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2021-06-16 2:34:50 PM  
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2021-06-16 3:13:34 PM  
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2021-06-16 3:40:30 PM  
I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.
 
2021-06-16 3:51:23 PM  

FlashHarry: Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle.


Something tells me they would have made up anything negative and play it ad nauseum.
 
2021-06-16 4:18:13 PM  

gopher321: FlashHarry: Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle.

Something tells me they would have made up anything negative and play it ad nauseum.


From the people who brought you "Biden was AksHUalLy nOT drIViNG thAt TrUCk!"?

No way!
 
2021-06-16 4:18:45 PM  
Trump changes behaviour with a tweet. hell, Doug Ford changed plenty of institutions with a single, unexplained, threat to defund them. Biden is inefficient by comparison. Biden is also not a fascist corrupt mob boss but whatever.
 
2021-06-16 4:19:15 PM  

gopher321: FlashHarry: Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle.

Something tells me they would have made up anything negative and play it ad nauseum.



This.  There's absolutely no point in trying to outmaneuver the lies of Republicans.
 
2021-06-16 4:21:49 PM  
I'm going to play devils advocate for a minute regarding why a reporter would think to ask that question... stick with me here...

Putin turned Trump into his lackey in a one hour meeting. So, it is possible to change the behavior of a world leader. Granted, it was Trump, the dumbest soft jello ever to lead anything grander than a lego building, but it was done, so, maybe, just maybe, the reporter was thinking it wasn't a fluke.

Enough crazy talk... it was a boneheaded reporter
 
2021-06-16 4:23:25 PM  

FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.


Are you talking about the same people who attacked Jill Biden for letting herself be called Doctor, the people who attacked Kamala Harris for wishing people a happy Memorial Day or the people who attacked Biden's dog for not looking Presidential enough?

Yeah, I think he'll weather the criticism somehow.
 
2021-06-16 4:24:43 PM  
A simpler answer to the bs question would be, "I'm not confident Putin will change his behavior, but I am confident he knows the President of the United States is no longer toeing his political line."
 
2021-06-16 4:26:58 PM  

FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.


We really can't go through life worrying about how Fox News and RT are going to react to us.
 
2021-06-16 4:27:15 PM  

The Lone Gunman: FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.

Are you talking about the same people who attacked Jill Biden for letting herself be called Doctor, the people who attacked Kamala Harris for wishing people a happy Memorial Day or the people who attacked Biden's dog for not looking Presidential enough?

Yeah, I think he'll weather the criticism somehow.


They'd better leave that dog the fark alone. He's doing his best.
 
2021-06-16 4:27:54 PM  
The best part of that exchange was him telling her if she didn't understand how diplomacy works that she was in the wrong profession.
 
2021-06-16 4:27:58 PM  

gopher321: FlashHarry: Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle.

Something tells me they would have made up anything negative and play it ad nauseum.


Either way, they're already doing it.

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2021-06-16 4:28:05 PM  

Snatch Bandergrip: gopher321: FlashHarry: Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle.

Something tells me they would have made up anything negative and play it ad nauseum.


This.  There's absolutely no point in trying to outmaneuver the lies of Republicans.


I remember buttigeg got it right on the campaign trail when he said (to paraphrase) we can't base our policies around being afraid that Republicans are going to call us socialist, it doesn't matter what we propose they are always going to call the proposals socialist.

Trying to explain things to gqp reporters is a waste of time because the reporters aren't interested in truth, they want a soundbyte that they can pull out of context to fit their bullshiat narrative. They are phrasing their questions in an attempt to get a gotcha soundbyte out of you. They are doing the functional equivalent of showing up at every press conference and asking "do you plan to stop beating your wife"

There is no point in engaging with someone who isn't posing the question in good faith.
 
2021-06-16 4:28:09 PM  

FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.


Because all trump worshipers should be attacked and beaten to death.  Treason is the least of their crimes.
They only speak lies and hate America.
 
2021-06-16 4:28:13 PM  
Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.
 
2021-06-16 4:28:28 PM  

FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.


Nah. She's a shiatty reporter asking shiatty gotcha questions. CNN doing its best 'both sides', stocked up on right wing shills. This reporter used to have sex with Tucker Carlson work for the Daily Caller.

It doesn't matter what the right wing does. They're going to do it anyway. If you see this as anything other than shiat journalism, you're already planning for the second inauguration... or you're soon to catch Covid.
 
2021-06-16 4:29:11 PM  

FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.


Fark that. I want him to rip into these assholes. They're going to talk shiat whatever Joe says.
 
2021-06-16 4:29:38 PM  

FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.


At they very least, they will selectively edit and replay the "I'm not confident of anything" part of the quote.
 
2021-06-16 4:30:15 PM  
Vladimir Putin isn't intelligent enough to change his behavior.
 
2021-06-16 4:30:24 PM  

FlashHarry: Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.


They've already portrayed him as Sleepy, Dopey, Happy and Bashful, so I'm sure they'll find a way to portray him as Grumpy on their way to getting a 7 Dwarves Bingo no matter what.
 
2021-06-16 4:30:27 PM  

Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.


LOL. Totes, bro!

If it was your lord and savior, he wouldn't get one sentence out before calling her a nasty woman.

Clown.
 
2021-06-16 4:30:52 PM  
Laura Rozen @lrozen 1h

ThreadWH pool reporter, post presser: Biden said he apologized to Kaitlin Collins for snapping at her at the end of the press conference. "I shouldn't have been such a wise guy." But he defended his answer to her, saying it was important to be realistic but show an optimistic face.
 
2021-06-16 4:31:02 PM  
Just to clarify, the "some rightwing pundit" who asked the question was Kaitlan Collins, CNN's Chief WH Correspondent.

Oh, and Biden apologized for his response already.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/14​0​5234294562373633
 
2021-06-16 4:31:14 PM  

Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.


The press is only popular with either hardcore Democrats or hardcore Republicans when they're 100% subservient.  No hard questions, no follow ups, no "belligerence".

"Sure you can ask me about Israel but first get in front of the car so I can run you down"
"Oh ho ho ho you cad!  Classic Biden!  Hohoho!"
 
2021-06-16 4:33:45 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Laura Rozen @lrozen 1h

ThreadWH pool reporter, post presser: Biden said he apologized to Kaitlin Collins for snapping at her at the end of the press conference. "I shouldn't have been such a wise guy." But he defended his answer to her, saying it was important to be realistic but show an optimistic face.


I can't count the number of times his predecessor did the same thing.

Because it was zero.
 
2021-06-16 4:33:58 PM  
Isn't this talking point an admission that the things Putin has been doing are bad?

Why wasn't anyone concerned about Putin's behavior for the past four years?
=Smidge=
/Rhetorical question is rhetorical
 
2021-06-16 4:34:00 PM  

Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.


C'mon man you know this is bullshiat. Biden went out of his way to address the reporters question in very specific terms, then he pointed out quite validly that if you are going to press foreign diplomacy questions you should at least pretend to have some grasp of nuance.

At no point did Biden use personal insults "you're nasty, that's a nasty question" at no point did he use sexist or racist terms to respond.

If trump had responded to a question in this way I bet we would have had at least an afternoon of breathless CNN coverage on "is this Trump's presidential pivot? He just answered a whole question about diplomacy without trying to personally insult or blame anyone and he stayed on subject for the entire response without even using any major verifiable falsehoods. "
 
2021-06-16 4:34:27 PM  

GanjSmokr: gopher321: FlashHarry: Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle.

Something tells me they would have made up anything negative and play it ad nauseum.

Either way, they're already doing it.

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Did anyone mention yet that he apologized to her? You know, like Trump used to do...
 
2021-06-16 4:34:51 PM  

Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.


What color is the sky in your world?
 
2021-06-16 4:36:09 PM  

jethroe: Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.

The press is only popular with either hardcore Democrats or hardcore Republicans when they're 100% subservient.  No hard questions, no follow ups, no "belligerence".

"Sure you can ask me about Israel but first get in front of the car so I can run you down"
"Oh ho ho ho you cad!  Classic Biden!  Hohoho!"


Was a pretty dumb and factually presumptive question though.
 
2021-06-16 4:38:34 PM  

razrez75: jethroe: Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.

The press is only popular with either hardcore Democrats or hardcore Republicans when they're 100% subservient.  No hard questions, no follow ups, no "belligerence".

"Sure you can ask me about Israel but first get in front of the car so I can run you down"
"Oh ho ho ho you cad!  Classic Biden!  Hohoho!"

Was a pretty dumb and factually presumptive question though.


I agree with you. But politicians should be able to field dumb and factually presumptive questions with ease.  With, dare I say, grace.

Especially if they've been in politics for 50 years.
 
2021-06-16 4:38:36 PM  

FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.


He should have dropped an F bomb on her ignorant ass.
 
2021-06-16 4:40:15 PM  

Subtonic: FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.

Fark that. I want him to rip into these assholes. They're going to talk shiat whatever Joe says.


Long game - the behavior is a no-no for POTUS, but we're not on a normal timeline anymore. The fascists have infiltrated the GOP and send their bullies to do stupid shiat like this. Beat them down publicly, shun them in front of their peers, and force the 'reporter' into an anxiety filled week as he/she notices their colleagues whispering behind their backs as to how god damn stupid they are. Maybe over time we'll see less and less of these trolls showing up for events, or even applying to work for these organizations at all, for fear of getting their ass handed to them.

It's a long shot, but we're at a point where it's time to take off the gloves and show everyone just how god damn stupid they are.
 
2021-06-16 4:40:42 PM  

Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.


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2021-06-16 4:42:09 PM  
Who cares, they were looking for something to use in a sound bite and they got it. They can twist his words and speculate on what he means but at the end of the day it's a meaningless encounter.

It doesn't affect policy, it will be forgotten about in a few days, so who cares, its run of the mill political media designed to make clickbait out of
 
2021-06-16 4:42:53 PM  

jethroe: Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.

The press is only popular with either hardcore Democrats or hardcore Republicans when they're 100% subservient.  No hard questions, no follow ups, no "belligerence".

"Sure you can ask me about Israel but first get in front of the car so I can run you down"
"Oh ho ho ho you cad!  Classic Biden!  Hohoho!"


In my experience reporters are only popular with Americans when they're shilling for the next oil war, gushing over the latest celebrity baby with a funky name or slavishly trumpeting the ever-great unstoppable greatness of America The Great.

Do any actual journalism? The Columbia Journalism Review will probably like it. Maybe the Peabody committee, if you can tell a compelling story anyway. Very few others.
 
2021-06-16 4:43:29 PM  
To anyone trying to compare that to what Dolt 45 would have done, easy. He would have said "YOU are fake news"
 
2021-06-16 4:45:39 PM  

The Lone Gunman: FlashHarry: I like Biden, but that was dumb. Yes, it was a bullshiat question, but he should've answered it rather than teeing off on her. Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle. It was an own goal.

Are you talking about the same people who attacked Jill Biden for letting herself be called Doctor, the people who attacked Kamala Harris for wishing people a happy Memorial Day or the people who attacked Biden's dog for not looking Presidential enough?

Yeah, I think he'll weather the criticism somehow.


Also, he's even apologized for it.

https://twitter.com/justinsink/status​/​1405229288803246082
 
2021-06-16 4:47:02 PM  
Republicans are assholes.
 
2021-06-16 4:47:10 PM  

Opacity: I'm going to play devils advocate for a minute regarding why a reporter would think to ask that question... stick with me here...

Putin turned Trump into his lackey in a one hour meeting. So, it is possible to change the behavior of a world leader. Granted, it was Trump, the dumbest soft jello ever to lead anything grander than a lego building, but it was done, so, maybe, just maybe, the reporter was thinking it wasn't a fluke.

Enough crazy talk... it was a boneheaded reporter


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2021-06-16 4:49:15 PM  

SpectroBoy: Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.

What color is the sky in your world?

Infrapurple with ultragreen polkadots.
 
2021-06-16 4:49:19 PM  

gopher321: FlashHarry: Now Fox News and RT will play it ad nauseam for the next cycle.

Something tells me they would have made up anything negative and play it ad nauseum.


As far as right-wing media is concerned there was no positive outcome from that question. If he responded calmly and dismissively then they would have called him a coward.

It's better that he came out swinging. We had enough of a blustering blowhard for 4 years now they get to deal with a combative intelligent person.
 
2021-06-16 4:50:28 PM  
Same reporter who felt the need to point this out..
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2021-06-16 4:51:52 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Same reporter who felt the need to point this out..
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Well that's silly. One is much... fatter.
 
2021-06-16 4:52:42 PM  

SpectroBoy: [i.ruqqus.com image 244x300]

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The first thing ZZZT made me think of:

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2021-06-16 4:52:57 PM  
I like it.  Mr T needs to be his next press secretary.
 
2021-06-16 4:53:08 PM  

HarveyBrooks: Shaggy_C: Belligerent old man Biden comes off as a bit unhinged and angry, doesn't he? If this were Trump we'd be talking about how he "blew a gasket" and "attacked a reporter (and is probably racist for it)." Instead "he wasn't going to let that one slide" as if it's a good thing.

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Poor shaggy, it must be frustrating to get dragged in nearly every thread.
 
2021-06-16 4:53:17 PM  
Kaitlan Collins sucks as a reporter when asking question.  She's good when passing on info about what was discussed by other reporters.
 
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