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(The Drive) NewsFlash After initial denials that anything was wrong at all, secretive authoritarian country now admits major problem at nuclear plant. This is not a repeat from April 1986 but it sure looks like it's playing out exactly the same way   (thedrive.com) divider line
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2021-06-16 3:14:53 PM  
Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!
 
2021-06-16 3:22:04 PM  

SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!


You build nuclear plants next to people.

People live near the water.

Maybe just stop building nuclear plants
 
2021-06-16 3:22:53 PM  
So the Yangtze River 3 Gorges dam project is on the verge of collapse, and now a nuke plant.

Smooth move, China.
 
2021-06-16 3:28:57 PM  
[D]ocuments obtained by CNN also accuse Chinese safety officials of raising acceptable limits for radiation in the area surrounding the plant in order to avoid shutting it down.

LOL, of course. "The radiation is above the safe level!" "Well, raise the safe level and we're good!"
 
2021-06-16 3:30:20 PM  
You need a LOT of water to cool a nucl
 
2021-06-16 3:30:41 PM  
TLDR: The sensors only go to 3 milli-Roentgen.
 
2021-06-16 3:30:44 PM  
Nuclear reactor
 
2021-06-16 3:30:52 PM  
Not bad, not great.
 
2021-06-16 3:31:11 PM  
How do you say "Not great, not terrible" in Mandarin?
 
2021-06-16 3:31:28 PM  

Warfield55: Nuclear reactor


Dont drive and fark
 
2021-06-16 3:31:35 PM  
"Remember, you can't give a nuclear reactor too much water."
 
2021-06-16 3:32:05 PM  

Gubbo: SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!

You build nuclear plants next to people.

People live near the water.

Maybe just stop building nuclear plants


Coal it is then!
 
2021-06-16 3:32:14 PM  

fragMasterFlash: How do you say "Not great, not terrible" in Mandarin?


'Crisitunity'!
 
2021-06-16 3:32:35 PM  
It's only roentgen, not great but not terrible.
 
2021-06-16 3:32:56 PM  
Made in china
 
2021-06-16 3:33:01 PM  

Gubbo: SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!

You build nuclear plants next to people.

People live near the water.

Maybe just stop building nuclear plants


Stop building shiatty nuclear plants.  Particularly those with outdated designs and fail safes.
 
2021-06-16 3:33:03 PM  

fragMasterFlash: How do you say "Not great, not terrible" in Mandarin?


不是很好不可怕

\ Google Translate, it might actually say "the translation server is down"
 
2021-06-16 3:33:45 PM  

SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!


Ocean water is used for cooling.
 
2021-06-16 3:34:23 PM  
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2021-06-16 3:34:35 PM  

Bootleg: [D]ocuments obtained by CNN also accuse Chinese safety officials of raising acceptable limits for radiation in the area surrounding the plant in order to avoid shutting it down.

LOL, of course. "The radiation is above the safe level!" "Well, raise the safe level and we're good!"


"Levels are getting a little high, what's the current safety limit?"
'Uh...80 rads an hour.'
"Better increase that limit to 100."
'Good *cough* call sir.'
 
2021-06-16 3:34:40 PM  

gopher321: So the Yangtze River 3 Gorges dam project is on the verge of collapse, and now a nuke plant.

Smooth move, China.


Who would have guessed that building a 7,600 ft damn that generates ~95 TWh(Tera Watt hours) a year would be a hard thing?
 
2021-06-16 3:34:54 PM  

SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!


You need a large body of water to cool a nuclear plant.
 
2021-06-16 3:35:05 PM  
Isn't this thing less than 10 years old?
 
2021-06-16 3:35:17 PM  

fragMasterFlash: How do you say "Not great, not terrible" in Mandarin?


Aghh. I butchered it.
 
2021-06-16 3:35:30 PM  
So the plant went online in 2018. Maybe it's still under warranty or something.
 
2021-06-16 3:35:32 PM  
You know this Typhoon Season is going to send a few Cat 5s right up the coolant inlet.
 
2021-06-16 3:35:33 PM  
They were using the rods for mining crypto
 
2021-06-16 3:35:47 PM  

SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!


Thermal power plants rely on heat transfer to work.  The easiest way to make that heat work is by heating and cooling water.  Therefore, you need a location with a lot of water.  Also, electric generation works best when located closer to demand due to losses from resistance in wires increasing as their length increases.

Unless you can break physics with your magic Arc Reactor and room temperature superconductor, or something like that, in which case you can happily have the Nobel Prizes in physics, economics, and peace.
 
2021-06-16 3:36:14 PM  
The town I grew up in had a mutual aid agreement with Wright County regarding the Monticello, MN nuclear plant (Which happens to be the same design as was built at Fukushima, but fortunately is not in an area subject to earthquakes or tsunamis).  I remember one of our local cops saying "If you ever see Plymouth fire trucks on the reds headed west on I94, drive the other way!"
 
2021-06-16 3:36:24 PM  
CCP, right now...

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2021-06-16 3:36:30 PM  
paging Beijing Bob to the thread, Beijing Bob to the thread please.
 
2021-06-16 3:36:36 PM  
Not good, not bad either.
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2021-06-16 3:36:43 PM  
Duh.

When china let's France ask the US for help in stabilizing its nuclear power plant, it's because things are on the verge of getting really ugly, really fast.
 
2021-06-16 3:36:55 PM  
Oh great. This is just what we need. Another Godzilla.
 
2021-06-16 3:37:12 PM  
Nothing is wrong. We're all fine. No, you can't come in and see how fine we are. That would only decrease the level of fine-ness of this reactor.
 
2021-06-16 3:37:19 PM  
The French have a 30% stake in the place, and they certainly know how to run nuke plants.

The fact that they're asking the US for help means the situation is bad.
 
2021-06-16 3:37:34 PM  
Maybe you shouldn't buy fuel rods from Amazon Basics.
 
2021-06-16 3:37:35 PM  
Extreme tourism opportunity!
 
2021-06-16 3:37:42 PM  
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2021-06-16 3:38:09 PM  

BenSaw2: "Remember, you can't give a nuclear reactor too much water."


And "you can never look at a mushroom cloud for too long."
 
2021-06-16 3:38:10 PM  
Oh no, the Chinese government is downplaying and hiding another disaster in the making? fetch me my fainting couch!

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2021-06-16 3:38:41 PM  

Gubbo: SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!

You build nuclear plants next to people.

People live near the water.

Maybe just stop building nuclear plants


Humans will build huge, elaborate structures...they will spend all the money on them...and then those structures fail because the humans in question cut the dumbest corners possible because of cost. They couldn't be bothered to get the undercoating because it's extra.

/ It's like owning a Lewis Gun and feeding it the shiattiest surplus ammo you can find.
 
2021-06-16 3:39:26 PM  
Can someone please post a map of winds from the area? Seriously.
 
2021-06-16 3:39:28 PM  

MythDragon: Gubbo: SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!

You build nuclear plants next to people.

People live near the water.

Maybe just stop building nuclear plants

Coal it is then!


If we get our thumbs out of our asses, we can ride our existing nuclear plants right over to wind, solar, and hydro power. Chernobyl was an outlier, Fukushima was a trend - nuclear power's failure mode is really rare, but too catastrophic to keep farking with. No private insurance company on earth will insure nuclear reactors without a hard cap well below the costs of Fukushima (or Chernobyl). Why do I want my tax dollars to provide that insurance?
 
2021-06-16 3:39:29 PM  
So we wouldn't have known except for The French surrendering ... information.

/ Pepe Le Plutonium.
 
2021-06-16 3:39:42 PM  
So a dirty bomb waiting to go off, with 40 million people in the blast radius.  Well if just one reactor goes up they can keep running the other 3 for the next 13 years.
 
2021-06-16 3:39:43 PM  
In unrelated news, Springfield and China participate in worker exchange...

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2021-06-16 3:39:49 PM  
PRC news brief - "Everything is fine"  translation - Something is terribly wrong
PRC news brief - "This thing happened" translation - Someone is going to get farked dry
PRC news brief - "Well this is bigger than we originally anticipated" = bend over and kiss your ass goodbye

There is a distict difference between the Chinese PEOPLE and the Chinese Gov't.  People = good, gov't = underhanded liars

\probably an international thing
\\and they're playing the long game
\\\we're playing chess while they're playing Go
 
2021-06-16 3:40:10 PM  

Barnhawk72: Maybe you shouldn't buy fuel rods from Amazon Basics.


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It's fine, it's all manufactured in China anyway!
 
2021-06-16 3:40:17 PM  

Khellendros: Gubbo: SpectroBoy: Maybe stop building nuclear plants right next to the ocean!?!?!

You build nuclear plants next to people.

People live near the water.

Maybe just stop building nuclear plants

Stop building shiatty nuclear plants.  Particularly those with outdated designs and fail safes.


If even the Japanese can't do it right, who can?

/Used to be pro-nuke.
// Then Fukushima
3 headed fish
 
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