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(The Drive)   South Korea realizing what sort of neighborhood it's in   (thedrive.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Amphibious assault ship, Aircraft carrier, South Korea, first aircraft carrier, amphibious assault ship design, Shipbuilding, F-35B stealth fighters, United States Marine Corps  
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4924 clicks; posted to Main » and Politics » on 10 Jun 2021 at 6:40 PM (3 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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3 days ago  
Nice model
 
3 days ago  
And since it's built by Hyundai, you get the 10-year warranty.
 
3 days ago  
My favorite thing from the whole article:

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3 days ago  

AlgaeRancher: Nice model


Nice marmot.
 
3 days ago  
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3 days ago  
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What is this? A aircraft carrier for ants? The aircraft carrier has to be at least... three times bigger than this!
 
3 days ago  
What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?
 
3 days ago  
Even if it's a crappy neighborhood, it's unlikely they'll be shot by their own police because of their skin color.
 
3 days ago  

casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?


Clearly reports of their obsolescence have been greatly exaggerated.
 
3 days ago  

casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?


They're capital ships, so they're deterrants, force projection, and prestige for the nations with them.
 
3 days ago  

C18H27NO3: My favorite thing from the whole article:

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M61a1?
 
3 days ago  

farkingismybusiness: [thedrive.com image 850x478]What is this? A aircraft carrier for ants? The aircraft carrier has to be at least... three times bigger than this!


Fame for this. Leaving with ants in my pants.
 
3 days ago  

AlgaeRancher: Nice model


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3 days ago  

BigNumber12: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

Clearly reports of their obsolescence have been greatly exaggerated.


Hypersonic cruise missile. Don't even have to destroy the beast. Just injure it enough to send it back to a friendly port.

Y'know....assuming you can find a friendly port in the blue ocean.
 
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3 days ago  

farkingismybusiness: [thedrive.com image 850x478]What is this? A aircraft carrier for ants? The aircraft carrier has to be at least... three times bigger than this!


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3 days ago  
Sounds like fun.......!!!!!


But I don't know if I'd wanna join in on the fun!!!!!
 
3 days ago  
Since south korea is the second biggest ship builder in the world, they can pull this off easy... with some american help.
 
3 days ago  

maxandgrinch: Even if it's a crappy neighborhood, it's unlikely they'll be shot by their own police because of their skin color.


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3 days ago  

casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?


It's fallout from the Trump era.  Turning our back on the world, has had the result that despots know they can build up huge militaries without worrying about America turning them into expensive scrap heaps, and our allies realiing they can not depend on us to protect them from the despots, because the next Trump might value economics over human rights.

This is gonna cause local arms races all over the world, including the buildip of nuclear arms, and the eventaul unleashing of those arms.

At least nuclear winter may stave off global warming so there is that going for us.
 
3 days ago  
Zoolander and Beetlejuice and Spinal Tap..? Dark gods damnit, leave something for me to contribute... * dejectedlyshuffles off *
 
3 days ago  

lolmao500: Since south korea is the second biggest ship builder in the world, they can pull this off easy... with some american help.


My main worry is industrial espionage.
A mass produced knock off of a decent carrier design could be trouble.
 
3 days ago  

winedrinkingman: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

It's fallout from the Trump era.  Turning our back on the world, has had the result that despots know they can build up huge militaries without worrying about America turning them into expensive scrap heaps, and our allies realiing they can not depend on us to protect them from the despots, because the next Trump might value economics over human rights.

This is gonna cause local arms races all over the world, including the buildip of nuclear arms, and the eventaul unleashing of those arms.

At least nuclear winter may stave off global warming so there is that going for us.


Eh, it's not like a warship building arms race has ever (partly) lead to a years-long conflict with millions dead 🤷🏻♂
 
3 days ago  

Enigmamf: And since it's built by Hyundai, you get the 10-year warranty.


but only on the propulsion
 
3 days ago  
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3 days ago  
If Great Britain can support two aircraft carriers, surely the world's biggest shipbuilder can support one.
 
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3 days ago  

AlgaeRancher: Nice model


It's an aircraft carrier for ants.
 
3 days ago  
Why would South Korea build an aircraft carrier?

All the threats they are worried about are within flight and cruise missile range... And those can be distributed among a wider area so an alpha strike can't as easily disable them. And they're harder to sink.
 
3 days ago  

casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?


You are of course technically correct, the best kind of correct in that yes the world has a fetish, and it is for the carrier.

But think about it for a second.  Would you rather the Navy have it's guys swim to the where we need to bring democracy?  Sure they could, they're in the Navy!  but it's not very fast. Also sharks.
 
3 days ago  

AlgaeRancher: Nice model


Yeah, but what does it transform into?
 
3 days ago  
If they build two of them they will have a good start towards copying the Japanese.

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3 days ago  

TrashcanMan: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

You are of course technically correct, the best kind of correct in that yes the world has a fetish, and it is for the carrier.

But think about it for a second.  Would you rather the Navy have it's guys swim to the where we need to bring democracy?  Sure they could, they're in the Navy!  but it's not very fast. Also sharks.


That's silly.  They could water ski there in half the time
 
3 days ago  

StoPPeRmobile: C18H27NO3: My favorite thing from the whole article:

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M61a1?


GAU‐8/A Avenger, same weapon as on the A-10 Warthog and the Goalkeeper CIWS system, according to the linked article in the linked article.  Evidently the South Korean navy is currently taking bids for a new CIWS system.

"While the radars will be locally designed and built, the weapon is not likely to be a locally developed one but rather the same GAU‐8/A Avenger seven-barreled autocannon used by the Goalkeeper CIWS, which is already in service with the RoKN."
 
3 days ago  

TrashcanMan: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

You are of course technically correct, the best kind of correct in that yes the world has a fetish, and it is for the carrier.

But think about it for a second.  Would you rather the Navy have it's guys swim to the where we need to bring democracy?  Sure they could, they're in the Navy!  but it's not very fast. Also sharks.


Of course not.

The Marines swim to shore.
 
3 days ago  
Does the slope at the end of the runway provide any real benefits or is it just a design choice that "seems like" it should? The only reason a plane wouldn't achieve flight is if weren't going fast enough, and the hill at the end may add a little upward trajectory but also will scrub some momentum, right?

I must assume I'm wrong, but that doesn't help me understand why.
 
3 days ago  

casual disregard: TrashcanMan: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

You are of course technically correct, the best kind of correct in that yes the world has a fetish, and it is for the carrier.

But think about it for a second.  Would you rather the Navy have it's guys swim to the where we need to bring democracy?  Sure they could, they're in the Navy!  but it's not very fast. Also sharks.

Of course not.

The Marines swim to shore.


Silly person.  Marines walk to shore.
 
3 days ago  

Polish Hussar: StoPPeRmobile: C18H27NO3: My favorite thing from the whole article:

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M61a1?

GAU‐8/A Avenger, same weapon as on the A-10 Warthog and the Goalkeeper CIWS system, according to the linked article in the linked article.  Evidently the South Korean navy is currently taking bids for a new CIWS system.

"While the radars will be locally designed and built, the weapon is not likely to be a locally developed one but rather the same GAU‐8/A Avenger seven-barreled autocannon used by the Goalkeeper CIWS, which is already in service with the RoKN."


I've always been confused that the US doesn't use the Goalkeeper, which has like an extra kilometer effective range over the 20mm Phalanx.  Only reason I can think of is ammo cost.
 
3 days ago  
I expect it'll do much better than the Chinese one. Pretty soon everyone in the neighborhood will have one.
 
3 days ago  
Good for them!
 
3 days ago  
South Korea, you disappoint.

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3 days ago  

Xetal: Why would South Korea build an aircraft carrier?

All the threats they are worried about are within flight and cruise missile range... And those can be distributed among a wider area so an alpha strike can't as easily disable them. And they're harder to sink.


Air bases are fairly stationary.
 
3 days ago  
South Korea really only has 2 enemies : north korea and China. They might need an aircraft carrier for China when it kicks off.
 
3 days ago  

Xetal: Why would South Korea build an aircraft carrier?

All the threats they are worried about are within flight and cruise missile range... And those can be distributed among a wider area so an alpha strike can't as easily disable them. And they're harder to sink.


They're worried about the Chinese navy, not the North Korean one.
 
3 days ago  

Habeas Porpoise: They could water ski there in half the time


Brilliant!  No one expects the Water Ski Inquisition!
 
3 days ago  

casual disregard: The Marines swim to shore


Get on my level, here for a second.  what if the Marines, road on the backs of the naval guys?  The Navy's just swimming around anyway, I call it a win-win proposition.
 
3 days ago  

casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?


I thought carriers were about projecting power.  How does an aircraft carrier help defend against an enemy that you share a border with?
 
3 days ago  
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3 days ago  

Remnants of Santa: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

I thought carriers were about projecting power.  How does an aircraft carrier help defend against an enemy that you share a border with?


Power projection
 
3 days ago  

Remnants of Santa: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

I thought carriers were about projecting power.  How does an aircraft carrier help defend against an enemy that you share a border with?


Attacking across a heavily fortified border is not easy, so going around would be a good tactic.  That's where a strong navy becomes essential.
 
3 days ago  

Remnants of Santa: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

I thought carriers were about projecting power.  How does an aircraft carrier help defend against an enemy that you share a border with?


China is a bigger threat. Xi's government is a threat to everyone in the region. The Koreans have a proverb, "When the whales fight, the shrimp is crushed." The Worst Koreans don't plan to be crushed again.
 
3 days ago  

BorgiaGinz: Remnants of Santa: casual disregard: What's with this fetish with carriers, anyway?

I thought carriers were about projecting power.  How does an aircraft carrier help defend against an enemy that you share a border with?

China is a bigger threat. Xi's government is a threat to everyone in the region.


Yep, hence the headline.

Also, Japan is arming the fark up as well, and technically being 'allies' doesn't mean that they aren't also rather fierce rivals whose people really farking dislike each other.
 
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