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(NPR)   Oh, nothing, just a box of 30 armor-piercing grenades stolen from a U.S. Marine Corps depot in Florida that ended up stuffed into a pillow case behind some bushes at some contractor's house in Atlanta   (npr.org) divider line
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2021-06-15 1:56:06 PM  
MAGA!
 
2021-06-15 2:00:29 PM  
What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do you not understand?!!!!1!11ONE.
 
2021-06-15 2:03:19 PM  
Oh stumped, you betcha. 

No fkin idea how that happened, at all. 

None at all.

/s
 
2021-06-15 2:06:32 PM  
Now the Mk-19... there's a fun weapon.

I've dreamed about putting one of those on my car for the drive to work many, many times.
 
2021-06-15 2:07:44 PM  
The MyPillow saga keeps getting darker.
 
2021-06-15 2:17:24 PM  
Six flatbed rail cars hauled 18 large storage containers known as conex boxes, each with an orange sign warning "Explosives" on its side.  Six flatbed rail cars hauled 18 large storage containers known as conex boxes, each with an orange sign warning "Explosives" on its side.

LOL.  "Here, members of the criminal underground.  We've labelled all the valuables for you.  Can we interest you in any weapons you might wish to steal?"


Armed guards who accompanied the shipment reported nothing. When the train reached Letterkenny, it was shuttled for the night to Rail Yard 1, an unsecured staging area outside the installation with no surveillance.
Upon arrival, workers didn't verify whether anti-theft seals on each container were intact. An inspector didn't check the seals the next day either, later saying it was because he couldn't see them.

CSX said in a statement that required security protocols were followed during the shipment and that "no seal exceptions were identified while the container was in our possession."


Because NOBODY F*CKING LOOKED, YOU ASSHOLES.


The last hope of finding clues came when the grenades showed up in Atlanta. But instead of treating the canister as evidence, explosives specialists from Dobbins Air Reserve Base took it and blew it up.

I've met some of the guys who get posted to Dobbins.  Let's just say it's not where the military send their best and brightest.

There was just one thing. The canisters are packed with 32 rounds. This one only had 30.
Two remain missing.


JFC.  There is not enough facepalm in the universe.
 
2021-06-15 2:18:06 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Now the Mk-19... there's a fun weapon.

I've dreamed about putting one of those on my car for the drive to work many, many times.


The Mk-19 was the one weapon in our company's inventory I never had a chance to fire.

/Well, didn't fire the M203 while with the company
//But did get to put HE rounds through it in basic
///So...
 
2021-06-15 2:18:18 PM  
General "Mad Dog" Mattis is probably steamed-up about this.

We used to stay at this place in SF (near Sutter & Mason) since dad was in WWII:
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2021-06-15 2:46:45 PM  
I hate grenade spammers...
 
2021-06-15 2:55:22 PM  

Bootleg: NewportBarGuy: Now the Mk-19... there's a fun weapon.

I've dreamed about putting one of those on my car for the drive to work many, many times.

The Mk-19 was the one weapon in our company's inventory I never had a chance to fire.

/Well, didn't fire the M203 while with the company
//But did get to put HE rounds through it in basic
///So...


You missed some real fun. More fun than a M2. A three man hump if carried and 2 carry ammo. Only thing close for fun was stingers.
 
2021-06-15 2:55:53 PM  
When the train reached Letterkenny, it was shuttled for the night to Rail Yard 1, an unsecured staging area outside the installation with no surveillance.

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2021-06-15 3:14:15 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: When the train reached Letterkenny, it was shuttled for the night to Rail Yard 1, an unsecured staging area outside the installation with no surveillance.

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goddam pheasants.
 
2021-06-15 3:20:57 PM  
The Klan isn't just in LEO ranks.
 
2021-06-15 3:52:33 PM  
Say what you will about gun nuts and the culture surrounding it but shooting stuff and blowing sh*t up is fun.
 
2021-06-15 3:53:12 PM  
This shipment was the responsibility of rail freight giant CSX Corp., which provided everything from locomotive and tracks to guards and engineers to the dozen or so rail yards where the train stopped along the way.

Something tells me the for-profit company will face no penalties for its negligence.
 
2021-06-15 3:54:53 PM  

Ker_Thwap: The MyPillow saga keeps getting darker.


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2021-06-15 3:55:06 PM  
"REPEAT" tag on vacation, or are we just being alarmist today for no reason? Again?
 
2021-06-15 3:55:12 PM  
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The Mark 19.
For when you absolutely, positively need to carpet an area with grenades.
 
2021-06-15 3:55:30 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Now the Mk-19... there's a fun weapon.

I've dreamed about putting one of those on my car for the drive to work many, many times.


There's some really terribly looking fake ones out there
 
2021-06-15 3:56:03 PM  
On the case:

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2021-06-15 3:56:55 PM  
Um, aren't all grenades "armor piercing"?

And from TFA:
They're linked together to feed into an MK 19 launcher, a weapon that is like a machinegun for grenades, able every second to shoot one nearly a mile.

I have no need for anything like this, but it would be fun to go out and blow shiat up with, that's for sure. Like, if I was still an eligible age, I might join the Army just to fire one of these. Now I'm off to find a video of this in action.
 
2021-06-15 4:00:26 PM  

Mikey1969: Um, aren't all grenades "armor piercing"?

And from TFA:
They're linked together to feed into an MK 19 launcher, a weapon that is like a machinegun for grenades, able every second to shoot one nearly a mile.

I have no need for anything like this, but it would be fun to go out and blow shiat up with, that's for sure. Like, if I was still an eligible age, I might join the Army just to fire one of these. Now I'm off to find a video of this in action.


No, not all grenades are AP. Some are frag, he, incendiary, smoke, tear gas, flashbang, etc.

Quite the variety, really.
 
2021-06-15 4:01:44 PM  

Ker_Thwap: The MyPillow saga keeps getting darker.


Came here to say this. Bravo sir
 
2021-06-15 4:03:00 PM  

Private_Citizen: Mikey1969: Um, aren't all grenades "armor piercing"?

And from TFA:
They're linked together to feed into an MK 19 launcher, a weapon that is like a machinegun for grenades, able every second to shoot one nearly a mile.

I have no need for anything like this, but it would be fun to go out and blow shiat up with, that's for sure. Like, if I was still an eligible age, I might join the Army just to fire one of these. Now I'm off to find a video of this in action.

No, not all grenades are AP. Some are frag, he, incendiary, smoke, tear gas, flashbang, etc.

Quite the variety, really.


Oh yeah, duh... Although, I'd say that fragmentation grenades would pierce armor, but you're right about the rest...
 
2021-06-15 4:03:45 PM  
Shoot a feller have a good weekend insurrectin' the capital with that stuff
 
2021-06-15 4:05:08 PM  
"The military doesn't have a centralized tracking system for rail shipments like this one, instead relying on contractors to deliver the arms and explosives safely....The train's circuitous route passed through Atlanta twice before it arrived 17 days later at Letterkenny Army Depot in central Pennsylvania. There, a worker unpacking the container discovered the theft. "
So not only do they just hand over several boxcars full of weapons to some private company, they also let them take a "when it gets there, it gets there" approach to delivery.  Honestly, I get the desire to not spend wastefully (since they do for almost everything else), but I feel like weapons shipments are something actually worth spending money on to do right.  Splurge for the express shipping and make them take an escort along for the ride or something.
 
2021-06-15 4:05:30 PM  
Read another article today. Over 2000 US  military rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers have gone missing from inventory between 2010 and 2019. Most were US army.
 
2021-06-15 4:05:41 PM  
That's nothing.  That stuff probably goes missing all the time.  This stuff, however....
 
2021-06-15 4:06:15 PM  
And people think all the ammo drops in GTA break reality
 
2021-06-15 4:07:26 PM  
Letterkenney!  I knew those hosers were too good to be true.
 
2021-06-15 4:07:43 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Now the Mk-19... there's a fun weapon.

I've dreamed about putting one of those on my car for the drive to work many, many times.


But then the pandemic happened and you didnt go to work anymore.
 
2021-06-15 4:08:25 PM  

Ker_Thwap: The MyPillow saga keeps getting darker.


So...this actually happened:

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2021-06-15 4:09:13 PM  
TFA-- "There was just one thing. The canisters are packed with 32 rounds. This one only had 30."

The NPR sure knows how to set up some drama.+
 
2021-06-15 4:09:22 PM  
The military doesn't have a centralized tracking system for rail shipments like this one, instead relying on contractors to deliver the arms and explosives safely.

Then they look for the cheapest contractor...

Military investigators would conclude that no one checked the seals in the weeks after the train departed Blount Island.

...like contractors that keep their prices low by not doing inspections.
 
2021-06-15 4:09:46 PM  

Mikey1969: Um, aren't all grenades "armor piercing"?

And from TFA:
They're linked together to feed into an MK 19 launcher, a weapon that is like a machinegun for grenades, able every second to shoot one nearly a mile.

I have no need for anything like this, but it would be fun to go out and blow shiat up with, that's for sure. Like, if I was still an eligible age, I might join the Army just to fire one of these. Now I'm off to find a video of this in action.


There's a place in Colorado called Dragon Man's that'll save you 4 years of enlistment. Not sure if they have an MK-19 but they have virtually anything else you can possibly fire.
 
2021-06-15 4:10:06 PM  

fiddlehead: Ker_Thwap: The MyPillow saga keeps getting darker.

So...this actually happened:

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The DUMBEST reality...
 
2021-06-15 4:12:28 PM  
After careful consideration the rounds were dumped because no one wants to walk off with a Mk 19.

AP rounds? I always thought that 40mm was too small for effective HEAT.
 
2021-06-15 4:13:24 PM  

STFU_SNAFU_: Read another article today. Over 2000 US  military rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers have gone missing from inventory between 2010 and 2019. Most were US army.


I saw an article on that, and did a little more reading; the numbers included battlefield drops and guns simply missing from inventory - and the information we have doesn't break it down into one or the other.
 
2021-06-15 4:15:59 PM  
Once you got the T&E dialed in, it's a bad motherfarker!!
/who am I kidding
//even if you miss, it's so farking cool to shoot!!
///Marines get to shoot it in BWT :)
 
2021-06-15 4:17:06 PM  

Scaley: After careful consideration the rounds were dumped because no one wants to walk off with a Mk 19.

AP rounds? I always thought that 40mm was too small for effective HEAT.


There are HEDP 40mm that'll do 2-3" of light armor.
 
2021-06-15 4:17:09 PM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: STFU_SNAFU_: Read another article today. Over 2000 US  military rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers have gone missing from inventory between 2010 and 2019. Most were US army.

I saw an article on that, and did a little more reading; the numbers included battlefield drops and guns simply missing from inventory - and the information we have doesn't break it down into one or the other.


True but we know weapons are going missing from armories. Can't find it immediately but read an article recently where a 9mm which was used in multiple crimes in New York was traced back as military issue. The serial number showed that it was in an armory 600 miles away and accounted for.

There needs to be better record keeping and tracking of military hardware.
 
2021-06-15 4:19:16 PM  

Mikey1969: Private_Citizen: Mikey1969: Um, aren't all grenades "armor piercing"?

And from TFA:
They're linked together to feed into an MK 19 launcher, a weapon that is like a machinegun for grenades, able every second to shoot one nearly a mile.

I have no need for anything like this, but it would be fun to go out and blow shiat up with, that's for sure. Like, if I was still an eligible age, I might join the Army just to fire one of these. Now I'm off to find a video of this in action.

No, not all grenades are AP. Some are frag, he, incendiary, smoke, tear gas, flashbang, etc.

Quite the variety, really.

Oh yeah, duh... Although, I'd say that fragmentation grenades would pierce armor, but you're right about the rest...


body armor but not hardened vehicles.
 
2021-06-15 4:19:21 PM  

eurotrader: Bootleg: NewportBarGuy: Now the Mk-19... there's a fun weapon.

I've dreamed about putting one of those on my car for the drive to work many, many times.

The Mk-19 was the one weapon in our company's inventory I never had a chance to fire.

/Well, didn't fire the M203 while with the company
//But did get to put HE rounds through it in basic
///So...

You missed some real fun. More fun than a M2. A three man hump if carried and 2 carry ammo. Only thing close for fun was stingers.


Personally, I'm just not into that kind of fun.
 
2021-06-15 4:19:33 PM  

Scaley: After careful consideration the rounds were dumped because no one wants to walk off with a Mk 19.

AP rounds? I always thought that 40mm was too small for effective HEAT.


A WP (White Phosphorus) grenade will melt through the hood of a car, then its block, then the pavement its under
 
2021-06-15 4:20:25 PM  

Telephone Sanitizer Second Class: When the train reached Letterkenny, it was shuttled for the night to Rail Yard 1, an unsecured staging area outside the installation with no surveillance.

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So you're stealing grenades the other daaaaaaaay...
 
2021-06-15 4:21:23 PM  

ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: STFU_SNAFU_: Read another article today. Over 2000 US  military rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers have gone missing from inventory between 2010 and 2019. Most were US army.

I saw an article on that, and did a little more reading; the numbers included battlefield drops and guns simply missing from inventory - and the information we have doesn't break it down into one or the other.


I found it interesting as well. And no mention of "enemy" war trophies either. Seen a bunch of those from long ago. I imagine it still happens, even though it is probably harder to smuggle a trophy AK these days.
 
2021-06-15 4:22:12 PM  

gopher321: NewportBarGuy: Now the Mk-19... there's a fun weapon.

I've dreamed about putting one of those on my car for the drive to work many, many times.

There's some really terribly looking fake ones out there


Pfft.  Uncle Albert sells fake grenade launchers for only $100.

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2021-06-15 4:23:48 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Now the Mk-19... there's a fun weapon.

I've dreamed about putting one of those on my car for the drive to work many, many times.


Drive offensively!
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/With acknowledgement to "Why Johnny Can't Speed" by Alan Dean Foster
 
2021-06-15 4:24:16 PM  

Luse: ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: STFU_SNAFU_: Read another article today. Over 2000 US  military rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers have gone missing from inventory between 2010 and 2019. Most were US army.

I saw an article on that, and did a little more reading; the numbers included battlefield drops and guns simply missing from inventory - and the information we have doesn't break it down into one or the other.

True but we know weapons are going missing from armories. Can't find it immediately but read an article recently where a 9mm which was used in multiple crimes in New York was traced back as military issue. The serial number showed that it was in an armory 600 miles away and accounted for.

There needs to be better record keeping and tracking of military hardware.


Maybe the pistol was just being given some leave before a deployment?
 
2021-06-15 4:24:45 PM  

Luse: ISmartAllMyOwnPosts: STFU_SNAFU_: Read another article today. Over 2000 US  military rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenades, and rocket launchers have gone missing from inventory between 2010 and 2019. Most were US army.

I saw an article on that, and did a little more reading; the numbers included battlefield drops and guns simply missing from inventory - and the information we have doesn't break it down into one or the other.

True but we know weapons are going missing from armories. Can't find it immediately but read an article recently where a 9mm which was used in multiple crimes in New York was traced back as military issue. The serial number showed that it was in an armory 600 miles away and accounted for.

There needs to be better record keeping and tracking of military hardware.


pfft when I was in the Navy another guy lost our codebook.

/why an ROTC detachment had a code book was never explained.
//technically he accidentally threw it away
///third slashie for the amount of shiat he got into
 
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