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2021-06-15 3:29:24 PM  
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2021-06-15 4:04:57 PM  
It's a good rule.
 
2021-06-15 4:05:03 PM  
Well that will keep out most republicans.
 
2021-06-15 4:06:06 PM  
Basically says "Re-publicans need not apply."
 
2021-06-15 4:08:35 PM  
Make it a federal election law.
 
2021-06-15 4:08:38 PM  
Should be a requirement for all elected officials to high office.
 
2021-06-15 4:09:12 PM  
Hiram Johnson bull moose 🤡 is largely responsible for ballot initiatives in this state that paved the way for the recall and a lot of really horrible props.  i hope him and Howard Jarvis are in the super heated and humid hell.

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2021-06-15 4:10:26 PM  
That is an oddly specific fee.
 
2021-06-15 4:11:07 PM  
We'll get to see how much Kris Jenner is supporting Caitlyn Jenner.
 
2021-06-15 4:11:08 PM  

A Cave Geek: Basically says "Re-publicans need not apply."


"Why sure, no problem, here are my returns.  Not much to see, just my annual salary from this totally not-sketchy political non-profit I work for, plus the occasional unspecified 'bonus'.  Oh, and some other random consulting fees from other not-sketchy political nonprofits.  Oh, you want to see the financials for those non-profits? No, sorry, no can do.  You'll have to take it up with their respective shadowy board members"
 
2021-06-15 4:11:08 PM  
That eliminates all the youtube celebrities.
 
2021-06-15 4:12:47 PM  

aleister_greynight: Should be a requirement for all elected officials to high office.


Along with a publicly released FBI background check.
 
2021-06-15 4:13:09 PM  
Is Caitlyn Jenner still running? Can't imagine she wants her tax info made public.
 
2021-06-15 4:13:27 PM  
65 signatures? That's it? No wonder CA recalls are a shiatshow
 
2021-06-15 4:14:02 PM  

aleister_greynight: Should be a requirement for all elected officials to high office.


Along with full divestment.
 
2021-06-15 4:15:31 PM  
I'm glad I moved back home, but probably the stupidest thing about CA is the ease with which a recall election can be declared. I wasn't here for the last one, and I was glad about that.

I'm no Newsom fanboi (dude is sleazy as f$ck and tends to be too centrist for my taste) but he's an adult and didn't turn CA into Covidtown. A recall is a waste of everyone's time and money.

/Goin' back to Cali? Yo, I DO think so
 
2021-06-15 4:15:53 PM  

Vacation Bible School: That is an oddly specific fee.


I always wonder about these. Why not just make it $4200? Or why not an even $4000? Or just round it to $5000? Is there a legal reason? An accounting reason? Or maybe it's a percentage increase from a previous year?
 
2021-06-15 4:17:20 PM  

Vacation Bible School: That is an oddly specific fee.


they base it on square footage.
 
2021-06-15 4:19:52 PM  
Time to change my name and run for Office

now announcing the Gaven Newsome campaign!
 
2021-06-15 4:22:27 PM  
Because  their taxes are sky high, their infrastructure is outdated, they have horrible traffic and roads are in very bad shape. They have the worst homeless problem. In San Francisco there are places you can't go because there are homeless people everywhere as well as human waste and hypodermic needles littering the floor. In addition, they are a sanctuary state which means police can't prosecute illegal immigrants and deport them. Their schools are also some of the worst in the nation. The cost of living here is outrageous. Gasoline prices are through the roof.
The people in charge of this state still think they have a revenue problem with having the highest taxes? This state has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.
 
2021-06-15 4:23:27 PM  
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"We have to win or else we're gonna look ridiculous for doing this."
 
2021-06-15 4:23:50 PM  
Gavin Newsome will remain governor
 
2021-06-15 4:25:41 PM  

mercator_psi: I'm glad I moved back home, but probably the stupidest thing about CA is the ease with which a recall election can be declared. I wasn't here for the last one, and I was glad about that.

I'm no Newsom fanboi (dude is sleazy as f$ck and tends to be too centrist for my taste) but he's an adult and didn't turn CA into Covidtown. A recall is a waste of everyone's time and money.

/Goin' back to Cali? Yo, I DO think so


I'm looking forward to living in California again but by far the stupidest thing there is Prop. 13. Gubernatorial recalls? Hell that's just part of the landscape now. Every Cali governor in my lifetime and yours has faced a recall. The only questions are how well funded, how well timed and how much farking damage to the state the Axis Of Stupid will attempt in setting the stage for the election.
 
2021-06-15 4:28:39 PM  

karnal: Because  their taxes are sky high, their infrastructure is outdated, they have horrible traffic and roads are in very bad shape. They have the worst homeless problem. In San Francisco there are places you can't go because there are homeless people everywhere as well as human waste and hypodermic needles littering the floor. In addition, they are a sanctuary state which means police can't prosecute illegal immigrants and deport them. Their schools are also some of the worst in the nation. The cost of living here is outrageous. Gasoline prices are through the roof.
The people in charge of this state still think they have a revenue problem with having the highest taxes? This state has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.


Sounds like every state in the Appalachians and the Ozarks.
 
2021-06-15 4:30:21 PM  
Good, requiring five years of tax returns, for any office, is gonna keep a whole lot of slimey bastards from running.  It will have a major impact on local elections too, which is the best part, because one can imagine there are a lot of guys who like to not pay their taxes until the IRS shows up at their door and makes them, who are also into small government politics.
 
2021-06-15 4:30:30 PM  

Vacation Bible School: That is an oddly specific fee.


I am sure the Qdiots will come up with a vast numerical conspiracy for what it stands for.
 
2021-06-15 4:34:23 PM  

winedrinkingman: Good, requiring five years of tax returns, for any office, is gonna keep a whole lot of slimey bastards from running.  It will have a major impact on local elections too, which is the best part, because one can imagine there are a lot of guys who like to not pay their taxes until the IRS shows up at their door and makes them, who are also into small government politics.


They'll just claim releasing that information is against their religion.

Same justification as everything else scumbag Repuglicans now do.
 
2021-06-15 4:34:30 PM  

austerity101: Vacation Bible School: That is an oddly specific fee.

I always wonder about these. Why not just make it $4200? Or why not an even $4000? Or just round it to $5000? Is there a legal reason? An accounting reason? Or maybe it's a percentage increase from a previous year?


I'm guessing it's indexed to a very precise inflation figure.
 
2021-06-15 4:36:18 PM  
I get that these laws were born out of trying to gotcha trump because he was probably engaged in some ridiculous level of corrupt nonsense with his taxes but does anyone really give a shiat under normal circumstances with relatively normal politicians. For example Biden released his taxes and did anyone care at all? We just had a leak about how these multi-multi billionaires don't pay any taxes and the response to it was meh we figured that was the case.
 
2021-06-15 4:36:34 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: winedrinkingman: Good, requiring five years of tax returns, for any office, is gonna keep a whole lot of slimey bastards from running.  It will have a major impact on local elections too, which is the best part, because one can imagine there are a lot of guys who like to not pay their taxes until the IRS shows up at their door and makes them, who are also into small government politics.

They'll just claim releasing that information is against their religion.

Same justification as everything else scumbag Repuglicans now do.


In that Tweet threads was this:

https://twitter.com/GuyMarzorati/stat​u​s/1404881671237685254

But there could be legal challenges to the tax return requirement. The 2019 law enacting the change only referenced a "primary election ballot."

There is no primary for this, just the general election.  So, in fact, that part might get thrown out.
 
2021-06-15 4:40:34 PM  

karnal: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: Because  their taxes are sky high, their infrastructure is outdated, they have horrible traffic and roads are in very bad shape. They have the worst homeless problem. In San Francisco there are places you can't go .......

 
2021-06-15 4:41:43 PM  

Grungehamster: [Fark user image 425x402]

"We have to win or else we're gonna look ridiculous for doing this."


Cmon, otherwise they'd have to wait for *checks records* next year to elect a new governor!
 
2021-06-15 4:41:58 PM  

Headso: I get that these laws were born out of trying to gotcha trump because he was probably engaged in some ridiculous level of corrupt nonsense with his taxes but does anyone really give a shiat under normal circumstances with relatively normal politicians. For example Biden released his taxes and did anyone care at all? We just had a leak about how these multi-multi billionaires don't pay any taxes and the response to it was meh we figured that was the case.


On the Presidential level, it has been common post-Nixon for the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates to release their tax returns; Trump was the first one who didn't since then.  His lack of doing so was what was newsworthy.

/Nixon's first VP, Spiro Agnew, was indicted for taking bribes while governor of Maryland and Baltimore County Executive
//he pled no contest to tax evasion (hence why everybody since then has released their taxes0 and resigned
///this scandal had nothing to do with Watergate, believe it or don't
 
2021-06-15 4:45:50 PM  

French Rage: Grungehamster: [Fark user image 425x402]

"We have to win or else we're gonna look ridiculous for doing this."

Cmon, otherwise they'd have to wait for *checks records* next year to elect a new governor!


They couldn't win in a midterm year in November; it being completely off-cycle so that Democrats hopefully don't bother to show up is their one hope to unseat Newsom.
 
2021-06-15 4:48:42 PM  

Geotpf: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: winedrinkingman: Good, requiring five years of tax returns, for any office, is gonna keep a whole lot of slimey bastards from running.  It will have a major impact on local elections too, which is the best part, because one can imagine there are a lot of guys who like to not pay their taxes until the IRS shows up at their door and makes them, who are also into small government politics.

They'll just claim releasing that information is against their religion.

Same justification as everything else scumbag Repuglicans now do.

In that Tweet threads was this:

https://twitter.com/GuyMarzorati/statu​s/1404881671237685254

But there could be legal challenges to the tax return requirement. The 2019 law enacting the change only referenced a "primary election ballot."

There is no primary for this, just the general election.  So, in fact, that part might get thrown out.


Oh, FFS.
 
2021-06-15 4:58:56 PM  
To run for Select Board in my town of 45,000 you have to get like 200 signatures.

If you can't get 65 signatures in California you're probably not ready for being Governor.
 
2021-06-15 5:01:49 PM  

hugram: Make it a federal election law.


THIS and...

Tman144: aleister_greynight: Should be a requirement for all elected officials to high office.

Along with a publicly released FBI background check.


THAT

Any federal government employee or contractor/subcontractor has to go through a background check.
It takes months. Anything they find fishy and you are not approved.

Why would elected officials who often have so much power and access to sensitive or classified information be any different?
 
2021-06-15 5:03:57 PM  

SpectroBoy: It's a good rule.


It's a good concept, but has already been ruled unconstitutional.
 
2021-06-15 5:06:38 PM  

Jairzinho: Why would elected officials who often have so much power and access to sensitive or classified information be any different?


Because there is nothing in the constitution saying that somebody running for Federal office needs to go through a background check.

Now, for non-Federal offices, the rules are different and you make shiat up as you go along (like the tax return thing).  But for Federal offices, only the restrictions already in the Constitution apply.
 
2021-06-15 5:12:46 PM  

Geotpf: Jairzinho: Why would elected officials who often have so much power and access to sensitive or classified information be any different?

Because there is nothing in the constitution saying that somebody running for Federal office needs to go through a background check.


Is there something in the Constitution saying that they MUST NOT have to be subject to a background check or equivalent?
 
2021-06-15 5:15:58 PM  

Vacation Bible School: That is an oddly specific fee.


67.534% of all people know that overly specific details lend credibility.
 
2021-06-15 5:47:14 PM  

JudgeSmails: Hiram Johnson bull moose 🤡 is largely responsible for ballot initiatives in this state that paved the way for the recall and a lot of really horrible props.  i hope him and Howard Jarvis are in the super heated and humid hell.

[Fark user image image 425x285]


It's also lead to some really good propositions. I would far rather have California's direct access to the ballot to bypass legislators then have functionally zero access as in my state.
 
2021-06-15 5:54:39 PM  

Jairzinho: Geotpf: Jairzinho: Why would elected officials who often have so much power and access to sensitive or classified information be any different?

Because there is nothing in the constitution saying that somebody running for Federal office needs to go through a background check.

Is there something in the Constitution saying that they MUST NOT have to be subject to a background check or equivalent?


The Supremes have ruled that the restrictions in the Constitution are the only ones that can be placed on Federal offices.  This is why, for example, Federal term limits are unconstitutional.

You can always amend the Constitution but hahaha you're serious let me laugh even louder hahahaha.
 
2021-06-15 5:55:17 PM  

austerity101: aleister_greynight: Should be a requirement for all elected officials to high office.

Along with full divestment.


Doesn't go far enough IMO. Any person running for federal and state office should have their backgrounds dug into by multiple alphabet agencies and the reports posted for the public to see. Complete transparency.
Public servants shouldn't have anything to hide.
 
2021-06-15 6:02:12 PM  

foo monkey: SpectroBoy: It's a good rule.

It's a good concept, but has already been ruled unconstitutional.


For President, yes.  For governor?  Don't think so.
 
2021-06-15 6:12:56 PM  

IndyJohn: JudgeSmails: Hiram Johnson bull moose 🤡 is largely responsible for ballot initiatives in this state that paved the way for the recall and a lot of really horrible props.  i hope him and Howard Jarvis are in the super heated and humid hell.

[Fark user image image 425x285]

It's also lead to some really good propositions. I would far rather have California's direct access to the ballot to bypass legislators then have functionally zero access as in my state.


maybe it would work well in your state but it's been a quick way to make sure marginalized groups get punished and wealthy white people continue to benefit.  prop 187,prop 13 and prop h8te have sewn enough division to last a lifetime.
 
2021-06-15 6:22:44 PM  

fiddlehead: Is Caitlyn Jenner still running? Can't imagine she wants her tax info made public.


She's gonna start whining about this any second now.
 
2021-06-15 6:52:38 PM  

JudgeSmails: IndyJohn: JudgeSmails: Hiram Johnson bull moose 🤡 is largely responsible for ballot initiatives in this state that paved the way for the recall and a lot of really horrible props.  i hope him and Howard Jarvis are in the super heated and humid hell.

[Fark user image image 425x285]

It's also lead to some really good propositions. I would far rather have California's direct access to the ballot to bypass legislators then have functionally zero access as in my state.

maybe it would work well in your state but it's been a quick way to make sure marginalized groups get punished and wealthy white people continue to benefit.  prop 187,prop 13 and prop h8te have sewn enough division to last a lifetime.


I used to live in California so I am familiar with both of those (I think Prop 13 is generally good but has some loopholes that need to be closed).  Process details matter, but I do think that there is value in direct democracy to advance popular issues in the face of obstructionist legislatures particularly in red states.
 
2021-06-15 8:06:02 PM  

A Cave Geek: karnal: Because  their taxes are sky high, their infrastructure is outdated, they have horrible traffic and roads are in very bad shape. They have the worst homeless problem. In San Francisco there are places you can't go because there are homeless people everywhere as well as human waste and hypodermic needles littering the floor. In addition, they are a sanctuary state which means police can't prosecute illegal immigrants and deport them. Their schools are also some of the worst in the nation. The cost of living here is outrageous. Gasoline prices are through the roof.
The people in charge of this state still think they have a revenue problem with having the highest taxes? This state has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

Sounds like every state in the Appalachians and the Ozarks.


Well, that post was written by someone from flyover country who has never been west of the Mississippi.
 
2021-06-15 9:20:41 PM  

A Cave Geek: karnal: Because  their taxes are sky high, their infrastructure is outdated, they have horrible traffic and roads are in very bad shape. They have the worst homeless problem. In San Francisco there are places you can't go because there are homeless people everywhere as well as human waste and hypodermic needles littering the floor. In addition, they are a sanctuary state which means police can't prosecute illegal immigrants and deport them. Their schools are also some of the worst in the nation. The cost of living here is outrageous. Gasoline prices are through the roof.
The people in charge of this state still think they have a revenue problem with having the highest taxes? This state has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

Sounds like every state in the Appalachians and the Ozarks.


Hey, hey, now..... I can't speak for the Appalachians, but the Ozarks resents resembles that statement.

/ditto the requirement, for ANY office, anywhere.
 
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