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2021-06-18 3:32:26 PM  
Sexually active gay men need not apply.
 
2021-06-18 4:36:20 PM  
"We have blood at home"

- Your Moms
 
2021-06-18 4:37:08 PM  
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2021-06-18 4:41:49 PM  
I'm off to the blood bank to give ALL of my blood. Dad always told me that whatever I do, I should do 100%.
 
2021-06-18 4:42:04 PM  
Blood - it's in me to live
 
2021-06-18 4:42:20 PM  
I used to be a fairly regular blood donor (a few times a year) until I had to go on anticoagulants. I wish I could still give. (Although, as an A+, my blood isn't in the highest demand.)
 
2021-06-18 4:43:32 PM  

Walker: Sexually active gay men need not apply.


Not sure if it's still the case, but a good friend of mine hasn't been able to donate for over 20 years because he happened to be in the UK for a while in the early 90s (mad cow).
 
2021-06-18 4:44:47 PM  
They actually called my phone yesterday. They email me constantly, but this is the first time I've actually gotten a phone call. Apparently their record management sucks because I'm not eligible yet.
 
2021-06-18 4:45:46 PM  
No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.
 
2021-06-18 4:48:03 PM  
Exactly how subby?

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2021-06-18 4:48:56 PM  

austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.


The "they" in this case is the government and not the Red Cross.
 
2021-06-18 4:52:03 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Exactly how subby?

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Monica Bellucci...


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2021-06-18 4:55:47 PM  
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/that's why they keep calling me
//double reds in March
///please donate
 
2021-06-18 4:55:53 PM  
Oh I should donate again.   I'm O Negative.

The last time I did, it took three bags to get one they could keep.  The first one, the guy couldn't find a vein and had to dispose of the bag.   On the second try he got the bag full and then dropped it on the floor.   Apparently at the time, there was enough of a shortage that they asked me to give another pint/bag.   I said yes and the third time was the charm.   Except the guy who had been taking my blood was so embarrassed he got someone else to do it.  I also told them that after this it might be awhile before I give more...and..thanks for the candy bar.
 
2021-06-18 5:01:04 PM  
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2021-06-18 5:01:15 PM  
If you've had anthrax GTFO.
 
2021-06-18 5:06:52 PM  
I used to donate with the Red Cross but their scheduling sucks. Donation sites were either 1) over 30 miles away 2) were only open during work hours during the week 3) full or 4) several weeks away.

Wife and I found a donation time during BlizzCon in Grapevine TX a couple of years ago, but we had to actually register for the convention on-site before we could donate. It was a pain in the ass and we haven't donated to Red Cross since.

We now donate to Carter Blood Care and they're always available.
 
2021-06-18 5:13:00 PM  

austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.


Please actually check with your local blood banks. Punishing the needy because some asshole that you ran into years ago is not human friendly.
 
2021-06-18 5:19:43 PM  
I've checked with our local blood banks...there aren't any. Its the corrupt Red Cross or nothing.
 
2021-06-18 5:20:27 PM  
LIfesouth is coming to my local Wal-Mart next Saturday.  I'll go to them.
They give you a free shirt and your cholesterol levels.
 
2021-06-18 5:21:44 PM  

nicoffeine: austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.

Please actually check with your local blood banks. Punishing the needy because some asshole that you ran into years ago is not human friendly.


I assume he's referring to the specific policy that gay men can't donate blood because of AIDS (which I think is a law), not any particular Red Cross worker.
 
2021-06-18 5:26:47 PM  
Red Cross is more like a charity than the NRA.  The NRA, however, does also require blood.  Think of the poor CEOs of both.


For the past 11 years, Gail McGovern has served as president and CEO of the American Red Cross, and in 2018, she was paid $694,000, which reflects her leadership of the country's largest humanitarian organization.

LaPierre received a $3.7 million deferred compensation distribution from his "employee funded deferred compensation plan", which was required by federal law, and according to the NRA raised his total annual compensation to $5,110,985
 
2021-06-18 5:28:37 PM  
I've tried to let them but they just toss me back because I'm too small.
 
2021-06-18 5:40:38 PM  

BretMavrik: Walker: Sexually active gay men need not apply.

Not sure if it's still the case, but a good friend of mine hasn't been able to donate for over 20 years because he happened to be in the UK for a while in the early 90s (mad cow).


Yes, this is still the case. My husband lived in the UK for a couple of years in the 80's and still can't give blood.
 
2021-06-18 5:41:28 PM  

Compact Travel Size: I've tried to let them but they just toss me back because I'm too small.


You've met my wife?
 
2021-06-18 5:49:50 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: nicoffeine: austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.

Please actually check with your local blood banks. Punishing the needy because some asshole that you ran into years ago is not human friendly.

I assume he's referring to the specific policy that gay men can't donate blood because of AIDS (which I think is a law), not any particular Red Cross worker.


It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.

This started out from a delightful scandal when the AIDs epidemic was just getting rolling. The Red Cross didn't bother to screen the blood, and Americans started dying of AIDs acquired from transfusions, hemophilia, and so forth. Now, the lawsuits might have gotten expensive, so the Red Cross took all of the potentially infected blood and sold it in Africa, instead. Nice profit! Less litigation!

They weren't going to bother to start testing for HIV/AIDs, of course. That costs money! So, they decided to just ban the gays from donating.

In short, fark the Red Cross. They should have been burned to the ground after the lack of testing and then deliberate reselling of potentially-contaminated blood.
 
2021-06-18 5:51:08 PM  

BitwiseShift: Compact Travel Size: I've tried to let them but they just toss me back because I'm too small.

You've met my wife?


I mean, who hasn't?
 
2021-06-18 5:54:06 PM  
O+ here and apparently I have something that makes my plasma desirable.  Or they are just using psychology to get me to keep donating, making me think my blood is special.  Either way, last time I donated a double red just so they wouldn't start calling me for a longer period of time!  Not sure when I'm eligible again.

My wife use to give blood, but the last time was too traumatic.  They always have a hard time finding her veins number one.  Number two, last time she gave we went to lunch after.  Over an hour after she gave we were leaving the restaurant and she decided that was a good time to take off her wrap.  She started squirting blood all over the place and I had to catch her before she passed out.  I was surprised at just how much blood was coming out!  After that I told her sorry, but never again.
 
2021-06-18 6:07:42 PM  

lizaardvark: Rev. Skarekroe: nicoffeine: austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.

Please actually check with your local blood banks. Punishing the needy because some asshole that you ran into years ago is not human friendly.

I assume he's referring to the specific policy that gay men can't donate blood because of AIDS (which I think is a law), not any particular Red Cross worker.

It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.

This started out from a delightful scandal when the AIDs epidemic was just getting rolling. The Red Cross didn't bother to screen the blood, and Americans started dying of AIDs acquired from transfusions, hemophilia, and so forth. Now, the lawsuits might have gotten expensive, so the Red Cross took all of the potentially infected blood and sold it in Africa, instead. Nice profit! Less litigation!

They weren't going to bother to start testing for HIV/AIDs, of course. That costs money! So, they decided to just ban the gays from donating.

In short, fark the Red Cross. They should have been burned to the ground after the lack of testing and then deliberate reselling of potentially-contaminated blood.


Wait, how could they deliberately distribute contaminated blood if they never knew it was contaminated because they never tested it?
 
2021-06-18 6:13:04 PM  

Walker: Sexually active gay men need not apply.


They REALLY need to get that ridiculous 1980s AIDS-panic leftover out of the rules.  It made a little sense when we didn't know what AIDS was or how to test for it, but these days they test every single donation for AIDS anyway, so the rule just blocks a bunch of potential donors.
 
2021-06-18 6:14:43 PM  

austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.


The Red Cross has to follow FDA regulations for blood donations.  That is where the efforts for change (and scorn) should be applied
 
2021-06-18 6:15:16 PM  

austerity101: austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.

The "they" in this case is the government and not the Red Cross.


Sorry I should have read more, my apologies.
 
2021-06-18 6:18:47 PM  

lizaardvark: It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.


It's a Red Cross policy, but they have that policy because it's an FDA requirement. They have adjusted it a bit, but not in any useful way.  In 2015 it went from "lifetime ban for having sex with another man" to a 12-month deferral.  Then in 2020 it went to a 3-month deferral.

Better, but "don't have sex for three months" is still pretty ridiculous, and still eliminates a huge chunk of potential donors.
 
2021-06-18 6:25:29 PM  

Walker: Sexually active gay men need not apply.


Or if you lived in Europe in the 80s, or have hemochroamatosis, or lots of other things..
 
2021-06-18 6:28:53 PM  

fataldragonfly: BretMavrik: Walker: Sexually active gay men need not apply.

Not sure if it's still the case, but a good friend of mine hasn't been able to donate for over 20 years because he happened to be in the UK for a while in the early 90s (mad cow).

Yes, this is still the case. My husband lived in the UK for a couple of years in the 80's and still can't give blood.


Might wanna double check that. During the pandemic, they started relaxing a lot of the mad cow related restrictions.

But I like the cawk, so I still can't give the blood. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2021-06-18 6:30:56 PM  

Super Chronic: I used to be a fairly regular blood donor (a few times a year) until I had to go on anticoagulants. I wish I could still give. (Although, as an A+, my blood isn't in the highest demand.)


Also A+, but anemic for the last 25 years. Been taking iron every day and just holding the line.  A bit unusual for a guy, so every new doctor has to check because men shouldn't take supplemental iron.  Latest doctor was upset that I wasn't managing my salt intake (high blood pressure), until she saw the blood work.  Sodium and potassium were both one point above the minimum.
 
2021-06-18 6:31:03 PM  

raygundan: lizaardvark: It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.

It's a Red Cross policy, but they have that policy because it's an FDA requirement. They have adjusted it a bit, but not in any useful way.  In 2015 it went from "lifetime ban for having sex with another man" to a 12-month deferral.  Then in 2020 it went to a 3-month deferral.

Better, but "don't have sex for three months" is still pretty ridiculous, and still eliminates a huge chunk of potential donors.


But a straight dude can go to Cowboys and pickup a chick and raw dog her all night long and they can both go donate the next day.
 
2021-06-18 6:36:31 PM  

jclaggett: raygundan: lizaardvark: It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.

It's a Red Cross policy, but they have that policy because it's an FDA requirement. They have adjusted it a bit, but not in any useful way.  In 2015 it went from "lifetime ban for having sex with another man" to a 12-month deferral.  Then in 2020 it went to a 3-month deferral.

Better, but "don't have sex for three months" is still pretty ridiculous, and still eliminates a huge chunk of potential donors.

But a straight dude can go to Cowboys and pickup a chick and raw dog her all night long and they can both go donate the next day.


Exactly.  That's really farked up.
 
2021-06-18 6:43:14 PM  

natazha: Super Chronic: I used to be a fairly regular blood donor (a few times a year) until I had to go on anticoagulants. I wish I could still give. (Although, as an A+, my blood isn't in the highest demand.)

Also A+, but anemic for the last 25 years. Been taking iron every day and just holding the line.  A bit unusual for a guy, so every new doctor has to check because men shouldn't take supplemental iron.  Latest doctor was upset that I wasn't managing my salt intake (high blood pressure), until she saw the blood work.  Sodium and potassium were both one point above the minimum.


I have the opposite. I had such an iron concentration in my blood that they bled a pint a week out of me for a year. Kept me close to anemic, just to get the iron level down.

/ferritin levels off the scale. Literally.
 
2021-06-18 6:45:01 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Exactly how subby?

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2021-06-18 7:04:17 PM  

jclaggett: raygundan: lizaardvark: It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.

It's a Red Cross policy, but they have that policy because it's an FDA requirement. They have adjusted it a bit, but not in any useful way.  In 2015 it went from "lifetime ban for having sex with another man" to a 12-month deferral.  Then in 2020 it went to a 3-month deferral.

Better, but "don't have sex for three months" is still pretty ridiculous, and still eliminates a huge chunk of potential donors.

But a straight dude can go to Cowboys and pickup a chick and raw dog her all night long and they can both go donate the next day.


Yep.  Stupid, stupid, stupid rule leftover from a forty-year-old panic reaction that was trying to avoid a disease we now test every donation for.
 
2021-06-18 7:13:40 PM  

raygundan: jclaggett: raygundan: lizaardvark: It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.

It's a Red Cross policy, but they have that policy because it's an FDA requirement. They have adjusted it a bit, but not in any useful way.  In 2015 it went from "lifetime ban for having sex with another man" to a 12-month deferral.  Then in 2020 it went to a 3-month deferral.

Better, but "don't have sex for three months" is still pretty ridiculous, and still eliminates a huge chunk of potential donors.

But a straight dude can go to Cowboys and pickup a chick and raw dog her all night long and they can both go donate the next day.

Yep.  Stupid, stupid, stupid rule leftover from a forty-year-old panic reaction that was trying to avoid a disease we now test every donation for.


That 40 yr old panic led to a lot of the technology that was employed to combat Covid.
 
2021-06-18 7:22:21 PM  

Azz Pumper: O+ here and apparently I have something that makes my plasma desirable.


O can donate to any letter.
- can donate to + or -.

So O- is the best donor, and O+ is the second best.

A - blood type cannot receive a + donation.

AB can receive any letter.

Any positive blood type can receive positive or negative blood.

I'm a touch drunk so if I brainfarted any of that please correct me, fark.

Tldr: yes, your blood is more valuable for donation.

/Double red 3x per year.
 
2021-06-18 7:46:38 PM  

nicoffeine: austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.

Please actually check with your local blood banks. Punishing the needy because some asshole that you ran into years ago is not human friendly.


No blood bank will take my blood--unless they are not in compliance with FDA regulations, in which case I don't want to give them my blood anyway.
 
2021-06-18 7:47:31 PM  

lizaardvark: Rev. Skarekroe: nicoffeine: austerity101: No they don't, because they're homophobic bastards. A shame, too, since I'm O-negative. So nice that the government would rather people die than treat me like anything other than a second-class citizen.

Please actually check with your local blood banks. Punishing the needy because some asshole that you ran into years ago is not human friendly.

I assume he's referring to the specific policy that gay men can't donate blood because of AIDS (which I think is a law), not any particular Red Cross worker.

It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.

This started out from a delightful scandal when the AIDs epidemic was just getting rolling. The Red Cross didn't bother to screen the blood, and Americans started dying of AIDs acquired from transfusions, hemophilia, and so forth. Now, the lawsuits might have gotten expensive, so the Red Cross took all of the potentially infected blood and sold it in Africa, instead. Nice profit! Less litigation!

They weren't going to bother to start testing for HIV/AIDs, of course. That costs money! So, they decided to just ban the gays from donating.

In short, fark the Red Cross. They should have been burned to the ground after the lack of testing and then deliberate reselling of potentially-contaminated blood.


The Red Cross follows federal regulations. They have spoken out against the gay blood ban, but it's not them who set it.
 
2021-06-18 7:52:05 PM  

jclaggett: raygundan: lizaardvark: It's not a law. It's a policy of the Red Cross. I believe they adjusted it slightly a few years back but, basically, if you're gay, they don't want your blood.

It's a Red Cross policy, but they have that policy because it's an FDA requirement. They have adjusted it a bit, but not in any useful way.  In 2015 it went from "lifetime ban for having sex with another man" to a 12-month deferral.  Then in 2020 it went to a 3-month deferral.

Better, but "don't have sex for three months" is still pretty ridiculous, and still eliminates a huge chunk of potential donors.

But a straight dude can go to Cowboys and pickup a chick and raw dog her all night long and they can both go donate the next day.


Yep, because when straights f*ck each other in the ass, they somehow can't get HIV. But we queers can. Because reasons.
 
2021-06-18 9:56:10 PM  

Super Chronic: I used to be a fairly regular blood donor (a few times a year) until I had to go on anticoagulants. I wish I could still give. (Although, as an A+, my blood isn't in the highest demand.)


Yes it is. It's one of the most common (only O+ is more common). And because of that, the demand is high.

I'm A+/CMV-, so they guilt trip me into giving blood because it's likely to be given to infants.

But fark the Red Cross in its money-grubbing ass. I give to OneBlood, they give me my cholesterol levels...so at least there's that.
 
2021-06-18 10:02:00 PM  

fataldragonfly: BretMavrik: Walker: Sexually active gay men need not apply.

Not sure if it's still the case, but a good friend of mine hasn't been able to donate for over 20 years because he happened to be in the UK for a while in the early 90s (mad cow).

Yes, this is still the case. My husband lived in the UK for a couple of years in the 80's and still can't give blood.


Can confirm. I am AB+ and they used to call me all the time, but then I moved to Germany for about a decade and when I came back they said "thanks, but no thanks."
 
2021-06-18 10:04:33 PM  

Mi-go amigo: fataldragonfly: BretMavrik: Walker: Sexually active gay men need not apply.

Not sure if it's still the case, but a good friend of mine hasn't been able to donate for over 20 years because he happened to be in the UK for a while in the early 90s (mad cow).

Yes, this is still the case. My husband lived in the UK for a couple of years in the 80's and still can't give blood.

Can confirm. I am AB+ and they used to call me all the time, but then I moved to Germany for about a decade and when I came back they said "thanks, but no thanks."


I'm pretty sure I remember a question related to this on a recent questionnaire before donating.
 
2021-06-18 10:07:51 PM  
 
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