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2021-06-24 7:30:37 PM  
Problem solved:
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2021-06-24 7:47:31 PM  
I speak for a lot of people here, when I say "less" lives would have been lost, had "more" people with guns been on the scene.
 
2021-06-24 8:10:25 PM  
Caleb Keeter, guitarist for the Josh Abbott Band, posting to Twitter in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas massacre:

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2021-06-24 8:30:36 PM  
I wish TFA had a little more on the headline details.
 
2021-06-24 8:42:08 PM  
 
2021-06-24 8:53:04 PM  
I have this crazy idea that the guy would still be alive if the cops weren't so trigger happy, shooting anything without even trying to determine who they are. They probably heard a cop had been shot on the radio and showed up looking for vengeance.
 
2021-06-24 9:09:14 PM  

Lambskincoat: I speak for a lot of people here, when I say "less" lives would have been lost, had "more" people with guns been on the scene.


"Fewer."
 
2021-06-24 11:08:37 PM  
Polite society
 
2021-06-24 11:09:01 PM  
...does this end with "good guy shoots cop"?
 
2021-06-24 11:09:11 PM  

Lambskincoat: I speak for a lot of people here, when I say "less" lives would have been lost, had "more" people with guns been on the scene.


But all of you are wrong and batshiat insane.
 
2021-06-24 11:09:52 PM  
Guns, like rocket launchers, are just a tool.
 
2021-06-24 11:10:06 PM  

edmo: I wish TFA had a little more on the headline details.


You didn't think the twatter screen caps had enough detail?
 
2021-06-24 11:10:28 PM  
This is one of the reasons why "more guns" isn't the solution to gun violence.
 
2021-06-24 11:11:22 PM  

lizaardvark: ...does this end with "good guy shoots cop"?


I thought that was step 2?
 
2021-06-24 11:12:28 PM  
Three people, including an Arvada police officer, a civilian and one suspected gunman, have died

Talk about a killer 3 way
 
2021-06-24 11:14:15 PM  

Lambskincoat: I speak for a lot of people here, when I say "less" lives would have been lost, had "more" people with guns been on the scene.


First, it's "fewer."
Second, no.
 
2021-06-24 11:14:26 PM  

evilsofa: Caleb Keeter, guitarist for the Josh Abbott Band, posting to Twitter in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas massacre:

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Also, no one on the ground could have helped. Unless they had an actual sniper rifle. Even then, he stopped shooting before they could have pinpointed his location. All the other guns in the city were useless.
 
2021-06-24 11:14:45 PM  

RolfBlitzer: Guns, like rocket launchers, are just a tool.


Rocket launchers, like Davy Crockett nukes, are just a tool.

I should be able to own a Davy Crockett cannon, It is my 2A right!
 
2021-06-24 11:16:06 PM  
Just another day in 'Murica
 
2021-06-24 11:16:07 PM  

ongbok: Three people, including an Arvada police officer, a civilian and one suspected gunman, have died

Talk about a killer 3 way


Looks like God has some sorting out to do.
 
2021-06-24 11:16:37 PM  

FarkingChas: evilsofa: Caleb Keeter, guitarist for the Josh Abbott Band, posting to Twitter in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas massacre:

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Also, no one on the ground could have helped. Unless they had an actual sniper rifle. Even then, he stopped shooting before they could have pinpointed his location. All the other guns in the city were useless.


The most useful gun in the whole city was the one the shooter used to kill himself 17 minutes before the response team broke down the hotel room door.
 
2021-06-24 11:23:03 PM  
Is the gun ok?

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2021-06-24 11:27:48 PM  
But how many people were killed by cars in the city that day?

Checkmate, gun grabbers!
 
2021-06-24 11:27:59 PM  
""So, they take the shot immediately. I certainly would've done the exact same thing. Any reasonable officer that's trained would've done the exact same thing.""

IOW: If you see someone killing a police officer do not attempt to help the officer. His "reasonable" coworkers will be along shortly and will shoot you first, skip asking any questions ever, and then cover up any mistakes they made later while your cold dead ass sits in the morgue.
 
2021-06-24 11:30:25 PM  
Are the guns ok?
 
2021-06-24 11:32:09 PM  

Harlee: RolfBlitzer: Guns, like rocket launchers, are just a tool.

Rocket launchers, like Davy Crockett nukes, are just a tool.

I should be able to own a Davy Crockett cannon, It is my 2A right!


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We found Jeff's fark handle!
 
2021-06-24 11:32:19 PM  
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
2021-06-24 11:32:53 PM  
Now we know what happens in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Second cop was The Ugly.
 
2021-06-24 11:36:07 PM  
The only way to stop a good guy with a gun, is a bad cop with a gun.
 
2021-06-24 11:36:21 PM  
ACAB!!!!!!

/amIdoingitright?
 
2021-06-24 11:37:28 PM  

evilsofa: Caleb Keeter, guitarist for the Josh Abbott Band, posting to Twitter in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas massacre:

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He was fine with all the suffering of others, until it personally affected him.
 
2021-06-24 11:37:38 PM  
If you want to protect yourself, get a ballistic vest.  Get a gun/CFL if you want to shoot other people.
 
2021-06-24 11:39:51 PM  
it's the Warriors Code
 
2021-06-24 11:39:59 PM  
The Good Samaritan who died in Monday's shooting in Olde Town Arvada was shot and killed by a police bullet, Denver7 Chief Investigator Tony Kovaleski has confirmed through three informed, ranking sources - including two law enforcement sources.

Arvada Police Officer Gordon Beesley, Good Samaritan John Hurley, and the man believed to be the suspect in the original shooting, 59-year-old Ronald Troyke, all died in the shooting, but Arvada police have not said who was shot by whom.


"Good Samaritan"?!.

How biblically and absolutely the opposite of the Good Samaritan parable

Eat shiat and die, Tony Kovaleski , and Blair Miller.

What you meant to publish was "overarmed rando adding chaos to chaotic scene more-or-less-rightfully shot to death by infinitesimally better trained or disciplined overarmed cops".

Why do soldiers and police wear uniforms and badges?
 
2021-06-24 11:40:06 PM  

RedVentrue: Now we know what happens in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Second cop was The Ugly.


Summoning ancient bad movies seldom helps anyone.

So it's the old triangle shoot-out. Terrible no matter how you slice it.
 
2021-06-24 11:48:46 PM  
Well shucks, Larry - I guess it's back to the training simulator for you.
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2021-06-24 11:49:29 PM  

FarkingChas: evilsofa: Caleb Keeter, guitarist for the Josh Abbott Band, posting to Twitter in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas massacre:

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Also, no one on the ground could have helped. Unless they had an actual sniper rifle. Even then, he stopped shooting before they could have pinpointed his location. All the other guns in the city were useless.


Yeah, anything a concealed carry permit holder is going to have on their person will be good for deliberately hitting something about 25 yards away, tops under conditions where people are shooting back. That's assuming anybody could spot exactly which window they were taking fire from amidst all the chaos. People need to stop mistaking the stupid bullshiat they see on TV and movie screens for real life.
 
2021-06-24 11:53:07 PM  
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"How can I help you?"
"Make it look like a rogue weed whacker hit me in the scalp."
"Say no more, fam."
 
2021-06-24 11:54:33 PM  
This is why you never help cops.
 
2021-06-25 12:05:42 AM  
Bad guy shoots cop.  Good guy shoots bad guy.  Another cop shoots good guy

I've seen this movie!  It was really good!

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2021-06-25 12:10:55 AM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: I have this crazy idea that the guy would still be alive if the cops weren't so trigger happy, shooting anything without even trying to determine who they are. They probably heard a cop had been shot on the radio and showed up looking for vengeance.


Fewer guns results in less trigger happy cops.
 
2021-06-25 12:13:20 AM  

anotherluser: FarkingChas: evilsofa: Caleb Keeter, guitarist for the Josh Abbott Band, posting to Twitter in the aftermath of the 2017 Las Vegas massacre:

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Also, no one on the ground could have helped. Unless they had an actual sniper rifle. Even then, he stopped shooting before they could have pinpointed his location. All the other guns in the city were useless.

Yeah, anything a concealed carry permit holder is going to have on their person will be good for deliberately hitting something about 25 yards away, tops under conditions where people are shooting back. That's assuming anybody could spot exactly which window they were taking fire from amidst all the chaos. People need to stop mistaking the stupid bullshiat they see on TV and movie screens for real life.


25 yards even is pushing it, unless they already had experience with being under serious business fire.  That'll fark up just about anyone's aim at any distance till they've done it enough to compensate some.
 
2021-06-25 12:24:52 AM  
If four or so more dudes with guns were there it would have been all good. Thanks, Obama.
 
2021-06-25 12:28:11 AM  

Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: I have this crazy idea that the guy would still be alive if the cops weren't so trigger happy, shooting anything without even trying to determine who they are. They probably heard a cop had been shot on the radio and showed up looking for vengeance.


I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that responding cops are going to shoot anything moving with a gun in a situation like that. The only way to not get shot is to not have a gun or have a gun and be in obvious uniform. Plain clothes officers get shot and killed too.

I've done numerous active shooter training sessions, and I've worked details with different agencies. I don't carry much off duty because it's useless. If you can't stop the entire ordeal before officers show up, then you're going to get shot. If you're running with a gun and there's no blaring neon sign to show you're an officer yourself, you're going to get shot.
 
2021-06-25 12:37:54 AM  
My mom was there when that all went down. Not getting a kick out of this.
 
2021-06-25 12:41:45 AM  

Brokenseas: Bad guy shoots cop. Good guy shoots bad guy. Another cop shoots good guy

I've seen this movie! It was really good!

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They even rebooted it as a musical!
 
2021-06-25 12:42:25 AM  

Brosephus: Troy Aikman's Giant Thumbs: I have this crazy idea that the guy would still be alive if the cops weren't so trigger happy, shooting anything without even trying to determine who they are. They probably heard a cop had been shot on the radio and showed up looking for vengeance.

I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that responding cops are going to shoot anything moving with a gun in a situation like that. The only way to not get shot is to not have a gun or have a gun and be in obvious uniform. Plain clothes officers get shot and killed too.

I've done numerous active shooter training sessions, and I've worked details with different agencies. I don't carry much off duty because it's useless. If you can't stop the entire ordeal before officers show up, then you're going to get shot. If you're running with a gun and there's no blaring neon sign to show you're an officer yourself, you're going to get shot.


Yep. Like the poor dude in a church shooting. He disarmed the real shooter. Then he was shot as his reward.

But this is the problem. Your training. You do not need to shoot first and ask questions later. A gun in the hand of someone is not an immediate threat that must be neutralized immediately. Other countries do not train this way. And they do not even have a 2A.
 
2021-06-25 12:43:46 AM  

Jumpthruhoops: My mom was there when that all went down. Not getting a kick out of this.


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/annnnnnnnnnd that's what I get for not refreshing the thread before posting, sorry 'bout that.
 
2021-06-25 12:49:39 AM  

Brokenseas: Bad guy shoots cop.  Good guy shoots bad guy.  Another cop shoots good guy

I've seen this movie!  It was really good!

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2021-06-25 12:51:34 AM  

Twilight Farkle: Jumpthruhoops: My mom was there when that all went down. Not getting a kick out of this.

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/annnnnnnnnnd that's what I get for not refreshing the thread before posting, sorry 'bout that.


This is Fark. I come here for the awkwardness.
 
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