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2021-06-16 10:05:56 AM  
FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh.

5 generations of teenage mothers.  Now that'ssomething to be proud of?
 
2021-06-16 10:18:01 AM  
CSB:

In my family, a girl was born about 15 years ago while two of her great-great-grandmothers (one was my own grandmother) were still alive.

/CSB
 
2021-06-16 11:01:44 AM  
Looking forward to being a great great great great grandmother when she makes it to 100.
 
2021-06-16 11:12:31 AM  
The grandmother was 15 when she gave birth.
 
2021-06-16 11:23:13 AM  

unixpro: FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh.

5 generations of teenage mothers.  Now that'ssomething to be proud of?


Given the picture, I am very curious as to the (degree of) genetic variation in the local pool.
 
2021-06-16 12:23:39 PM  
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2021-06-16 1:49:01 PM  

Myrdinn: unixpro: FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh.

5 generations of teenage mothers.  Now that'ssomething to be proud of?

Given the picture, I am very curious as to the (degree of) genetic variation in the local pool.


It has a population of a half million, so a lot better than your typical European village.  Don't ask how deeply intwined your ancestors (no matter where) were.  Note that the whole of WV is 1.7million, so vastly more diverse than that whole state.

It shouldn't matter at all as long as mom and dad aren't related at all (modulo weird cross gene effects, as opposed to classic chromosome splitting, and that should go away if various grandparents  weren't related).

Of course, there's always the danger that those genes are keyed to a "type".  I wouldn't expect things to work that way, but you never know.  Of course with consistent teenage pregnancy, that "type" might be "has a dick and maybe a job".
 
2021-06-16 2:55:54 PM  
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2021-06-16 4:22:24 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Myrdinn: unixpro: FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh.

5 generations of teenage mothers.  Now that'ssomething to be proud of?

Given the picture, I am very curious as to the (degree of) genetic variation in the local pool.

It has a population of a half million, so a lot better than your typical European village.  Don't ask how deeply intwined your ancestors (no matter where) were.  Note that the whole of WV is 1.7million, so vastly more diverse than that whole state.

It shouldn't matter at all as long as mom and dad aren't related at all (modulo weird cross gene effects, as opposed to classic chromosome splitting, and that should go away if various grandparents  weren't related).

Of course, there's always the danger that those genes are keyed to a "type".  I wouldn't expect things to work that way, but you never know.  Of course with consistent teenage pregnancy, that "type" might be "has a dick and maybe a job".


X-)
General note, given exactly where they are... that is exactly "how deeply intertwined" my ancestors were, before we headed over to the New World.
I was not speaking of the town in general, I was speaking of the family in particular: the phenotype seems remarkably stable.

But, then again, the difference between a 14th century ancestor of mine and myself is about two inches in height, and fifty pounds.  He also had redder hair (apparently, judging by the painting), and a neater beard (also judging by the painting), so... I might not want to comment TOO much!
(Various men of the family have tried on some parts of his armour, so... yes, familiar with his size precisely.  We were always 'big' people, y'all just caught up in the last two or so hundred years.  For some reason, we do not vary much in appearance... except the one that was half-Moor looked like he had a tan his whole life).
 
2021-06-16 9:14:25 PM  

unixpro: FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh.

5 generations of teenage mothers.  Now that'ssomething to be proud of?


And the middle one was 15 when she gave birth
 
2021-06-17 12:17:50 AM  

Myrdinn: yet_another_wumpus: Myrdinn: unixpro: FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh.

5 generations of teenage mothers.  Now that'ssomething to be proud of?

Given the picture, I am very curious as to the (degree of) genetic variation in the local pool.

It has a population of a half million, so a lot better than your typical European village.  Don't ask how deeply intwined your ancestors (no matter where) were.  Note that the whole of WV is 1.7million, so vastly more diverse than that whole state.

It shouldn't matter at all as long as mom and dad aren't related at all (modulo weird cross gene effects, as opposed to classic chromosome splitting, and that should go away if various grandparents  weren't related).

Of course, there's always the danger that those genes are keyed to a "type".  I wouldn't expect things to work that way, but you never know.  Of course with consistent teenage pregnancy, that "type" might be "has a dick and maybe a job".

X-)
General note, given exactly where they are... that is exactly "how deeply intertwined" my ancestors were, before we headed over to the New World.
I was not speaking of the town in general, I was speaking of the family in particular: the phenotype seems remarkably stable.

But, then again, the difference between a 14th century ancestor of mine and myself is about two inches in height, and fifty pounds.  He also had redder hair (apparently, judging by the painting), and a neater beard (also judging by the painting), so... I might not want to comment TOO much!
(Various men of the family have tried on some parts of his armour, so... yes, familiar with his size precisely.  We were always 'big' people, y'all just caught up in the last two or so hundred years.  For some reason, we do not vary much in appearance... except the one that was half-Moor looked like he had a tan his whole life).


My family had to come to the New World to become intertwined. I found second cousins once removed who married. Not too surprised because I am descended from 5 of the founders of Hartford, CT so the gene pool was a bit small in the "wilderness" of the 1600's Connecticut.
 
2021-06-17 12:50:55 AM  

unixpro: FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh.

5 generations of teenage mothers.  Now that'ssomething to be proud of?


17,18,15, 18, 18.

/At this rate she might very well make it to great-great-great-great-grandmother
 
2021-06-17 1:20:42 AM  
Myrdinn:
I was not speaking of the town in general, I was speaking of the family in particular: the phenotype seems remarkably stable.
.


The "phenotype" is also a sociotype.
FTFA:
"The mothers are all on the same side of the family - and all except new mum Toni-Leigh Aitken work, or worked, as carers.
They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh."

I need a UK - to - Yank translation, though.

What exactly is a "Carer" ??  Is this some Britishism for nanny or healthcare aide or preschool teacher?  Or just someone who's emotionally invested in everything?
 
2021-06-17 6:57:19 AM  

Bonzo_1116: Myrdinn:
I was not speaking of the town in general, I was speaking of the family in particular: the phenotype seems remarkably stable.
.

The "phenotype" is also a sociotype.
FTFA:
"The mothers are all on the same side of the family - and all except new mum Toni-Leigh Aitken work, or worked, as carers.
They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh."

I need a UK - to - Yank translation, though.

What exactly is a "Carer" ??  Is this some Britishism for nanny or healthcare aide or preschool teacher?  Or just someone who's emotionally invested in everything?


British spelling of 'career'

They worked as workers, like ants, AKA subjects of the queen. Which means they served Beyonce, so they were all backup dancers.
 
2021-06-17 1:46:30 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Myrdinn:
I was not speaking of the town in general, I was speaking of the family in particular: the phenotype seems remarkably stable.
.

The "phenotype" is also a sociotype.
FTFA:
"The mothers are all on the same side of the family - and all except new mum Toni-Leigh Aitken work, or worked, as carers.
They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh."

I need a UK - to - Yank translation, though.

What exactly is a "Carer" ??  Is this some Britishism for nanny or healthcare aide or preschool teacher?  Or just someone who's emotionally invested in everything?


If the word is still the same as it was when we came over in the early-1600s, it is a person who "takes care of" someone in the extended clan who is sick, young, frail, or disabled."  It is an unpaid position, and more or less somewhere between a nanny and a nurse; usually fairly unskilled, but good with kids.
 
2021-06-17 2:08:09 PM  

Myrdinn: yet_another_wumpus: Myrdinn: unixpro: FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or
...
But, then again, the difference between a 14th century ancestor of mine and myself is about two inches in height, and fifty pounds.  He also had redder hair (apparently, judging by the painting), and a neater beard (also judging by the painting), so... I might not want to comment TOO much
...

A lot also depends on available diet.  I'll never forget my shock at the tiny Asian people who came to my dorm looking for their son, a "big old 'merican"-sized guy (seriously, he was bigger than some of my high school's offensive linemen, although it wasn't a football school at all).  They were Filipinos, and presumably the same genetic material that Samoan football players come from.  Not sure how much of their size was due to Japanese war crimes and how much was traditional Filipino diet.

I had previously assumed that the Irish had a similar experience in this country going from a potato based diet to a "meat and potatoes" diet, but historically potato-fed Irish peasants were the healthiest/biggest/best fed peasants in Europe, all that isn't saying much.
 
2021-06-17 2:54:09 PM  

yet_another_wumpus: Myrdinn: yet_another_wumpus: Myrdinn: unixpro: FTFA:  They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or
...
But, then again, the difference between a 14th century ancestor of mine and myself is about two inches in height, and fifty pounds.  He also had redder hair (apparently, judging by the painting), and a neater beard (also judging by the painting), so... I might not want to comment TOO much
...
A lot also depends on available diet.  I'll never forget my shock at the tiny Asian people who came to my dorm looking for their son, a "big old 'merican"-sized guy (seriously, he was bigger than some of my high school's offensive linemen, although it wasn't a football school at all).  They were Filipinos, and presumably the same genetic material that Samoan football players come from.  Not sure how much of their size was due to Japanese war crimes and how much was traditional Filipino diet.

I had previously assumed that the Irish had a similar experience in this country going from a potato based diet to a "meat and potatoes" diet, but historically potato-fed Irish peasants were the healthiest/biggest/best fed peasants in Europe, all that isn't saying much.


(Yes.  Family secret was apparently... milk.  Even in societies wherein drinking was the big thing for every meal, there was a sort of family order to drink a lot of milk [well, and bathing].  Family served as mercenaries for about twelve hundred years.)
 
2021-06-17 6:52:08 PM  

Bonzo_1116: Myrdinn:
I was not speaking of the town in general, I was speaking of the family in particular: the phenotype seems remarkably stable.
.

The "phenotype" is also a sociotype.
FTFA:
"The mothers are all on the same side of the family - and all except new mum Toni-Leigh Aitken work, or worked, as carers.
They all gave birth aged 18 or younger and live in or around Edinburgh."

I need a UK - to - Yank translation, though.

What exactly is a "Carer" ??  Is this some Britishism for nanny or healthcare aide or preschool teacher?  Or just someone who's emotionally invested in everything?


Yes. The position could be paid or unpaid, but is usually a home health aide.
 
2021-06-17 7:44:32 PM  
It really wasn't that long ago that giving birth to the first child in your mid-to-late teens was not simply normal, but expected. The only reason there weren't lots of similar cases of multi-generational families is people didn't live that long.
 
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