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(NBC Bay Area)   COVID-19 is still a scary mystery, but at least it led to a fulfilling nomadic career of doing contract work while living in a van for these meddling kids   (nbcbayarea.com) divider line
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2021-06-20 9:31:48 PM  
How do they get mail?
 
2021-06-20 11:22:57 PM  

Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?


Does anyone actually get anything besides junk mail these days?
 
2021-06-20 11:29:21 PM  

Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?


On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically. Maybe some utility companies, but that wouldn't apply to people with no fixed address.
Also, PO Boxes exist.
 
2021-06-20 11:31:38 PM  

Summoner101: Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?

Does anyone actually get anything besides junk mail these days?


Jury duty.
This sounds like another one of those new lifestyles that are not new and only used because you have no responsibilities yet.
It's not a home is your leaving it for basic life necessities like bath room, shower, cooking real food inside, entertaining etc.
Van babies?
Would be fun for a few months taking a tour  of the country but that's a road trip not a lifestyle.
 
2021-06-20 11:31:59 PM  
FTA:

When Erica Horn received a work email in May 2020 saying her company would be fully remote for the next year, she knew right away it was time to live out her long-held dream......


TLDR, but yes, the Gypsy lifestyle is absolutely the way to go if you can make it happen.
 
2021-06-20 11:33:27 PM  
By a river=Life Long Loser

By the beach=Life Winner.
 
2021-06-20 11:35:12 PM  
If that's what you're into, great.

I prefer to have a living space larger than my bathroom.
 
2021-06-20 11:36:07 PM  
Nationwide Burning Man. Yay?
 
2021-06-20 11:36:14 PM  
Good for them. It's the Millennials/Gen-Z/whatever who are going to have to live with the consequences of today's decisions, so more power to them... and we should be giving them more skin in the game. God knows we've been fed a boatload of bullshiat over the last several decades about things are supposed to be, how we're supposed to live, etc. And maybe it all made sense at the time, but things/times changes and each generation needs to figure out a few things on their own.
 
2021-06-20 11:36:42 PM  

Trainspotr: Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?

On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically. Maybe some utility companies, but that wouldn't apply to people with no fixed address.
Also, PO Boxes exist.


I think you still need a fixed address for a fair number of things: drivers license (or other official ID), bank account, health insurance, vehicle registration, etc.  You can provide a PO box for the mailings themselves, but you have to provide them with an address of record too.  One of the guys in the article just uses his van as a WFH office, but still lives at home.  Others I assume use a family address or a close friend.  Some might just let their information lapse (e.g. they had an apartment and registered everything there, but then just left and figured "close enough").
 
2021-06-20 11:39:18 PM  

Trainspotr: Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?

On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically. Maybe some utility companies, but that wouldn't apply to people with no fixed address.
Also, PO Boxes exist.


P.o box your still tied to 1 location.  I read on some previous thread of a place that handles mail for people like this.
shiat she paid 60k for a van that she will never recover.  Buy a $75k used RV with 11k miles that has a real bedroom and bathroom as well as a functional kitchen and you can have guests in.  In a year or 2 when you want to settle for reasons you can recoup most of your investment.
 
2021-06-20 11:39:34 PM  
There was a group of young blacksmiths that caught a guy stealing.
"I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those metalling kids!" the perp exclaimed.
 
2021-06-20 11:39:44 PM  
Also known as "cheating on your taxes by lying about your place of residency."

Most "digital nomads" don't abide by the laws of the places they visit, ve it spending six months in Mexico as "tourists" or bouncing between US states without tracking how many days they worked in each state. It's a lifestyle based around skirting the law.
 
2021-06-20 11:44:45 PM  

Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?


You can always have the mail sent to someone. You then tell them the address of the place you are going to. We did that for the summer a few years ago. It was nice.
 
2021-06-20 11:46:52 PM  

ctighe2353: she paid 60k for a van that she will never recover.  Buy a $75k used RV


Depends how much you are driving. If you're staying for a month, moving, staying for 3 weeks, moving, sure, the RV may be a better deal.  If you're driving every other day on average, then the gas costs run the RV price up quite a bit.  And a van is a lot easier to park and to deal with in towns.

The $60k, if she uses it as a place to live for a few years, is fairly easy to justify.  Compare that to what most people pay for a car and rent for several years, it's fairly even.

Articles like this love the pictures of beautiful places. "We're the only ones on the beach!" and "Look at the sunset".  Reality is usually crowded campgrounds and Cracker Barrel or Walmart parking lots.
 
2021-06-20 11:55:24 PM  
Van Life | Portlandia | Season 8
Youtube TIH4ElBo4l0
 
2021-06-20 11:55:46 PM  
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2021-06-20 11:59:05 PM  
To be honest, while I like a good vacation, one day I want to settle down. The unfortunate thing is that the places I like are not very affordable or easy.
 
2021-06-21 12:03:25 AM  

Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?


Mail is totally establishment, man.
 
2021-06-21 12:03:38 AM  

Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?


5G or LTE is pretty much everywhere. Hell, Gmail works okay on GPRS if you're extra patient.
 
2021-06-21 12:03:56 AM  

Trainspotr: On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically.


Sure, let me just email those shoes I just ordered on Zappos.
 
2021-06-21 12:10:56 AM  

Baloo Uriza: Trainspotr: On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically.

Sure, let me just email those shoes I just ordered on Zappos.


Amazon locker will work for that type of thing. Perhaps even from Zappos.
 
2021-06-21 12:13:20 AM  

ctighe2353: Summoner101: Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?

Does anyone actually get anything besides junk mail these days?

Jury duty.



Jury duty is generally only an obligation if you permanently live in a location.
 
2021-06-21 12:15:27 AM  
This seems like a ploy by billionaires to re-brand homelessness so people will keep working after they've sold off all their assets and still can't afford their rent/mortgage.

/worked mostly from home since 07, was never tempted to try "van life."
//Bought land instead.
///The mail question has been pretty well sorted:
https://www.earthclassmail.com/
 
2021-06-21 12:21:37 AM  
Everyone poops.
 
2021-06-21 12:29:16 AM  

Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?


Virtual mailbox for snail mail
Amazon Locker for delivered items
E-mail for everything else
 
2021-06-21 12:34:35 AM  
So... pretty much like every desk slave who was somehow convinced before the pandemic that they needed to be in the office for management to flex their dysfunctional type-A personalities on them?
 
2021-06-21 12:35:02 AM  

New Rising Sun: Trainspotr: Cafe Threads: How do they get mail?

On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically. Maybe some utility companies, but that wouldn't apply to people with no fixed address.
Also, PO Boxes exist.

I think you still need a fixed address for a fair number of things: drivers license (or other official ID), bank account, health insurance, vehicle registration, etc.  You can provide a PO box for the mailings themselves, but you have to provide them with an address of record too.  One of the guys in the article just uses his van as a WFH office, but still lives at home.  Others I assume use a family address or a close friend.  Some might just let their information lapse (e.g. they had an apartment and registered everything there, but then just left and figured "close enough").


St. Brendan's Isle
 
2021-06-21 12:35:54 AM  

CitizenReserveCorps: Baloo Uriza: Trainspotr: On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically.

Sure, let me just email those shoes I just ordered on Zappos.

Amazon locker will work for that type of thing. Perhaps even from Zappos.


I have a permanent address and still choose to deliver most packages to our local version of Amazon locker because I never have to worry whether I'll be home or not at that particular time. It's a 5 minute walk for me.
 
2021-06-21 12:38:56 AM  

neaorin: CitizenReserveCorps: Baloo Uriza: Trainspotr: On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically.

Sure, let me just email those shoes I just ordered on Zappos.

Amazon locker will work for that type of thing. Perhaps even from Zappos.

I have a permanent address and still choose to deliver most packages to our local version of Amazon locker because I never have to worry whether I'll be home or not at that particular time. It's a 5 minute walk for me.


My permanent address is ~ 10k miles away. I use Amazon lockers.
 
2021-06-21 12:42:30 AM  

neaorin: CitizenReserveCorps: Baloo Uriza: Trainspotr: On their computers and phones, mainly. I can't think of any correspondence that can't be handled electronically.

Sure, let me just email those shoes I just ordered on Zappos.

Amazon locker will work for that type of thing. Perhaps even from Zappos.

I have a permanent address and still choose to deliver most packages to our local version of Amazon locker because I never have to worry whether I'll be home or not at that particular time. It's a 5 minute walk for me.


My local Whole Foods has turned part of the store into a really nice Amazon pickup facility. They basically keep all the packages on shelves and then an attendant only shoves it in a locker when you go into the app and tell them you are picking it up. That solves the issue of the lockers getting filled up with quickly. It also  is great for returns. You just return the item in the app, and they scan a QR code when you give it to them, and the refund happens in a matter of minutes.
 
2021-06-21 12:47:16 AM  

JuggleGeek: Articles like this love the pictures of beautiful places. "We're the only ones on the beach!" and "Look at the sunset".  Reality is usually crowded campgrounds and Cracker Barrel or Walmart parking lots.


The "love to travel" bit confused me. Is America even that different in most of the places where you can park a van for an evening?

I think this is a more interesting approach to the work from home life. But I've also seen people who live out of their cars because they're forced to. How much of the decision to live without plumbing was a choice and how much was a necessity?
 
2021-06-21 1:34:13 AM  
Do they shower everyday?  If not it could account for dirty van symdrone, the van isn't smelly, you are.
 
2021-06-21 1:47:22 AM  
Budderball - Hippy Van Breakdown
Youtube eZjxHL9TLa0
 
2021-06-21 1:48:53 AM  
Hippy van's got three flat tires and the engine's on fire...
 
2021-06-21 2:21:03 AM  
"She works remotely for Outdoorsy, an RV and van rental company."
I knew it would be in there.  She sells recreation to first-world hobos.
That's a funny definition of "fulfilling."  Are they lost?  That's what they get for working in marketing.

Too bad they have to ruin everything for everyone else while they're finding themselves, by plugging  into more consumerism.
While they're blaming the boomers for being pigs, by the way.

You had more meaningful lives when you were housewives and raised kids.

/ But now we can raise our kids in a van!
 
2021-06-21 2:23:04 AM  

BretMavrik: Good for them. It's the Millennials/Gen-Z/whatever who are going to have to live with the consequences of today's decisions, so more power to them... and we should be giving them more skin in the game. God knows we've been fed a boatload of bullshiat over the last several decades about things are supposed to be, how we're supposed to live, etc. And maybe it all made sense at the time, but things/times changes and each generation needs to figure out a few things on their own.


Like using even more resources than anyone ever?
You're right, that's brilliant.

You guys are ridiculous.
 
2021-06-21 4:43:08 AM  
If Erica needs a little sexy time (dog doesn't count) I'm available. Assuming she's a Farkette, which is reasonable, eip. I'll make the bed to remove that task from such a busy day.

/off to buy one of those "if the van is rockin' don't come knockin'" stickers.

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2021-06-21 7:13:27 AM  
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The 70's did it better
 
2021-06-21 1:40:17 PM  
Covid19 is the main fact that the GOP is still trying to cancel culture.
Too bad they can't cancel science like they want to.
The job market is currently reflecting the extra deaths of Americans the Republicans have tried to deny.
Covid19 has turned the table on Republican wage suppression attempts.
 
2021-06-22 3:33:52 AM  

cryinoutloud: "She works remotely for Outdoorsy, an RV and van rental company."
I knew it would be in there.  She sells recreation to first-world hobos.
That's a funny definition of "fulfilling."  Are they lost?  That's what they get for working in marketing.

Too bad they have to ruin everything for everyone else while they're finding themselves, by plugging  into more consumerism.
While they're blaming the boomers for being pigs, by the way.

You had more meaningful lives when you were housewives and raised kids.

/ But now we can raise our kids in a van!


Van lifers are generally way less prone to consumerism than the average home dweller. A lack of storage space means they don't usually buy stuff they don't really need. From what I've seen they generally get really good at making do with the stuff they already have. There's also no big home, no multiple cars for the family etc.

And while this isn't everyone's cup of tea, I'm not sure how this particular lifestyle is supposed to be "ruining it for everyone else". Maybe it's because "everyone else" might be bitter idiots who presume to know better what is supposed to bring meaning to random people's lives.
 
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