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(Toronto Star)   Tesla - here's an upgraded Model S: Zero to sixty in less than 2 seconds. You see, an EV's love is very different from that of an internal combustion engine   (thestar.com) divider line
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2021-06-10 2:03:55 PM  
But where will I park it?

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2021-06-10 2:12:27 PM  
the vehicle "guesses drive direction" based on context including obstacles and the navigation map, and drivers can use a touchscreen to override those assumptions,


Essentially, this will be autocorrect for your car. I look forward to reading future Fark submissions with the line, "what could possibly go wrong?"
 
2021-06-10 3:06:08 PM  
Zero to 60 times are very useful gauge of how good a car is.
 
2021-06-10 3:33:45 PM  

Badmoodman: the vehicle "guesses drive direction" based on context including obstacles and the navigation map, and drivers can use a touchscreen to override those assumptions,


Essentially, this will be autocorrect for your car. I look forward to reading future Fark submissions with the line, "what could possibly go wrong?"


Yeah, that and the stupid steering wheel are not good ideas.
 
2021-06-10 3:42:59 PM  
I had a Model X P100D. It was extremely fast in Ludicrous mode. Unfortunately, you could watch the battery charge go down very fast as well.
 
2021-06-10 3:43:10 PM  

Badmoodman: the vehicle "guesses drive direction" based on context including obstacles and the navigation map, and drivers can use a touchscreen to override those assumptions,


Essentially, this will be autocorrect for your car. I look forward to reading future Fark submissions with the line, "what could possibly go wrong?"


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2021-06-10 3:51:11 PM  

question_dj: Zero to 60 times are very useful gauge of how good a car is.


All that tells me is how good the tire grip are.

It tells me nothing about how long it'll last without needing servicing.
 
2021-06-10 3:54:40 PM  

question_dj: Zero to 60 times are very useful gauge of how good a car is.


Tells you a bit about how fun it will be to drive, tho.
 
2021-06-10 3:59:54 PM  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Badmoodman: the vehicle "guesses drive direction" based on context including obstacles and the navigation map, and drivers can use a touchscreen to override those assumptions,


Essentially, this will be autocorrect for your car. I look forward to reading future Fark submissions with the line, "what could possibly go wrong?"

Yeah, that and the stupid steering wheel are not good ideas.


I've been drawn to the Ford EVs because they have done a pretty good job of keeping the Bad Idea Bears at bay with weird shiat for the sake of being weird, and instead implementing legitimately great ideas like having drain holes in the frunk if you want to fill it full of ice and go tailgating and making the F-150 capable of powering your home on a power outage.
 
2021-06-10 4:04:20 PM  
I've only 'floored' my van twice in 16 years, there's a bit of turbo lag, but in both cases I got out a difficult spot in time.  I have no use for neck-snapping acceleration or touch screens that kill your car when they fail. The latter seems to be becoming the industry standard, though.  I don't want a car that decides which way it will move.

I do want emergency braking and adaptive cruise control.  My next car will be electric, but not likely to be a Tesla.  Maybe giga Berlin will step away from the "car as an electronic toy" in their Eurocar, maybe not.

/long on TSLA for a long time
 
2021-06-10 4:25:03 PM  

question_dj: Zero to 60 times are very useful gauge of how good a car is.


No its for how many idiots are going to cause wrecks flooring it in traffic
 
2021-06-10 4:50:36 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Carter Pewterschmidt: Badmoodman: the vehicle "guesses drive direction" based on context including obstacles and the navigation map, and drivers can use a touchscreen to override those assumptions,


Essentially, this will be autocorrect for your car. I look forward to reading future Fark submissions with the line, "what could possibly go wrong?"

Yeah, that and the stupid steering wheel are not good ideas.

I've been drawn to the Ford EVs because they have done a pretty good job of keeping the Bad Idea Bears at bay with weird shiat for the sake of being weird, and instead implementing legitimately great ideas like having drain holes in the frunk if you want to fill it full of ice and go tailgating and making the F-150 capable of powering your home on a power outage.


Yeah, I'm not a pick up truck guy, they're just not that common here, but reading about the electric F-150 I was thinking "Well now I want one".

/ In the UK the luggage compartment is the boot, so a "Front Boot" should be called a Froot, not a frunk.
 
2021-06-10 5:02:25 PM  
Musk has the right idea in making EVs that you don't have to compromise with.  Before Tesla, an EV meant a glorified golf cart with no power, room, or range.  That was the Tesla hook.  Ok, great, but the Model S has been out 9 years and even has barely changed visually. 

Tesla is going down the same path cellphones went down after the iPhone dominated the market.  It's a fantastic piece of technology and can do all kinds of great geeky things.  The iPhone is a fantastic web browser, email platform, camera, wi-fi hot spot, etc.  But it sucks at being a phone which was it's original purpose (well, besides making Steve Jobs buckets of money).  Tesla is doing the same thing.  It can play games, make fart noises, but does it put a smile on your face when you drive it?  The car has to be fun to drive, and it looks like he's got the specs on paper for that, but it still looks like a jelly bean and the new interior looks like a Jetson's jelly bean, with Clippy trying to control the transmission for you.  People dropping 6 figures for a car expect next level looks, next level refinement and interior appointments.  As an iGadget, Teslas are a masterpiece.  As a car, it may be fast but it's about as interesting and exciting as a Chevy Malibu.
 
2021-06-10 5:08:05 PM  
*excluding rollout

Which is still fast as fark
 
2021-06-10 5:12:04 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Carter Pewterschmidt: Badmoodman: the vehicle "guesses drive direction" based on context including obstacles and the navigation map, and drivers can use a touchscreen to override those assumptions,


Essentially, this will be autocorrect for your car. I look forward to reading future Fark submissions with the line, "what could possibly go wrong?"

Yeah, that and the stupid steering wheel are not good ideas.

I've been drawn to the Ford EVs because they have done a pretty good job of keeping the Bad Idea Bears at bay with weird shiat for the sake of being weird, and instead implementing legitimately great ideas like having drain holes in the frunk if you want to fill it full of ice and go tailgating and making the F-150 capable of powering your home on a power outage.


Their other cars "intelligent AWD" is an abomination that tried to kill me.

I don't need a car to randomly engage AWD when it decides to, in weird turns in the mountains and then take me towards the raging River 20 feet down.. or the 7 ft tall cement barrier.

Farking terrifying.
 
2021-06-10 5:17:20 PM  

Saturn5: Musk has the right idea in making EVs that you don't have to compromise with.  Before Tesla, an EV meant a glorified golf cart with no power, room, or range.  That was the Tesla hook.  Ok, great, but the Model S has been out 9 years and even has barely changed visually. 

Tesla is going down the same path cellphones went down after the iPhone dominated the market.  It's a fantastic piece of technology and can do all kinds of great geeky things.  The iPhone is a fantastic web browser, email platform, camera, wi-fi hot spot, etc.  But it sucks at being a phone which was it's original purpose (well, besides making Steve Jobs buckets of money).  Tesla is doing the same thing.  It can play games, make fart noises, but does it put a smile on your face when you drive it?  The car has to be fun to drive, and it looks like he's got the specs on paper for that, but it still looks like a jelly bean and the new interior looks like a Jetson's jelly bean, with Clippy trying to control the transmission for you.  People dropping 6 figures for a car expect next level looks, next level refinement and interior appointments.  As an iGadget, Teslas are a masterpiece.  As a car, it may be fast but it's about as interesting and exciting as a Chevy Malibu.


Oh gods. And having rented a couple Malibus over the year... its like the dodge dart. I'm amazed the Dart has 250 HP. That car drove like a dog and there was no joy.

I have more fun in my Impreza with 152 HP. The boxer engine, manual trans and low center of gravity and AWD makes winding mountain passes or ravines fun as hell. Inclement weather? What's that? That's just fun as long as no one else is on the road.

Then again my first 3 vehicles were Wranglers. They were just as fun to drive for other reasons (even with the 4 angry squirrels, power down hills and hope the lifted 33" tire powered by the squirrels would make it up the next hill on the highway)
 
2021-06-10 5:17:36 PM  

Saturn5: Musk has the right idea in making EVs that you don't have to compromise with.  Before Tesla, an EV meant a glorified golf cart with no power, room, or range.  That was the Tesla hook.  Ok, great, but the Model S has been out 9 years and even has barely changed visually. 

Tesla is going down the same path cellphones went down after the iPhone dominated the market.  It's a fantastic piece of technology and can do all kinds of great geeky things.  The iPhone is a fantastic web browser, email platform, camera, wi-fi hot spot, etc.  But it sucks at being a phone which was it's original purpose (well, besides making Steve Jobs buckets of money).  Tesla is doing the same thing.  It can play games, make fart noises, but does it put a smile on your face when you drive it?  The car has to be fun to drive, and it looks like he's got the specs on paper for that, but it still looks like a jelly bean and the new interior looks like a Jetson's jelly bean, with Clippy trying to control the transmission for you.  People dropping 6 figures for a car expect next level looks, next level refinement and interior appointments.  As an iGadget, Teslas are a masterpiece.  As a car, it may be fast but it's about as interesting and exciting as a Chevy Malibu.


They do "contactless" test drives. If you've got a free afternoon, you should try out a Model 3 Performance. Definitely much more fun than a Chevy Malibu.
 
2021-06-10 5:34:27 PM  

Saturn5: Musk has the right idea in making EVs that you don't have to compromise with.  Before Tesla, an EV meant a glorified golf cart with no power, room, or range.  That was the Tesla hook.  Ok, great, but the Model S has been out 9 years and even has barely changed visually. 

People dropping 6 figures for a car expect next level looks, next level refinement and interior appointments.  As an iGadget, Teslas are a masterpiece.  As a car, it may be fast but it's about as interesting and exciting as a Chevy Malibu.


Drove model Y and couldn't do it in the end.  Interior just sucks too much.  We've already got a perfectly good interface for a car.  I want my dials and buttons.  Plus the regenerative braking was way too harsh, made it hard to drive smoothly.  They had just taken away the ability to adjust that.
 
2021-06-10 5:56:48 PM  

dk47: Saturn5: Musk has the right idea in making EVs that you don't have to compromise with.  Before Tesla, an EV meant a glorified golf cart with no power, room, or range.  That was the Tesla hook.  Ok, great, but the Model S has been out 9 years and even has barely changed visually. 

People dropping 6 figures for a car expect next level looks, next level refinement and interior appointments.  As an iGadget, Teslas are a masterpiece.  As a car, it may be fast but it's about as interesting and exciting as a Chevy Malibu.

Drove model Y and couldn't do it in the end.  Interior just sucks too much.  We've already got a perfectly good interface for a car.  I want my dials and buttons.  Plus the regenerative braking was way too harsh, made it hard to drive smoothly.  They had just taken away the ability to adjust that.


I personally love really strong regen, but them eliminating the ability to adjust it is disappointing. My wife wants a Model Y, but she's also really bad at adjusting to new things. We've had a LEAF for over three years now, and she still puts in the most gas-car-like modes when she drives.
 
2021-06-10 7:05:24 PM  

question_dj: Zero to 60 times are very useful gauge of how good a car is.


It tells you EVERYTHING about technical superiority.
Over the last 100 years it was one of the main gauges of quality between gas cars...but now that gas cars have no chance, NOW it's not useful AT ALL.  No sir!
 
2021-06-10 8:18:35 PM  

Likwit: Saturn5: Musk has the right idea in making EVs that you don't have to compromise with.  Before Tesla, an EV meant a glorified golf cart with no power, room, or range.  That was the Tesla hook.  Ok, great, but the Model S has been out 9 years and even has barely changed visually. 

Tesla is going down the same path cellphones went down after the iPhone dominated the market.  It's a fantastic piece of technology and can do all kinds of great geeky things.  The iPhone is a fantastic web browser, email platform, camera, wi-fi hot spot, etc.  But it sucks at being a phone which was it's original purpose (well, besides making Steve Jobs buckets of money).  Tesla is doing the same thing.  It can play games, make fart noises, but does it put a smile on your face when you drive it?  The car has to be fun to drive, and it looks like he's got the specs on paper for that, but it still looks like a jelly bean and the new interior looks like a Jetson's jelly bean, with Clippy trying to control the transmission for you.  People dropping 6 figures for a car expect next level looks, next level refinement and interior appointments.  As an iGadget, Teslas are a masterpiece.  As a car, it may be fast but it's about as interesting and exciting as a Chevy Malibu.

They do "contactless" test drives. If you've got a free afternoon, you should try out a Model 3 Performance. Definitely much more fun than a Chevy Malibu.


It would need to be.  With Full Self Driving it costs as much as a BMW M3.  Fit, finish and interior appointments matter as much as raw performance.  I do like the Model 3, though, even though it's so boring looking.
 
2021-06-10 8:21:02 PM  

Saturn5: Likwit: Saturn5: Musk has the right idea in making EVs that you don't have to compromise with.  Before Tesla, an EV meant a glorified golf cart with no power, room, or range.  That was the Tesla hook.  Ok, great, but the Model S has been out 9 years and even has barely changed visually. 

Tesla is going down the same path cellphones went down after the iPhone dominated the market.  It's a fantastic piece of technology and can do all kinds of great geeky things.  The iPhone is a fantastic web browser, email platform, camera, wi-fi hot spot, etc.  But it sucks at being a phone which was it's original purpose (well, besides making Steve Jobs buckets of money).  Tesla is doing the same thing.  It can play games, make fart noises, but does it put a smile on your face when you drive it?  The car has to be fun to drive, and it looks like he's got the specs on paper for that, but it still looks like a jelly bean and the new interior looks like a Jetson's jelly bean, with Clippy trying to control the transmission for you.  People dropping 6 figures for a car expect next level looks, next level refinement and interior appointments.  As an iGadget, Teslas are a masterpiece.  As a car, it may be fast but it's about as interesting and exciting as a Chevy Malibu.

They do "contactless" test drives. If you've got a free afternoon, you should try out a Model 3 Performance. Definitely much more fun than a Chevy Malibu.

It would need to be.  With Full Self Driving it costs as much as a BMW M3.  Fit, finish and interior appointments matter as much as raw performance.  I do like the Model 3, though, even though it's so boring looking.


Yeah... but without Full Self Driving it's $10,000 less than an M3. You also get similar specs, no tailpipe emissions, less maintenance, and you never have to deal with BMW dealerships.
 
2021-06-10 10:17:08 PM  

Saturn5: Musk has the right idea in making EVs that you don't have to compromise with.  Before Tesla, an EV meant a glorified golf cart with no power, room, or range.  That was the Tesla hook.  Ok, great, but the Model S has been out 9 years and even has barely changed visually. 

Tesla is going down the same path cellphones went down after the iPhone dominated the market.  It's a fantastic piece of technology and can do all kinds of great geeky things.  The iPhone is a fantastic web browser, email platform, camera, wi-fi hot spot, etc.  But it sucks at being a phone which was it's original purpose (well, besides making Steve Jobs buckets of money).  Tesla is doing the same thing.  It can play games, make fart noises, but does it put a smile on your face when you drive it?  The car has to be fun to drive, and it looks like he's got the specs on paper for that, but it still looks like a jelly bean and the new interior looks like a Jetson's jelly bean, with Clippy trying to control the transmission for you.  People dropping 6 figures for a car expect next level looks, next level refinement and interior appointments.  As an iGadget, Teslas are a masterpiece.  As a car, it may be fast but it's about as interesting and exciting as a Chevy Malibu.


This comment resonates with me. If nothing else, I have had to wrestle with this idea of "what is a car?" when looking at EVs and thinking about buying one. What do I want? What are my alternatives as a consumer? I don't have these rah rah emotions that many people use to guide their own behaviors, as they do with Apple products, or Linux, or whatever. I have to think about what I am buying.

Bought a dishwasher lately?

What is a dishwasher? It used to be a stainless steel box that you squirted water around in. It had racks that rolled in and out. And it rinsed and baked your dishes, basically.

But someone came along and said.... you know... what you really want is a bucket. Huh? A bucket? Yeah. A bathtub for your dishes. A shower. Not stainless steel. Plastic. Like a bathtub. And so the future of dishwashers is a lot less complicated. It uses a lot less steel and a lot less water. It seems reliable EVEN THOUGH it flips about 50 years of dishwasher development to a new paradigm. It happens.

So why does that not happen with cars? Because we aren't driving dishwashers. Cars have to do a lot of things all at once, with very high reliability and safety. All of the engineering that went into the very high quality automobiles we have today is not inertia to be overcome. It has been progress to be appreciated. So EVs still have a gadgety feel to them. Great for niches. Some problems have been solved. Not others.

I should be more excited about EVs, I often say to myself. Why am I not? Is it that they have too much of what I don't want and not enough of what I do want? Something like that? And I am not even THAT picky.
 
2021-06-10 11:31:03 PM  

2fardownthread: A bathtub for your dishes. A shower. Not stainless steel. Plastic. Like a bathtub. And so the future of dishwashers is a lot less complicated. It uses a lot less steel and a lot less water.


I wonder if this is true. The conventional wisdom is that hand washing uses more water and soap, but I wonder how the inclusion of manufacturing changes that equation.

You should consider moving to Japan. Their lifestyles are relatively (relatively) low carbon. Japanese dishwashers are plastic, don't require hot water, and use about 10L per load. That's gotta beat hand washing.
 
2021-06-11 2:52:47 AM  

Badmoodman: the vehicle "guesses drive direction" based on context including obstacles and the navigation map, and drivers can use a touchscreen to override those assumptions,


Essentially, this will be autocorrect for your car. I look forward to reading future Fark submissions with the line, "what could possibly go wrong?"


Will it "accidentally" call my mother a whore ?
 
2021-06-11 8:19:40 AM  

Likwit: 2fardownthread: A bathtub for your dishes. A shower. Not stainless steel. Plastic. Like a bathtub. And so the future of dishwashers is a lot less complicated. It uses a lot less steel and a lot less water.

I wonder if this is true. The conventional wisdom is that hand washing uses more water and soap, but I wonder how the inclusion of manufacturing changes that equation.

You should consider moving to Japan. Their lifestyles are relatively (relatively) low carbon. Japanese dishwashers are plastic, don't require hot water, and use about 10L per load. That's gotta beat hand washing.


I live in the UK and my Miele (German) full size dishwasher uses as little as six litres per wash.
 
2021-06-11 8:29:31 AM  

Mad_Radhu: question_dj: Zero to 60 times are very useful gauge of how good a car is.

Tells you a bit about how fun it will be to drive, tho.


Miata begs to differ.
 
2021-06-11 11:52:38 AM  

Daer21: Mad_Radhu: question_dj: Zero to 60 times are very useful gauge of how good a car is.

Tells you a bit about how fun it will be to drive, tho.

Miata begs to differ.


Well we finally got to the Miata.  Just like every airplane thread must mention the Warthog, every car discussion must mention the Miata.

/true though
 
2021-06-11 12:27:58 PM  

padraig: Will it "accidentally" call my mother a whore ?


I call your mom like any other girl I call.
 
2021-06-11 1:28:21 PM  

dk47: Daer21: Mad_Radhu: question_dj: Zero to 60 times are very useful gauge of how good a car is.

Tells you a bit about how fun it will be to drive, tho.

Miata begs to differ.

Well we finally got to the Miata.  Just like every airplane thread must mention the Warthog, every car discussion must mention the Miata.

/true though


The answer to all questions is miata. Minivan? Miata.
Truck? Miata.
Offroad? Miata.
Efficient commuter? Miata.
 
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