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(BBC-US)   Fusion plant to be built by Bezos-backed General Fusion in the UK, will be powered entirely by Amazon stock   (bbc.com) divider line
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2021-06-17 7:14:49 PM  
Bet it meets Deliverables *every bit* as well as Blue Origin does!
 
2021-06-17 7:48:55 PM  
Fusion plant? Like Bela Fleck or Weather Report?
 
2021-06-17 7:50:20 PM  
I heard he wanted to go fission, but the chips let him down.
 
2021-06-17 7:52:24 PM  

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Bet it meets Deliverables *every bit* as well as Blue Origin does!


Someday in the future people will discover his business is AWS (something he didn't invent) and a huge money losing Goliath.
 
2021-06-17 10:21:08 PM  
Pneumatic pistons that work at fusion temperatures... made out of what?
 
2021-06-17 10:31:02 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Pneumatic pistons that work at fusion temperatures... made out of what?


Unobtainium?
 
2021-06-17 10:37:12 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Pneumatic pistons that work at fusion temperatures... made out of what?


Elton John's brass balls?
 
2021-06-17 10:56:58 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Pneumatic pistons that work at fusion temperatures... made out of what?


It's Oxford so I assume commas.
 
2021-06-17 11:21:20 PM  

beezeltown: Fusion plant? Like Bela Fleck or Weather Report?


More like when Miles' band had 14 members and they all just did their own thing.
 
2021-06-17 11:38:18 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Pneumatic pistons that work at fusion temperatures... made out of what?


Looks like the article messed up the device details. The cylinder (actually a sphere) is the liquid metal, which is compressed to create the reaction. The increased temperature metal is then sent to a heat exchanger. The cooled but still liquid metal would then be reformed into a sphere for the next shot. Electric and magnetic fields provide sphere formation and confinement.
 
2021-06-18 12:25:54 AM  
Happen to have an acquaintance who works with these guys. Liquid metal = Lead. A tiny open area in the center of a swirl of molten lead is filled with plasma. The many many pneumatic pistons all hit the outside of the sphere at the same instant causing a shock wave to converge on the centre area crushing it up to the ignition point. Output products like Xrays, heat and neutrons are all absorbed by the lead. The heat in the lead is used to run a standard thermal plant.

Last I knew they were having big problems getting everything to synchronize but that was 5 or so years ago. Seems like they are hammering away at the problem.
 
2021-06-18 12:37:09 AM  
The good news is they expect fusion power to be ready at the same time as teleportation technology, eliminating any concerns about how to supply the required yottawatt level  powers.
 
2021-06-18 4:06:02 AM  
$400M?? You can't even build the non-nuclear parts for that amount.
 
2021-06-18 4:32:02 AM  
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2021-06-18 4:35:11 AM  

dericwater: $400M?? You can't even build the non-nuclear parts for that amount.


I think it's just for the lead
 
2021-06-18 5:24:34 AM  

leeksfromchichis: dericwater: $400M?? You can't even build the non-nuclear parts for that amount.

I think it's just for the lead


They are using the Lockheed Martin budget method.

Determine in secret, the estimated total budget to completion.
Quote 10% of estimate to government.
Prepare standard "unforeseen costs" documents
Profit!
 
2021-06-18 5:40:27 AM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: leeksfromchichis: dericwater: $400M?? You can't even build the non-nuclear parts for that amount.

I think it's just for the lead

They are using the Lockheed Martin budget method.

Determine in secret, the estimated total budget to completion.
Quote 10% of estimate to government.
Prepare standard "unforeseen costs" documents
Profit!


I dunno what the chances of the plant working are, but after seeing the kind of  fuzors they're proposing on GIS... my body is ready.  It's like the hydraulic press channel meets DR Robotnik
 
2021-06-18 10:24:53 AM  

leeksfromchichis: dericwater: $400M?? You can't even build the non-nuclear parts for that amount.

I think it's just for the lead


This is the Amazon Basics model.
 
2021-06-18 10:53:43 AM  

Gene Masseth: leeksfromchichis: dericwater: $400M?? You can't even build the non-nuclear parts for that amount.

I think it's just for the lead

This is the Amazon Basics model.


But will it come with free shipping?
 
2021-06-18 11:14:46 AM  

ExYank: Happen to have an acquaintance who works with these guys. Liquid metal = Lead. A tiny open area in the center of a swirl of molten lead is filled with plasma. The many many pneumatic pistons all hit the outside of the sphere at the same instant causing a shock wave to converge on the centre area crushing it up to the ignition point. Output products like Xrays, heat and neutrons are all absorbed by the lead. The heat in the lead is used to run a standard thermal plant.

Last I knew they were having big problems getting everything to synchronize but that was 5 or so years ago. Seems like they are hammering away at the problem.


Is it a form of cavitation Fusion?
 
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