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2021-06-18 9:28:02 PM  
So you skipped active voters this time, Raffensperger?
 
2021-06-18 11:58:24 PM  
From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?
 
2021-06-19 1:46:25 AM  
Guess it's time for a voter drive then.
 
2021-06-19 2:12:19 AM  

labman: From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?


Given that Raffensperger has proven himself to be a corrupt piece of shiat (see: how he came into power, by overseeing the election he was running in and benefiting from a shiatload of extremely shady shiat regarding voting machines), there is absolutely no reason to take him or his party at their word.

The whole United States, and the red states in particular, need international observers for our elections.
 
2021-06-19 2:14:52 AM  

LordJiro: labman: From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?

Given that Raffensperger has proven himself to be a corrupt piece of shiat (see: how he came into power, by overseeing the election he was running in and benefiting from a shiatload of extremely shady shiat regarding voting machines), there is absolutely no reason to take him or his party at their word.

The whole United States, and the red states in particular, need international observers for our elections.


I thought that was Kemp.
 
2021-06-19 2:15:05 AM  
Occasionally purging voter rolls is not a bad thing, and right now would be a reasonable time to do so, since this is not an election year, though I am sure there are some local municipal races coming up, since they like to schedule those at a random day, in an off election year, that you only hear about when the voting results come in, and sure enough your local city council won in a landslide among the 32 seniors they personally drove to the polls.  At least that was how City Council elections worked in the Florida Panhandle.
 
2021-06-19 2:15:24 AM  
These effin Republicans won't stop vote suppression unless they are forced to stop.
 
2021-06-19 2:15:30 AM  
They will never stop blaming Abrams for turning Georgia blue will they?
 
2021-06-19 2:16:57 AM  

Generation_D: These effin Republicans won't stop vote suppression unless they are forced to stop.


Alito was technically correct about the fact that the federal oversight clause of the VRA needing to be changed.

It needs to apply to anywhere the GQP is in charge of anything.
 
2021-06-19 2:20:17 AM  
idk just glanced at the article but they said 67k of those came from a list of people who changed their address with the postal service.

if they are people who moved out i'm not sure why this is a problem.
 
2021-06-19 2:22:11 AM  

labman: From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?


29 days before the election so people on the list can't re-register in time.
 
2021-06-19 2:24:56 AM  

hubiestubert: Guess it's time for a voter drive then.


THIS RIGHT HERE

Over two thirds of the voters removed from the rolls in TFA have been removed because they've lodged change of address forms themselves. If they haven't re-enrolled somewhere they're not going to vote. The fact is that voters of all political persuasions sometimes get lazy and don't re-enroll or check their enrollment is up-to-date.

If you want to make a real difference, if you want more political influence than your single vote gives you and you're not made of the sort of money which campaigns plough through in advertising etc, then help organise at the voter drive level. If you can help sign up a couple of hundred voters for your team via organised team efforts and help get them to the polls on the day, you've done as much as the millionaire who makes a five-figure donation to a PAC.

(I haven't fact checked that but it seems likely to me in a world where a lot of election advertising messaging gets lost in the information blitz.)

As the election results in Georgia proved in 2020, organising voter registration and getting the vote out makes ALL the difference. Republicans can pull this "cleansing" stuff but it can be countered by people who get off their couches and lend their spare time to organising campaigns.
 
2021-06-19 2:27:30 AM  
Raffensperger has "made it a priority to continue with the list maintenance process."
 
2021-06-19 2:37:39 AM  
Question? Do you have to reregister if you filed a change of address for in-state? Shouldn't that update rather than purge your registration?
 
2021-06-19 2:47:44 AM  

wademh: Question? Do you have to reregister if you filed a change of address for in-state? Shouldn't that update rather than purge your registration?


You're seriously quibbling like this?

The answer is, "no", and more specifically Georgia Republicans must prevent any person but their own from voting forever or else they might one day be held accountable for their appalling crimes.
 
2021-06-19 2:48:15 AM  

wademh: Question? Do you have to reregister if you filed a change of address for in-state? Shouldn't that update rather than purge your registration?


The post office mover database is not connected to the state voter registration system. This typically means this is a manual match process. Some Name, Sr. are going to find themselves deregistered to vote if the match system is implemented poorly and Name, Jr. has moved out.

The Help America Vote act was supposed to have each state create an intrastate registration system that would track you if you moved and registered to vote in a new location. It would de-register you from your old voting location.
 
2021-06-19 2:57:27 AM  
*Looking at list* Boy there sure are a lot of Jeffersons in Georgia.
 
2021-06-19 3:07:54 AM  
Misch:

The post office mover database is not connected to the state voter registration system. This typically means this is a manual match process. Some Name, Sr. are going to find themselves deregistered to vote if the match system is implemented poorly and Name, Jr. has moved out.


ahah its not poorly implemented, it is working as intended by removing people who have no business being removed.
 
2021-06-19 3:12:43 AM  
Georgia Republicans don't respect the American voter.

Short of nixing the filibuster, we need to leverage our tiebreaking vote in the Senate to break the logjam. Which means that we need to find common ground with the 2 dem holdouts. So hold your nose and politic.

Rough air ahead. We're in for some chop.
 
2021-06-19 3:26:08 AM  

saturn badger: LordJiro: labman: From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?

Given that Raffensperger has proven himself to be a corrupt piece of shiat (see: how he came into power, by overseeing the election he was running in and benefiting from a shiatload of extremely shady shiat regarding voting machines), there is absolutely no reason to take him or his party at their word.

The whole United States, and the red states in particular, need international observers for our elections.

I thought that was Kemp.


it was, I got them confused somehow. My bad. The overall point stands, though; I wouldn't trust any Republican, but especially a Georgia Republican, in regards to a purge of the voter rolls. Or in regards to anything else, really.
 
2021-06-19 3:27:07 AM  
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2021-06-19 3:32:29 AM  
In his statement, Raffensperger took a swipe at voting rights advocate Stacey Abrams, the 2018 Democratic gubernatorial nominee.
"That is why I fought and beat Stacey Abrams in court in 2019 to remove nearly 300,000 obsolete voter files before the November election, and will do so again this year," Raffensperger said.

Raffensperger has for years spoken out against Abrams.


So he'll speak out against someone who, through all the legal tools in her arsenal, is actually striving toward voter enfranchisement (supposedly part of his job), but supplicates for understanding from his supposed comrades who abandoned him and literally threatened his and his family's lives... because he did his job.

Before I had the slightest bit of sympathy for him, but I'll no longer waste that on such a dipshiat
 
2021-06-19 3:51:40 AM  

labman: From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?


Psst: Don't say that, or right-wingers will keep making death threats until he does worse.

This is the worst thing ever! Grrrr ... Us liberals sure feel owned right now.
 
2021-06-19 3:58:09 AM  

saturn badger: LordJiro: labman: From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?

Given that Raffensperger has proven himself to be a corrupt piece of shiat (see: how he came into power, by overseeing the election he was running in and benefiting from a shiatload of extremely shady shiat regarding voting machines), there is absolutely no reason to take him or his party at their word.

The whole United States, and the red states in particular, need international observers for our elections.

I thought that was Kemp.


It was.
 
2021-06-19 4:04:33 AM  

wademh: Question? Do you have to reregister if you filed a change of address for in-state? Shouldn't that update rather than purge your registration?


Aaaand there is the $64000 question.  It should be noted that urban dwellers have a tendency to move  when a better apartment deal comes up.
 
2021-06-19 5:20:43 AM  

LordJiro: saturn badger: LordJiro: labman: From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?

Given that Raffensperger has proven himself to be a corrupt piece of shiat (see: how he came into power, by overseeing the election he was running in and benefiting from a shiatload of extremely shady shiat regarding voting machines), there is absolutely no reason to take him or his party at their word.

The whole United States, and the red states in particular, need international observers for our elections.

I thought that was Kemp.

it was, I got them confused somehow. My bad. The overall point stands, though; I wouldn't trust any Republican, but especially a Georgia Republican, in regards to a purge of the voter rolls. Or in regards to anything else, really.


Oh, I wholeheartedly agree with you. At least Raffensperger did something right. He didn't go along with the plan to find 17k or whatever votes, was censured and received death threats. That has to count for something.
 
2021-06-19 6:26:01 AM  
As a non-american this whole voter registration thing just seems odd. Dated. Arcame? I just get my voting papers automatically in the mail before every election in account of being adult and alive (the IRS knows where your mailbox lives). And if I show up to vote without them, at the polling place or at one if the vote-in-advance places, they'll just print me a new set there and then (ID required but everyone has proper ID here.)
 
2021-06-19 7:24:51 AM  
"ineligible voters"

Constitution says all citizens over 18 are eligible.
 
2021-06-19 7:25:58 AM  
People need to stay on top of their registrations then. There is a pretty low chance that this was even remotely even handed. You can pretty much expect that, much like every other time they'll try to target voters likely to vote Democratic.
 
2021-06-19 8:06:23 AM  

Aussie_As: hubiestubert: Guess it's time for a voter drive then.

THIS RIGHT HERE

Over two thirds of the voters removed from the rolls in TFA have been removed because they've lodged change of address forms themselves. If they haven't re-enrolled somewhere they're not going to vote. The fact is that voters of all political persuasions sometimes get lazy and don't re-enroll or check their enrollment is up-to-date.

If you want to make a real difference, if you want more political influence than your single vote gives you and you're not made of the sort of money which campaigns plough through in advertising etc, then help organise at the voter drive level. If you can help sign up a couple of hundred voters for your team via organised team efforts and help get them to the polls on the day, you've done as much as the millionaire who makes a five-figure donation to a PAC.

(I haven't fact checked that but it seems likely to me in a world where a lot of election advertising messaging gets lost in the information blitz.)

As the election results in Georgia proved in 2020, organising voter registration and getting the vote out makes ALL the difference. Republicans can pull this "cleansing" stuff but it can be countered by people who get off their couches and lend their spare time to organising campaigns.


exactly. if every one of us just got one more voter signed up we would double in size and dwarf any competition.
 
2021-06-19 8:28:52 AM  
The answer is to get people to check their registration status and insist on written confirmation that they are registered. I know that may be difficult for a number of people but you have time to do it.  The democrats must start a non-partisan campaign to do this.
 
2021-06-19 8:29:07 AM  
There are (or were) 7,233,584 registered voters in Georgia.

These assholes just told 1.38% of voters in the state that they can't vote.
 
2021-06-19 8:30:46 AM  
And that was after that asshole removed over 300,000 voter registrations in 2019 (the numbers above are from 2020.)

In short, Georgia GOP is terrified. Even at their worst, they lost last year, and they don't want to lose again.
 
2021-06-19 8:37:41 AM  

Aussie_As: hubiestubert: Guess it's time for a voter drive then.

THIS RIGHT HERE

Over two thirds of the voters removed from the rolls in TFA have been removed because they've lodged change of address forms themselves. If they haven't re-enrolled somewhere they're not going to vote. The fact is that voters of all political persuasions sometimes get lazy and don't re-enroll or check their enrollment is up-to-date.

If you want to make a real difference, if you want more political influence than your single vote gives you and you're not made of the sort of money which campaigns plough through in advertising etc, then help organise at the voter drive level. If you can help sign up a couple of hundred voters for your team via organised team efforts and help get them to the polls on the day, you've done as much as the millionaire who makes a five-figure donation to a PAC.

(I haven't fact checked that but it seems likely to me in a world where a lot of election advertising messaging gets lost in the information blitz.)

As the election results in Georgia proved in 2020, organising voter registration and getting the vote out makes ALL the difference. Republicans can pull this "cleansing" stuff but it can be countered by people who get off their couches and lend their spare time to organising campaigns.


Follow it up with rides to the polls, voter education, etc.

Register, but also go vote!
 
2021-06-19 8:49:33 AM  

Peki: Follow it up with rides to the polls, voter education, etc.

Register, but also go vote!


Rides to registration locations are also helpful. Some years ago, I used to volunteer rides for folks in my area. Getting folks to & from registration locations, and to & from voting locations, is huge - but, and I can't stress this enough, do this for ANYONE who wants to vote.

Voting, as a fundamental right, is itself being attacked here. When it comes to voting, I don't care for whom you want to vote - you have the right to vote, and it's every American's duty to protect that right.
 
2021-06-19 9:00:31 AM  

LordJiro: labman: From what they are saying, this purge doesn't sound as bad as republicans normally are.  Wonder when the other shoe will fall?

Given that Raffensperger has proven himself to be a corrupt piece of shiat (see: how he came into power, by overseeing the election he was running in and benefiting from a shiatload of extremely shady shiat regarding voting machines), there is absolutely no reason to take him or his party at their word.

The whole United States, and the red states in particular, need international observers for our elections.


International observers? At this rate you are going to need a UN peacekeeping force.
 
2021-06-19 9:02:48 AM  
There is no chance that Dems will remain in the "slimmest of majorities" what with the GQP voter suppression, gerrymandering, and vote rigging. Even if the GQP was to lose they will steal the election. Thoughts and prayers ain't gonna cut it...
 
2021-06-19 9:07:30 AM  

FormlessOne: And that was after that asshole removed over 300,000 voter registrations in 2019 (the numbers above are from 2020.)

In short, Georgia GOP is terrified. Even at their worst, they lost last year, and they don't want to lose again.


From what I recall, federal law doesn't allow purges of people who have voted in the past 2 federal elections.

So unless I am reading this wrong, this will only purge people who didn't vote in 2020, one of the highest turnout elections ever, & 2018.

This is still terrible but it won't have the impact the GOP hopes.
 
2021-06-19 9:13:15 AM  
Only solution is a national voter registration program.
 
2021-06-19 9:26:57 AM  

bluewave69: idk just glanced at the article but they said 67k of those came from a list of people who changed their address with the postal service.

if they are people who moved out i'm not sure why this is a problem.


It's a problem because in order to counter knee jerk reactions by the right, the left has adopted knee jerk reactionaryism.

You can't fight monsters unless you become a monster yourself.
---Abraham Lincoln
 
2021-06-19 9:28:42 AM  
Using Post Office address change forms is ridiculous without further verification. What USPS is doing - what their forms and systems are designed for - is just not compatible  with voter registration. Using that as a starting point for more investigation is reasonable, but just grabbing it and saying it's sufficient is nonsense.  It's simply not fit for purpose.
 
2021-06-19 9:30:48 AM  

Aussie_As: hubiestubert: Guess it's time for a voter drive then.

THIS RIGHT HERE

Over two thirds of the voters removed from the rolls in TFA have been removed because they've lodged change of address forms themselves. If they haven't re-enrolled somewhere they're not going to vote. The fact is that voters of all political persuasions sometimes get lazy and don't re-enroll or check their enrollment is up-to-date.

If you want to make a real difference, if you want more political influence than your single vote gives you and you're not made of the sort of money which campaigns plough through in advertising etc, then help organise at the voter drive level. If you can help sign up a couple of hundred voters for your team via organised team efforts and help get them to the polls on the day, you've done as much as the millionaire who makes a five-figure donation to a PAC.

(I haven't fact checked that but it seems likely to me in a world where a lot of election advertising messaging gets lost in the information blitz.)

As the election results in Georgia proved in 2020, organising voter registration and getting the vote out makes ALL the difference. Republicans can pull this "cleansing" stuff but it can be countered by people who get off their couches and lend their spare time to organising campaigns.


Because encouraging those too disinterested or lazy to register can only bring us the finest in elected officials.
 
2021-06-19 9:30:59 AM  
From highest office to the humblest voter, conservatives are filth.
 
2021-06-19 9:32:41 AM  

Sexy Jesus: Aussie_As: hubiestubert: Guess it's time for a voter drive then.

THIS RIGHT HERE

Over two thirds of the voters removed from the rolls in TFA have been removed because they've lodged change of address forms themselves. If they haven't re-enrolled somewhere they're not going to vote. The fact is that voters of all political persuasions sometimes get lazy and don't re-enroll or check their enrollment is up-to-date.

If you want to make a real difference, if you want more political influence than your single vote gives you and you're not made of the sort of money which campaigns plough through in advertising etc, then help organise at the voter drive level. If you can help sign up a couple of hundred voters for your team via organised team efforts and help get them to the polls on the day, you've done as much as the millionaire who makes a five-figure donation to a PAC.

(I haven't fact checked that but it seems likely to me in a world where a lot of election advertising messaging gets lost in the information blitz.)

As the election results in Georgia proved in 2020, organising voter registration and getting the vote out makes ALL the difference. Republicans can pull this "cleansing" stuff but it can be countered by people who get off their couches and lend their spare time to organising campaigns.

Because encouraging those too disinterested or lazy to register can only bring us the finest in elected officials.


Make all the exuses you want but the fact is conservatives are anti-American coonts.  But you know that first hand I suppose.
 
2021-06-19 9:35:56 AM  

Generation_D: These effin Republicans won't stop vote suppression unless they are forced to stop.


Nice way to show how you DRTFA.
 
2021-06-19 9:38:35 AM  
This appeared on the news this morning.  Apparently, they're purging people whose mail has been returned (about 34,000) and many who have moved but not re-registered (67,000) and those listed on the death registry (18,000).

This article includes a downloadable Excel spreadsheet of the people who are being purged.
 
2021-06-19 9:44:57 AM  

Parrahs: As a non-american this whole voter registration thing just seems odd. Dated. Arcame? I just get my voting papers automatically in the mail before every election in account of being adult and alive (the IRS knows where your mailbox lives). And if I show up to vote without them, at the polling place or at one if the vote-in-advance places, they'll just print me a new set there and then (ID required but everyone has proper ID here.)


But your government wants you to vote. Republican governments don't. It is really that simple. We could easily have a similar system, but it would go against the stated Republican goal (see video) of having lower turnout voter elections. Just like we could have the IRS do most people's taxes for them. But we don't because tax preparation companies want people to use their services.


Paul Weyrich - "I don't want everybody to vote" (Goo Goo)
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Paul Weyrich is one of the fathers of the current Republican party. His greasy, corrupt fingerprints are all over the modern Republican party.

...American religious conservative political activist and commentator, most notable as a figurehead of the New Right. He co-founded the conservative think tanks The Heritage Foundation,[5] the Free Congress Foundation, and the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). He coined the term "moral majority," the name of the political action group Moral Majority that he co-founded in 1979 with Jerry Falwell.
 
2021-06-19 10:11:43 AM  

hubiestubert: Guess it's time for a voter drive then.


I'm certain Stacy Abrams will keep the voter drive going right up to the next election and beyond as necessary.
 
2021-06-19 10:18:34 AM  

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So once again, it's up to Black people to fix white people's nonsense? Sounds about right.
 
2021-06-19 11:00:16 AM  
I can understand removing the voters where their address has changed or the mail was returned to sender, but this is the one that gets on my nerves:

and 276 that had no-contact with elections officials for at least five years," the statement said. "In each of these cases, the individual had no contact with Georgia's elections officials in any way - either directly or through the Department of Driver Services - for two general elections."

Nowhere in the US Constitution does it say you only have the right to vote if you have contact with election officials within 5 years. Sometimes people don't vote, it's not mandatory, and they shouldn't have their right to vote taken away just becuase they skipped voting in two general elections.
 
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