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2021-06-20 5:28:09 PM  
Do it already. Every idiot gere on Fark told you you wouldn't get anywhere trying to get the Republicans on board.
 
2021-06-20 5:31:16 PM  
There has to be.
 
2021-06-20 5:31:21 PM  
"The attraction with the [Homeland Security panel] is you get Katko,

Attraction?

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To each their own, I guess.
 
2021-06-20 5:40:31 PM  
This will go the way all congressional investigations go. Lots of hearings, lots of rhetoric, and in the end nothing happens. I've yet to see anybody go to jail or anything else.
 
2021-06-20 6:04:55 PM  

Fara Clark: This will go the way all congressional investigations go. Lots of hearings, lots of rhetoric, and in the end nothing happens. I've yet to see anybody go to jail or anything else.


When you strike at the king, you'd best not miss.

Therefore this will take some time.
 
2021-06-20 6:07:11 PM  
These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.
 
2021-06-20 6:07:15 PM  

make me some tea: Fara Clark: This will go the way all congressional investigations go. Lots of hearings, lots of rhetoric, and in the end nothing happens. I've yet to see anybody go to jail or anything else.

When you strike at the king, you'd best not miss.

Therefore this will take some time.


People have to be taught patience.
 
2021-06-20 6:17:24 PM  

thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.


There were gallows built.
There were threats of hanging.
There were threats of shooting lawmakers and there were weapons found.

Not sure what right wing blogger you are getting your info from.
 
2021-06-20 6:23:48 PM  

thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.


Yea, I think I'll rely on the FBI's definition of Domestic Terrorism.

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They are the arbiters on it, not the Oxford Languages definition on a google search result for 'terrorism', which I must also add says "especially", not "always". These assholes check off 2 out of the 3 qualifications for the FBI to go after them full force.
 
2021-06-20 6:45:20 PM  

thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.



...

*turns and walks away*
 
2021-06-20 6:47:23 PM  
Damn, at least be subtle.
 
2021-06-20 7:23:40 PM  

Fara Clark: This will go the way all congressional investigations go. Lots of hearings, lots of rhetoric, and in the end nothing happens. I've yet to see anybody go to jail or anything else.


Iran-Contra is the last one I can remember that resulted in jail time for anyone.
 
2021-06-20 7:38:31 PM  
*sigh*
 
2021-06-20 7:40:37 PM  

thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.


They call everything terrorism nowadays. This doesn't qualify?

Anyway, investigate away. You'll come up with dick.

Settle down McConnell, it's just an expression.
 
2021-06-20 7:42:09 PM  
But it has to be bipartisan!

Just like the Benghazi hearings.
 
2021-06-20 7:43:39 PM  
We're already re-recounting the ballots in atlanta and Maricopa county. Can't we have investigations into the ballots cast in Detroit and Philadelphia first, before descending into the minutia of who tried to assassinate and overthrow who?
 
2021-06-20 7:44:41 PM  

Summoner101: But it has to be bipartisan!

Just like the Benghazi hearings.


You know they are not saying that right?
If you actual read the article it says the have given up on it being bi-partisan and just deciding the best way to move ahead.

So you are blaming people for doing the opposite of what they are actually doing.
 
2021-06-20 7:47:35 PM  
I tried to read TFA, but The Hill has the most annoying video pop-ups I have ever seen.  I'm sick of my eyes playing dodgeball while I'm trying to read something.  Fark The Hill.
 
2021-06-20 7:48:42 PM  

thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.


Username checks out.
 
2021-06-20 7:48:52 PM  
We need to get to the bottom of this: was it BLM, antifa, the CNN, a TikTok flash mob? There's just so many questions about what happened on that unremarkable day where a bunch of rowdy people showed up to peacefully tour the capitol.
 
2021-06-20 7:49:25 PM  

Raoul Eaton: I tried to read TFA, but The Hill has the most annoying video pop-ups I have ever seen.  I'm sick of my eyes playing dodgeball while I'm trying to read something.  Fark The Hill.


adblock is your friend.
 
2021-06-20 7:50:07 PM  

thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.


Everybody point and laugh at the dumb one.
 
2021-06-20 7:50:08 PM  

Corvus: Summoner101: But it has to be bipartisan!

Just like the Benghazi hearings.

You know they are not saying that right?
If you actual read the article it says the have given up on it being bi-partisan and just deciding the best way to move ahead.

So you are blaming people for doing the opposite of what they are actually doing.


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2021-06-20 7:50:15 PM  
Talk - action = nothing
 
2021-06-20 7:53:39 PM  
If you're sober, a fun drinking game is to take a drink everytime the Democrats say they're going to do something and then do it.
You can still remain sober.
 
2021-06-20 7:55:02 PM  
This should have been done 5 months ago. Dems are slow walking this because they lack the courage and conviction to do what needs to be done.

It's like they're all power bottoms.
 
2021-06-20 7:56:49 PM  
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Go ahead and give the GOP their chance to shoot the idea down, and just form the select committee and do it.
 
2021-06-20 7:57:56 PM  
We may never know who sent that mob of angry trump supporters from the trump rally to go storm the capitol building shouting trump slogans and trying to murder trumps opponents with trump flags.

Its a total mystery.
 
2021-06-20 7:59:10 PM  

Scruffynerf: This should have been done 5 months ago. Dems are slow walking this because they lack the courage and conviction to do what needs to be done.

It's like they're all power bottoms.


Democrats are in no way power bottoms lol. They're more like masochistic subs.
 
2021-06-20 8:01:08 PM  
This might be a good place to leave a link to this Angry Staff Officer essay, if you want to hear what loyal Civil War veterans thought of treasonous bastards. It's a good read.
 
2021-06-20 8:01:13 PM  

thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.


They were non-state actors using violence and the threats of violence in pursuit of political aims.

That is the dictionary definition of terrorism.
 
2021-06-20 8:05:51 PM  
Its doa in the Senate. It won't be a bipartisan effort in the House and therefore results won't have actionable consequences. Not saying the House shouldn't form a committee and investigate anyways bringing onboard any Republicans that are actually interested in the truth.

Probably the best result is if actual verifiable crimes are uncovered it would give the DOJ reasonable cause to open additional lines of investigation other than that of the little people. It's entirely possible they are already doing this under the radar.

Every time white people get away with murder it encourages white people to get away with more murder. Farking put these people behind bars and stop the bleeding. Or at least slow it.
 
2021-06-20 8:07:19 PM  

make me some tea: Fara Clark: This will go the way all congressional investigations go. Lots of hearings, lots of rhetoric, and in the end nothing happens. I've yet to see anybody go to jail or anything else.

When you strike at the king, you'd best not miss.

Therefore this will take some time.


That exact line has been repeated ad nauseam whenever people wanted results or even signs of life from Mueller.

There were no results then, there are no results now .

Let's not treat every expectation of justice as a test of patience. Justice delayed is justice denied.
 
2021-06-20 8:11:49 PM  

chewd: We may never know who sent that mob of angry trump supporters from the trump rally to go storm the capitol building shouting trump slogans and trying to murder trumps opponents with trump flags.

Its a total mystery.


Truly a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma

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2021-06-20 8:20:04 PM  

edmo: Do it already. Every idiot gere on Fark told you you wouldn't get anywhere trying to get the Republicans on board.


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*nervous*
 
2021-06-20 8:22:52 PM  

Lsherm: Fara Clark: This will go the way all congressional investigations go. Lots of hearings, lots of rhetoric, and in the end nothing happens. I've yet to see anybody go to jail or anything else.

Iran-Contra is the last one I can remember that resulted in jail time for anyone.


People went to jail over Whitewater, just not the Clintons.  They got clean away with all those murders.
 
2021-06-20 8:23:42 PM  
Spoiler alert, but every Republican media source pushed it, including Trump.  Then idiots showed up, either duped by a heavily ingrained spin machine that a working system was broken and/or just wanting to wreck Dems.  Then the Republicans that helped cause it tried to distance themselves while refusing to resign or be held accountable.

Just make the check for the investigation out to Oysterman.
 
2021-06-20 8:23:53 PM  
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2021-06-20 8:25:18 PM  
Like we don't know why this happened and who did it.

An investigation into the security response is needed though, i.e. why it took so long to get a forceful response
 
2021-06-20 8:26:03 PM  

scottydoesntknow: thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.

Yea, I think I'll rely on the FBI's definition of Domestic Terrorism.

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They are the arbiters on it, not the Oxford Languages definition on a google search result for 'terrorism', which I must also add says "especially", not "always". These assholes check off 2 out of the 3 qualifications for the FBI to go after them full force.


Actually a tough one, and I'm not going to bother comparing, but I'd go with the dictionary.  The FBI is going to define pretty much everything in a way that allows the FBI to have as much power as they can get.  Some of the most skilled turf warriors who ever lived.

Think Woodward & Bernstein took down Nixon.  Nope.  He lost a turf war with the FBI.
 
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2021-06-20 8:27:22 PM  

Naido: Lsherm: Fara Clark: This will go the way all congressional investigations go. Lots of hearings, lots of rhetoric, and in the end nothing happens. I've yet to see anybody go to jail or anything else.

Iran-Contra is the last one I can remember that resulted in jail time for anyone.

People went to jail over Whitewater, just not the Clintons.  They got clean away with all those murders.


Also, the Valerie Plame leak... they had to get an assistant to take the fall in return for an eventual pardon (and other unspecified compensation).
 
2021-06-20 8:32:08 PM  

chewd: We may never know who sent that mob of angry trump supporters from the trump rally to go storm the capitol building shouting trump slogans and trying to murder trumps opponents with trump flags.

Its a total mystery.


And Trump is also the reason nothing will be done about it .. Can't be holding a past president accountable for their actions other than remove him from office and they couldn't even get that done .. It all came down to the American people coming together to vote his dumb ass out of office .. And that will most likely be the end of it .. His minions need to answer for their crimes ..
 
2021-06-20 8:33:37 PM  
I can't farking believe this is still being negotiated. Did the Warren Commission and the 9/11 Commission take so long to organize?
 
2021-06-20 8:34:54 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: I can't farking believe this is still being negotiated. Did the Warren Commission and the 9/11 Commission take so long to organize?


What. The. fark. Are. You. Investigating?
 
2021-06-20 8:35:30 PM  

make me some tea: Fara Clark: This will go the way all congressional investigations go. Lots of hearings, lots of rhetoric, and in the end nothing happens. I've yet to see anybody go to jail or anything else.

When you strike at the king, you'd best not miss.

Therefore this will take some time.


Who's the king in your scenario? Cause right now Republicans control two branches of government, Jack and shiat.
 
2021-06-20 8:36:06 PM  

Chinesenookiefactory: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: I can't farking believe this is still being negotiated. Did the Warren Commission and the 9/11 Commission take so long to organize?

What. The. fark. Are. You. Investigating?


Republican Party members who not only collided with the planning and dissemination of the rally, but who escalated the rally to violence, and who was responsible.
 
2021-06-20 8:37:43 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: I can't farking believe this is still being negotiated. Did the Warren Commission and the 9/11 Commission take so long to organize?


Look at the leadership of both parties.

That's why.
 
2021-06-20 8:39:23 PM  

Naido: scottydoesntknow: thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.

Yea, I think I'll rely on the FBI's definition of Domestic Terrorism.

[Fark user image image 850x492]

They are the arbiters on it, not the Oxford Languages definition on a google search result for 'terrorism', which I must also add says "especially", not "always". These assholes check off 2 out of the 3 qualifications for the FBI to go after them full force.

Actually a tough one, and I'm not going to bother comparing, but I'd go with the dictionary.  The FBI is going to define pretty much everything in a way that allows the FBI to have as much power as they can get.  Some of the most skilled turf warriors who ever lived.

Think Woodward & Bernstein took down Nixon.  Nope.  He lost a turf war with the FBI.


So go with the dictionary. The dictionary says "especially against civilians", but not "exclusively" against civilians. That's discussing frequency, not a requirement. The main requirement is it must be in furtherance of some political aim/goal.

For example a guy bombs a polling place because he hates a politician for X reasons and wants to effect his chance at being elected, killing a voter who might or might not have voted for the politician. Or the same guy decides to bomb the politician's home, killing said politician and removing his chance entirely. One targeted a civilian, the other the politician directly. If you can explain why one would be considered domestic terrorism and the other wouldn't, I'm all ears.
 
2021-06-20 8:41:31 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Naido: scottydoesntknow: thedumbone: These rioters were certainly in the wrong, but not everything is terrorism.  I don't recall anyone threatening uninvolved civilian bystanders.

Yea, I think I'll rely on the FBI's definition of Domestic Terrorism.

[Fark user image image 850x492]

They are the arbiters on it, not the Oxford Languages definition on a google search result for 'terrorism', which I must also add says "especially", not "always". These assholes check off 2 out of the 3 qualifications for the FBI to go after them full force.

Actually a tough one, and I'm not going to bother comparing, but I'd go with the dictionary.  The FBI is going to define pretty much everything in a way that allows the FBI to have as much power as they can get.  Some of the most skilled turf warriors who ever lived.

Think Woodward & Bernstein took down Nixon.  Nope.  He lost a turf war with the FBI.

So go with the dictionary. The dictionary says "especially against civilians", but not "exclusively" against civilians. That's discussing frequency, not a requirement. The main requirement is it must be in furtherance of some political aim/goal.

For example a guy bombs a polling place because he hates a politician for X reasons and wants to effect his chance at being elected, killing a voter who might or might not have voted for the politician. Or the same guy decides to bomb the politician's home, killing said politician and removing his chance entirely. One targeted a civilian, the other the politician directly. If you can explain why one would be considered domestic terrorism and the other wouldn't, I'm all ears.


The dude you are arguing against is a traitor and trying to excuse traitors.

fark them and those assholes that committed an assault on democracy.

I don't think pedantry is gonna to save them.
 
2021-06-20 8:42:11 PM  

phaseolus: This might be a good place to leave a link to this Angry Staff Officer essay, if you want to hear what loyal Civil War veterans thought of treasonous bastards. It's a good read.


Amazing read.
 
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