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(The Philadelphia Inquirer)   Avid cyclist BoJo gets a gift from Joe   (inquirer.com) divider line
    More: Cool, Bicycle, Union Flag, Stephen Bilenky, United States, U.S. State Department, Bilenky Cycle Works, United Kingdom, big request  
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3 days ago  
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Missed opportunity
 
3 days ago  

OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity


I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?
 
3 days ago  
They were able to build a bike in only two weeks, amazing!
 
3 days ago  
Maybe Trudeau can have a hockey stick made for Putin and proceed to shove it up his ass?
 
3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?


The gears and chain hadn't been worked out yet.
 
3 days ago  

OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity


Looks like blast to try to learn.
 
3 days ago  

ArkPanda: Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?

The gears and chain hadn't been worked out yet.


Yeah, I went to wikipedia and read a bit.  Weird.  If it were me, I would have said, "So a larger front wheel will be faster and smother... but if you do that, then how the hell can anyone ride it comfortably?  And how do you balance with that high a center of gravity?  Nah, that'll never work."

Which is probably why I'm a librarian and not a famous inventor.
 
3 days ago  
when he learned the name of the eventual rider - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson - he decided to go on with it. "This is an opportunity" to raise his shop's profile, he thought at the time.

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3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?


It was invented by someone that really hated people?
 
3 days ago  
Is there a limit to how much a gift is allowed to cost? Why would they require the bike to cost $1,500, at a premium time crunch, when they normally run $7,500?
 
3 days ago  
Another fine example of an artist / artisan getting paid less in lieu of, "exposure".

"Hey, I know you usually charge $4,500 for your products, but I'm going to give you 1/3 that amount cuz I'm going to give your product to someone famous (who will never actually use it, or be seen using it).  I know it sounds like a horrible deal that completely disrespects your skill and expertise... but, THE EXPOSURE".
 
3 days ago  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?

It was invented by someone that really hated people?


Or someone who had a bunch of giant wheels left over from their "Giant deep-fried wheel on a stick" booth at the state fair.
 
3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?


Bigger wheel means more distance per turn of the pedals.  We have gears now to help with the mechanical advantage, but back then the most obvious/easiest thing was to make the wheel bigger to go faster per pedal.  Similar concept to why "speed" inline skates have big wheels but hockey inline skates have smaller wheels (maneuverability over mechanical advantage).
 
3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: ArkPanda: Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?

The gears and chain hadn't been worked out yet.

Yeah, I went to wikipedia and read a bit.  Weird.  If it were me, I would have said, "So a larger front wheel will be faster and smother... but if you do that, then how the hell can anyone ride it comfortably?  And how do you balance with that high a center of gravity?  Nah, that'll never work."

Which is probably why I'm a librarian and not a famous inventor.


When they are moving, they are probably self balancing like a regular bicycle.  Plus they were a great way to woo the ladies.
 
3 days ago  

OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity


I'd be wary of British government penny farthings.
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/I am not a number
 
3 days ago  
With NufarkTM you get a bike hater thread and a BoJo hater thread combined.

/cyclist
//hater
 
3 days ago  

disaster bastard: Is there a limit to how much a gift is allowed to cost? Why would they require the bike to cost $1,500, at a premium time crunch, when they normally run $7,500?


I was wondering that, too. I assume there is some kind of limit.
 
3 days ago  

fragMasterFlash: Maybe Trudeau can have a hockey stick made for Putin and proceed to shove it up his ass?


Custom bicycle for Vladimir Putin:
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3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?


They hadn't yet invented the chain/gear system. They needed the gigantic wheel in order to generate more speed per rotation. Or something like that.
 
3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: ArkPanda: Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?

The gears and chain hadn't been worked out yet.

Yeah, I went to wikipedia and read a bit.  Weird.  If it were me, I would have said, "So a larger front wheel will be faster and smother... but if you do that, then how the hell can anyone ride it comfortably?  And how do you balance with that high a center of gravity?  Nah, that'll never work."

Which is probably why I'm a librarian and not a famous inventor.


Yay bike tawlk and pron time
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in this photo we see different wheel and tire sizes
it's remarkable how much difference wheel/tires sizes effect (affect? probably why I'm not a librarian) how the bike rides
as well as suspension
crazy that bikes are essentially still just bikes
 
3 days ago  

Boberella: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

Looks like blast to try to learn.


I've done a lot of organised rides in the Delmarva/PA area and there are always a couple of guys who show up riding penny-farthings/high wheelers.
 
3 days ago  
Except for ebikes
fark those motorbikes
 
3 days ago  

disaster bastard: Is there a limit to how much a gift is allowed to cost? Why would they require the bike to cost $1,500, at a premium time crunch, when they normally run $7,500?


If the State Department bought it using their funds, most likely that's the highest limit possible that they can essentially 'petty cash' or use a government credit card for before that purchase by law goes out for bid.

The County I work for is the same way with most purchases, but our limit is higher: $3,500-- we can't purchase gifts.  We're also not the State Department and in the business of trying to appeal egomaniacal world leaders...
 
3 days ago  
Holee gear ratio. Look at the farking cassette.

What is that, an 80 tooth cog?
 
3 days ago  
 I have to admit I have never once seen a picture of Boris Johnson and thought "You know, if ever I saw an avid bicyclist, that's one right there."
 
3 days ago  
Joe got a discount?
 
3 days ago  

grokca: They were able to build a bike in only two weeks, amazing!


If you were given some steel tubes and all the components how long would it take you to build one to specification?
 
3 days ago  
Maybe it woulda got made quicker if it wasn't one guy doing the work and two guys watching
 
3 days ago  

xxBirdMadGirlxx: I have to admit I have never once seen a picture of Boris Johnson and thought "You know, if ever I saw an avid bicyclist, that's one right there."


Shockingly, there historically HAVE been lots of photos of him biking.

One of many:

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Also very infamously, riding (well... hilariously stuck, actually) on ziplines:

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3 days ago  

Gorn Fishin': Another fine example of an artist / artisan getting paid less in lieu of, "exposure".

"Hey, I know you usually charge $4,500 for your products, but I'm going to give you 1/3 that amount cuz I'm going to give your product to someone famous (who will never actually use it, or be seen using it).  I know it sounds like a horrible deal that completely disrespects your skill and expertise... but, THE EXPOSURE".


Yeah, but people in the G7 nations (including us farkers) are reading about Bilenky Cycle Works  coming through in a crunch. It's not like an Instagram influencer trying to scam free wedding photos because they've got 600 followers.

I'd wager that they'll actually end up selling a few more bicycles explicitly because of this.
 
3 days ago  

xxBirdMadGirlxx: I have to admit I have never once seen a picture of Boris Johnson and thought "You know, if ever I saw an avid bicyclist, that's one right there."


Maybe the wind-tossed hair?
 
3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: ArkPanda: Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?

The gears and chain hadn't been worked out yet.

Yeah, I went to wikipedia and read a bit.  Weird.  If it were me, I would have said, "So a larger front wheel will be faster and smother... but if you do that, then how the hell can anyone ride it comfortably?  And how do you balance with that high a center of gravity?  Nah, that'll never work."

Which is probably why I'm a librarian and not a famous inventor.


Done right:
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3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?


like all designers , they started with what they had to work with already.
Looking at the past and pondering why their designs seem to dumb is us pleasing being dumb.

We have all the history of data and understanding piled up in between the time of us and them to leverage for a better starting point.

Understanding the difference between what we understand today and we used to not understand back when, is what would not leave you asking so many questions about where they get their design sense from.
 
3 days ago  
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3 days ago  
Any artist/artisan learns early on that opportunists will grab at any chance to get free/discount work, and also are not mindful enough to understand that they are harming the artist/artisan.

At this point, he should have known better. If he hoped for exposure to work in his favor, he also understands that it is a risk. It may work, it may not.

Whining about it is not a good look, and probably will open him up for more opportunists who will try to discount the bikes because, "you made one for $1500, why not for me too? Fine, I'm not shopping here."
 
3 days ago  
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3 days ago  

Gorn Fishin': Another fine example of an artist / artisan getting paid less in lieu of, "exposure".

"Hey, I know you usually charge $4,500 for your products, but I'm going to give you 1/3 that amount cuz I'm going to give your product to someone famous (who will never actually use it, or be seen using it).  I know it sounds like a horrible deal that completely disrespects your skill and expertise... but, THE EXPOSURE".


The way I read it it was an offer they were free to reject. I imagine the price was as much for political optics as anything. Even now I'm sure the repugnican outrage machine will be shiatting all over the gesture as a waste of tax payer dollars.
 
3 days ago  

Boberella: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

Looks like blast to try to learn.


Looks like a great way to spread brain matter on the pavement.
 
3 days ago  

inner ted: Benevolent Misanthrope: ArkPanda: Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?

The gears and chain hadn't been worked out yet.

Yeah, I went to wikipedia and read a bit.  Weird.  If it were me, I would have said, "So a larger front wheel will be faster and smother... but if you do that, then how the hell can anyone ride it comfortably?  And how do you balance with that high a center of gravity?  Nah, that'll never work."

Which is probably why I'm a librarian and not a famous inventor.

Yay bike tawlk and pron time
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in this photo we see different wheel and tire sizes
it's remarkable how much difference wheel/tires sizes effect (affect? probably why I'm not a librarian) how the bike rides
as well as suspension
crazy that bikes are essentially still just bikes


i.pinimg.comView Full Size
 
3 days ago  

xxBirdMadGirlxx: I have to admit I have never once seen a picture of Boris Johnson and thought "You know, if ever I saw an avid bicyclist, that's one right there."


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3 days ago  

Luse: Gorn Fishin': Another fine example of an artist / artisan getting paid less in lieu of, "exposure".

"Hey, I know you usually charge $4,500 for your products, but I'm going to give you 1/3 that amount cuz I'm going to give your product to someone famous (who will never actually use it, or be seen using it).  I know it sounds like a horrible deal that completely disrespects your skill and expertise... but, THE EXPOSURE".

The way I read it it was an offer they were free to reject. I imagine the price was as much for political optics as anything. Even now I'm sure the repugnican outrage machine will be shiatting all over the gesture as a waste of tax payer dollars.


But Trump golfing at his own properties 308 times? Perfectly fine use of $147 million US Taxpayer dollars.
 
3 days ago  

Snaptastic: Any artist/artisan learns early on that opportunists will grab at any chance to get free/discount work, and also are not mindful enough to understand that they are harming the artist/artisan.

At this point, he should have known better. If he hoped for exposure to work in his favor, he also understands that it is a risk. It may work, it may not.

Whining about it is not a good look, and probably will open him up for more opportunists who will try to discount the bikes because, "you made one for $1500, why not for me too? Fine, I'm not shopping here."


We have a POTUS discount. We'll have one ready for your inauguration.
 
3 days ago  

Private_Citizen: Luse: Gorn Fishin': Another fine example of an artist / artisan getting paid less in lieu of, "exposure".

"Hey, I know you usually charge $4,500 for your products, but I'm going to give you 1/3 that amount cuz I'm going to give your product to someone famous (who will never actually use it, or be seen using it).  I know it sounds like a horrible deal that completely disrespects your skill and expertise... but, THE EXPOSURE".

The way I read it it was an offer they were free to reject. I imagine the price was as much for political optics as anything. Even now I'm sure the repugnican outrage machine will be shiatting all over the gesture as a waste of tax payer dollars.

But Trump golfing at his own properties 308 times? Perfectly fine use of $147 million US Taxpayer dollars.


Hey, you'll get no argument from me on that. Just pointing out one potential reason it was kept to a fairly low amount by comparison.
 
3 days ago  

Tonto's Expanding Headband: grokca: They were able to build a bike in only two weeks, amazing!

If you were given some steel tubes and all the components how long would it take you to build one to specification?


I've never built a frame, first I would have to learn to braze it properly, but these guys know that already, I would also have to have the correct cutting and shaping tools, but these guys have that already. They should be able to have the frame made in 1 day, paint 3 days.
Once I got a frame I could put a bike together in an afternoon.
It's not that hard.
I used to build bikes when I was 10.
 
3 days ago  

Gordon Bennett: xxBirdMadGirlxx: I have to admit I have never once seen a picture of Boris Johnson and thought "You know, if ever I saw an avid bicyclist, that's one right there."

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my potential contribution to this conversation has been rendered redundant.
thankyouGordonBennettandgoodnight
 
3 days ago  

Private_Citizen: But Trump golfing at his own properties 308 times? Perfectly fine use of $147 million US Taxpayer dollars.


This is easy to reconcile, once you understand the Republican thinking process of "A Republican can do no wrong. A non-Republican can do no right".
 
3 days ago  
Remember how Boris is an avid cyclist (they even call the bikes in London for Boris Bikes even though I think they came to be under Ken Livingstone).

Either way, my favorite photo of Boris on a bike:
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Juc
3 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: OdradekRex: [tallyho.cc image 600x600]
Missed opportunity

I shake my head every time I see one of those.  I mean, who the fark thought that was a good idea?  Why would anyone start with that form factor?


they existed because roads were absolute shiat until cars became mainstream, that huge wheel was for relative stability.

I'm not sure what happened after but I assume someone put shocks, or padding, on a bike and no one wanted to go on those big death traps again.
 
3 days ago  

grokca: Immensely unlikely statements........



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