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2021-06-14 2:01:58 PM  
It's actually been here a while, but UEFA and FIFA usually condemn all things political, so it's nice to see they tolerated this - and even encouraged it.

I was at the Hertha-Schalke game where this happened in October 2018:
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Nobody booed. The world gets it.
 
2021-06-14 4:16:38 PM  
Thanks, subby. I've been watching Euro this week, and have noticed as well. Always curious to the hows and whys some fans oppose this, Semiotics, some people can't get past them.
 
2021-06-14 4:35:45 PM  

Two Dogs Farking: It's actually been here a while, but UEFA and FIFA usually condemn all things political, so it's nice to see they tolerated this - and even encouraged it.

I was at the Hertha-Schalke game where this happened in October 2018:
[bz-berlin.de image 768x432]

Nobody booed. The world gets it.


Didn't England's team get booed for this recently?
 
2021-06-14 4:39:18 PM  
What, did they have a washed-up captain complain he's being denied a chance to play, despite multiple chances to try out, while realizing he could make more money and not get physically hurt by race-baiting an entire country, and getting disadvantaged people to buy his $200 shoes made by actual slaves?
 
2021-06-14 4:46:02 PM  

Catsaregreen: What, did they have a washed-up captain complain he's being denied a chance to play, despite multiple chances to try out, while realizing he could make more money and not get physically hurt by race-baiting an entire country, and getting disadvantaged people to buy his $200 shoes made by actual slaves?


100% of people who have a problem with Kaepernick's stance are racist.  Not 90%.  Not 99.9%.  100%.
 
2021-06-14 5:00:14 PM  

LL316: Catsaregreen: What, did they have a washed-up captain complain he's being denied a chance to play, despite multiple chances to try out, while realizing he could make more money and not get physically hurt by race-baiting an entire country, and getting disadvantaged people to buy his $200 shoes made by actual slaves?

100% of people who have a problem with Kaepernick's stance are racist.  Not 90%.  Not 99.9%.  100%.


And you ever notice that they completely lie about the situation and try to use debunked talking points as there proof.
 
2021-06-14 5:06:10 PM  

LL316: Catsaregreen: What, did they have a washed-up captain complain he's being denied a chance to play, despite multiple chances to try out, while realizing he could make more money and not get physically hurt by race-baiting an entire country, and getting disadvantaged people to buy his $200 shoes made by actual slaves?

100% of people who have a problem with Kaepernick's stance are racist.  Not 90%.  Not 99.9%.  100%.


Is it even possible for an individual to take issue with anything pertaining to Colin Kaepernick and not have such a person be declared racist by default in your eyes?
 
2021-06-14 5:11:06 PM  
Footballers in the Premier League did this for what, 38 straight league matches?
 
2021-06-14 5:27:22 PM  
I was wondering when this topic would pop up on Fark.

TFA misses the whole picture in Europe; there is a whole segment who thinks BLM is Marxist or leftist, but there is a large segment that says, "This is America's problem, our police officers aren't killing black people. We didn't have slavery. Stop trying to copy America." Then it's usually followed by, "We don't even have black people here, why are players kneeling for BLM?"

So TFA mentions, Belgium, England, Spain a few others are kneeling and have multicultural countries (with 1st generation players on the teams) - they get it, players have likely experienced racism first hand. Then you have Russia, Hungary, I'll throw in Czech - they are not kneeling, but doing some other gesture against racism. They are not multicultural and there is a not a history of immigration. So there is a disconnect or lack of a multicultural society where these topics come up regularly and by not kneeling, they are being called racist.

Then of course you have the fact that it's supported by UEFA, so a large number of fans will just call them the UEFA Mafia for any action they take and dismiss any type of campaign just based on the UEFA name.

// Rant over
// Fark if I know how to fix it
 
2021-06-14 5:31:25 PM  
As long as they are finished by August, so 45 can focus on real sports when he is back in office.
 
2021-06-14 5:38:12 PM  

Nana's Vibrator: Footballers in the Premier League did this for what, 38 straight league matches?


notably while there were no fans in the stadium. As soon as they started allowing the fans back in, the booing of it started. Not everywhere, but not nowhere.
 
2021-06-14 6:25:13 PM  

mjbok: Two Dogs Farking: It's actually been here a while, but UEFA and FIFA usually condemn all things political, so it's nice to see they tolerated this - and even encouraged it.

I was at the Hertha-Schalke game where this happened in October 2018:
[bz-berlin.de image 768x432]

Nobody booed. The world gets it.

Didn't England's team get booed for this recently?


In England, the blowback has been from "fans" who take the "that's an American problem" and "it's a far-left political machine" stance that Cajnik mentioned above. There's been politicians doing their best to frame it that way so the protests are misconstrued.

The minority English players suffer the most vile abuse and everything they try is lambasted by those "fans". Media boycott? "He's a weak link and not worthy of the shirt. Coward." Speak up? "How dare he?! He's got a cushy lifestyle that we could only dream of!" So of course they'd be offended by a very visible silent protest. Can't exactly claim they're being uncivilized savages, so now they're copycat wannabe-commies disrespecting the flag.

There's also a chunk of people who are very xenophobic and proud of it. Like the scum at Millwall.

/Marcus Rashford spoke up about child hunger during lockdown and how Boris Johnson was doing nothing to help
//of course the tabloids dug up personal info about him to attack with
///Rashford ended up doing more with his community initiative that BoJo did
 
2021-06-14 6:35:06 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: mjbok: Two Dogs Farking: It's actually been here a while, but UEFA and FIFA usually condemn all things political, so it's nice to see they tolerated this - and even encouraged it.

I was at the Hertha-Schalke game where this happened in October 2018:
[bz-berlin.de image 768x432]

Nobody booed. The world gets it.

Didn't England's team get booed for this recently?

In England, the blowback has been from "fans" who take the "that's an American problem" and "it's a far-left political machine" stance that Cajnik mentioned above. There's been politicians doing their best to frame it that way so the protests are misconstrued.

The minority English players suffer the most vile abuse and everything they try is lambasted by those "fans". Media boycott? "He's a weak link and not worthy of the shirt. Coward." Speak up? "How dare he?! He's got a cushy lifestyle that we could only dream of!" So of course they'd be offended by a very visible silent protest. Can't exactly claim they're being uncivilized savages, so now they're copycat wannabe-commies disrespecting the flag.

There's also a chunk of people who are very xenophobic and proud of it. Like the scum at Millwall.

/Marcus Rashford spoke up about child hunger during lockdown and how Boris Johnson was doing nothing to help
//of course the tabloids dug up personal info about him to attack with
///Rashford ended up doing more with his community initiative that BoJo did


I'm finding that the only difference between England and the US seems to be that they were able to get all their progressive legislation in before they let the right-wing wackos take over
 
2021-06-14 6:51:33 PM  

Princip's Sandwich: /Marcus Rashford spoke up about child hunger during lockdown and how Boris Johnson was doing nothing to help
//of course the tabloids dug up personal info about him to attack with
///Rashford ended up doing more with his community initiative that BoJo did


That was the one that got me. You'd think child hunger would be a-political, especially when it was laid out so clearly.
"These kids only get their food at school and schools are shut, can we figure something out?"

"Waaahahgrable!!1!"
 
2021-06-14 9:28:13 PM  
So Europeans are disrespecting the troops as well?
 
2021-06-15 8:40:55 AM  

WoodyHayes: LL316: Catsaregreen: What, did they have a washed-up captain complain he's being denied a chance to play, despite multiple chances to try out, while realizing he could make more money and not get physically hurt by race-baiting an entire country, and getting disadvantaged people to buy his $200 shoes made by actual slaves?

100% of people who have a problem with Kaepernick's stance are racist.  Not 90%.  Not 99.9%.  100%.

Is it even possible for an individual to take issue with anything pertaining to Colin Kaepernick and not have such a person be declared racist by default in your eyes?


Anything?  Sure.  He was too streaky of a QB for my tastes.  But nothing in regards to the stance he's taking can possibly be seen as anything but positive.  Unless you hate black people and want them to continue being choked to death by police.
 
2021-06-15 9:07:24 AM  

LL316: WoodyHayes: LL316: Catsaregreen: What, did they have a washed-up captain complain he's being denied a chance to play, despite multiple chances to try out, while realizing he could make more money and not get physically hurt by race-baiting an entire country, and getting disadvantaged people to buy his $200 shoes made by actual slaves?

100% of people who have a problem with Kaepernick's stance are racist.  Not 90%.  Not 99.9%.  100%.

Is it even possible for an individual to take issue with anything pertaining to Colin Kaepernick and not have such a person be declared racist by default in your eyes?

Anything?  Sure.  He was too streaky of a QB for my tastes.  But nothing in regards to the stance he's taking can possibly be seen as anything but positive.  Unless you hate black people and want them to continue being choked to death by police.


Consider for a moment the conclusion that your words arrive at, give it a moment to sink in. What you're positing is that there can be no valid criticism made of Colin Kaepernick off the field due to anything negative said possessing the status of being inherently racist and is therefore deemed to be invalid out of the gate.
 
2021-06-15 10:08:30 AM  

WoodyHayes: LL316: WoodyHayes: LL316: Catsaregreen: What, did they have a washed-up captain complain he's being denied a chance to play, despite multiple chances to try out, while realizing he could make more money and not get physically hurt by race-baiting an entire country, and getting disadvantaged people to buy his $200 shoes made by actual slaves?

100% of people who have a problem with Kaepernick's stance are racist.  Not 90%.  Not 99.9%.  100%.

Is it even possible for an individual to take issue with anything pertaining to Colin Kaepernick and not have such a person be declared racist by default in your eyes?

Anything?  Sure.  He was too streaky of a QB for my tastes.  But nothing in regards to the stance he's taking can possibly be seen as anything but positive.Unless you hate black people and want them to continue being choked to death by police.

Consider for a moment the conclusion that your words arrive at, give it a moment to sink in. What you're positing is that there can be no valid criticism made of Colin Kaepernick off the field due to anything negative said possessing the status of being inherently racist and is therefore deemed to be invalid out of the gate.


I'm quite clearly not.
 
2021-06-15 12:06:09 PM  

LL316: WoodyHayes: LL316: WoodyHayes: LL316: Catsaregreen: What, did they have a washed-up captain complain he's being denied a chance to play, despite multiple chances to try out, while realizing he could make more money and not get physically hurt by race-baiting an entire country, and getting disadvantaged people to buy his $200 shoes made by actual slaves?

100% of people who have a problem with Kaepernick's stance are racist.  Not 90%.  Not 99.9%.  100%.

Is it even possible for an individual to take issue with anything pertaining to Colin Kaepernick and not have such a person be declared racist by default in your eyes?

Anything?  Sure.  He was too streaky of a QB for my tastes.  But nothing in regards to the stance he's taking can possibly be seen as anything but positive.Unless you hate black people and want them to continue being choked to death by police.

Consider for a moment the conclusion that your words arrive at, give it a moment to sink in. What you're positing is that there can be no valid criticism made of Colin Kaepernick off the field due to anything negative said possessing the status of being inherently racist and is therefore deemed to be invalid out of the gate.

I'm quite clearly not.


Are we reading the same words?
 
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