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2021-06-21 11:17:55 AM  
I can think of a lot of sitcom husbands, then, who should have died early on in the show.

/ "Take my wife -- please!"
 
2021-06-21 11:31:36 AM  
Just dropping in to say 'Hi'
 
2021-06-21 11:34:42 AM  
One valid reason I used to justify leaving my first marriage was a noticeable decline in my health.
 
2021-06-21 11:38:34 AM  
Stress kills is what they are saying, right???
 
2021-06-21 11:38:45 AM  
And don't the ladies know it.
 
2021-06-21 11:39:10 AM  
I knew there was an upside to dying alone.
 
2021-06-21 11:41:03 AM  
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2021-06-21 11:42:26 AM  
Why do married men die earlier than their wives?
Cuz they want to.

/ old joke
// I'm old too
/// deal with it
 
2021-06-21 11:42:46 AM  
So, the odds of these men dying is now 119%?
 
2021-06-21 11:42:49 AM  

Mugato: I knew there was an upside to dying alone.


Everybody Dies Alone
Youtube Txk7MxsyVMw
 
2021-06-21 11:43:17 AM  
I remember that one on TFD.  The guy from Maryland got caught having an affair with the woman from Tennessee.  That was a slam dunk divorce.  Quite the alledyoop!
 
2021-06-21 11:44:04 AM  
Supertramp - Take The Long Way Home (BEST QUALITY SOUND)
Youtube LPRrHyXchEY
 
2021-06-21 11:50:53 AM  
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Nuff said.....
 
2021-06-21 11:51:00 AM  
Well, not something I'll ever have to worry about.
 
2021-06-21 11:52:12 AM  

bostonguy: I can think of a lot of sitcom husbands, then, who should have died early on in the show.

/ "Take my wife -- please!"


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2021-06-21 11:52:44 AM  
Marriage is for suckers anyway
 
2021-06-21 11:53:57 AM  

tom baker's scarf: Mugato: I knew there was an upside to dying alone.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Txk7Mxsy​VMw?start=17]


"Everyone dies by himself."

"If you really believe that, who are you looking for out here?"

/ obscure?
 
2021-06-21 11:56:18 AM  
Death rate for UNMARRIED men is also 20% higher.

So what this is really confirming - again - is that men without happy marriages die sooner.
 
2021-06-21 11:57:17 AM  
Pretty sure an unhappy marriage results in the premature deaths of a lot of women. It just tends to be caused by blunt force trauma, gun shots and strangulation to name a few.
 
2021-06-21 11:57:29 AM  
'Both genders', subby...?

/not sure whether to get popcorn or nope out of the thread
 
2021-06-21 11:57:36 AM  
All I can say is that out of all the marriages I have seen from the time I was a kid until the time I left the US in my late twenties, only TWO lasted out of untold dozens of couples.

My parents. My mom and stepfather. My high school friends and their wives. My best college friend and his wife. All of my other college friends and their spouses. Everyone has gotten divorced at least once and/or was or is in a very unhappy marriage.

(I might have issues.)

The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.
 
2021-06-21 11:57:57 AM  
Woman:  Married men live longer!
Benny Hill:  It just seems longer!
 
2021-06-21 12:00:06 PM  
Why is divorce so expensive? 


BECAUSE IT'S WORTH IT
 
2021-06-21 12:01:16 PM  

cannibalparrot: bostonguy: I can think of a lot of sitcom husbands, then, who should have died early on in the show.

/ "Take my wife -- please!"

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I'm not sure whether you posted his picture in a humorous way because that's not his line (Rodney Dangerfield) or because you think Dan and Roseanne had an unhappy marriage. I only remember the old show, but I seem to recall that they were truly in love despite all the ongoing issues.
 
2021-06-21 12:01:38 PM  

bostonguy: All I can say is that out of all the marriages I have seen from the time I was a kid until the time I left the US in my late twenties, only TWO lasted out of untold dozens of couples.

My parents. My mom and stepfather. My high school friends and their wives. My best college friend and his wife. All of my other college friends and their spouses. Everyone has gotten divorced at least once and/or was or is in a very unhappy marriage.

(I might have issues.)

The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.


So the trick to a happy marriage is to be related to your friends.  Does your friend have a hot sister?
 
2021-06-21 12:02:52 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: So the trick to a happy marriage is to be related to your friends.  Does your friend have a hot sister?


Sadly, no. They are both only children.
 
2021-06-21 12:10:37 PM  

SomeAmerican: Death rate for UNMARRIED men is also 20% higher.

So what this is really confirming - again - is that men without happy marriages die sooner.


Citation?

Being single/alone/divorced is a risk factor for suicide among men., which may be part of that rate.
 
2021-06-21 12:14:24 PM  

bostonguy: The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.


The divorce rate in the US is over 50%. Then you factor in marriages of convenience, Couples who can't afford divorce, family pressures to stay together, marriages for appearances... there are probably like six happy marriages in the whole country.
 
2021-06-21 12:18:02 PM  

Mugato: bostonguy: The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.

The divorce rate in the US is over 50%. Then you factor in marriages of convenience, Couples who can't afford divorce, family pressures to stay together, marriages for appearances... there are probably like six happy marriages in the whole country.


Mine was happy until it wasn't
 
2021-06-21 12:19:52 PM  
You just stated "both" genders as if there are only two.  I agree with this statement.
 
2021-06-21 12:24:17 PM  
Don't bother getting married. Just find a woman you hate and buy her a house.
 
2021-06-21 12:26:31 PM  

Mugato: bostonguy: The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.

The divorce rate in the US is over 50%.


It's pretty complicated to calculate the divorce rate, but it's never been over 50%. It's been steadily declining over the past few decades, too.
 
2021-06-21 12:33:01 PM  

bostonguy: cannibalparrot: bostonguy: I can think of a lot of sitcom husbands, then, who should have died early on in the show.

/ "Take my wife -- please!"

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I'm not sure whether you posted his picture in a humorous way because that's not his line (Rodney Dangerfield) or because you think Dan and Roseanne had an unhappy marriage. I only remember the old show, but I seem to recall that they were truly in love despite all the ongoing issues.


Not Dangerfield either. It was Henny Youngman.

Dan Connor, he dead
Was Married to Rosanne Barr
Lucky SOB
 
2021-06-21 12:33:55 PM  

make me some tea: One valid reason I used to justify leaving my first marriage was a noticeable decline in my health.


Mine too. I almost committed suicide.
 
2021-06-21 12:36:32 PM  

Madman drummers bummers: Well, not something I'll ever have to worry about.


Aw. Well me neither, but I do believe in happy marriages.
 
2021-06-21 12:37:19 PM  

Mugato: bostonguy: The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.

The divorce rate in the US is over 50%. Then you factor in marriages of convenience, Couples who can't afford divorce, family pressures to stay together, marriages for appearances... there are probably like six happy marriages in the whole country.


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2021-06-21 12:41:34 PM  

meat0918: SomeAmerican: Death rate for UNMARRIED men is also 20% higher.

So what this is really confirming - again - is that men without happy marriages die sooner.

Citation?  Being single/alone/divorced is a risk factor for suicide among men., which may be part of that rate.


There has been over a century of studies backing this up... too many to cite or link.  But here's an article from Harvard summarizing a meta study they did. Their explanation for the substantial health impact of a happy marriage is as follows:

Good marriages promote health and longevity, but stressful and shattered marriages have the opposite effect, especially for men. Why?  The explanations fall into three categories: biological, behavioral, and psychological.

The biological explanations center on stress  The behavioral factors are no less important.  Unmarried, divorced, and widowed men don't eat as well as married men. They are less likely to exercise but are more likely to smoke, drink excessively, and engage in other risky behaviors.  Loneliness, depression, and social isolation also contribute to the excess mortality associated with bereavement, divorce, or never having married.
 
2021-06-21 12:49:18 PM  

SomeAmerican: meat0918: SomeAmerican: Death rate for UNMARRIED men is also 20% higher.

So what this is really confirming - again - is that men without happy marriages die sooner.

Citation?  Being single/alone/divorced is a risk factor for suicide among men., which may be part of that rate.

There has been over a century of studies backing this up... too many to cite or link.  But here's an article from Harvard summarizing a meta study they did. Their explanation for the substantial health impact of a happy marriage is as follows:

Good marriages promote health and longevity, but stressful and shattered marriages have the opposite effect, especially for men. Why?  The explanations fall into three categories: biological, behavioral, and psychological.

The biological explanations center on stress  The behavioral factors are no less important.  Unmarried, divorced, and widowed men don't eat as well as married men. They are less likely to exercise but are more likely to smoke, drink excessively, and engage in other risky behaviors.  Loneliness, depression, and social isolation also contribute to the excess mortality associated with bereavement, divorce, or never having married.


Thanks!

I do appreciate it.
 
2021-06-21 12:49:55 PM  

Creoena: Mugato: bostonguy: The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.

The divorce rate in the US is over 50%. Then you factor in marriages of convenience, Couples who can't afford divorce, family pressures to stay together, marriages for appearances... there are probably like six happy marriages in the whole country.

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2021-06-21 1:02:40 PM  
My husband and I have been married for forty one years. We're still crazy about each other. My parents and his were also married for over sixty years. There are more happy marriages out there than you would know if you only went by FARK threads.
 
2021-06-21 1:02:57 PM  

SomeAmerican: meat0918: SomeAmerican: Death rate for UNMARRIED men is also 20% higher.

So what this is really confirming - again - is that men without happy marriages die sooner.

Citation?  Being single/alone/divorced is a risk factor for suicide among men., which may be part of that rate.

There has been over a century of studies backing this up... too many to cite or link.  But here's an article from Harvard summarizing a meta study they did. Their explanation for the substantial health impact of a happy marriage is as follows:

Good marriages promote health and longevity, but stressful and shattered marriages have the opposite effect, especially for men. Why?  The explanations fall into three categories: biological, behavioral, and psychological.

The biological explanations center on stress  The behavioral factors are no less important.  Unmarried, divorced, and widowed men don't eat as well as married men. They are less likely to exercise but are more likely to smoke, drink excessively, and engage in other risky behaviors.  Loneliness, depression, and social isolation also contribute to the excess mortality associated with bereavement, divorce, or never having married.


In my experience, a lot of people need a partner in order to make healthy life choices. They won't do it for themselves, instead giving up and being complete jerks who smell funny, wear dirty clothes, and drink or drug too much, eat nothing but fast food, etc.

I have someone who feeds me and doesn't complain if the housekeeping slips a bit, because I'll clean it up in a week or less. I do the laundry chore he hates the most, and we agree on money about 90% of the time. It's not all peaches and cream, because I am a lot more obstreperous and he can say scathing things about my wanting experiences that he (scathingly) dismisses, such as having a back yard concert or watching meteor showers.

My solution is to do it anyway.

/25 years coming up soon
 
2021-06-21 1:07:51 PM  

fiddlehead: Mugato: bostonguy: The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.

The divorce rate in the US is over 50%.

It's pretty complicated to calculate the divorce rate, but it's never been over 50%. It's been steadily declining over the past few decades, too.


This. The number of new divorces each year is roughly half the number of new marriages, so people assume that 50% of marriages end in divorce. This ignores the millions of couples who did not get married or divorced that year, just stayed married.
 
2021-06-21 1:15:20 PM  
Been married 17 years, for us we are a good team, we are different but can Work together super well, especially to solve a problem.

/got 99 problems but my wife is not one of them

// choose well at the beginning and save yourself a lot of misfortune.

///a big part of it is thinking for the team not just the individual. You need that mindset to raise children successfully or just have a happy family.
 
2021-06-21 1:16:32 PM  
This thread is relevant to my interests.

I will die of the stress of ongoing emotional abuse if I stay, or of the guilt of feeling that I've abandoned my daughter if I live.

Ahh, the beauty of having choices...
 
2021-06-21 1:20:54 PM  

fiddlehead: It's pretty complicated to calculate the divorce rate, but it's never been over 50%. It's been steadily declining over the past few decades, too.


*shrug* that's what I've heard all my life.

/divorce rate in my household is 100%
 
2021-06-21 1:21:33 PM  
Married men don't live longer, it just feels like it.
 
2021-06-21 1:36:52 PM  

BurghDude: I will die of the stress of ongoing emotional abuse if I stay, or of the guilt of feeling that I've abandoned my daughter if I live.


That sucks. Obviously I don't know your situation and probably should not say anything. But can you not leave or divorce or something in a way that will let you take your daughter?
 
2021-06-21 2:01:49 PM  

bostonguy: tom baker's scarf: Mugato: I knew there was an upside to dying alone.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/Txk7Mxsy​VMw?start=17]

"Everyone dies by himself."

"If you really believe that, who are you looking for out here?"

/ obscure?


Someone to live with.
 
2021-06-21 2:06:11 PM  

meat0918: Mugato: bostonguy: The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.

The divorce rate in the US is over 50%. Then you factor in marriages of convenience, Couples who can't afford divorce, family pressures to stay together, marriages for appearances... there are probably like six happy marriages in the whole country.

Mine was happy until it wasn't


There's a show on Masterpiece Theater right now called Us.  It's basically kind of going over how things are fine, except they're not. Sometimes things seem to be going along fine, but one person isn't happy at all.  If there's not animosity/anger, the marriage will continue, often with one side completely blindsided when it happens. Sometimes it's just "not working out" or there are little things that, once accumulated, just add up to be too much.
 
2021-06-21 2:10:06 PM  

Mugato: bostonguy: The only marriages that lasted and were happy until death were the parents of my high school best friend and the aunt and uncle of my college best friend.

The divorce rate in the US is over 50%. Then you factor in marriages of convenience, Couples who can't afford divorce, family pressures to stay together, marriages for appearances... there are probably like six happy marriages in the whole country.


Nope.

The majority of first time marriages end in the death of a spouse.  I think it's over 60%.

It's the morons who are poor at picking partners that leads to that.  I have one relative that have been married at least 5 times and divorced at least 3 times (one husband died).
 
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