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(History Channel)   On this day in history, in 1968, Dr. Spock was illogically convicted for helping draft resisters live long and prosper   (history.com) divider line
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2021-06-14 12:19:10 PM  
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2021-06-14 12:26:23 PM  
Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?
 
2021-06-14 12:26:56 PM  
Of course he was convicted. He was obviously evil.
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2021-06-14 12:27:59 PM  
He wrote a book on raising healthy babies, he didn't want to see them go off to die in a pointless war.
 
2021-06-14 12:28:02 PM  
ftfa FRONTLINE:
A Federal District Court jury in Boston convicts Dr. Benjamin Spock and three others, including Yale University Chaplain William Sloane Coffin, Jr., of conspiring to aid, abet and counsel draft registrants to violate the Selective Service Act.

A priest -- helping draft dodgers

/quelle surprise
 
2021-06-14 12:28:10 PM  
/ born in the age of "Doctor Spock says...."
// long before that pointy-eared freak
/// not that my parents paid much attention
 
2021-06-14 12:28:58 PM  
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2021-06-14 12:29:10 PM  
This is fascinatingly illogical.
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2021-06-14 12:30:34 PM  

Spice Must Flow: This is fascinatingly illogical.
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Red Shirt with pink eye in the left eye?

That's Multiple danger signs.
 
2021-06-14 12:31:45 PM  
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Dabbled in pacifism.
Not in 'Nam of course.
 
2021-06-14 12:33:43 PM  
Dafuq is a "draft resister"?  Is that like a diode?
 
2021-06-14 12:35:11 PM  
No "Hero" tag?
 
2021-06-14 12:36:44 PM  

Be polite walk on the right: A priest -- helping draft dodgers


No - he helped draft resisters.
Those were people who openly, honestly, consistently opposed the war and the draft, and refused to submit to the latter.
Donald Trump, by comparison, was an actual draft dodger.
A lying, cowardly white right wing scum who supported the war and rooted for it, but purchased a phony excuse to get out of the draft legally.
It would be extremely dishonest, intellectually, to equate the two types of people.
 
2021-06-14 12:36:54 PM  
Spock was one of the original signers of A Call to Resist Illegitimate Authority

At first I was like, "I've never heard of that song . . ."

/I blame it on the resisters
 
2021-06-14 12:37:12 PM  
I literally owe my life to the Vietnam War.   My father left the country because of the draft, and met my mother outside the U.S.  But-for the draft, he'd have remained here.   So yeah... thanks military industrial complex!
 
2021-06-14 12:37:12 PM  
So, what did he actually do?  Tell people how to answer questions to get a psychological 4F?
 
2021-06-14 12:38:30 PM  
The need of the many outweighed the needs of the one.
 
2021-06-14 12:38:44 PM  

mikaloyd: Dafuq is a "draft resister"?  Is that like a diode?


It's when two female twins separated at birth are reunited while sliding sideways around a curve in a race car.
 
2021-06-14 12:41:52 PM  

mikaloyd: Dafuq is a "draft resister"?  Is that like a diode?


That hurt right in the grey hairs.
 
2021-06-14 12:45:27 PM  
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2021-06-14 12:50:47 PM  
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me exactly which specific "freedoms at home" would've been lost if the U.S. hadn't intervened in Vietnam.
 
2021-06-14 12:56:48 PM  

sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?


No. This is a resistor.
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2021-06-14 12:59:40 PM  
THX 1138

After WWII, the US told other countries that if the Commies started to bother them, give us a call, we will take care of it for you.
 
2021-06-14 1:05:23 PM  

Warthog: I literally owe my life to the Vietnam War.   My father left the country because of the draft, and met my mother outside the U.S.  But-for the draft, he'd have remained here.   So yeah... thanks military industrial complex!


I interviewed my grandparents while they were alive. Apparently my genealogy is several generations of avoiding conscription.

Somehow I volunteered. Love my country but Vietnam was a slaughterhouse.
 
2021-06-14 1:08:10 PM  
How does one help draft a resister? I would have thought they'd resist.
 
2021-06-14 1:15:18 PM  

InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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It still looks wrong to me.
 
2021-06-14 1:17:28 PM  

InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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Bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly.
-compliments of USAF electronics training
 
2021-06-14 1:18:13 PM  
I see no problems helping people who have deep moral or religious objections to fighting in a war. I might not always agree with them but I can understand where it comes from. I do object to rich cowards avoiding the draft, however.
 
2021-06-14 1:19:22 PM  

THX 1138: I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me exactly which specific "freedoms at home" would've been lost if the U.S. hadn't intervened in Vietnam.


So I guess youd be ok with the King of Vietnam coming over here and pushing you around whenever he feels like it?
 
2021-06-14 1:23:14 PM  

stamped human bacon: InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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Bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly.
-compliments of USAF electronics training


I learned it in my high school Electricity class.  I was the first girl ever to take that class, so they hadn't switched it to something more appropriate yet.
 
2021-06-14 1:33:33 PM  

stamped human bacon: InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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Bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly.
-compliments of USAF electronics training


Men who come up with stuff like this are the same men who loudly declare that the gender wage gap is a myth.
 
2021-06-14 1:58:31 PM  
I always have mixed feelings about this kind of thing.  If you find a war immoral then I can see justification in helping others avoid the draft.  That said, too many of these war resistors only seemed motivated to stand on principle when they were helping a wealthy client who could compensate them for their assistance.
 
2021-06-14 2:04:56 PM  

stamped human bacon: InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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Bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly.
-compliments of USAF electronics training


Bad booze rots our young guts but vodak goes well.

Don't forget the % tolerance stripe: "get some now."
 
2021-06-14 2:29:42 PM  

winedrinkingman: I always have mixed feelings about this kind of thing.  If you find a war immoral then I can see justification in helping others avoid the draft.  That said, too many of these war resistors only seemed motivated to stand on principle when they were helping a wealthy client who could compensate them for their assistance.


I don't doubt that happened.  But that doesn't appear to be remotely the case in point.
 
2021-06-14 2:34:07 PM  

winedrinkingman: I always have mixed feelings about this kind of thing.  If you find a war immoral then I can see justification in helping others avoid the draft.  That said, too many of these war resistors only seemed motivated to stand on principle when they were helping a wealthy client who could compensate them for their assistance.


Draft resistance people were the ones who fled to Canada, or burned their selective service cards, or simply stood there and said NO, the ones risking jail who knew it.  Mainly poor people.

The draft dodgers were the ones who stayed in school, or taught girl's volleyball in Sweden, or did missionary work overseas, or had their parents/benefactors pay for or arrange deferments.  Mainly wealthy and privileged people.  Two different crowds.
 
2021-06-14 2:36:20 PM  
Mr. Spock vs Dr. Spock.
 
2021-06-14 2:40:01 PM  
He famously said, "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong."

Or maybe that was someone else.
 
2021-06-14 2:53:43 PM  

sxacho: InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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It still looks wrong to me.


That's because the word "resister" is almost never used these days. I'm guessing it wasn't used much back during the war, either - they were more often called draft dodgers.
 
2021-06-14 3:21:39 PM  

Spice Must Flow: This is fascinatingly illogical.
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Was she one of the founders of that sex cult?
 
2021-06-14 3:32:21 PM  

austerity101: stamped human bacon: InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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Bad boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly.
-compliments of USAF electronics training

Men who come up with stuff like this are the same men who loudly declare that the gender wage gap is a myth.


Black Beer Rots Our Young Guts But Vodka Goes Well--Get Some Now

BTW, I sometimes see what looks like a pride flag but it begins with black and brown stripes, i.e., resistor code less gray and white.  What's with that?
 
2021-06-14 3:59:58 PM  
No Viet Cong ever called me Vulger.
 
2021-06-14 4:02:44 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: No Viet Cong ever called me Vulger.


Yeah... you don't speak Vietnamese, do you?
 
2021-06-14 4:16:16 PM  

cyberspacedout: sxacho: InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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It still looks wrong to me.

That's because the word "resister" is almost never used these days. I'm guessing it wasn't used much back during the war, either - they were more often called draft dodgers.


Um, one major anti-war and antidraft groups did use an omega as their logo.

I got out, and have my own version of Alice's Restaurant. They *really* didn't want me.
 
2021-06-14 4:40:04 PM  

whitroth: I got out, and have my own version of Alice's Restaurant. They *really* didn't want me.


Father raper or mother stabber?
 
2021-06-14 5:42:47 PM  

THX 1138: I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me exactly which specific "freedoms at home" would've been lost if the U.S. hadn't intervened in Vietnam.


Cold War history is very complicated. The overall idea was to fight the spread of communism. Our politicians didn't necessarily understand the difference between the soviets and the Chinese. It is probably a good thing that we won the cold War, as russia is not as powerful now as they would have been. And, in hindsight, we now know that we should have worked harder to push the Chinese towards democracy before they became as powerful as they are today. Vietnam was likely the wrong war in the wrong place, but it was part of a larger effort to democratize the world.
 
2021-06-14 6:12:47 PM  
I actually met the dude. Well, my mom did. When I was about six, we were walking in Central Park over near the rowboat lake and pavilion, when we ran into him. My mom was a fan, and her SQUEEEEE was audible in Wall Street. That's why I remember it. I recall her mentioning that I'd been raised according to the Baby and Childcare book, and him saying something to the effect of, "well, he seems normal...".
 
2021-06-14 6:16:40 PM  

Pestifer: I actually met the dude. Well, my mom did. When I was about six, we were walking in Central Park over near the rowboat lake and pavilion, when we ran into him. My mom was a fan, and her SQUEEEEE was audible in Wall Street. That's why I remember it. I recall her mentioning that I'd been raised according to the Baby and Childcare book, and him saying something to the effect of, "well, he seems normal...".


My mother was a pretty big fan of his.  That is until her second son died in his crib in his sleep.  On his belly as Spock recommended.
 
2021-06-14 6:23:36 PM  

whitroth: cyberspacedout: sxacho: InfoFreako: sxacho: Resisters doesn't look right. Resistors?

No. This is a resistor.
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It still looks wrong to me.

That's because the word "resister" is almost never used these days. I'm guessing it wasn't used much back during the war, either - they were more often called draft dodgers.

Um, one major anti-war and antidraft groups did use an omega as their logo.

I got out, and have my own version of Alice's Restaurant. They *really* didn't want me.


Is it the same thing that keeps you arguing the wrong end of a debate way past the end of a Fark thread's "best by" date?
 
2021-06-14 7:13:05 PM  

MythDragon: Of course he was convicted. He was obviously evil.
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The mirror universe Spock was not evil.  He was "a man of integrity in both universes".
 
2021-06-14 7:49:47 PM  

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"I'd greatly appreciate it if you didn't fire those near my ears."
 
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