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(Cracked)   Cracked columnist thinks kids should stop dressing up as evil Imperial stormtroopers for Halloween, would presumably prefer them to dress as more positive role models such as vampires, werewolves, zombies, child-eating witches, etc   (cracked.com) divider line
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2021-06-12 3:20:08 PM  
Space Nazis, like Land Nazis, are snappy dressers. The Rebels' wardrobe is kinda lame by contrast.
 
2021-06-12 3:23:03 PM  
I'm too lazy to look for a picture of my Captain Needa costume.
 
2021-06-12 3:33:04 PM  
Real Americans prefer (and identify with) the Empire.  I live in what many farkers would consider Jesus-land and Chrisrian symbols arw rarer on people's homes and vehicles than the Empire, Punishers, Sparta and other symbols of suburban males uncomfortable with achieving the social markers of masculinity in a democratic society.
 
2021-06-12 3:54:18 PM  
On the upside if they actually used their blaster, you'd never get shot.
 
2021-06-12 3:57:48 PM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Space Nazis, like Land Nazis, are snappy dressers. The Rebels' wardrobe is kinda lame by contrast.


Funny thing is, Imperial armor & gear was cheap & sh*tty compared to the top-of-the-line stuff that the Republic's Clones were issued. So many cut corners resulted in Stormtroopers who couldn't hit the side of a Death Star even if they were inside it, and armor that wouldn't even stop a rock thrown by a talking beaver.

Kanan and Rex Infiltrates New Imperial ship
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2021-06-12 4:15:28 PM  

006andahalf: Real Americans prefer (and identify with) the Empire.  I live in what many farkers would consider Jesus-land and Chrisrian symbols arw rarer on people's homes and vehicles than the Empire, Punishers, Sparta and other symbols of suburban males uncomfortable with achieving the social markers of masculinity in a democratic society.


Yup: U.S.A. culture in general (and I'm including all ethnicities in there)
Has become a pathetic display of:
Reaction
Insecurity
Denial
Overcompensation
 
2021-06-12 4:19:48 PM  
Real fascists love to play pretend fascists. Film at 11.
 
2021-06-12 4:40:03 PM  
Star Wars: Dark Forces - Steamboat Wendigo
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"In this game you'll be doing one thing, and one thing only:
killing space Nazis."
 
2021-06-12 5:13:25 PM  
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2021-06-12 5:56:29 PM  
The Empire *was* the good guys.
 
2021-06-12 6:11:55 PM  

skyotter: I'm too lazy to look for a picture of my Captain Needa costume.


Sounds like you're as lazy as you are stupid
 
2021-06-12 6:30:42 PM  

WhippingBoi: The Empire *was* the good guys.


Right.  And the DS-1 was just a planetary mining rig the Rebels tried to hijack.  And the DS-2 was actually a Rebel creation that the Emperor fought to stop.

/the Expanded Universe made some half-hearted attempts to show an Imperial propagandized view of the galaxy
 
2021-06-12 6:34:52 PM  

WhippingBoi: The Empire *was* the good guys.


Alderaan shot first.
 
2021-06-12 6:38:38 PM  
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Clothes make the man, but the Nazis were some stylish dressers. I download the Organisationsbuch der NSDAP from 1937 (it's their 678 page branding guide for everything Nazi down to the smallest detail. It's been said that Trump read Mein Kampf, but Dick Cheney reads this.
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I've never even seen these nifty badges of pure evil before. Some graphic designer working their ass off for Hitler, ends up making something graphically interesting, and we're there are so many more pages of this. Anyone who wants to be in branding or advertising could do worse than seeing how evil was successfully branded to just enough normal, everyday Germans that 6 million Jews alone died for Hitler's brand of evil.

Which is why stormtroopers and the empire look cool. Damn evil's fashion sense. They always say the devil was God's most beautiful angel.
 
2021-06-12 6:39:37 PM  
Uh. Stormtrooper armor just looks cooler. I mean, come on, not very many people wanna wear the lame neon-orange construction worker jumpsuits or put the big white teardrop colanders on their heads. The only rebel gear that isn't lame is the Endor scout stuff.

"You're not allowed to dress up like THEM because THEY'RE the bad guys!" Really? They're also fictional. People like to dress up as bits of their favorite franchise, good or bad.
 
2021-06-12 6:48:17 PM  

Stargazer86: Uh. Stormtrooper armor just looks cooler. I mean, come on, not very many people wanna wear the lame neon-orange construction worker jumpsuits or put the big white teardrop colanders on their heads. The only rebel gear that isn't lame is the Endor scout stuff.

"You're not allowed to dress up like THEM because THEY'RE the bad guys!" Really? They're also fictional. People like to dress up as bits of their favorite franchise, good or bad.


I wonder if the 501st will get canceled eventually. That would really suck.
 
2021-06-12 6:56:41 PM  
Ok, chill out Francis but At a recent Space Force swearing-in - yes, Space Force is still real, and we are going ahead with it - DeAnna Burt, outer space's newest Major General, was surrounded by stormtroopers, as well as Boba Fett and Darth Vader, as she took her oath of office. BUT what the fark! Seriously!
 
2021-06-12 7:07:02 PM  
This moron realizes it's a work of fiction right? They're just movies. If I build a Lego Death Star, I'm supporting planetary genocide, I'm just building a cool set of Legos.
 
2021-06-12 7:07:41 PM  
Stormtroopers weren't bad guys. They were clones bred to follow orders.  I've read many many times here on Fark "it's not the breed but the owner that is bad".
 
2021-06-12 7:14:08 PM  

ReapTheChaos: This moron realizes it's a work of fiction right? They're just movies. If I build a Lego Death Star, I'm supporting planetary genocide, I'm just building a cool set of Legos.


That should have said NOT supporting...
 
2021-06-12 7:17:16 PM  
WTH? Halloween has been destroyed by Church groups and adult hypocrites who loved trick or treating when they were children. costumes mean nothing now. we haven't had a single kid come to our door for free candy in years. farkin' townships give the kids a 1 hour window to 'treat', for gosh sakes.

this pisses me off big time. Halloween is the best memories of my childhood. I don't understand why adults have chosen to ruin this for the little ones.
 
2021-06-12 7:18:16 PM  
I totally agree. What parent would let their kid dress in stormtrooper armor when Mandalore armour exists?  That's just shiatty parenting
 
2021-06-12 7:20:43 PM  

ReapTheChaos: This moron realizes it's a work of fiction right? They're just movies. If I build a Lego Death Star, I'm supporting planetary genocide, I'm just building a cool set of Legos.


The presentation of Star Wars is always for the Empire to be the fascist-emulating villain.  They dress in fascist-style clothing.  They, off-screen, kill billions of people.  They casually operate an excessive military, are quick to use violence to subdue others, and are obedient to an authoritarian system.

What Star Wars lacks is a Schindler's List/12 Years a Slave-analogue story that goes hard into the horrors of the Empire.  They've draped the Empire in the stylings of fascism but never give a clear, direct picture of what they are actually doing.  Of course, it would immediately be in bad taste to start aping the Holocaust in a work of space fantasy, but the 'bad guys' are already so heavily coded as Space Nazis without the actual extensive bad actions.

As it's presented, Star Wars gives a version of fascism that is fun and family friendly.
 
2021-06-12 7:36:33 PM  

kyleaugustus: ReapTheChaos: This moron realizes it's a work of fiction right? They're just movies. If I build a Lego Death Star, I'm supporting planetary genocide, I'm just building a cool set of Legos.

The presentation of Star Wars is always for the Empire to be the fascist-emulating villain.  They dress in fascist-style clothing.  They, off-screen, kill billions of people.  They casually operate an excessive military, are quick to use violence to subdue others, and are obedient to an authoritarian system.

What Star Wars lacks is a Schindler's List/12 Years a Slave-analogue story that goes hard into the horrors of the Empire.  They've draped the Empire in the stylings of fascism but never give a clear, direct picture of what they are actually doing.  Of course, it would immediately be in bad taste to start aping the Holocaust in a work of space fantasy, but the 'bad guys' are already so heavily coded as Space Nazis without the actual extensive bad actions.

As it's presented, Star Wars gives a version of fascism that is fun and family friendly.


Hey I'm the grand son (and great grandson) of Imperial soldiers...can I still dress up as a Stormtrooper?

/Yes the empire is still viewed as fairly harmless here
 
2021-06-12 8:09:39 PM  

sinko swimo: WTH? Halloween has been destroyed by Church groups and adult hypocrites who loved trick or treating when they were children. costumes mean nothing now. we haven't had a single kid come to our door for free candy in years. farkin' townships give the kids a 1 hour window to 'treat', for gosh sakes.

this pisses me off big time. Halloween is the best memories of my childhood. I don't understand why adults have chosen to ruin this for the little ones.


The practicle function I can figure for trick or treat is you, as a parents, have viable means of seeing who's who, and the neighbor now knows who's kids are who's, so when kids do kid things, they know who's parents to bother.
 
2021-06-12 8:12:01 PM  
Remember how all the kids were going to dress up as plague doctors for Halloween 2020?
 
2021-06-12 8:15:05 PM  
This article is just looking for outrage in Alderaan places.
 
2021-06-12 8:29:47 PM  
Have all the girls above age 16 dress as Vampire Willow from BTVS, and have all the guys dress as 47 from the Hitman games. Sure, the pedo brigade would be chasing the girls, but at least you could identify the pedo brigade quickly.
 
2021-06-12 8:33:07 PM  
This is like that dipshiat podcast they had where they said that watching movies with superheroes and cops in the future as extremely sick because why would we watch the world be saved when all it would take is a good spending bill for community policing and equitable distribution of wealth. Because what an interesting movie that would make.
 
2021-06-12 9:15:24 PM  

EvilElecBlanket: Stargazer86: Uh. Stormtrooper armor just looks cooler. I mean, come on, not very many people wanna wear the lame neon-orange construction worker jumpsuits or put the big white teardrop colanders on their heads. The only rebel gear that isn't lame is the Endor scout stuff.

"You're not allowed to dress up like THEM because THEY'RE the bad guys!" Really? They're also fictional. People like to dress up as bits of their favorite franchise, good or bad.

I wonder if the 501st will get canceled eventually. That would really suck.


I wouldn't be surprised, and I'm not sure that'd be a bad thing. I've had to block a remarkable number of actual fascists in the last few years among my TK family for confusing "bad guys doing good" with actual Nazi-level shenanigans. It'll only take a few of those to do something stupid in public before Lucasfilm alters the agreement again.
 
2021-06-12 9:40:12 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Stormtroopers weren't bad guys. They were clones bred to follow orders.  I've read many many times here on Fark "it's not the breed but the owner that is bad".


no Clone Trooper are clones bred to follow orders. Stormtroopers are regular joes trained to not shoot straight and enforce the orders of the Space Nazi Emperor
 
2021-06-12 9:58:04 PM  

NetOwl: This article is just looking for outrage in Alderaan places.


Thread over, NetOwl wins. 

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2021-06-12 10:16:33 PM  

kyleaugustus: ReapTheChaos: This moron realizes it's a work of fiction right? They're just movies. If I build a Lego Death Star, I'm supporting planetary genocide, I'm just building a cool set of Legos.

The presentation of Star Wars is always for the Empire to be the fascist-emulating villain.  They dress in fascist-style clothing.  They, off-screen, kill billions of people.  They casually operate an excessive military, are quick to use violence to subdue others, and are obedient to an authoritarian system.

What Star Wars lacks is a Schindler's List/12 Years a Slave-analogue story that goes hard into the horrors of the Empire.  They've draped the Empire in the stylings of fascism but never give a clear, direct picture of what they are actually doing.  Of course, it would immediately be in bad taste to start aping the Holocaust in a work of space fantasy, but the 'bad guys' are already so heavily coded as Space Nazis without the actual extensive bad actions.

As it's presented, Star Wars gives a version of fascism that is fun and family friendly.


Except for the whole blowing up Alderaan thing. But they never explicitly showed hundreds of millions of people dying, so...

On topic, it's BS that the military is engaging in cosplay like this in the first place. This isn't Comicon. I don't see anyone dressed in Federation uniforms, or Klingon or Romulan or Borg costumes. Most of the "professional soldiers" present would scoff at that very suggestion. Yet they just smile at the "evil Galactic Empire" coplayers as if they're comrades-in-arms (and depending on who is inside the costumes, they might be).
 
2021-06-12 10:20:20 PM  

ClavellBCMI: Have all the girls above age 16 dress as Vampire Willow from BTVS, and have all the guys dress as 47 from the Hitman games. Sure, the pedo brigade would be chasing the girls, but at least you could identify the pedo brigade quickly.


paedos don't go after 16 yr olds, they go after young children. in America, in most states, 16 year olds can consent to sex and can get married. they are 2 years from voting or serving in the Armed Forces. many people have a skewed take on what a paedo really is. not sticking up for them, just saying there is a definition and words have meaning.
 
2021-06-12 10:21:39 PM  

natazha: Remember how all the kids were going to dress up as plague doctors for Halloween 2020?


I've never understood people who want people to avoid costumes like that.

The entire purpose of Halloween isn't too dress as a role model or a princess or ballerina or construction worker or whatever boring shiat. It's too dress as something fear inducing. Plague Doctor, Nazi, bad guys in general.

Why do people want to avoid the entire farking point?
 
2021-06-12 10:27:43 PM  
I would be more concerned that my child wanted to dress up as nameless cannon fodder grunt 421.
For hallowween at least set your sights a little higher.
 
2021-06-12 10:34:49 PM  

KRSESQ: Except for the whole blowing up Alderaan thing. But they never explicitly showed hundreds of millions of people dying, so...

On topic, it's BS that the military is engaging in cosplay like this in the first place. This isn't Comicon. I don't see anyone dressed in Federation uniforms, or Klingon or Romulan or Borg costumes. Most of the "professional soldiers" present would scoff at that very suggestion. Yet they just smile at the "evil Galactic Empire" coplayers as if they're comrades-in-arms (and depending on who is inside the costumes, they might be).


Exactly.  It certainly makes sense in the original film that they don't dwell on it.  Giving a deep, Oscar Schindler examination isn't what it's about.  You have a moment of Leia looking glum on the bridge and the next time she's looking sad, it's helping Luke cope with the one old man he just met that just died.  She's quickly emotionally disconnected from her entire homeworld and family.  There's a movie to tell.

To the Star Trek attire, there's been at least one ISS crew that did their mission photos in Starfleet uniforms, but that's also a service that's deeply grown into aspirational spaceflight.  Seeing some guy in Klingon brown face would probably look goofy and sad.  I'd sooner expect that Stormtroopers are more reflexively viewed as cool, they do look kind of badass in their costumes and are associated with an imposing military force, and for the longest time the Empire (and really Star Wars overall for the most part) was associated with whiteness by only using white actors.  If you're there with a white power mindset, a few Stormtroopers are probably up your alley.

Not that Star Trek really did that much better, but it has made a visible effort since the 1960s.
 
2021-06-12 10:43:09 PM  

Quantumbunny: natazha: Remember how all the kids were going to dress up as plague doctors for Halloween 2020?

I've never understood people who want people to avoid costumes like that.

The entire purpose of Halloween isn't too dress as a role model or a princess or ballerina or construction worker or whatever boring shiat. It's too dress as something fear inducing. Plague Doctor, Nazi, bad guys in general.

Why do people want to avoid the entire farking point?


I agree, but that's been shifting since at least around 1990.  Little kids dress up and they aren't going as corpses from the Rape of Nanjing (photos of bayoneted babies will not be included, you can Bing that yourself).  Parents want to put them in something they're comfortable with because it's a family holiday.  The gore and scare slowly got diluted away.

There's the occasional weirdo that gets caught dressing up for Halloween as Hitler or a Schutzstaffel officer.  The question I at least have is 'Are you dressing up as something deeply unsettling or something aspirational?'
 
2021-06-12 10:58:13 PM  
They make a valid point. Luckily, I'll be dressed as Han Solo disguised as a storm trooper so everything's fine.
 
2021-06-12 11:24:45 PM  
Halloween isn't for five months....
 
2021-06-13 1:44:52 AM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Stormtroopers weren't bad guys. They were clones bred to follow orders.  I've read many many times here on Fark "it's not the breed but the owner that is bad".


Clone Troopers aren't Storm Troopers. There's a distinction.
 
2021-06-13 3:31:47 AM  
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2021-06-13 7:49:22 AM  
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I think they need to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis
 
2021-06-13 8:02:49 AM  
Reminder: Stormtroopers Are the Bad Guys, Guys


Yeah, I still remember going to Target one holiday season, and
had decals of two Stormtroopers* greeting me at the door.


* i mean it's weird to me since the scenes that stayed with me during the original
were the charred remains of Luke's aunt and uncle or Obi-Wan cremating the bodies of
dead Jawas.

/you know when Mark Hamill's jaw drops and the John Williams score wells up.
//don't get me started on those that liked the last scenes of "Rogue One",
(oooooh, Vader wuz so coooool and soooooo badazz).
 
2021-06-13 8:32:51 AM  

AtomPeepers: They always say the devil was God's most beautiful angel.


Well, yeah - The Devil Wears Prada.

/the angels are clearly off-the-rack
 
2021-06-13 8:46:58 AM  
It has always been fun to dress up as bad guys on Halloween, long before Star Wars.
 
2021-06-13 8:56:22 AM  
if you don't want kids dressing as bad guys in a fictional movie, don't make their costumes look cool.
 
2021-06-13 10:16:49 AM  

AtomPeepers: [Fark user image 850x1264]
Clothes make the man, but the Nazis were some stylish dressers. I download the Organisationsbuch der NSDAP from 1937 (it's their 678 page branding guide for everything Nazi down to the smallest detail. It's been said that Trump read Mein Kampf, but Dick Cheney reads this.
[Fark user image 546x324]
I've never even seen these nifty badges of pure evil before. Some graphic designer working their ass off for Hitler, ends up making something graphically interesting, and we're there are so many more pages of this. Anyone who wants to be in branding or advertising could do worse than seeing how evil was successfully branded to just enough normal, everyday Germans that 6 million Jews alone died for Hitler's brand of evil.

Which is why stormtroopers and the empire look cool. Damn evil's fashion sense. They always say the devil was God's most beautiful angel.


I believe it was Hugo Boss who designed the Nazi uniforms.  He made a big comeback in the '80s with Yuppies.
 
2021-06-13 11:12:42 AM  

resident dystopian: Reminder: Stormtroopers Are the Bad Guys, Guys


Yeah, I still remember going to Target one holiday season, and
had decals of two Stormtroopers* greeting me at the door.


* i mean it's weird to me since the scenes that stayed with me during the original
were the charred remains of Luke's aunt and uncle or Obi-Wan cremating the bodies of
dead Jawas.

/you know when Mark Hamill's jaw drops and the John Williams score wells up.
//don't get me started on those that liked the last scenes of "Rogue One",
(oooooh, Vader wuz so coooool and soooooo badazz).


It wasn't COOL.

It was the farking boogeyman I had nightmares as a child of. Waking in the middle of the night and thinking I could hear that raspy breath. So that Rogue One scene was great for dialing back the "misunderstood dad/Byronic hero" thing people have been doing. Seeing Vader again from the point of view of terrified people running from an unstoppable monster.
 
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