Skip to content
Do you have adblock enabled?
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Mediaite)   Jim Acosta is correct: We ignore greenlights of Trump threads at our own peril   (mediaite.com) divider line
    More: Obvious, White House, Mass media, President of the United States, Jim Acosta, anchor of his own CNN show, Bill Clinton, network's chief White House correspondent, robust stream of outrage  
•       •       •

2109 clicks; posted to Politics » on 10 Jun 2021 at 3:27 PM (10 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



72 Comments     (+0 »)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2021-06-10 2:14:55 PM  
Your opportunity to push back was before he was elected president, and during his time in office.

You failed at both. Repeatedly. With some of the sorriest excuses, false equivalences, and what-aboutisms I have ever read. Excuses that would not have been tolerated by my parents by the time I was 6.

You're just looking for those sweet, sweet clicks, and that lucrative audience share.

If your reports don't sound like this:

Turnip and his scallions broadcast another weepy lie today on OAN / Fox News / Newsmax.
Turnip followers are trying once again to subvert democracy, using lies as "evidence".

Now for some puppy pictures.

You're doing it wrong, and you deserve no clicks nor audience.

/ no, I do not like turnips
// not partial to beets, either
/// made a typo and ran (typed) with it
 
2021-06-10 2:43:45 PM  
Just let me have a little bit of peril!
 
2021-06-10 3:18:58 PM  
Counter point: Trumpism became a thing because we kept giving that idiot a microphone every time he wanted to mouth fart his garbage opinions.

When I come in here and say "ignore Trump," I'm not saying "let's just ignore the encroaching fascism and hope it goes away." I'm saying that major media outlets should stop publishing the things Trump says and does as of he has anything constructive to add. There's a reason he was kicked off every major social media platform and it's because nothing good can come from platforming him.
 
2021-06-10 3:21:44 PM  
FTFA : "Acosta noted that "Trumpists are afraid to come on CNN," pointing out that he has invited Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley on his show, to no avail."

Letterkenny Season 2- The native flu
Youtube gb_eMBOfafc


You got the Acosta Flu, you little biatch?

Yorkie....
 
2021-06-10 3:27:44 PM  
Also, instead of platforming these dummies, they should be spelling out in no uncertain terms that these guys are fascists.

FFS... Jim Acosta is gonna learn what leftist YouTubers learned years ago: bringing on fascists to have a friendly conversation and debunk their ideas is not how you deal with this shiat. They're just taking advantage of your platform and organizational skills to spread their bullshiat with bad faith rhetorical tactics and flat out lies. It's better just to ignore them and clearly and articulately point out again and again that they're dangerous farking idiots.
 
2021-06-10 3:29:03 PM  
He's right you know.

You can't ignore Trump and Trumpism although so many people here on Fark seem to think that's the answer. It must be acknowledged and dealt with.
 
2021-06-10 3:32:06 PM  
Like racism, ignoring it gives it fuel. It must be fought actively, every day. 

/every farking day
 
2021-06-10 3:34:47 PM  
Translation: We're dependent on Trump for clicks/ratings, so you'll get non stop Trump until Trump TrumpTrumpTrump TRUMMMPPP.
 
2021-06-10 3:35:51 PM  
This isn't really on the hoi polloi. This is on the government and the media.
 
2021-06-10 3:36:45 PM  

GitOffaMyLawn: Your opportunity to push back was before he was elected president, and during his time in office.

You failed at both. Repeatedly. With some of the sorriest excuses, false equivalences, and what-aboutisms I have ever read. Excuses that would not have been tolerated by my parents by the time I was 6.

You're just looking for those sweet, sweet clicks, and that lucrative audience share.

If your reports don't sound like this:

Turnip and his scallions broadcast another weepy lie today on OAN / Fox News / Newsmax.
Turnip followers are trying once again to subvert democracy, using lies as "evidence".

Now for some puppy pictures.

You're doing it wrong, and you deserve no clicks nor audience.

/ no, I do not like turnips
// not partial to beets, either
/// made a typo and ran (typed) with it


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2021-06-10 3:36:45 PM  

king of vegas: He's right you know.

You can't ignore Trump and Trumpism although so many people here on Fark seem to think that's the answer. It must be acknowledged and dealt with.


We must ensure that Democrats identify an enemy of such vile proportions that any criticism of crappy Democratic policies can easily be met with "well, at least we're slightly better than that other guy."
 
2021-06-10 3:38:14 PM  

misanthropicsob: Translation: We're dependent on Trump for clicks/ratings, so you'll get non stop Trump until Trump TrumpTrumpTrump TRUMMMPPP.


Liberals can totally ignore him. Quite understandable.

But conservatives aren't. Drive through the country. Count up the Trump support banners that are out there. I drive by 3 every day within 5 miles of each other.

Trump rules the Republican party.

Don't forget that.
 
2021-06-10 3:38:26 PM  
Going forward in this thread, I'm just gonna say: there's a stark difference between ignoring Trump and Trumpism and simply not platforming it. What Jimmy here is saying is "we need to challenge it in the market place of ideas," and that's a bad thing, because of the proverbial market place of ideas actually worked, then we wouldn't have a flourishing flat earth movement, or doctors standing before city counsels saying that vaccines turn people into magnets.

The media's failure again and again is that they keep bringing these dummies on and won't push through their bad faith bull shiat to articulately spell out that they're dangerous, assuming that their fascism is self-evident unto itself.
 
2021-06-10 3:40:04 PM  

misanthropicsob: king of vegas: He's right you know.

You can't ignore Trump and Trumpism although so many people here on Fark seem to think that's the answer. It must be acknowledged and dealt with.

We must ensure that Democrats identify an enemy of such vile proportions that any criticism of crappy Democratic policies can easily be met with "well, at least we're slightly better than that other guy."


Trump wanted to be a dictator and his followers tried to make that happen. You think that's something that we should ignore?
 
2021-06-10 3:40:06 PM  
No, Jim. *We* (with appropriate hand gestures), meaning average Americans and media, should ignore Trump.

The justice system shouldn't ignore him. Not one bit.
 
2021-06-10 3:40:37 PM  
there's a space between 'ignore' and 'cheer-lead' and the media hasn't found it.
 
2021-06-10 3:41:32 PM  

misanthropicsob: king of vegas: He's right you know.

You can't ignore Trump and Trumpism although so many people here on Fark seem to think that's the answer. It must be acknowledged and dealt with.

We must ensure that Democrats identify an enemy of such vile proportions that any criticism of crappy Democratic policies can easily be met with "well, at least we're slightly better than that other guy."


Plenty to choose from.
 
2021-06-10 3:42:17 PM  

MattytheMouse: Going forward in this thread, I'm just gonna say: there's a stark difference between ignoring Trump and Trumpism and simply not platforming it. What Jimmy here is saying is "we need to challenge it in the market place of ideas," and that's a bad thing, because of the proverbial market place of ideas actually worked, then we wouldn't have a flourishing flat earth movement, or doctors standing before city counsels saying that vaccines turn people into magnets.

The media's failure again and again is that they keep bringing these dummies on and won't push through their bad faith bull shiat to articulately spell out that they're dangerous, assuming that their fascism is self-evident unto itself.


Yep. Treating anything - a person or an idea - as an opponent implies that it's worthy of combat. That's what platforming did - platforming established these crazies and fascists as peers, and their craziness & fascism as worthy of debate.

Deplatforming works.
 
2021-06-10 3:42:18 PM  
Acosta:  We need Trump to continue to be relevant so we don't lose viewers, cause politics is boring without him.
 
2021-06-10 3:42:24 PM  

MattytheMouse: Going forward in this thread, I'm just gonna say: there's a stark difference between ignoring Trump and Trumpism and simply not platforming it. What Jimmy here is saying is "we need to challenge it in the market place of ideas," and that's a bad thing, because of the proverbial market place of ideas actually worked, then we wouldn't have a flourishing flat earth movement, or doctors standing before city counsels saying that vaccines turn people into magnets.

The media's failure again and again is that they keep bringing these dummies on and won't push through their bad faith bull shiat to articulately spell out that they're dangerous, assuming that their fascism is self-evident unto itself.


"Not platforming it", how?

You can unionize up all the media you can to deplatform Trump. But you absolutely will not get the ones that matter. Fox, OANN, NewsMax, etc. Those are the networks that feed his supporters.

Personally, I want to know what those idiots are up to. YMMV.
 
2021-06-10 3:43:16 PM  

Gin Buddy: misanthropicsob: king of vegas: He's right you know.

You can't ignore Trump and Trumpism although so many people here on Fark seem to think that's the answer. It must be acknowledged and dealt with.

We must ensure that Democrats identify an enemy of such vile proportions that any criticism of crappy Democratic policies can easily be met with "well, at least we're slightly better than that other guy."

Trump wanted to be a dictator and his followers tried to make that happen. You think that's something that we should ignore?


Nope. But there's a difference between criticizing and prosecuting it and having 15-20 links/stories on Trump each day.
 
2021-06-10 3:44:21 PM  
fark man, this thread makes me legit angry. I deal with enough goobers on Twitter that are like "you should hear what they have to say," as if I don't already know what they're saying.
 
2021-06-10 3:44:34 PM  

MattytheMouse: Also, instead of platforming these dummies, they should be spelling out in no uncertain terms that these guys are fascists.

FFS... Jim Acosta is gonna learn what leftist YouTubers learned years ago: bringing on fascists to have a friendly conversation and debunk their ideas is not how you deal with this shiat. They're just taking advantage of your platform and organizational skills to spread their bullshiat with bad faith rhetorical tactics and flat out lies. It's better just to ignore them and clearly and articulately point out again and again that they're dangerous farking idiots.


My approach is to frame everything appropriately. So when trump spouts his latest bit of idiotic blather, the article should be a short blurb with something like

As prosecutors in (insert jurisdiction) continue building a criminal case against the twice-impeached former president for his role in (insert crime committed by/involving Trump), the disgraced politician tried to distract attention by repeating his unhinged theories that he somehow is still president, despite being the clear results (Trump lost the 2020 US Presidential election by a count of 306-232 in the electoral college, and by over 7 million votes in the popular vote, to President Biden, who won with the highest-ever number of popular votes).  Prosecutors have released little information regarding (insert crime), but a large amount of publicly available evidence has already surfaced, such as (insert known trump action involving crime).

This way we're still keeping tabs on the perp, but not giving credence to his idiocy.
 
2021-06-10 3:46:04 PM  
NYT recently analyzed the spread of disinformation before and after Trump's social media bans.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2​0​21/06/07/technology/trump-social-media​-ban.html

FTA: Disinformation researchers say the difference points to the enormous power the social media companies have in curbing political misinformation, if they choose to wield it.

TLDR; deplatforming works and we have the data to back it up.
 
2021-06-10 3:52:57 PM  
Paul Anka and Lisa Simpson - Just don't look
Youtube SlKao_Pox5A


Trump getting cancelled was the best thing that happened to us in his political career.  Which is not how being in public service should work, but here we are.  He needs to stay shut up; stop giving him audiences.
 
2021-06-10 3:53:50 PM  
The federal government could indict and arrest Trump for any number of reasons, put the coup 'tourists' in farking prison for life, and generally go after everyone who is breaking the law.

The fact that they haven't is shameful.
 
2021-06-10 3:55:29 PM  
My grandaddy taught me that you don't turn your back on the rattlers. You watch them slink away or you go at them with that hoe until there's nothing left but mushy pulp.
 
2021-06-10 3:56:11 PM  

Gin Buddy: misanthropicsob: king of vegas: He's right you know.

You can't ignore Trump and Trumpism although so many people here on Fark seem to think that's the answer. It must be acknowledged and dealt with.

We must ensure that Democrats identify an enemy of such vile proportions that any criticism of crappy Democratic policies can easily be met with "well, at least we're slightly better than that other guy."

Trump wanted to be a dictator and his followers tried to make that happen. You think that's something that we should ignore?


Democrats are not just wanting to be dictators, they are actively trying to pass laws so they can be.  HB1/SB1, pressuring moderate Dems to get rid of the filibuster.

If DC or PR voted Republican, there is o% chance that Dems would support statehood.
 
2021-06-10 3:56:18 PM  

PanicAttack: NYT recently analyzed the spread of disinformation before and after Trump's social media bans.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/20​21/06/07/technology/trump-social-media​-ban.html

FTA: Disinformation researchers say the difference points to the enormous power the social media companies have in curbing political misinformation, if they choose to wield it.

TLDR; deplatforming works and we have the data to back it up.


Deplatforming isn't the same as news reporting, though. He can be denied a platform on social media and yet still spread his poison throughout the GOP (as is currently happening), which deserves to be reported on.

// and Acosta has already taken a headbutt for Trump's sins
// Somacandra: sure smells like the Acosta Flu to me... Schultzy?
 
2021-06-10 3:56:22 PM  
I am not ignoring Trumpism.

But until the 2024 election season and if Trump is still a running candidate, I ain't paying attention to a Got Damn word that comes out of his orange pie hole.
 
2021-06-10 3:56:35 PM  

syrynxx: Just let me have a little bit of peril!


NO. It's too perilous.
 
2021-06-10 3:57:56 PM  

GitOffaMyLawn: Your opportunity to push back was before he was elected president, and during his time in office.You failed at both. Repeatedly. With some of the sorriest excuses, false equivalences, and what-aboutisms I have ever read. Excuses that would not have been tolerated by my parents by the time I was 6. You're just looking for those sweet, sweet clicks, and that lucrative audience share.

If your reports don't sound like this:
Turnip and his scallions broadcast another weepy lie today on OAN / Fox News / Newsmax.
Turnip followers are trying once again to subvert democracy, using lies as "evidence".

Now for some puppy pictures.

You're doing it wrong, and you deserve no clicks nor audience.


This. All of this. I'm beyond tired of being preached to by the same assholes who refused to use the word "racist" to describe him, his public statements and his policies. If you're not willing to actually call him what he is, you're in no position to lecture the rest of us for not wanting to listen to your stenography of the daily derp. fark that.
 
2021-06-10 3:58:02 PM  
This is America. We punch Nazis in the face repeatedly, remove them from power in any way possible, using laws to our advantage, and break up their little domestic terror meetings, until their supporters depressingly slink back to their farking man-caves and self-Hemingway.

RICO Act these sons of biatches. That's how we dealt with the mob. That's how we should deal with these terrorists.
 
2021-06-10 4:00:26 PM  

DarnoKonrad: there's a space between 'ignore' and 'cheer-lead' and the media hasn't found it.


Jesus Christ, this.
 
2021-06-10 4:00:26 PM  

MattytheMouse: Counter point: Trumpism became a thing because we kept giving that idiot a microphone every time he wanted to mouth fart his garbage opinions.

When I come in here and say "ignore Trump," I'm not saying "let's just ignore the encroaching fascism and hope it goes away." I'm saying that major media outlets should stop publishing the things Trump says and does as of he has anything constructive to add. There's a reason he was kicked off every major social media platform and it's because nothing good can come from platforming him.


Every single time he farted out a Tweet his CHUD followers would love it and the 'liberal media" and liberals would go nuts clutching pearls.  OMG LOOK WHAT HE SAID *faints*

Which would make the CHUDs even happier.  It would make them love Trump even more because he was "triggering the libs".

The media (and thus Fark and most other news aggregators) would do the same.  I swear to God Fark greenlit 10,000 Trump tweets over the last 4 years and it ALWAYS made large threads.

Sure, pay attention to Trump.  What he DOES not what he SAYS.  The Trump Administration managed to do a bunch of stuff that flew under the radar because everyone was flipping out over his goddamn Tweets.
 
2021-06-10 4:00:29 PM  

desertratt: Democrats are not just wanting to be dictators, they are actively trying to pass laws so they can be.  HB1/SB1, pressuring moderate Dems to get rid of the filibuster.


The filibuster has allowed Mitch to be a dictator. It should go; it isn't what the Founders wanted.

If DC or PR voted Republican, there is o% chance that Dems would support statehood.

Too bad you can't prove that. All that we can prove is that the fact that they might support Dems means that not a single Republican supports it. All we know for sure is that your side is bad.
 
2021-06-10 4:01:59 PM  

PanicAttack: NYT recently analyzed the spread of disinformation before and after Trump's social media bans.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/20​21/06/07/technology/trump-social-media​-ban.html

FTA: Disinformation researchers say the difference points to the enormous power the social media companies have in curbing political misinformation, if they choose to wield it.

TLDR; deplatforming works and we have the data to back it up.


Problem is that said social media companies would lose a lot of $$$$$$$ if they tried to regulate themselves properly. Do you think that Zuckerberg gives a single crap about people abusing Facebook to those ends? No, every new account = more $$$ in his pockets.
 
2021-06-10 4:06:22 PM  
ooga booga!
 
2021-06-10 4:06:48 PM  

gunga galunga: I am not ignoring Trumpism.

But until the 2024 election season and if Trump is still a running candidate, I ain't paying attention to a Got Damn word that comes out of his orange pie hole.


If the Republicans win back the House (and they might), there's talk of installing Trump as Speaker--which, unlike Trump's other boasts--is actually legal.
 
2021-06-10 4:08:44 PM  
There is a difference between ignoring a threat and starving it.

/ also applies to trolls
 
2021-06-10 4:08:54 PM  
CNN: 'Our ratings are so bad we need people to talk about Trump again.'

Some future CNN Headlines:

CNN: 'We were wrong about Russia Collusion for 4 years but Trump!'
CNN: 'We we wrong about Trump clearing the park during his visit to a Church but Trump!'
CNN: 'We were wrong about hydroxychloroquine fro treating Coivd-19 but Trump!'
CNN: 'We were wrong about Covington but Trump!'

/Actually CNN would never admit they were wrong.
 
2021-06-10 4:09:59 PM  

BeotchPudding: CNN: 'Our ratings are so bad we need people to talk about Trump again.'

Some future CNN Headlines:

CNN: 'We were wrong about Russia Collusion for 4 years but Trump!'
CNN: 'We we wrong about Trump clearing the park during his visit to a Church but Trump!'
CNN: 'We were wrong about hydroxychloroquine fro treating Coivd-19 but Trump!'
CNN: 'We were wrong about Covington but Trump!'

/Actually CNN would never admit they were wrong.


Username checks out
 
2021-06-10 4:17:43 PM  
"If we didn't cover Trump 24/7, we might have to cover how Biden is failing, and doing work is hard."
 
2021-06-10 4:18:43 PM  

BeotchPudding: '

/Actually CNN would never admit they were wrong.


So they're exactly like Trump then?

How ironic.
 
2021-06-10 4:19:42 PM  
Jim, if the media had just STFU about him in 2016, he would have lost bigly.
 
2021-06-10 4:20:54 PM  

BeotchPudding: Actually CNN would never admit they were wrong.


They issue weekly corrections. There's this cool new thing called "Google" and it will show you many wonderful things...
 
2021-06-10 4:22:58 PM  

MattytheMouse: Counter point: Trumpism became a thing because we kept giving that idiot a microphone every time he wanted to mouth fart his garbage opinions.

When I come in here and say "ignore Trump," I'm not saying "let's just ignore the encroaching fascism and hope it goes away." I'm saying that major media outlets should stop publishing the things Trump says and does as of he has anything constructive to add. There's a reason he was kicked off every major social media platform and it's because nothing good can come from platforming him.


The one problem I see with that is we won't know the talking points that are coming, we won't know the plans.

Sure, they'll be filtered to us through Fox and other right wing opinion rags, but at that point we are on our back foot because the talking point has been disseminated, it is now the equivalent to the word of God, and its been reinforced with their "facts" and "evidence."

No doubt those facts and evidence are complete bullshiat if not outright lies, but it will still be the line they'll hold.

Honestly I don't know how it should be handled, but I think they need to find a way that isn't just reporting he said something.  If he releases his tweet in press release form, maybe they only bring it up if it has info that can be torn to shreds and only report on it where it is a point by point refutation of the statement.  And then if it's one of his dumbass "I won!  Look at how devoted my followers are.  I am the best.  I did the best, the smartest people say so" schpeels, don't bother reporting on it.  There's nothing new that hasn't been thoroughly debunked.

Only report on it if it is new bullshiat and don't report on it in the sense that they're just letting us know dumb words came from him, but a line by line breakdown of why it is bullshiat.
 
2021-06-10 4:29:46 PM  

Dr Dreidel: PanicAttack: NYT recently analyzed the spread of disinformation before and after Trump's social media bans.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/20​21/06/07/technology/trump-social-media​-ban.html

FTA: Disinformation researchers say the difference points to the enormous power the social media companies have in curbing political misinformation, if they choose to wield it.

TLDR; deplatforming works and we have the data to back it up.

Deplatforming isn't the same as news reporting, though. He can be denied a platform on social media and yet still spread his poison throughout the GOP (as is currently happening), which deserves to be reported on.

// and Acosta has already taken a headbutt for Trump's sins
// Somacandra: sure smells like the Acosta Flu to me... Schultzy?


News media have an even greater responsibility to not spread disinformation than social media. Giving Trump or others an avenue to continue to spread disinformation continues to bolster their cause.

News media are so afraid of losing access that they continue to have liars and gaslighters on their shows unchallenged. Chuck Todd is the perfect example.

So yes, it's the same thing when the media does nothing but act as a defacto PR firm to spread propaganda. The effect is much more effective since it's from a "trusted" source and the results are worse for democracy.
 
2021-06-10 4:31:49 PM  
Huh? Who's ignoring him? Just don't air his stupid rally speeches or interview him. Make it clear that he's an idiot and an asshole, and use adult language, like news people should have done since 2015. We're all tired of seeing his fat, orange face and hearing that stupid, raspy voice.
 
2021-06-10 4:32:57 PM  

JAGChem82: PanicAttack: NYT recently analyzed the spread of disinformation before and after Trump's social media bans.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/20​21/06/07/technology/trump-social-media​-ban.html

FTA: Disinformation researchers say the difference points to the enormous power the social media companies have in curbing political misinformation, if they choose to wield it.

TLDR; deplatforming works and we have the data to back it up.

Problem is that said social media companies would lose a lot of $$$$$$$ if they tried to regulate themselves properly. Do you think that Zuckerberg gives a single crap about people abusing Facebook to those ends? No, every new account = more $$$ in his pockets.


Of course Zuckerberg doesn't give a shiat. He's a sociopath. That wasn't the point of my post. The point was to show how effective social media can be at spreading disinformation and at stopping it when they choose to with data to show the magnitude of those decisions.
 
Displayed 50 of 72 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking




On Twitter


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.