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2021-06-20 10:39:04 AM  
Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it
 
2021-06-20 10:54:51 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it


All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.
 
2021-06-20 11:49:08 AM  
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2021-06-20 11:50:55 AM  

Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it


He would have won simply for not dumping on McCain every chance he got.
 
2021-06-20 12:47:42 PM  
I don't think I've ever seen the words "independent analysis" so close to the words "Washington Examiner."
 
2021-06-20 1:22:42 PM  

BizarreMan: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.


Yup. Shockingly if not for the pandemic and letting 600,000 Americans end up in graves with countless more likely suffering life long injury, mass homelessness, and all the other fallout, he'd probably still be in office.

This nation is fuked.
 
2021-06-20 1:25:03 PM  
It's pretty weird. People that really don't like you are somewhat more unlikely to vote for you. Crazy.
 
2021-06-20 1:25:55 PM  

HerptheDerp: BizarreMan: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.

Yup. Shockingly if not for the pandemic and letting 600,000 Americans end up in graves with countless more likely suffering life long injury, mass homelessness, and all the other fallout, he'd probably still be in office.

This nation is fuked.


Obama handed Trump an easy victory and trump was too stupid to take advantage of it.  The solution to the puzzle was written on the back of the placemat the whole time!
 
2021-06-20 1:26:09 PM  
Well somebody had to vote for him, or the machines wouldn't have had any votes to switch to Biden.
 
2021-06-20 1:29:19 PM  

mrshowrules: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

He would have won simply for not dumping on McCain every chance he got.


Right? What was even the point? It's not like that GOT him any voters.
 
2021-06-20 1:29:27 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it


If he had pulled off an infrastructure deal that created blue collar, hard hat jobs, he would have been reelected. But GOP forces wanted to only pay 20% of the cost, make states pay heavy, and privatize much so toll roads and toll bridges. That wouldn't have played well.

Thus, GOP infighting killed him.
 
2021-06-20 1:29:43 PM  

BizarreMan: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.


He could have also laid off McCain. He kept insulting the guy even after he was dead. That hurt him with some AZ voters. More importantly, it farked him with Cindy McCain and their rich friends in the state. Local donors and political operatives in that group had reasons to either not help Trump or actively work against him,
 
2021-06-20 1:32:38 PM  
My take away from these disaffected Republican voters is that if Trump wasn't an incompetent numb nuts seeking short term gain at long term cost in regards to the stock market and pandemic handling we would be looking at Trumps second term.
 
2021-06-20 1:34:08 PM  

kbronsito: BizarreMan: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.

He could have also laid off McCain. He kept insulting the guy even after he was dead. That hurt him with some AZ voters. More importantly, it farked him with Cindy McCain and their rich friends in the state. Local donors and political operatives in that group had reasons to either not help Trump or actively work against him,


You'd expect more from a polished, long-game politician, like Donald Trump.
 
2021-06-20 1:36:28 PM  

BizarreMan: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.


He believes he has the ability to control reality with his thoughts and words. I think one of the reasons his response to the pandemic was so poor is that he believed saying, "One day soon it will go away, like a miracle" was the same as doing something. On account of he's nuts.
 
2021-06-20 1:38:28 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it



I hear this theory all the time and I can't agree with it.  The inability or refusal to change is part of what drives the conservative psyche.  Steering even slightly towards the middle would not help him.
 
2021-06-20 1:42:13 PM  
And if trump hadn't kept banging on voter fraud, the GQP wouldn't have lost both Georgia Senate seats.  I've seen estimates as high as 200,000 Republicans didn't vote in the special election.

On the other hand, it may have been the best thing he's ever done for the Country.
 
2021-06-20 1:42:45 PM  
There was no Election theft. Half-wits didn't vote for Trump -- twice. Anybody but the Greatest Fool in Chistendom and the Father of Lies could see that. And his Faithful, of course.
 
2021-06-20 1:47:19 PM  
An unofficial bipartisan election analysis as opposed to the other official partisan election shiat show analyis  that's allowed to continue in Arizona ..
 
2021-06-20 1:48:39 PM  
With all this election fraud, Republicans really should just avoid wasting the time to vote and instead vote with their pocketbooks. That will really stick it to dems.
 
2021-06-20 1:52:16 PM  
So, if I'm reading this correctly, the entire Republican party (with the exceptions of Romney and Cheney) is kowtowing to a guy who will cost them votes in the next election.
 
2021-06-20 1:53:14 PM  
Is it because he was too crazy for them, or not crazy enough?
 
2021-06-20 1:56:33 PM  
Remember the good old days when not being able to spell potato or merely giving an excited yell at a rally caused people to think you were unqualified for office?

Nowadays you have people looking at the complete inhuman failings of Turnip and go "...may...be we can give him another chance."
 
2021-06-20 1:59:08 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it


In 2016 he had the benefit of having no record of public service. By 2020 that was no longer true. The people who had been told that Trump would put everyone except white men in concentration camps saw those hysterical predictions hadn't come true, but the "economically anxious" white men who put him in power saw that his promised benefits hadn't materialized. Black men (+6), black women (+5), hispanic men (+4), hispanic women (+5), white women (+3), Asians and people of other ethnicities (+7) -- Trump gained ground with all of these demographics in 2020 compared to 2016. But Trump lost one percentage point among white men and distributed in the correct states this more than counteracted his gains with other groups.

So in addition to his other mistakes he made the core mistake of taking his base for granted. Ironically you could say he made the mistake that Hillary Clinton did, thinking he could win without doing anything for working class white men because they didn't matter or they had no option other than voting for him.
 
2021-06-20 2:00:28 PM  
It's the one thing he's successful at: mobilizing people to vote against him.
 
2021-06-20 2:01:02 PM  
The watermarks on my ballot said not to vote for Trump, and the bamboo fibers clinched it.
 
2021-06-20 2:02:07 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Is it because he was too crazy for them, or not crazy enough?



You already know what the answer is.  There is no depth to which Republican insanity will not plunge.
 
2021-06-20 2:06:27 PM  

JAYoung: So, if I'm reading this correctly, the entire Republican party (with the exceptions of Romney and Cheney) is kowtowing to a guy who will cost them votes in the next election.


That was my takeaway, too. Rallying around a man who lost an election by peeling away party support because he's so utterly repellent seems like a losing strategy.

Then again, they don't intend to win this next election--try intend to take it by force, and so far the Democrats have done terrifying little to try to stop them.
 
2021-06-20 2:07:17 PM  
I really need someone to explain to me how 21,679 democrats voted for democratic candidates down-ballot, looked at how Trump's Covid response killed hundreds of thousands, and said to themselves, "Wow, I like that!  I'm gonna vote for Turmp!"
 
2021-06-20 2:08:12 PM  

Lost_in_Korea: I really need someone to explain to me how 21,679 democrats voted for democratic candidates down-ballot, looked at how Trump's Covid response killed hundreds of thousands, and said to themselves, "Wow, I like that!  I'm gonna vote for Turmp!"


Racism.
 
2021-06-20 2:10:15 PM  
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2021-06-20 2:10:39 PM  

BizarreMan: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.


Yup. Covid should have made it an easy win for him but he was too stupid and stubborn to take advantage of it.
 
2021-06-20 2:11:40 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it


Trump is such a douche that he didn't kick in the womb as a fetus. He deliberately poked at the nerve endings in the uterus wall.
 
2021-06-20 2:18:24 PM  
When you are running against the incumbent, you run on the incumbent's record.   When you are the incumbent, you still have to run on the incumbent's record.

Which is why he won in 2016 and lost in 2020.
 
2021-06-20 2:18:46 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it


I hear this theory all the time and I can't agree with it.  The inability or refusal to change is part of what drives the conservative psyche.  Steering even slightly towards the middle would not help him.


He didn't have to go to the middle. He could have just gone full(er) "china virus" but then frame the response as America standing up to a foreign threat, look like he was doing something other than denying reality, shrug off any failure of those actions into a ID4 "we will prevail" speech, and ride that to victory in 2020.
 
2021-06-20 2:23:28 PM  
Did they count the ballots from Montana yet?
 
2021-06-20 2:24:12 PM  
Yeah, it's almost as if being a royal prick to the First Family of Arizona cost Trump the state.

Maybe he shouldn't have done that.
 
2021-06-20 2:30:37 PM  

Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it


He won in 2016 by being a douche because he was an outsider. But in 2020 he was The Man. A (much) better man than Trump would have gradually started pivoting to a facade of a responsible father figure immediately on winning the election.

For obvious example, if Trump had gotten behind mask wearing and other preventative measures, had personally ramrodded the roll-out of the vaccine, and had used his bully pulpit to demand that everyone take the goddamned vaccine. we probably would have gotten through this pandemic with under 100,000, or even 50,000 fatalities. Trump would easily have swept 2020. He would have been more popular than FDR. Hell, there would probably have been bipartisan support to abolish the 22nd amendment and give him two more terms after 2020.

It is not often that a President is handed a deadly national emergency. Trump could have been one of our greatest Presidents. Except that he was... Trump.
 
2021-06-20 2:33:17 PM  

omg bbq: mrshowrules: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

He would have won simply for not dumping on McCain every chance he got.

Right? What was even the point? It's not like that GOT him any voters.


AZ is weird the GOP keeps thinking moderates are costing them election so they keep running nuts. When they lose they think we need to be worse.
 
2021-06-20 2:33:17 PM  

foo monkey: Well somebody had to vote for him, or the machines wouldn't have had any votes to switch to Biden.


Excellent doublethink reference. Please report to Room 101 for your reward.
 
2021-06-20 2:38:14 PM  

natazha: And if trump hadn't kept banging on voter fraud, the GQP wouldn't have lost both Georgia Senate seats.  I've seen estimates as high as 200,000 Republicans didn't vote in the special election.

On the other hand, it may have been the best thing he's ever done for the Country.


It may have been, but he will one day do something even greater for this country.

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2021-06-20 2:40:48 PM  

not enough beer: omg bbq: mrshowrules: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

He would have won simply for not dumping on McCain every chance he got.

Right? What was even the point? It's not like that GOT him any voters.

AZ is weird the GOP keeps thinking moderates are costing them election so they keep running nuts. When they lose they think we need to be worse.


Weird how this is something both parties do wrong. "We lost this election--that means we need to move more to the right!"
 
2021-06-20 2:42:32 PM  

JAYoung: So, if I'm reading this correctly, the entire Republican party (with the exceptions of Romney and Cheney) is kowtowing to a guy who will cost them votes in the next election.


Romney and Cheney may be the only two Republicans of consequence who don't have kompromat on them. Remember that July 4th Moscow junket? Remember that lady spy connected with the NRA?
 
2021-06-20 2:44:50 PM  

sotua: Snatch Bandergrip: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it


I hear this theory all the time and I can't agree with it.  The inability or refusal to change is part of what drives the conservative psyche.  Steering even slightly towards the middle would not help him.

He didn't have to go to the middle. He could have just gone full(er) "china virus" but then frame the response as America standing up to a foreign threat, look like he was doing something other than denying reality, shrug off any failure of those actions into a ID4 "we will prevail" speech, and ride that to victory in 2020.


That's fair. However it's easy for me to imagine republicans rejecting even that, given their hard on for seeing Americans die.
 
2021-06-20 2:48:21 PM  

Biscuit Tin: BizarreMan: Officer Barrelroll: Trump easily could have won another term if he wasn't a massive douche.

/difficulty: Trump won in 2016 partly because he was a massive douche
//if the dude had even the slightest ability to change and adapt, he could have run away with it

All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.

He believes he has the ability to control reality with his thoughts and words. I think one of the reasons his response to the pandemic was so poor is that he believed saying, "One day soon it will go away, like a miracle" was the same as doing something. On account of he's nuts.


And remember, his temperament is his single greatest asset.

/And the crowd applauded when he told them that.
 
2021-06-20 2:48:39 PM  

Karma Chameleon: Is it because he was too crazy for them, or not crazy enough?


Too crazy for Boy's Town, too much of a boy for Crazy Town!
 
2021-06-20 2:55:51 PM  
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2021-06-20 3:01:16 PM  
Reminder:  Trump lost the election by just 44,000 total votes in three states.  The election was a razor-thin win for Biden.

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/9406890​86/narrow-wins-in-these-key-states-pow​ered-biden-to-the-presidency
 
2021-06-20 3:01:41 PM  

BizarreMan: All he really had to do was not jack up the federal Covid response and he most likely would have won.  But he was incapable of doing that because he couldn't see a short or long term benefit to himself.


Yes. Even though the benefits of not screwing it up were obvious, Trump's hypershort attention span and teeny, tiny intelligence led him into snakeoil cures, light and bleach therapy, and the non-existence of the disease and the deaths of half a million Americans.
 
2021-06-20 3:05:31 PM  

Harlee: foo monkey: Well somebody had to vote for him, or the machines wouldn't have had any votes to switch to Biden.

Excellent doublethink reference. Please report to Room 101 for your reward.


Double plus good. Keep up.
 
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