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2021-06-11 12:45:53 AM  
I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit
 
2021-06-11 12:48:04 AM  
You could say they're ready for...
<puts on sunglasses>
High-Capacity Quivering


YEEEAAAAHHHHHH
 
2021-06-11 12:48:52 AM  
Well if that doesn't just William Tell your sushi.
 
2021-06-11 12:55:02 AM  
Trebuchets are still cool, right?
 
2021-06-11 12:58:03 AM  
No Second Amendment rights.

But the only thing that can protect you from a bad guy with a cross-bow is running away very fast in an unpredictable dodging pattern.
 
2021-06-11 12:59:03 AM  
Do you suppose that running away would work with firearms, if you had a lot of good cover, perhaps?
 
2021-06-11 12:59:41 AM  
That's what America really needs. Lots of good bullet-proof hiding places.
 
2021-06-11 1:00:14 AM  
Tywin Lannister approves

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2021-06-11 1:00:56 AM  
THEY CAN PRY MY CROSSBOW FROM MY COLD DEAD

*twang*

OW!
 
2021-06-11 1:02:03 AM  
Yeah that was an oversight.
 
2021-06-11 1:02:18 AM  

brantgoose: That's what America really needs. Lots of good bullet-proof hiding places.


Just get one of those bulletproof backpacks for kids.
 
2021-06-11 1:06:09 AM  
What about regular bows and compound bows? Some can hurl a stick as fast as a crossbow and a longer distance. I think Japan needs more laws. Regulate all blades items like hatchets, axes, and lawnmowers.
 
2021-06-11 1:15:36 AM  
May affect this game:

https://youtu.be/zKeH5l10vjA
 
2021-06-11 1:21:34 AM  

aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit


True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets
 
2021-06-11 1:25:47 AM  

TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets


Oh man. You've done it now. The Pedant Police will be coming for you.
 
2021-06-11 1:29:34 AM  
crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders,

What other purpose does a crossbow serve?
 
2021-06-11 1:32:19 AM  
However, according to Japan's National Police Agency, crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders, including the killing of four people in Hyogo Prefecture in June of 2020.

A handful of murders over a decade using a specific and somewhat obscure weapon, and the legislature can get together and pass regulations that no one protests about? Wow.

Meanwhile, in 'Murica...

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2​0​21/06/10/20-teens-shot-this-year-in-ja​cksonville/

20 teenagers got shot so far just this year in Jacksonville, and everybody's just like..."Yeah, that's how it is, can't do nothin' about it. Mothafarkers die every day!"
 
2021-06-11 1:33:58 AM  

BuckTurgidson: crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders,

What other purpose does a crossbow serve?


Again:

https://youtu.be/zKeH5l10vjA
 
2021-06-11 1:34:49 AM  

Somaticasual: You could say they're ready for...
<puts on sunglasses>
High-Capacity Quivering


YEEEAAAAHHHHHH


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-06-11 1:36:05 AM  

TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets


A crossbow does not shoot arrows, if you put an arrow in a crossbow it wouldn't work very well. Crossbows fire bolts, did you never play D&D man! Turn in your Fark card immediately!
Picture of bolts below:
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2021-06-11 1:36:39 AM  

BuckTurgidson: crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders,

What other purpose does a crossbow serve?


Hunting!
 
2021-06-11 1:40:04 AM  

punkwrestler: BuckTurgidson: crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders,

What other purpose does a crossbow serve?

Hunting!


And fishing.
 
2021-06-11 1:40:27 AM  

punkwrestler: TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets

A crossbow does not shoot arrows, if you put an arrow in a crossbow it wouldn't work very well. Crossbows fire bolts, did you never play D&D man! Turn in your Fark card immediately!
Picture of bolts below:
[files.osgnetworks.tv image 850x647]


I was never allowed to, as a kid. My dad always said 'I would burn in hell' for playing it
 
2021-06-11 1:43:07 AM  

STFU_SNAFU_: punkwrestler: BuckTurgidson: crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders,

What other purpose does a crossbow serve?

Hunting!

And fishing.


And recreational target shooting.
 
2021-06-11 1:45:58 AM  

TuckFrump: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets

A crossbow does not shoot arrows, if you put an arrow in a crossbow it wouldn't work very well. Crossbows fire bolts, did you never play D&D man! Turn in your Fark card immediately!
Picture of bolts below:
[files.osgnetworks.tv image 850x647]

I was never allowed to, as a kid. My dad always said 'I would burn in hell' for playing it


OK and what is stopping you now? You're massive faux pas caused me the need my feinting couch and start drinking again, more!

D&D is a game of all ages, find a group it should be great!
 
2021-06-11 1:48:18 AM  

punkwrestler: TuckFrump: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets

A crossbow does not shoot arrows, if you put an arrow in a crossbow it wouldn't work very well. Crossbows fire bolts, did you never play D&D man! Turn in your Fark card immediately!
Picture of bolts below:
[files.osgnetworks.tv image 850x647]

I was never allowed to, as a kid. My dad always said 'I would burn in hell' for playing it

OK and what is stopping you now? You're massive faux pas caused me the need my feinting couch and start drinking again, more!

D&D is a game of all ages, find a group it should be great!


...

People still play D&D? Like tabletop?
 
2021-06-11 1:48:28 AM  

BuckTurgidson: crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders,

What other purpose does a crossbow serve?


37 crimes in 10 years? How has a serious problem like that not been addressed before then?
 
2021-06-11 1:48:44 AM  
Are spearguns regulated in Japan? They are pretty jabby and have the word gun in the name. Oh and what about a regular spear, or even an Atlatl???
 
2021-06-11 1:49:51 AM  

STFU_SNAFU_: Are spearguns regulated in Japan? They are pretty jabby and have the word gun in the name. Oh and what about a regular spear, or even an Atlatl???


Stop eye-balling my slingshot.
 
2021-06-11 1:51:40 AM  

TorpedoOrca: Tywin Lannister approves

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Like manna! Game of Thrones memes!
 
2021-06-11 1:51:46 AM  

Peki: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets

A crossbow does not shoot arrows, if you put an arrow in a crossbow it wouldn't work very well. Crossbows fire bolts, did you never play D&D man! Turn in your Fark card immediately!
Picture of bolts below:
[files.osgnetworks.tv image 850x647]

I was never allowed to, as a kid. My dad always said 'I would burn in hell' for playing it

OK and what is stopping you now? You're massive faux pas caused me the need my feinting couch and start drinking again, more!

D&D is a game of all ages, find a group it should be great!

...

People still play D&D? Like tabletop?


Yes, it's not as big as it once was but people still play, they even have updated and streamlined the rules.
 
2021-06-11 1:54:02 AM  

STFU_SNAFU_: Are spearguns regulated in Japan? They are pretty jabby and have the word gun in the name. Oh and what about a regular spear, or even an Atlatl???


What about ninja stars and other weapons?
 
2021-06-11 1:54:04 AM  

BafflerMeal: TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets

Oh man. You've done it now.

^You have done it now.^ The Pedant Police will be coming for you.

No, I am sure they have other things to do.
 
2021-06-11 2:00:44 AM  

punkwrestler: STFU_SNAFU_: Are spearguns regulated in Japan? They are pretty jabby and have the word gun in the name. Oh and what about a regular spear, or even an Atlatl???

What about ninja stars and other weapons?


Yup. Get it done. And I think d&d should be regulated too. You know those 4 sided dice are pretty pointy and could be used as a caltrop.
 
2021-06-11 2:04:20 AM  

punkwrestler: Peki: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets

A crossbow does not shoot arrows, if you put an arrow in a crossbow it wouldn't work very well. Crossbows fire bolts, did you never play D&D man! Turn in your Fark card immediately!
Picture of bolts below:
[files.osgnetworks.tv image 850x647]

I was never allowed to, as a kid. My dad always said 'I would burn in hell' for playing it

OK and what is stopping you now? You're massive faux pas caused me the need my feinting couch and start drinking again, more!

D&D is a game of all ages, find a group it should be great!

...

People still play D&D? Like tabletop?

Yes, it's not as big as it once was but people still play, they even have updated and streamlined the rules.


Cool! I'll have to see if there's a group nearby.
 
2021-06-11 2:08:50 AM  
I am actually affected by this legislation, so I will chime in. I am a fringe, non-serious, enthusiast of various objects that might be weapons, but which I use as tools for various tasks and maybe fun I guess. I have made atlatls, cross-bow like devices known as flippers, and small and primitive trebuchet like contraptions.

With numerous blades and crushing contraptions, I guess I might be a pretty scary person. Well. I am probably the scariest person in my neighborhood, frankly. But not in a bad way. The better angels of my nature distract me and help me at every turn.

The thing is, nobody knows this about me because there is no avenue in Japan, as far as I know, for showing off your hardware to your buddies at a Superbowl party, or threatening a meth-crazed attacker, or defending your dog from marauding police. You chop wood, fight the jungle with every blade you have, and do battle with large animals with fences where you can, and other means where practical.

So. There IS NO use for a store bought crossbow pistol or crossbow other than target shooting. Hunting and fishing, in principle, are illegal throughout Japan. Unfortunately, every large animal that marauds through my yard is protected. Violent crime in Japan is tracked down and prosecuted vigorously.

I think the law goes too far, but it is not my decision. Of course I will comply with the law.
 
2021-06-11 2:09:58 AM  

TuckFrump: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets

A crossbow does not shoot arrows, if you put an arrow in a crossbow it wouldn't work very well. Crossbows fire bolts, did you never play D&D man! Turn in your Fark card immediately!
Picture of bolts below:
[files.osgnetworks.tv image 850x647]

I was never allowed to, as a kid. My dad always said 'I would burn in hell' for playing it


Jokes on him.  You're going to burn in hell, anyway.

/I don't believe in hell
 
2021-06-11 2:14:50 AM  

2fardownthread: Hunting and fishing, in principle, are illegal throughout Japan.


That's not true at all.  Fishing is a popular sport in Japan.  Hunting is possible, but requires you to jump through a lot of legal hoops given how restricted firearms are and you are pretty much limited to shotguns and air rifles.
 
2021-06-11 2:45:31 AM  

Peki: punkwrestler: Peki: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: punkwrestler: TuckFrump: aerojockey: I'd say requiring permits for any deadly ranged weapon is reasonable.

/got my lawn darts permit

True. A crossbow is just a gun that shoots arrows, instead of bullets

A crossbow does not shoot arrows, if you put an arrow in a crossbow it wouldn't work very well. Crossbows fire bolts, did you never play D&D man! Turn in your Fark card immediately!
Picture of bolts below:
[files.osgnetworks.tv image 850x647]

I was never allowed to, as a kid. My dad always said 'I would burn in hell' for playing it

OK and what is stopping you now? You're massive faux pas caused me the need my feinting couch and start drinking again, more!

D&D is a game of all ages, find a group it should be great!

...

People still play D&D? Like tabletop?

Yes, it's not as big as it once was but people still play, they even have updated and streamlined the rules.

Cool! I'll have to see if there's a group nearby.


I have seen groups on meetup, and you can see about libraries, comic and gaming stores.
 
2021-06-11 2:47:08 AM  

STFU_SNAFU_: punkwrestler: STFU_SNAFU_: Are spearguns regulated in Japan? They are pretty jabby and have the word gun in the name. Oh and what about a regular spear, or even an Atlatl???

What about ninja stars and other weapons?

Yup. Get it done. And I think d&d should be regulated too. You know those 4 sided dice are pretty pointy and could be used as a caltrop.


Character sheets are worse death by 1000 paper cuts!
 
2021-06-11 3:02:36 AM  

khatores: However, according to Japan's National Police Agency, crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders, including the killing of four people in Hyogo Prefecture in June of 2020.

A handful of murders over a decade using a specific and somewhat obscure weapon, and the legislature can get together and pass regulations that no one protests about? Wow.

Meanwhile, in 'Murica...

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/20​21/06/10/20-teens-shot-this-year-in-ja​cksonville/

20 teenagers got shot so far just this year in Jacksonville, and everybody's just like..."Yeah, that's how it is, can't do nothin' about it. Mothafarkers die every day!"


The NPA in Japan love, love, love their data and they do their policy pushing very effectively. It is their job. Crime in Japan? It is impossible to find.. disorder, mayhem, pretty well anything that disturbs taxpayers. The weird thing is that one wonders.. hmmm.. Are the police overstepping their bounds? Have they gone too far? Is it a nanny state? No. Not really.

I think it is wonderful.

They identified a problem. Tracked the problem. Found the source. Then the legislation got drawn up, and now, presumably, that problem is solved. It is not politics. It is policy.

What the legislation has done is drawn a line, too. If some old 80 year old guy keeps a crossbow pistol with him when he is out in his garden plot because he is deathly afraid of boars, nobody knows. Nobody cares. If he shoots his wife, though, well, he is already guilty and that is that. But a guy can't hold one and walk through Akihabara anymore.

Don't the police have anything better to do?

You mean, chasing drug kingpins at 100 miles an hour through the center of town? Rounding up the heroin addicts? Rousting all the homeless from the park downtown? Domestic disputes over a television show? I haven't seen a cop car pull someone over to the shoulder in.... 5 years? 10? I know a young lady who works night shifts at emergency admissions at a major hospital in the middle of Tokyo. It is a pretty boring job, apparently. Gunshot wounds? There hasn't even been a stabbing for over a year. She has had one guy come in with a severed pinkie, as one might imagine.

I don't think the police do have anything better to do. I am sure they are looking at other potential crime problems, but wisely judging that "creating crime" is not in society's best interest. A lot of the COVID19 countermeasures were organized through community and commercial groups. As far as I know, the police have not had to do anything COVID19 related.

So I look back to the US, where I lived a very long time. Data are not being kept on guns, gun violence, gun death, or any of that, and certainly not at a national level. Policy is a shambles. Laws are full of holes and enforcement is spotty. Sketchy people can open carry. People escalate and make bad decisions. Crossbows and katana swords are just playthings compared to that. Americans walk around in fear, apparently, and have done so for generations.

It boggles my mind to figure out who is free and who is tyrannized. I think the US is tyrannized by freedom and politics, and Japan is freed by a tyranny of common sense and good policy. Hard to believe both societies exist on the same planet.

/ Yoshihiro Hattori was blown away in Louisiana in 1992. Just a guy looking for a Halloween party at the wrong address. He would be 45 if he were still around.

// I am such a Debbie Downer.

/// I should be talking about D and D.
 
2021-06-11 3:28:46 AM  

punkwrestler: BuckTurgidson: crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders,

What other purpose does a crossbow serve?

Hunting!


Not in Oregon.  Though I think we are alone in that.
 
2021-06-11 3:35:53 AM  

2fardownthread: khatores: However, according to Japan's National Police Agency, crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders, including the killing of four people in Hyogo Prefecture in June of 2020.

A handful of murders over a decade using a specific and somewhat obscure weapon, and the legislature can get together and pass regulations that no one protests about? Wow.

Meanwhile, in 'Murica...

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/20​21/06/10/20-teens-shot-this-year-in-ja​cksonville/

20 teenagers got shot so far just this year in Jacksonville, and everybody's just like..."Yeah, that's how it is, can't do nothin' about it. Mothafarkers die every day!"

The NPA in Japan love, love, love their data and they do their policy pushing very effectively. It is their job. Crime in Japan? It is impossible to find.. disorder, mayhem, pretty well anything that disturbs taxpayers. The weird thing is that one wonders.. hmmm.. Are the police overstepping their bounds? Have they gone too far? Is it a nanny state? No. Not really.

I think it is wonderful.

They identified a problem. Tracked the problem. Found the source. Then the legislation got drawn up, and now, presumably, that problem is solved. It is not politics. It is policy.

What the legislation has done is drawn a line, too. If some old 80 year old guy keeps a crossbow pistol with him when he is out in his garden plot because he is deathly afraid of boars, nobody knows. Nobody cares. If he shoots his wife, though, well, he is already guilty and that is that. But a guy can't hold one and walk through Akihabara anymore.

Don't the police have anything better to do?

You mean, chasing drug kingpins at 100 miles an hour through the center of town? Rounding up the heroin addicts? Rousting all the homeless from the park downtown? Domestic disputes over a television show? I haven't seen a cop car pull someone over to the shoulder in.... 5 years? 10? I ...


While it seemed like we were repeatedly on the cusp of some sort of gun control or reform or whatever (gun ownership had fallen although the number of guns has drastically risen), in fact now that trend is reversing as well. There are many more first time gun owners than ever before and people who traditionally did not get into heavier weapons are now buying AR-15s. In fact, this now seems like a perfectly reasonable suggestion even if you're not the type that would go to a white supremacist rally - the argument is, "They have them, so we need them to protect ourselves".

Not to say that new gun owners are necessarily going to be the problem...but it does have the net effect of increasing the overall number of guns and also spreading them out to more places where they hadn't previously been.

It seems clear that as the world becomes more fraught with difficulty due to climate change, inequality, political strife and conspiracy theories, the number of weapons will necessarily increase. Every time there's a crazy riot or some nonsense happens on TV, fear has an increasingly darker effect.
 
2021-06-11 4:02:01 AM  

2fardownthread: ...fishing, in principle, are illegal throughout Japan.


Fishing? Do what?
 
2021-06-11 4:11:03 AM  

brantgoose: No Second Amendment rights.

But the only thing that can protect you from a bad guy with a cross-bow is running away very fast in an unpredictable dodging pattern.


The Second Amendment doesn't preclude requiring a permit in order to own a weapon.
 
2021-06-11 4:21:34 AM  

BafflerMeal: 2fardownthread: ...fishing, in principle, are illegal throughout Japan.

Fishing? Do what?


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Fishing is so illegal in Japan there's numerous successful chain stores dedicated to it and even places where they stock large live pools so you can catch hungry captive fish for a cheap thrill.
 
2021-06-11 4:31:28 AM  

2fardownthread: I am actually affected by this legislation, so I will chime in. I am a fringe, non-serious, enthusiast of various objects that might be weapons, but which I use as tools for various tasks and maybe fun I guess. I have made atlatls, cross-bow like devices known as flippers, and small and primitive trebuchet like contraptions.

With numerous blades and crushing contraptions, I guess I might be a pretty scary person. Well. I am probably the scariest person in my neighborhood, frankly. But not in a bad way. The better angels of my nature distract me and help me at every turn.

The thing is, nobody knows this about me because there is no avenue in Japan, as far as I know, for showing off your hardware to your buddies at a Superbowl party, or threatening a meth-crazed attacker, or defending your dog from marauding police. You chop wood, fight the jungle with every blade you have, and do battle with large animals with fences where you can, and other means where practical.

So. There IS NO use for a store bought crossbow pistol or crossbow other than target shooting. Hunting and fishing, in principle, are illegal throughout Japan. Unfortunately, every large animal that marauds through my yard is protected. Violent crime in Japan is tracked down and prosecuted vigorously.

I think the law goes too far, but it is not my decision. Of course I will comply with the law.


I've read that the conviction rate in Japan was like 97.8% or something

are they really that accurate or do  a lot of people end up in jail that really don't belong there?

Are arrests so rare that it really doesn't affect that many people?
 
2021-06-11 4:33:36 AM  
In the United States federal court system, the conviction rate rose from approximately 75 percent to approximately 85% between 1972 and 1992. For 2012, the US Department of Justice reported a 93% conviction rate. In 2000, the conviction rate was also high in U.S. state courts.

Oh well nevermind
 
2021-06-11 4:35:11 AM  

punkwrestler: BuckTurgidson: crossbows/bowguns were involved in 37 reported crimes that took place between 2010 and 2020, 16 of which were murders or attempted murders,

What other purpose does a crossbow serve?

Hunting!


Hunting people!
 
2021-06-11 4:35:16 AM  
Wow the conviction rate in Japan is like 99.7 and it's almost always a confession

is that cultural or is that Insidious
 
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