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2021-06-18 3:51:44 AM  
I don't refuse, Subby. The Court makes me.
 
2021-06-18 4:24:58 AM  

foo monkey: I don't refuse, Subby. The Court makes me.


Whoa. That post might have gotten away from me. Full apologies. I do not molest children.
 
2021-06-18 4:27:35 AM  
idk that's kinda ඞ sus ඞ
 
2021-06-18 4:36:02 AM  
Well, you had a good run, Glenn Beck. I mean. 1990 was a while ago
 
2021-06-18 4:40:46 AM  
"Medical examiners haven't yet determined his cause and manner of death."

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2021-06-18 4:48:42 AM  
What type of vocational school is providing education to 21 year old autistic students? In Texas disabled students can stay in the public system until 22, but what curriculum or skills are they pursuing after the culmination of the alternate education program? It sounds to me like a form of school jail or possibly young adult daycare. I think those services should be available and subsidized, but not sure this is the best way to go about it.
 
2021-06-18 4:57:03 AM  

OneDayWhat: --- I think those services should be available and subsidized, but not sure this is the best way to go about it.---


A death while in custody would seem to prove my point here.
But I mean more to ask if an institution that provides traditional and alternate education from K-12th grade has the best processes and personnel in place for dealing with adult persons with disabilities who likely are present simply because their families have no access to any other support structure. The requirements of teaching a rowdy class of 1st graders are vastly different than providing vocational or life skills education to learning disadvantaged young adults. Any sort of school wide policy or mandatory faculty training would likely be so broadly generalized as to be nearly useless.
 
2021-06-18 5:04:42 AM  
Suffocating special needs people and covering it up?
They need to be up on charges of impersonating a police officer.
 
2021-06-18 5:20:30 AM  
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You know, he might be faking.
 
2021-06-18 6:18:40 AM  

foo monkey: I don't refuse, Subby. The Court makes me.


Schools are above the law.  If you don't believe me, just ask them.

/And that's going on your permanent record
 
2021-06-18 6:29:57 AM  
"A bystander who recorded the video said a teacher appeared to be sitting on Toni, which is not an approved method of restraint."

This is perhaps the crux and greatest understatement in the article. Amateur tough guys injured a student, didn't see him treated, didn't mention the injury they inflicted, and sent a kid with communications issues home to not be able to tell his parents what happened.

They might as well have just stove in his ribs right there and got it over with.
 
2021-06-18 6:32:13 AM  
"Like January 6th, that's all in the past. We need to move forward."

Right?
 
2021-06-18 7:22:13 AM  
This is how they acted in the 80s special education. I'm mildly surprised not a damn thing has changed. Wow.
 
2021-06-18 7:45:17 AM  
A 21-year-old isn't a "kid." It's not okay that he was fatally restrained, but he was a vulnerable adult, not a kid.

When I was actually a kid (about 16), I used to babysit a nonverbal autistic 13-year-old who was bigger than me. When he was frustrated, which was often, he would wrap his fingers in my hair and yank and yank and yank. I'd be sitting there with tears rolling down my face, trying to pull away from him, and he'd scream at me. The last night I ever babysat, I lost it and just slapped his face. He let go of my hair and scream-cried for two hours, but it was worth it to not be in pain.

I'm not proud of it, but I was also a teenager totally unprepared and untrained for the challenge I was facing with him. I understand what it's like to be at the end of your rope with someone who you are supposed to be caring for, and who is assaulting you. But there's also a reason that the night I slapped him was the last night. If you're resulting to violence like I did, then you need to walk away and not work that job any more.
 
2021-06-18 7:53:42 AM  
At least they didn't shock collar him like some schools.

'member?
 
2021-06-18 8:00:45 AM  

ryant123: At least they didn't shock collar him like some schools.

'member?


Pepperidge Farms remembers....
 
2021-06-18 8:09:59 AM  
I have a close friend who works at a school like this as a behavioral specialist and that's his job, restraining special needs kids.  He has tons of special training.  He gets beat up all the time by kids because there are lines he can't cross.  Comes over with bruises, bite marks, once a broken nose.  And he's a former club bouncer.
 
2021-06-18 8:20:45 AM  
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Yupperz, I will have to think this guy was restrainted.......It wasn't pretty the way it ended either......!!!!
 
2021-06-18 8:34:04 AM  
A kid died in your custody? Go on...
 
2021-06-18 9:14:09 AM  
So, another kid was improperly restrained, and it wasn't reported, and was probably even told by the teacher(s) that THEY were in the wrong.  That way, the kid won't tell the parents, because then they're in trouble at home for doing something wrong.  Sounds very similar to what happens in abusive relationships.  So, if it was improper and not reported, can't the parents then come out and either have the teacher arrested, fired, or at least sued for abuse of a minor?  There ought to be something the parents can do so that it won't happen to more kids.
 
2021-06-18 9:19:10 AM  
Is this another Kamala Harris article?
 
2021-06-18 9:34:38 AM  
I bet wyt people killed the poor kid.
 
2021-06-18 10:56:08 AM  

gonegirl: A 21-year-old isn't a "kid." It's not okay that he was fatally restrained, but he was a vulnerable adult, not a kid.

When I was actually a kid (about 16), I used to babysit a nonverbal autistic 13-year-old who was bigger than me. When he was frustrated, which was often, he would wrap his fingers in my hair and yank and yank and yank. I'd be sitting there with tears rolling down my face, trying to pull away from him, and he'd scream at me. The last night I ever babysat, I lost it and just slapped his face. He let go of my hair and scream-cried for two hours, but it was worth it to not be in pain.

I'm not proud of it, but I was also a teenager totally unprepared and untrained for the challenge I was facing with him. I understand what it's like to be at the end of your rope with someone who you are supposed to be caring for, and who is assaulting you. But there's also a reason that the night I slapped him was the last night. If you're resulting to violence like I did, then you need to walk away and not work that job any more.


My adult son with Autism is 23 years old but mentally is rated at about an 8-year old. He is our ward; he can't get do things on his own by law, like get a driver's license, open a bank account, even vote. In the eyes of the law he is a minor. My guess is these parents have the same setup as it's a pretty common practice to protect your child who looks -and sorta acts - like an adult.

Vocational schools are pretty standard as well for Special Needs people around that age. They are tailored to teach kids job skills instead of academia. We're trying to get our son into something like that again (he did a couple different ones but hasn't clicked with any of them).

I can't will myself to read the article since this is one of our constant nightmares. We work with him all the time to teach him ways to avoid confrontation and to tell us everything, even if we have to have little games of "What are you trying to tell us" especially since autistic people really don't like being questioned. It's one of those things that seems to hit all parts of the spectrum, like not understanding money math.

Luckily the worst we've had is a couple of times he disappeared due to miscommunication and the physical outbursts stopped right after puberty was over (knock wood) but I feel for these parents and for the young victim who probably doesn't understand why he was hurt but will remember it forever.  For example, when my son gets agitated he will perseverate. One of his favorite lines is him angrily saying "do you want to leave?" One day, I finally asked him "what movie did you hear that from" as most of his recitations are movie quotes.  "No dad that was you, remember? We were at the ballet and I was too hot and you said that to me" and I did remember how I was so angry and frustrated with 10-year old him  that I pulled him out of his seat and took him out to the lobby. He got even more upset because he was missing out on the Nutcracker which he loves and being told he was bad for being uncomfortable and of course acted out. It was kind of a rough experience all around. The memory and the realizations that I was the one who was mean to him was so heart-wrenching that I started to cry and he says "it's ok dad, I'm not hot anymore" at which point I cry-laugh-barked, confusing him even more.

So yeah fark this criminal, violent person
 
2021-06-18 11:48:39 AM  
Or that you are listening to your lawyer.
 
2021-06-19 12:26:17 AM  

Palined Parenthood: Well, you had a good run, Glenn Beck. I mean. 1990 was a while ago


FARK that was supposed to be a comma 😢
 
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