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(Axios)   Upwards of 40% of American workers are on the verge of quitting their jobs after a year of pandemic-induced reflection, say life is too important for that work thingy   (axios.com) divider line
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2021-06-14 12:54:15 PM  
It is too important for work. As long as the work still gets done and I don't have to do it then its good.
 
2021-06-14 12:56:31 PM  
I was unemployed for a long stretch of the Plague. I missed my paycheck more than I missed outdoors.
 
2021-06-14 1:11:17 PM  
I've been without a job for 3 years come tomorrow. The only thing I miss is being able to afford living. But going back to work the way we had things is absolutely untenable.
 
2021-06-14 1:14:24 PM  
oh it is, to.
 
2021-06-14 1:36:04 PM  
Good.  We've had two decades of the quit-rate being super low, even when the economy has been relatively good.  When people overall are more willing to leave their jobs and find something else to do (whether it's another job or not), it will drive upward pressure on wages and increase overall happiness.

/ not quitting my job any time soon
// or, like, ever
/// but my circumstances are fairly unique
 
2021-06-14 1:37:10 PM  

Cafe Threads: I've been without a job for 3 years come tomorrow. The only thing I miss is being able to afford living. But going back to work the way we had things is absolutely untenable.


You've evidently got some disposable income left to burn on an aging news aggregate website.
 
2021-06-14 1:39:33 PM  

GoldSpider: Cafe Threads: I've been without a job for 3 years come tomorrow. The only thing I miss is being able to afford living. But going back to work the way we had things is absolutely untenable.

You've evidently got some disposable income left to burn on an aging news aggregate website.


EVERYTHING you see was a gift. Including my TF.

After the money ran out from the sale of my house, I have been living on charity. And believe me, I am grateful for it!
 
2021-06-14 1:43:04 PM  
LOL, just quit my job 30 minutes ago. Cut up my credit cards, dropped them in a bag with my IDs and keys, handed it to a manager and walked off. Wife is PISSED.
 
2021-06-14 1:43:07 PM  
Quitting a job without another one lined up (or some sort of other income) seems foolish, IMHO.
 
2021-06-14 1:47:11 PM  
I quit my job two and a half years ago due to my company hiring my new boss who was/is a dickhead. I really hated to leave because it had been the best job I'd ever had. The loss of autonomy and control was not enough to offset the low to mid six figure income. So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Then a little over a year ago I started my own company. Yay! Then covid came along and I had to close. Boo!

So I've been taking care of my parents, doing home projects, etc. for about a year now. I know I'm going to have to go back to work eventually. But the thought of doing so is excruciating, at times.
 
2021-06-14 1:50:28 PM  

Geotpf: Quitting a job without another one lined up (or some sort of other income) seems foolish, IMHO.


Yeah, that's starting to sink in, but I got a few months rent in the bank and no other real bills. A couple hundred a month for insurance and phone and other misc. crap is all. As long as I don't get sick I'll be good.
 
2021-06-14 1:50:32 PM  

majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.


Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.
 
2021-06-14 1:54:48 PM  

Geotpf: Quitting a job without another one lined up (or some sort of other income) seems foolish, IMHO.


Normally yes. But when you have to start taking time off to deal with 2 hour zoom interviews regularly, the bosses start asking questions about why you're suddenly very clean cut and using your vacation more. Also, a lot of companies are rather desperate for workers so people can find other jobs pretty quick, even if their crap, should the need arise.

Quit the dumpster fire I was suffering a month ago and I'm going back to school myself. I don't regret the decision at all.
 
2021-06-14 1:55:30 PM  

OptionC: majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.


They paid me 1/4 of my salary/bonus to stay at home. That was about $75k gross. As I had already paid everything off, it allowed me to cruise right up to this point. But I have about 6 months of play money left before I really have to get back to earning something.
 
2021-06-14 2:01:54 PM  
Many of the changes were going to happen anyway; things have just been compressed by the pandemic. We're going through a lot of shuffling at the moment but it's mostly between our recently-lifted hiring freeze and people not wanting to switch/leave jobs during a period of uncertainty. So we're experiencing what would normally be about 16 months of disruption in the space of three or four months.

/We also grew rapidly during the 90s, and a lot of those people are now retiring. So I think a lot of this is more in the "convergence" rather than "epiphany" category.
 
2021-06-14 2:03:41 PM  

majestic: OptionC: majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.

They paid me 1/4 of my salary/bonus to stay at home. That was about $75k gross. As I had already paid everything off, it allowed me to cruise right up to this point. But I have about 6 months of play money left before I really have to get back to earning something.


I'm just sitting here in awe that someone can get paid 75 grand to do literally nothing, but we can't raise the minimum wage. I can't even tell you have overwhelmingly thrilled I'd be if someone said, "Here's $75,000, go sit on your ass for a year."
 
2021-06-14 2:03:53 PM  

majestic: OptionC: majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.

They paid me 1/4 of my salary/bonus to stay at home. That was about $75k gross. As I had already paid everything off, it allowed me to cruise right up to this point. But I have about 6 months of play money left before I really have to get back to earning something.


Good on ya! I just had 3 people(managers) quit at my job that had been there for about 30 years each, including one that was being groomed for a corporate VP spot. I don't if it's possible to replace them, the loss of institutional knowledge is pretty immense. It's going to be an interesting summer....

/they quit in the middle of a product release cycle, which is a giant middle finger to someone......
 
2021-06-14 2:04:27 PM  
*know
 
2021-06-14 2:07:46 PM  

austerity101: majestic: OptionC: majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.

They paid me 1/4 of my salary/bonus to stay at home. That was about $75k gross. As I had already paid everything off, it allowed me to cruise right up to this point. But I have about 6 months of play money left before I really have to get back to earning something.

I'm just sitting here in awe that someone can get paid 75 grand to do literally nothing, but we can't raise the minimum wage. I can't even tell you have overwhelmingly thrilled I'd be if someone said, "Here's $75,000, go sit on your ass for a year."


Same. Hell, I'd even do that for 10% less.
 
2021-06-14 2:09:31 PM  
everyone has THOUGHT about just chucking it all long before the pandemic but almost no one does.  that trend will continue.
 
2021-06-14 2:24:18 PM  
20% of the people I was working with on 2/1 have resigned, mostly saying that they feel the need to spend the summer with their family, readjusting their priorities ... or just going someplace else now that we know the world isn't going to collapse. 

And this is a double-digit number here.

Also - Nobody took any time off in the last 18 months, and almost everyone I worked with was putting in 60 hour weeks (except the parents)

All the side-hustles, all the side-projects, all the powder that has been kept dry is about to go off.
 
2021-06-14 2:31:59 PM  

austerity101: majestic: OptionC: majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.

They paid me 1/4 of my salary/bonus to stay at home. That was about $75k gross. As I had already paid everything off, it allowed me to cruise right up to this point. But I have about 6 months of play money left before I really have to get back to earning something.

I'm just sitting here in awe that someone can get paid 75 grand to do literally nothing, but we can't raise the minimum wage. I can't even tell you have overwhelmingly thrilled I'd be if someone said, "Here's $75,000, go sit on your ass for a year."


I don't disagree about minimum wage being way too low. In my defense, I did grow my region from 0 to $35 million in sales in about 7 years. They got off cheap, honestly.
 
2021-06-14 2:34:59 PM  
the mega corps can wait longer than your car and mortgage payment due dates.  and uncle sam ain't bailing out the worker caste.

/sorry for the reality check
 
2021-06-14 2:35:37 PM  

OptionC: majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.


Only in California.

Generally, all it takes is a call to the new company informing them of the non compete to have the job offer withdrawn.

Remember when Jimmy John's started forcing their employees to sign non competes?
 
2021-06-14 2:36:17 PM  
I am among them. It seems so stupid to keep living this way. I feel like I got a bit of a break during COVID, but to go back to the old way just isn't something I have in me.

I'm considering what career to go into next and how to make it happen.
 
2021-06-14 2:38:21 PM  

BretMavrik: Many of the changes were going to happen anyway; things have just been compressed by the pandemic. We're going through a lot of shuffling at the moment but it's mostly between our recently-lifted hiring freeze and people not wanting to switch/leave jobs during a period of uncertainty. So we're experiencing what would normally be about 16 months of disruption in the space of three or four months.

/We also grew rapidly during the 90s, and a lot of those people are now retiring. So I think a lot of this is more in the "convergence" rather than "epiphany" category.


It's the Boomers that are not returning.

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2021-06-14 2:44:22 PM  

DuneClimber: I am among them. It seems so stupid to keep living this way. I feel like I got a bit of a break during COVID, but to go back to the old way just isn't something I have in me.

I'm considering what career to go into next and how to make it happen.


I hear you. My friends will ask me what I'm going to do and I have to admit that I really don't know. I don't want to go back to what I was doing, but, realistically, I'll probably have to since that is what I've done for the last 25 years.
 
2021-06-14 2:50:33 PM  

majestic: austerity101: majestic: OptionC: majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.

They paid me 1/4 of my salary/bonus to stay at home. That was about $75k gross. As I had already paid everything off, it allowed me to cruise right up to this point. But I have about 6 months of play money left before I really have to get back to earning something.

I'm just sitting here in awe that someone can get paid 75 grand to do literally nothing, but we can't raise the minimum wage. I can't even tell you have overwhelmingly thrilled I'd be if someone said, "Here's $75,000, go sit on your ass for a year."

I don't disagree about minimum wage being way too low. In my defense, I did grow my region from 0 to $35 million in sales in about 7 years. They got off cheap, honestly.


No defense necessary. I'm indicting the system, not you.
 
2021-06-14 2:56:41 PM  

DuneClimber: I am among them. It seems so stupid to keep living this way. I feel like I got a bit of a break during COVID, but to go back to the old way just isn't something I have in me.

I'm considering what career to go into next and how to make it happen.


Same. I just paid off my student loans in the past couple years, so I'm really not looking to go back to school but I'd like to pivot careers. I'd rather learn skills on the job (I retain them better that way too), But yes, I can't deal with the same sunless cubicle, the annoying face people who force you to work their way instead of what works better for you, the constant meetings (how many meetings I've sat in thinking, WTF am I here, I should just walk out...), and on and on... I can't do it anymore.

My shoulders aren't permanently stuck to my ears from stress, I've been able to relax and get work done as its needed, and not randomly click my mouse to make it sound like I'm working. I can find time to exercise instead of sitting in rush hour traffic, I'm mentally and physically so much better from the year of not having to sit in that shiat office.

If I had any guarantee I could find a job I could stomach soon, I'd just up and quit. But alas, the job searches are not showing that's the case just yet.
 
2021-06-14 3:08:52 PM  
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2021-06-14 3:09:13 PM  

OptionC: Good.  We've had two decades of the quit-rate being super low, even when the economy has been relatively good.  When people overall are more willing to leave their jobs and find something else to do (whether it's another job or not), it will drive upward pressure on wages and increase overall happiness.


Yep.  Although in two stages (my perspective).  From the dot-com bubble in 2000 to 2008, wages were stagnant, but at least roughly in line with historically low inflation.  Since the 2008 crisis, employers have decided that inflation was low enough to call it a rounding error and pretend that it's been zero for 12 years.  But it hasn't been zero for 12 years... it's been an average of around 1.8% for those 12 years.  And a lot.. a LOT.. of job lines are paying exactly what they did in 2008... maybe 3-5% more nominally... which is to say fully 15-20% less in real buying power.  The slow-boiled frogs never jumped.  But, maybe a > 5% year-on-year price increase will finally break that cycle.
 
2021-06-14 3:41:14 PM  
My (now former) employer pulled this one weird trick, that forced me to quit.

I was a W-2 employee with them, for 8 years.  They'd laid me off just prior to the pandemic ... split the company into two entities ... then re-hired me with the 'new' portion of the company a few months ago, as a 1099 employee.  I was told this would just be for a few weeks ... which then became a few months.

When it became obvious there was no intention to return me to W-2 status, I bailed.

/no, I don't have anything else lined up
//but I do have a full year's worth of expenses in liquid savings, and zero debt
 
2021-06-14 3:56:30 PM  
I'm thinking about changing trades. Watched all my co workers leave or get laid off, I got hired at the start of the pandemic when I moved.

Might be my last job in HVAC. Wouldn't mind trying my hand at something new and I've done Bartending. Water Filtration/Purification. Market Research, Bartending and serving. Insurance Plan Setup and claims, Interned at a Brewery years ago. Managed Retail, did pneumatics briefly, have done warehousing and factory work.

I dunno. I'm bored with it. There's always something new to learn
 
2021-06-14 4:03:31 PM  

syrynxx: I was unemployed for a long stretch of the Plague. I missed my paycheck more than I missed outdoors.


But i bet you didn't miss waking up early, a long commute, getting yelled at by someone less skilled than you but inexplicably in charge, and stagnant wages.
 
2021-06-14 5:45:26 PM  

GodComplex: Geotpf: Quitting a job without another one lined up (or some sort of other income) seems foolish, IMHO.

Normally yes. But when you have to start taking time off to deal with 2 hour zoom interviews regularly, the bosses start asking questions about why you're suddenly very clean cut and using your vacation more. Also, a lot of companies are rather desperate for workers so people can find other jobs pretty quick, even if their crap, should the need arise.

Quit the dumpster fire I was suffering a month ago and I'm going back to school myself. I don't regret the decision at all.


...and the 15-30mins creating accounts for everyone's Applicant Tracking Systems.
 
2021-06-14 7:26:50 PM  
My wife just got a new job today, so getting a kick. Left teaching after a decade of service, COVID was the final straw.
 
2021-06-14 7:43:58 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: OptionC: majestic: So I said fark it and waited out my non-compete for a year.

Your non-compete was very likely unenforceable unless they were paying you to sit on your thumbs.

Only in California.

Generally, all it takes is a call to the new company informing them of the non compete to have the job offer withdrawn.

Remember when Jimmy John's started forcing their employees to sign non competes?



Jimmy John is a certifiable d-bag. He and I have mutual friends, but I want nothing to do with him.
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2021-06-14 7:45:41 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: It is too important for work. As long as the work still gets done and I don't have to do it then its good.


Are you my former co-worker named Helen?
 
2021-06-14 7:57:54 PM  

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Cool some more stores, Karl
 
2021-06-14 8:02:31 PM  

KidKorporate: kmfjd: [Fark user image image 557x806]

Cool some more stores, Karl


Some = burn.  I'll see myself out.
 
2021-06-14 8:49:09 PM  

drewogatory: LOL, just quit my job 30 minutes ago. Cut up my credit cards, dropped them in a bag with my IDs and keys, handed it to a manager and walked off. Wife is PISSED.


I did something similar, and my long-term, live-in girlfriend was furious. I tried to explain that there's only so much sh*t I will take before pushing back, and that's why I didn't discuss it with her first.

It was easier to deal with an angry woman than having to spend 50 hours per week with multiple assholes.
 
2021-06-14 8:55:55 PM  

majestic: I'll probably have to since that is what I've done for the last 25 years.


How is that even possible?
 
2021-06-14 8:56:25 PM  

dickfreckle: drewogatory: LOL, just quit my job 30 minutes ago. Cut up my credit cards, dropped them in a bag with my IDs and keys, handed it to a manager and walked off. Wife is PISSED.

I did something similar, and my long-term, live-in girlfriend was furious. I tried to explain that there's only so much sh*t I will take before pushing back, and that's why I didn't discuss it with her first.

It was easier to deal with an angry woman than having to spend 50 hours per week with multiple assholes.


Complication: My wife works there too, although she wasn't there today. But I was topped out there, no more money, just more PTO accumulated. Plus, I'm the facilities manager, yet have had to cook on weekends for years now because they can't hire at what they want to pay. So, because I have experience I was drafted to cover "temporarily". Yeah, if I'm cooking it's going to involve booze and drugs, not in a care home setting.
 
2021-06-14 8:59:23 PM  

GoldSpider: majestic: I'll probably have to since that is what I've done for the last 25 years.

How is that even possible?


How is what possible? That I've been in the same line of work for 25+ years? Or that if I want to make decent money again I'll have to go back to what I know? I picked up welding a couple of months ago. I really doubt anyone is going to pay me six figures to weld things together badly.
 
2021-06-14 10:29:39 PM  

dickfreckle: drewogatory: LOL, just quit my job 30 minutes ago. Cut up my credit cards, dropped them in a bag with my IDs and keys, handed it to a manager and walked off. Wife is PISSED.

I did something similar, and my long-term, live-in girlfriend was furious. I tried to explain that there's only so much sh*t I will take before pushing back, and that's why I didn't discuss it with her first.

It was easier to deal with an angry woman than having to spend 50 hours per week with multiple assholes.


Update: Just been informed that A: house had better be spotless every damn day, B: I'd better be sober before 17:00 weekdays, and C: I'm getting added to her insurance, and I'm paying the difference in her checks. Also, she updated my resume and e-mailed it to me. I dunno FARK, do you think this is some kind of a hint or something? I'm bad at reading the room.
 
2021-06-15 12:41:04 AM  

majestic: That I've been in the same line of work for 25+ years?


That makes more sense.  I figured when you said "same job" you meant that literally.
 
2021-06-15 4:46:33 AM  

drewogatory: dickfreckle: drewogatory: LOL, just quit my job 30 minutes ago. Cut up my credit cards, dropped them in a bag with my IDs and keys, handed it to a manager and walked off. Wife is PISSED.

I did something similar, and my long-term, live-in girlfriend was furious. I tried to explain that there's only so much sh*t I will take before pushing back, and that's why I didn't discuss it with her first.

It was easier to deal with an angry woman than having to spend 50 hours per week with multiple assholes.

Update: Just been informed that A: house had better be spotless every damn day, B: I'd better be sober before 17:00 weekdays, and C: I'm getting added to her insurance, and I'm paying the difference in her checks. Also, she updated my resume and e-mailed it to me. I dunno FARK, do you think this is some kind of a hint or something? I'm bad at reading the room.


And she didn't discuss it with you first?!?
 
2021-06-15 7:37:32 AM  

drewogatory: dickfreckle: drewogatory: LOL, just quit my job 30 minutes ago. Cut up my credit cards, dropped them in a bag with my IDs and keys, handed it to a manager and walked off. Wife is PISSED.

I did something similar, and my long-term, live-in girlfriend was furious. I tried to explain that there's only so much sh*t I will take before pushing back, and that's why I didn't discuss it with her first.

It was easier to deal with an angry woman than having to spend 50 hours per week with multiple assholes.

Update: Just been informed that A: house had better be spotless every damn day, B: I'd better be sober before 17:00 weekdays, and C: I'm getting added to her insurance, and I'm paying the difference in her checks. Also, she updated my resume and e-mailed it to me. I dunno FARK, do you think this is some kind of a hint or something? I'm bad at reading the room.


Oh hell yes. That house better be perfect when she gets home. Your new job is to keep that place spotless, bathe the dog, cook her favorite meals, etc. If she wants a RomCom on Netflix you better just suck it up.

I'm my case.i found another gig within a few weeks, and in the meantime my savings were helping. But wow was she pissed.
 
2021-06-15 2:31:36 PM  

dickfreckle: drewogatory: dickfreckle: drewogatory: LOL, just quit my job 30 minutes ago. Cut up my credit cards, dropped them in a bag with my IDs and keys, handed it to a manager and walked off. Wife is PISSED.

I did something similar, and my long-term, live-in girlfriend was furious. I tried to explain that there's only so much sh*t I will take before pushing back, and that's why I didn't discuss it with her first.

It was easier to deal with an angry woman than having to spend 50 hours per week with multiple assholes.

Update: Just been informed that A: house had better be spotless every damn day, B: I'd better be sober before 17:00 weekdays, and C: I'm getting added to her insurance, and I'm paying the difference in her checks. Also, she updated my resume and e-mailed it to me. I dunno FARK, do you think this is some kind of a hint or something? I'm bad at reading the room.

Oh hell yes. That house better be perfect when she gets home. Your new job is to keep that place spotless, bathe the dog, cook her favorite meals, etc. If she wants a RomCom on Netflix you better just suck it up.

I'm my case.i found another gig within a few weeks, and in the meantime my savings were helping. But wow was she pissed.


And if he doesn't get a better paying job, no matter the conditions, he's gonna get cucked and/or tossed out on his ass and/or divorced and owing two lifetimes worth of income to his wife as alimony.

Tick tock, tick tock
 
2021-06-15 2:41:33 PM  

Suflig: dickfreckle: drewogatory: dickfreckle: drewogatory: LOL, just quit my job 30 minutes ago. Cut up my credit cards, dropped them in a bag with my IDs and keys, handed it to a manager and walked off. Wife is PISSED.

I did something similar, and my long-term, live-in girlfriend was furious. I tried to explain that there's only so much sh*t I will take before pushing back, and that's why I didn't discuss it with her first.

It was easier to deal with an angry woman than having to spend 50 hours per week with multiple assholes.

Update: Just been informed that A: house had better be spotless every damn day, B: I'd better be sober before 17:00 weekdays, and C: I'm getting added to her insurance, and I'm paying the difference in her checks. Also, she updated my resume and e-mailed it to me. I dunno FARK, do you think this is some kind of a hint or something? I'm bad at reading the room.

Oh hell yes. That house better be perfect when she gets home. Your new job is to keep that place spotless, bathe the dog, cook her favorite meals, etc. If she wants a RomCom on Netflix you better just suck it up.

I'm my case.i found another gig within a few weeks, and in the meantime my savings were helping. But wow was she pissed.

And if he doesn't get a better paying job, no matter the conditions, he's gonna get cucked and/or tossed out on his ass and/or divorced and owing two lifetimes worth of income to his wife as alimony.

Tick tock, tick tock


Luckily she makes more than twice what I made, and most of the jobs I applied to this AM start at $15K more than I was making. I was taking a voluntary salary hit working at a non profit for medical basically because most of my income came from elsewhere. Covid changed that of course.
 
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