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(Motor 1)   GM considering dropping pot testing to attract more workers. Or maybe they could put the doors on the INSIDE of the vehicle instead of the outside, so you could come and go from wherever you are in the universe, man   (motor1.com) divider line
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173 clicks; posted to Business » on 16 Jun 2021 at 10:22 PM (5 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-06-16 10:24:30 PM  
Let's see
Climate control
*pushes tropical rainforest*
Great now it's raining inside the car
 
2021-06-16 10:45:15 PM  
3 guys get stranded in the desert after the car runs out of gas...
With no one and nothing in sight, the three men decided to each get one thing to carry and start walking to the next town over.
The first guy gets a jug of water and the other 2 guys ask what it is for... "Incase we get thirsty he says"
The second guy opens the trunk and gets out a blanket and the other 2 guys ask what it is for... "Incase we get cold at night"
The third guy unhinges the car door and the other 2 guys ask what it is for... "Incase we get hot, we can just roll down the window"
 
2021-06-16 11:17:40 PM  
My Aunt lives in Dayton and always talks about the "economy".  I told her well first off they need to take down those signs on the freeway as you enter the state "zero tolerance for drugs" and also not have cops hiding out everywhere to bust people.  Who would want to place a business there when it'd be damn near impossible to attract a workforce.  No one wants to live in a police state.
 
2021-06-16 11:19:47 PM  
They will still test for the presence of drugs and alcohol in the event of accidents, so smokers will still be rolling the dice on benefits.
 
2021-06-16 11:43:00 PM  
They're just saying that so it makes more sense to move their operations to Mexico
 
2021-06-16 11:51:23 PM  
Fark drug testing for anything.  If you can do your job, you keep your job.  If you can smoke a crack rock and the car you just screwed together passes inspection, you keep your job.  If the car you just screwed together fails inspection, you lose your job regardless of what you smoked on your day off.
 
2021-06-17 12:22:18 AM  
It's one thing to say you don't want people working drunk, high, or otherwise impaired on the job, especially when it involves the operation of heavy equipment where reduced reaction times can be directly responsible for avoidable fatalities.

It's another thing entirely to care what your workers are consuming on their days off. Pot is detectable weeks after someone was actually high, so firing someone that isn't obviously impaired that tests positive is doing exactly this, and simply isn't reasonable.
 
2021-06-17 12:51:20 AM  

trerro: It's one thing to say you don't want people working drunk, high, or otherwise impaired on the job, especially when it involves the operation of heavy equipment where reduced reaction times can be directly responsible for avoidable fatalities.

It's another thing entirely to care what your workers are consuming on their days off. Pot is detectable weeks after someone was actually high, so firing someone that isn't obviously impaired that tests positive is doing exactly this, and simply isn't reasonable.


Devising some sort of mental/physical impairment test would be an ideal alternative and a great standard for DWI's on marijuana if they wanted to go that route.
 
2021-06-17 3:59:24 AM  
My former FIL was a raging drunk that cost GM hundreds of thousands over the course of his employment.  He was a UAW member in good standing, so he could be falling down drunk and was still allowed to be on the clock.  And this was in the years before alcoholism was a medical disorder.

If the union would protect and promote that clown, someone using weed or weed based products should get a seat on the director's board.  Hell, there's probably already someone on the board that would test positive right now.

Businesses have to make insurers happy, but policing their employees for off hour activities is egregious.
 
2021-06-17 5:53:09 AM  
If you hire people who drink you might as well hire people who eat a few gummy bears or smoke a little smoke.  I have it on good authority that drunks are worse just in general.

And yet, some workplaces seem to encourage drinking, especially on a Friday afternoons.

One place even had a policy that you could drink after 3 or 4 on Fridays.  Was it 3 or 4?  I think it was 4, but they never specified what time zone.  (It's 4 o'clock somewhere, right?)

But never once have I had a boss tell me it was 4:20 Friday.
 
2021-06-17 9:52:15 AM  

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Devising some sort of mental/physical impairment test


That would be a subjective exam, not an objective test. Impairment exams are always rigged to fail you. Witness the articles we've seen here on Fark with police arresting people for DUIs based on "observations of impairment" and blood tests later show zero intoxicants.
 
2021-06-17 10:42:34 AM  

mrmopar5287: Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Devising some sort of mental/physical impairment test

That would be a subjective exam, not an objective test. Impairment exams are always rigged to fail you. Witness the articles we've seen here on Fark with police arresting people for DUIs based on "observations of impairment" and blood tests later show zero intoxicants.


"He wouldn't let me search his car.  That was a clear sign he had been drinking."
 
2021-06-17 12:09:16 PM  

zeroflight222: mrmopar5287: Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Devising some sort of mental/physical impairment test

That would be a subjective exam, not an objective test. Impairment exams are always rigged to fail you. Witness the articles we've seen here on Fark with police arresting people for DUIs based on "observations of impairment" and blood tests later show zero intoxicants.

"He wouldn't let me search his car.  That was a clear sign he had been drinking."


My personal favorite experience was a state trooper giving me two conflicting instructions so that no matter what I did was a failure.
 
2021-06-17 2:34:37 PM  
I figure it will change eventually with more states allowing recreational use.

But i don't think that is the big problem here. I think people aren't attracted to a Temp job working in a factory for the summer. Not when there are plenty of places looking for permanent workers.

Especially doing line work. That must be the most boring job. I had one as a youngster and lasted 3 days.
 
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