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(Daily Express)   George RR Martin announces latest book release date ... for not "Winds of Winter" (possible nsfw content on page)   (express.co.uk) divider line
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2021-06-20 12:00:12 AM  
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2021-06-20 12:02:11 AM  
Blame global warming
 
2021-06-20 12:11:03 AM  
I hate to be so dire. But he doesn't strike me as being a health nut, and I think there's a fair chance he drops dead before he finishes that book.
 
2021-06-20 12:20:24 AM  

PlanckSnail: I hate to be so dire. But he doesn't strike me as being a health nut, and I think there's a fair chance he drops dead before he finishes that book.


That was years ago. Now it's a miracle he hasn't yet.
 
2021-06-20 12:26:00 AM  
Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher
 
2021-06-20 12:46:40 AM  

Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher


I figured he just hangs out where whores go
 
2021-06-20 12:51:54 AM  
Never been a Game of Thrones fan. Tried to get into the series at the height of when I was into fantasy and just didn't care for it. Wheel of Time was my jam. So, been waiting for the inevitable to happen with more than a little dark humor.
 
2021-06-20 1:04:08 AM  

leeksfromchichis: Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher

I figured he just hangs out where whores go


Where do whores go?
 
2021-06-20 1:09:53 AM  
A Song of Ice and Fire series sucks ass, and people need to stop giving a shiat if he finishes the damn series. If he does, it'll be the Duke Nukem Forever of novels.
 
2021-06-20 1:14:56 AM  

Summoner101: leeksfromchichis: Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher

I figured he just hangs out where whores go

Where do whores go?


Wherever it is, grrm won't tell us cuz then we could find him.
 
2021-06-20 1:36:22 AM  
Yeah, I've read them all, liked them reasonably well, watched the series...  and I couldn't give a shart if he finishes it or not.  I've moved on, I think most have.
 
2021-06-20 1:37:14 AM  

Summoner101: leeksfromchichis: Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher

I figured he just hangs out where whores go

Where do whores go?


Azerbaijan, apparently.

Puta, Azerbaijan

/they even have Puta Base
//no joke
///well, I'm sure there are a lot of jokes, but it exists
 
2021-06-20 1:39:23 AM  

PlanckSnail: doesn't strike me as being a health nut, and I think there's a fair chance he dr


He could live to 200 and he wouldn't finish it.
 
2021-06-20 3:45:42 AM  
I bet he finished the series years ago and is just farking with us.
 
2021-06-20 5:31:55 AM  

Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher


A better editor than short story writer.
A better short story writer than novelist.
 
2021-06-20 8:13:29 AM  

Wobambo: Never been a Game of Thrones fan. Tried to get into the series at the height of when I was into fantasy and just didn't care for it. Wheel of Time was my jam. So, been waiting for the inevitable to happen with more than a little dark humor.


Having read (what there is of), and enjoyed, both, I can understand saying you like the story of WoT more, but SoIaF is better written.

The characters are far deeper, the world more fully fleshed out, and, amazingly, has fewer filler plotlines.
 
2021-06-20 8:15:08 AM  
He finished the books years ago and they will be released posthumously. That's my bet anyway.
 
2021-06-20 8:47:58 AM  
Martin's next work will be released in January.
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2021-06-20 8:49:49 AM  

anuran: Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher

A better editor than short story writer.
A better short story writer than novelist.


His best work is still Sandkings.
 
2021-06-20 9:43:15 AM  

nmrsnr: Wobambo: Never been a Game of Thrones fan. Tried to get into the series at the height of when I was into fantasy and just didn't care for it. Wheel of Time was my jam. So, been waiting for the inevitable to happen with more than a little dark humor.

Having read (what there is of), and enjoyed, both, I can understand saying you like the story of WoT more, but SoIaF is better written.

The characters are far deeper, the world more fully fleshed out, and, amazingly, has fewer filler plotlines.


Robert Jordans female characters are like they are written by a 12 year old who thinks girls have cooties.

The best Amazon review of his middle books hits the nail on the head:

"Those who can appreciate great setup will really love this book. Personally, I thought the setup in books 8 and 9 were good ... but this was absolutely stupendous. Fans of total plot inertia will be in heaven.

I've grown to hate the character of Rand because whenever he makes an appearance the plot is in danger of moving incrementally forward. Thankfully, Mr. Jordan saves us from any threatening plot developments by keeping Rand almost totally absent from this book. And when he is introduced - briefly - towards the very end, Mr. Jordan quickly whisks him off to the sidelines before anything interesting can happen. Whew! I'm wiping the sweat off my brow becasue that was a close one.

Have you ever wondered how many stripes should be on the dublet of an important dignatary from Illian? How many shawl twitches are appropriate when Aes Sedai negotiate momentous agreements? What kind of stool the general of an Aes Sedai army sits on, and how stable said stool might be? Well buckle up for a wild ride, amigo, because you're going to learn all that (and more!) by the time you've tediously slogged to the conclusion of this book.

Part of what really makes Mr. Jordan's worlds so unique are the wonderful characters which populate them. I like nothing more than to scratch my head in befuddlement as yet another Aes Sedai is reintroduced into the plot whom I can no longer recall. It gives me an excuse to page to the back of the book and open up the 'Robert Jordan Appendix of Useless and Irrelevent Characters' which is always such a joy. I've created my own drinking game based on this called, [...]
For anyone who wants to play along the rules are simple:

1.) Is the character you're looking up totally irrelevent? Take a drink.
2.) Do you have reason to suspect said character will remain totally irrelevent? Take a drink.
3.) Does the character twitch her shawl? Take two drinks.
4.) Is she looking "cross-eyed" at someone? Take a drink.
5.) Do you know the exact design of the embroidery on the fringe of her shawl? Of course you do - take a drink. For your own sanity, consider taking another.

Anyhow, I don't want to pretend everything about this book is negative ... there are a few positives.

First off, Nynaeve is completely ignored. I suspect Mr. Jordan will make up for this oversite by indulging in an orgy of braid-tugging, yellow-shawled action in books 11-16, but you will be blessedly free of it in this tome.

Secondly, Jordan has stopped even pretending to provide "setup" for future books with CoT. Nothing Of Any Signifigance happens - at all - in this novel. Nothing. There's not so much as a cliffhanger. He's no longer bothering to maintain any facade. I appreciate that kind of bold honesty. He's just holding out his hand and saying, "Listen suckers ... we all know you're going to give me your money - so just hand it over. I could personally visit each of your homes and beat it out of you, but isn't this more civilized?". And, yes, I suppose it is more civilized. So I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Mr. Jordan for allowing me to voluntarily hand him my hard-earned money rather than forcing him to pummel it out of me in my own house. It is very much appreciated.

I can't wait for Volume 11.
 
2021-06-20 10:33:03 AM  

PlanckSnail: I hate to be so dire. But he doesn't strike me as being a health nut, and I think there's a fair chance he drops dead before he finishes that book.


He already damn near died about a decade ago. He got a UTI and spent a month in the hospital when I guess it got into his bloodstream. The books are never going to be finished. He just doesn't have the fire in him to do it anymore. I accepted it and moved on years ago.
 
2021-06-20 11:10:19 AM  

whosits_112: A Song of Ice and Fire series sucks ass, and people need to stop giving a shiat if he finishes the damn series. If he does, it'll be the Duke Nukem Forever of novels.


The first 3 books were quite good, before he apparently fired his editor and wrote himself into many corners. Fans should come to terms with the fact that the next book is not going to come out, at least not in George RR Martin's lifetime.
 
2021-06-20 11:10:39 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah, I've read them all, liked them reasonably well, watched the series...  and I couldn't give a shart if he finishes it or not.  I've moved on, I think most have.


Yeah I cancelled my preorder for the "next book" in what, 2015 or 2016?  A million years ago now, before I knew that Charles Stross existed.
 
2021-06-20 1:10:08 PM  
All questions directed to him should revolve around who he thinks should finish the book after he dies. Popcorn stocks would skyrocket.
 
2021-06-20 1:27:20 PM  

whosits_112: A Song of Ice and Fire series sucks ass, and people need to stop giving a shiat if he finishes the damn series. If he does, it'll be the Duke Nukem Forever of novels.


Hard to believe how fresh it was in 96 though. We had an ARC at the library and that book was about worn out before the offical pub date.
 
2021-06-20 1:36:55 PM  

nmrsnr: Wobambo: Never been a Game of Thrones fan. Tried to get into the series at the height of when I was into fantasy and just didn't care for it. Wheel of Time was my jam. So, been waiting for the inevitable to happen with more than a little dark humor.

Having read (what there is of), and enjoyed, both, I can understand saying you like the story of WoT more, but SoIaF is better written.

The characters are far deeper, the world more fully fleshed out, and, amazingly, has fewer filler plotlines.


I'm sure it would be more appealing if I were to try it now at 40 rather than the 16-17 I was when I picked it up. Having seen a good part of the show and knowing how it ended, I'll just take your word for it. The uber dark, kinda-sorta torture and rape porn it got up to is enough for me to pass. I go to entertainment for fun escapism and Game of Thrones was pretty much the opposite of that for me.
 
2021-06-20 1:42:09 PM  

Dave The Slushy: He finished the books years ago and they will be released posthumously. That's my bet anyway.


Does he have his own Christopher Tolkien?
 
2021-06-20 3:18:33 PM  

whither_apophis: Dave The Slushy: He finished the books years ago and they will be released posthumously. That's my bet anyway.

Does he have his own Christopher Tolkien?


Kinda.  He has bible keepers and such that probably know more about the milieu etc. than he does.  It's long since grown past where even he can keep it straight offhand.
 
2021-06-20 3:26:03 PM  
Give up, people. He's never going to finish it. He doesn't have to, the show told the story and he's going to ride the royalty money to his grave.
 
2021-06-20 4:37:31 PM  
His heirs could alway  give it to Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson to f*ck up finish.
 
2021-06-20 4:51:27 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: anuran: Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher

A better editor than short story writer.
A better short story writer than novelist.

His best work is still Sandkings.


Absolutely. No doubt about it.
 
2021-06-20 8:19:46 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: anuran: Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher

A better editor than short story writer.
A better short story writer than novelist.

His best work is still Sandkings.


Martin and Stephen King both peaked early.

Sandkings and Carrie.

Both were very tight stories, well told.

So were they better writers back then, or were their editors just not afraid to edit their works before they got famous?
 
2021-06-20 8:21:30 PM  

Trik: His heirs could alway  give it to Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson to f*ck up finish.


Hot Pie was the kwisatz haderach all along.
 
2021-06-20 9:57:45 PM  

Trik: His heirs could alway  give it to Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson to f*ck up finish.


White walkers?  You mean super seawalkers!
 
2021-06-20 9:59:44 PM  

BullBearMS: Tyrone Slothrop: anuran: Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher

A better editor than short story writer.
A better short story writer than novelist.

His best work is still Sandkings.

Martin and Stephen King both peaked early.

Sandkings and Carrie.

Both were very tight stories, well told.

So were they better writers back then, or were their editors just not afraid to edit their works before they got famous?


I honestly think both of their short story collections bear the main work.  Stephen King can't write an ending to an epic (stand and dark tower) and grrm appears to be the same.

Then again after watching horrible endings like Battlestar Galactica or Dexter maybe it's just hard to end a thing.
 
2021-06-20 10:15:49 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Martin's next work will be released in January.
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Dark Souls 4 is gonna be lit...
 
2021-06-20 10:54:45 PM  

BullBearMS: Tyrone Slothrop: anuran: Summoner101: Martin's writing is about as useful as a breastplate stretcher

A better editor than short story writer.
A better short story writer than novelist.

His best work is still Sandkings.

Martin and Stephen King both peaked early.

Sandkings and Carrie.

Both were very tight stories, well told.

So were they better writers back then, or were their editors just not afraid to edit their works before they got famous?


When an author gets Really Big and stops getting edited the results are never pretty. Martin. King. Heinlein. Rice.
 
2021-06-20 11:59:49 PM  
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2021-06-21 2:47:29 AM  
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2021-06-21 3:51:06 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: whither_apophis: Dave The Slushy: He finished the books years ago and they will be released posthumously. That's my bet anyway.

Does he have his own Christopher Tolkien?

Kinda.  He has bible keepers and such that probably know more about the milieu etc. than he does.  It's long since grown past where even he can keep it straight offhand.


Someone was saying in the last Martin thread, they have orders to burn his notes if he dies so it can not be finished by anyone else. No Citation
 
2021-06-21 5:39:16 AM  

Candygram for Mongo: I bet he finished the series years ago and is just farking with us.


More likely, the ending of the book series is exactly like the ending of the show, and Bennioff and Weiss followed Martin's instructions to the letter. Since the ending of the show and fans got all twitchy and butthurt, Martin scrapped his manuscripts and is going to ride the "Will he, won't he?" hype until he shuffles off the coil.
 
2021-06-21 7:54:37 AM  
Already long done and purposely to be published post humously, I'm sure.  On the (false) theory that nobody can yell at a dead man.
 
2021-06-21 8:53:23 AM  

ReaverZ: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: whither_apophis: Dave The Slushy: He finished the books years ago and they will be released posthumously. That's my bet anyway.

Does he have his own Christopher Tolkien?

Kinda.  He has bible keepers and such that probably know more about the milieu etc. than he does.  It's long since grown past where even he can keep it straight offhand.

Someone was saying in the last Martin thread, they have orders to burn his notes if he dies so it can not be finished by anyone else. No Citation


And Prince requested that none of his music in the vault would get released.  Being dead put a stop to that.
 
2021-06-21 10:41:31 AM  

stoli n coke: More likely, the ending of the book series is exactly like the ending of the show, and Bennioff and Weiss followed Martin's instructions to the letter.


They've said for years that Martin outlined the main story milestones for them, straight through to the ending, so while the details of getting from A to B to C to D may have changed in the adaptation, yes, the big picture of the ending is Martin's. Those ABCD milestones are still what they hit.

If people had a problem with the events of the ending rather than, say, the pacing of the last season, then the book Alternate Universe Martin eventually finishes won't satisfy them. It ended how he intended.

Not that we have to worry about that here in the real universe. Martin is never finishing the series. That was clear 15 years ago, before the show even started.
 
2021-06-21 11:05:44 AM  

shoegaze99: If people had a problem with the events of the ending rather than, say, the pacing of the last season, then the book Alternate Universe Martin eventually finishes won't satisfy them. It ended how he intended.


I'm sure the book had her going crazy and nuking everything too, it probably just didn't have her switch from hero to my lai massacre quite as abruptly.
 
2021-06-21 12:06:50 PM  

mjbok: ReaverZ: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: whither_apophis: Dave The Slushy: He finished the books years ago and they will be released posthumously. That's my bet anyway.

Does he have his own Christopher Tolkien?

Kinda.  He has bible keepers and such that probably know more about the milieu etc. than he does.  It's long since grown past where even he can keep it straight offhand.

Someone was saying in the last Martin thread, they have orders to burn his notes if he dies so it can not be finished by anyone else. No Citation

And Prince requested that none of his music in the vault would get released.  Being dead put a stop to that.


It'd sorta depend on whether or not it's down on paper as part of the will.  If so, they'd have a hell of a time not following it.  If not, then yeah it's worth the paper it's not printed on.
 
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