burning tires for fuel, or landfills using shredded tires as daily garbage cover.

Umm... neither of those uses fits the technical definition of recycling. Repurposing, maybe. Recycling implies processing the materials and using them to make new items.
 
2021-06-25 1:00:53 PM  

fireclown: It rather seems to me that we need to figure out something to do with the damned things.  We go through a LOT of tires in this world.  We can biatch at the storage facility and how they weren't horsewhipped, but the matter stands that millions upon millions of the effing things exist.   They're wire wrapped in rubber, which is a nightmare to dis-assemble for recycling, and if you leave them in a creek, they just decompose over a few decades, slowly becoming micropolluton.  And make no mistake, people just throw them into creeks.

What do we DO with the frakking things?


Not so CSB: In middle school a group of us were playing at a friend's house. His neigbors had stacks of tires in their backyard, I think as a backstop for target shooting. There was also a fairly deep ravine behind his house. So, 8 or 10 of those tires ended up in the creek at the bottom. Fast forward 5 years, and those tires had all ended up pretty far downstream, creating a dam and flooding, and was apparently a huge pain in the ass (and expensive) to clean up.
 
2021-06-26 5:46:41 AM  
cryinoutloud

Speaking of tires, I have about 10 old tires in my shed that need to be disposed of.

Retirement home or nut house.

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