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2021-06-13 3:32:55 AM  
I don't know which -- if any -- headlines in the queue will go green, but I wanted to start a thread on today's change of Israeli government.

The headline means "It's happeningggggggggggggggggg" in Hebrew. The link goes to the Times of Israel's live news blog.

A quick rundown of the day's planned events (Israeli time -- which is EST +7):

2 p.m. - Prime Minister-designate Naftali Bennett will meet with the leaders of the "change bloc" coalition parties. The meeting will take place in the Yamina party's faction room in the Knesset and will be closed to the press.

3 p.m. - The parties slated to enter the coalition will meet individually.

4 p.m. - The Knesset convenes. Bennett and partner Yair Lapid will present the government and its guiding principles. Netanyahu, the prospective leader of the opposition, is also expected to speak. All party representatives will have an opportunity to speak. Parliament will then vote on the new government.
Following the session, members of the newly installed government will head to the President's Residence for the traditional group photograph of ministers with outgoing President Reuven Rivlin, who will end his seven-year term on July 9.

8:30 p.m. - A celebratory meeting, closed to the press, will be held in the Knesset's Chagall Hall.

9 p.m. - A celebratory inaugural cabinet meeting will be held in the Knesset's Jerusalem hall at 9 p.m., and will be open to the press.
 
2021-06-13 4:14:52 AM  
God, 12 farking years.

Seems like longer.
 
2021-06-13 6:02:58 AM  
ירוקקקקקקקקקק

יששששששששש
 
2021-06-13 6:17:52 AM  
From the Times of Israel:

Bennett's office says his message to the US during his planned inaugural address as prime minister will be "positive and one of cooperation."

He will thank US President Joe Biden for his support of Israel during the recent Gaza operation.

However, Bennett, like Netanyahu before him, will voice staunch opposition to a return to the Iran nuclear deal.
 
2021-06-13 6:22:00 AM  
And some medical drama:

Meanwhile, MK Emilie Moatti of Labor is hospitalized to undergo a spinal tap, but will arrive for the vote while under treatment.

(He will vote yes to the government.)

Religious Zionism's far-right MK Itamar Ben Gvir has been lightly injured in a car crash in the north.
Ben Gvir refuses to be taken to a hospital, as he does not wish to miss today's Knesset vote on the new government.

(He will vote no. His party is a group of far-right ones such as Noam, whose main goal is to advance policies against LGBT rights.)
 
2021-06-13 7:08:57 AM  

bostonguy: The headline means "It's happeningggggggggggggggggg"


Hmm I couldn't quite figure it out but I suspected something must have been the case.

I voted for Prince Adam.
 
2021-06-13 7:11:56 AM  

casual disregard: bostonguy: The headline means "It's happeningggggggggggggggggg"

Hmm I couldn't quite figure it out but I suspected something must have been the case.

I voted for Prince Adam.


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2021-06-13 7:12:38 AM  
And for those who are interested, here is a very detailed breakdown of the domestic and foreign policies of the incoming government, based on the coalition agreements between the right, center, left, and Islamist parties.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/whats-i​n​side-coalition-agreements-yesh-atid-si​gned-with-change-bloc-partners/
 
2021-06-13 7:12:52 AM  
I'm not commentating on this because I do not want to...
 
2021-06-13 7:13:22 AM  
A little something I made for the occasion.....


BibiBlues
Youtube LsGGLBfXiYU
 
2021-06-13 7:15:47 AM  
Shouldn't god decide?

Or is it, let god sort them out?
 
2021-06-13 7:15:53 AM  
More insight into the policies of the new government.

I'll paste the part on the Palestinian and Iran issues, since that seems to be of particular interest to people:

The coalition holds only a slight majority in the 120-member Knesset and includes parties from the right, left and center. Each party signed a coalition agreement ahead of a Friday deadline, keeping the transition on track.
But just about the only things they agree on are that Netanyahu, who is on trial for corruption, should leave office, and that the country cannot endure another back-to-back election.

They are expected to adopt a modest agenda acceptable to Israelis from across the ideological divide that steers clear of hot-button issues.

Managing the conflict

Bennett is a religious ultranationalist who supports settlement expansion and is opposed to a Palestinian state. But he risks losing his job if he alienates his dovish coalition partners.

That will likely mean a continuation of Netanyahu's approach of managing the decades-old conflict without trying to end it. Annexing the West Bank and invading Gaza are probably off the table, but so are any major concessions to the Palestinians.

Every Israeli government has expanded Jewish settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which Israel captured in the 1967 war and which the Palestinians want for their future state. This government is expected to do so in a subdued way that avoids angering the Biden administration, which is pushing for restraint and an eventual revival of peace talks...

The new government is expected to maintain Netanyahu's hard-line stance on Iran and oppose US President Joe Biden's efforts to revive its international nuclear deal. But senior officials have already vowed to do so behind closed doors rather than bringing the rift out into the open, as Netanyahu did during the Obama years.
The new government will also likely work with Biden to strengthen ties with Arab states.
 
2021-06-13 7:16:41 AM  

bostonguy: The headline means "It's happeningggggggggggggggggg" in Hebrew


Google translate told me it means "It's happening hahahahahahahahaha" which works for me as well.
 
2021-06-13 7:17:24 AM  
I'd wait until it's over to begin the celebrations.  Bibi cut his teeth in my neck of the woods, and here, it ain't over until it's over.
 
2021-06-13 7:17:42 AM  

Winterlight: bostonguy: The headline means "It's happeningggggggggggggggggg" in Hebrew

Google translate told me it means "It's happening hahahahahahahahaha" which works for me as well.


That's funny!
 
2021-06-13 7:19:00 AM  
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RIP Ra'am MK

 
2021-06-13 7:23:18 AM  

bostonguy: The headline means "It's happeningggggggggggggggggg" in Hebrew. The link goes to the Times of Israel's live news blog.


Darn, it thought it was Hebrew for:
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2021-06-13 7:23:31 AM  
!לחיים
 
2021-06-13 7:23:41 AM  

bostonguy: I don't know which -- if any -- headlines in the queue will go green, but I wanted to start a thread on today's change of Israeli government.

The headline means "It's happeningggggggggggggggggg" in Hebrew. The link goes to the Times of Israel's live news blog.

A quick rundown of the day's planned events (Israeli time -- which is EST +7):

2 p.m. - Prime Minister-designate Naftali Bennett will meet with the leaders of the "change bloc" coalition parties. The meeting will take place in the Yamina party's faction room in the Knesset and will be closed to the press.

3 p.m. - The parties slated to enter the coalition will meet individually.

4 p.m. - The Knesset convenes. Bennett and partner Yair Lapid will present the government and its guiding principles. Netanyahu, the prospective leader of the opposition, is also expected to speak. All party representatives will have an opportunity to speak. Parliament will then vote on the new government.
Following the session, members of the newly installed government will head to the President's Residence for the traditional group photograph of ministers with outgoing President Reuven Rivlin, who will end his seven-year term on July 9.

8:30 p.m. - A celebratory meeting, closed to the press, will be held in the Knesset's Chagall Hall.

9 p.m. - A celebratory inaugural cabinet meeting will be held in the Knesset's Jerusalem hall at 9 p.m., and will be open to the press.


You forgot the important part about when Netanyahu is finally charged since his immunity will be lost.
 
2021-06-13 7:24:24 AM  
Quick aside to any Israel politics watchers. What happened to Israel's Labour Party? Historically they were a major force. Now they're pretty much a non-entity. How'd they piss off the electorate?
 
2021-06-13 7:30:22 AM  

thisispete: Quick aside to any Israel politics watchers. What happened to Israel's Labour Party? Historically they were a major force. Now they're pretty much a non-entity. How'd they piss off the electorate?


The two intifadas -- especially the second one with the many suicide bombings in the early 2000s -- effectively killed the "peace camp" on the center-left. They had argued that the Palestinians were partners for peace and even managed to bring them to the negotiating table (facilitated by the US).

And then it all went to hell. Ever since, many Israelis have been deeply scarred by the intifadas and no longer trust the Palestinians or "the left."
 
2021-06-13 7:30:31 AM  
זה קורה ממש ברגע זה
 
2021-06-13 7:31:35 AM  

acouvis: You forgot the important part about when Netanyahu is finally charged since his immunity will be lost.


I'm not sure he ever really and legally had immunity (outside of his own head).

But I could be wrong -- I'm not a lawyer.
 
2021-06-13 7:33:23 AM  

bostonguy: More insight into the policies of the new government.

I'll paste the part on the Palestinian and Iran issues, since that seems to be of particular interest to people:

The coalition holds only a slight majority in the 120-member Knesset and includes parties from the right, left and center. Each party signed a coalition agreement ahead of a Friday deadline, keeping the transition on track.
But just about the only things they agree on are that Netanyahu, who is on trial for corruption, should leave office, and that the country cannot endure another back-to-back election.

They are expected to adopt a modest agenda acceptable to Israelis from across the ideological divide that steers clear of hot-button issues.

Managing the conflict

Bennett is a religious ultranationalist who supports settlement expansion and is opposed to a Palestinian state. But he risks losing his job if he alienates his dovish coalition partners.

That will likely mean a continuation of Netanyahu's approach of managing the decades-old conflict without trying to end it. Annexing the West Bank and invading Gaza are probably off the table, but so are any major concessions to the Palestinians.

Every Israeli government has expanded Jewish settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, which Israel captured in the 1967 war and which the Palestinians want for their future state. This government is expected to do so in a subdued way that avoids angering the Biden administration, which is pushing for restraint and an eventual revival of peace talks...

The new government is expected to maintain Netanyahu's hard-line stance on Iran and oppose US President Joe Biden's efforts to revive its international nuclear deal. But senior officials have already vowed to do so behind closed doors rather than bringing the rift out into the open, as Netanyahu did during the Obama years.
The new government will also likely work with Biden to strengthen ties with Arab states.


I'm glad this one was greened, and thank you for the work you did on the background.
 
2021-06-13 7:34:15 AM  

bostonguy: I'm not sure he ever really and legally had immunity (outside of his own head).


Power and conviction is all he needed.  The law was beside the point.  It works the same way everywhere.
 
2021-06-13 7:34:20 AM  

born_yesterday: I'm glad this one was greened, and thank you for the work you did on the background.


Thank you, and my pleasure!
 
2021-06-13 7:35:54 AM  

bostonguy: thisispete: Quick aside to any Israel politics watchers. What happened to Israel's Labour Party? Historically they were a major force. Now they're pretty much a non-entity. How'd they piss off the electorate?

The two intifadas -- especially the second one with the many suicide bombings in the early 2000s -- effectively killed the "peace camp" on the center-left. They had argued that the Palestinians were partners for peace and even managed to bring them to the negotiating table (facilitated by the US).

And then it all went to hell. Ever since, many Israelis have been deeply scarred by the intifadas and no longer trust the Palestinians or "the left."


Thanks. I know with proportional representation, most governments in Israel will be coalitions. But that explains why there's quite a few involved in this agreement given the vacuum left behind.
 
2021-06-13 7:42:07 AM  
T-minus 80 minutes until Bibi is gone.
 
2021-06-13 7:43:01 AM  

RasIanI: T-minus 80 minutes until Bibi is gone.


* throws salt over his shoulder *
 
2021-06-13 7:45:56 AM  

RasIanI: T-minus 80 minutes until Bibi is gone.


כן יהי רצון
 
2021-06-13 7:47:02 AM  
If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?
 
2021-06-13 7:48:21 AM  

bostonguy: From the Times of Israel:

Bennett's office says his message to the US during his planned inaugural address as prime minister will be "positive and one of cooperation."

He will thank US President Joe Biden for his support of Israel during the recent Gaza operation.

However, Bennett, like Netanyahu before him, will voice staunch opposition to a return to the Iran nuclear deal.


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REG: All right, but apart from the military and scientific support, the agricultural improvements, higher education development, financial aid, and the end runs around the UN, what have the Americans ever done for us?

XERXES: Brought peace?

REG: Brought peace, oh shut up!
 
2021-06-13 7:49:16 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?


Are you kidding me?

This government has the leftist Meretz, the center-left Labor, and Islamist Ra'am. If Bennett would want to attack the Palestinians in any way excepting self-defense, one or more of those parties would withdraw and collapse the government immediately.
 
2021-06-13 7:49:43 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?


Gal Gadot will start WW3 and the living will envy the dead
 
2021-06-13 7:50:07 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?


Gaza is usually the candidate in recent times.
 
2021-06-13 7:50:32 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?


It's going to be Kiribati.Just watch.
 
2021-06-13 7:55:50 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?


Where do you live?
 
2021-06-13 8:00:55 AM  
I'm not counting any chickens until they've crossed the finish line.
 
2021-06-13 8:04:29 AM  

bostonguy: Marcus Aurelius: If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?

Are you kidding me?

This government has the leftist Meretz, the center-left Labor, and Islamist Ra'am. If Bennett would want to attack the Palestinians in any way excepting self-defense, one or more of those parties would withdraw and collapse the government immediately.


It will have to be an international target, of course. Gaza and Lebanon are Bibi's old stomping grounds, playing Hamas for a patsy.  It will have to be either Syria or Yemen.  My money is on Yemen.  Big show of solidarity with the Arab coalition.  We should hear their "reasoning" by Thursday, I think.
 
2021-06-13 8:05:02 AM  

RasIanI: Marcus Aurelius: If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?

Gaza is usually the candidate in recent times.


Bibi did Gaza.  Gaza is no good.
 
2021-06-13 8:09:26 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'd wait until it's over to begin the celebrations.  Bibi cut his teeth in my neck of the woods, and here, it ain't over until it's over.


I said the exact same thing until this morning but now It's over for him. He tried something this morning, a last desperate move with the Bedouin in the Negev, didn't work.
And now the prominent Likud members will turn on him, which already started last week with Nir Barkat, who now sees himself as one of Netanyahu's potential replacements.
 
2021-06-13 8:12:40 AM  

bostonguy: Are you kidding me?

This government has the leftist Meretz, the center-left Labor, and Islamist Ra'am. If Bennett would want to attack the Palestinians in any way excepting self-defense, one or more of those parties would withdraw and collapse the government immediately.


You're talking to people who apparently have no farking clue how governments like this work. Keep that in mind.
 
2021-06-13 8:16:35 AM  
Bibi Netan.... Net-un....net.... not gonna work here anymore.
 
2021-06-13 8:17:54 AM  

TappingTheVein: bostonguy: Are you kidding me?

This government has the leftist Meretz, the center-left Labor, and Islamist Ra'am. If Bennett would want to attack the Palestinians in any way excepting self-defense, one or more of those parties would withdraw and collapse the government immediately.

You're talking to people who apparently have no farking clue how governments like this work. Keep that in mind.


So I take it you're not a betting man.
 
2021-06-13 8:20:44 AM  

Porous Horace: Marcus Aurelius: If this new government forms, they're going to need to bomb someone almost immediately.  Anyone want to start a pool on who gets it?

Where do you live?


In the land of political reality.
 
2021-06-13 8:21:09 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: So I take it you're not a betting man.


On the contrary, I actually won 100 Shekel (about 30$) 20 min ago from a co-worker who said almost the exact same thing you did.
 
2021-06-13 8:28:16 AM  
Hopefully Bibi takes up residence in Israel's lower house. The Big House.
 
2021-06-13 8:29:22 AM  

vudukungfu: Shouldn't god decide?

Or is it, let god sort them out?


God is all-powerful, but He still needs help realizing His plan on earth.
 
2021-06-13 8:34:31 AM  
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It's good to see the Mossad troll farm is up early today with a preemptive thread to control the narrative here.

Old boss, same as the new boss.

/BDS
 
2021-06-13 8:38:28 AM  

cryptozoophiliac: vudukungfu: Shouldn't god decide?

Or is it, let god sort them out?

God is all-powerful, but He still needs help realizing His plan on earth.


So...not all powerful then.
 
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