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(The Bulwark)   Democrats, forget trying to push H.R. 1 through. Amend the Electoral Count Act instead   (thebulwark.com) divider line
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5 days ago  
"They can amend the Electoral Count Act of 1887. Republicans would be unlikely to filibuster this law, so Democrats can pass it with a simple majority vote."

And we should believe that, why?
 
5 days ago  

nmrsnr: "They can amend the Electoral Count Act of 1887. Republicans would be unlikely to filibuster this law, so Democrats can pass it with a simple majority vote."

And we should believe that, why?


Because it's weaksauce.
 
5 days ago  
Democrats keep revealing who they are when progressive moments are most needed.

$15 minimum wage? ded

Public option instead of anything else? ded

$2000 check? $1400 delivered. Mission Accomplished

Student loan debt relief. You bet that's ded

Rent deferments? Ending this month

Reverse foreign policy blunders of Hair Sh*thead? LOL FULL THROTTLE!

Reverse tax cuts for the wealthy? Nah, totally ded

Infrastructure program? Tell em what we've won, Navin:

'what i win?' the jerk.
Youtube aUQkbXWwJhQ
 
5 days ago  

nmrsnr: "They can amend the Electoral Count Act of 1887. Republicans would be unlikely to filibuster this law, so Democrats can pass it with a simple majority vote."

And we should believe that, why?


Especially considering the reason the Senate was created.

/on the other hand, I wanna share whatever drugs the author is on, because damn those must be good
 
5 days ago  

Nadie_AZ: Democrats keep revealing who they are when progressive moments are most needed.

$15 minimum wage? ded

Public option instead of anything else? ded

$2000 check? $1400 delivered. Mission Accomplished

Student loan debt relief. You bet that's ded

Rent deferments? Ending this month

Reverse foreign policy blunders of Hair Sh*thead? LOL FULL THROTTLE!

Reverse tax cuts for the wealthy? Nah, totally ded

Infrastructure program? Tell em what we've won, Navin:

[YouTube video: 'what i win?' the jerk.]


Most progressive stimulus since the New Deal? Not "ded"

Stop blaming Democrats for Republican obstruction. If we had 65 votes in the Senate, all of those wish list items would be done and dusted. But we don't. So let's temper expectations and not put the babby out with the bath water.
 
5 days ago  
Democrats have no survival gene. They're too busy being "the adult in the room" to bother with silliness like preserving democracy or fighting back.
 
5 days ago  
"Republicans would be unlikely to filibuster this law, so Democrats can pass it with a simple majority vote." [FTFA]

Why on earth would they support this?? Morals? Bipartisanship? A change of heart about blowing up America Democracy.

The essayist has a good point -- but a horriblynaive expectation.

Republicans are no longer partners in preserving democracy in the USA.  They simply aren't.
 
5 days ago  
Articles: "Democrats, abandon---"

Dems: "Say no more! It's our favorite thing to do <3"
 
5 days ago  
Time for D's to play hardball - get them to pass the Wyoming Rule if they want to block HR 1. That way, California will get more reps than it currently has and the advantage that R's have in terms of the EC diminishes.

You'll be using the carrot/stick approach and would really hurt R's politically. Suddenly, they'd be less willing to filibuster HR 1 with that as the nuclear option.
 
5 days ago  
I love how Democrats get in charge and then all of the sudden nothing they can do or will do is good enough.

While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

HR1 "isn't good enough", the John Lewis bill "isn't good enough", infrastructure without climate isn't good enough.

For fark sake if we do nothing democrats will whine, if we don't run all the way to the left progressives whine...and this is why we will lose in 2022 and probably 2024, and democracy will be doomed. Then they'll blame everyone but themselves for all the bullshiat they whined about.

Pass and/or at least vote on what you ran on and promised. If you can't, get the fark out of office.

Also, fark Manchin and Sinema with big rusty Colonial pipelines
 
5 days ago  
Tick-tock, 2022 is around the corner and R's are salivating, seeing they may have dodged the last bullet as Dems won't do enough in time to stop them in the next election from enacting their voter suppression laws and cement a permanent minority rule.
 
5 days ago  

RasIanI: "Republicans would be unlikely to filibuster this law, so Democrats can pass it with a simple majority vote." [FTFA]

Why on earth would they support this?? Morals? Bipartisanship? A change of heart about blowing up America Democracy.

The essayist has a good point -- but a horriblynaive expectation.

Republicans are no longer partners in preserving democracy in the USA.  They simply aren't.


Republicans in the Senate might let some utterly meaningless and trivial legislation pass and trumpet it as their mighty effort towards bipartisanship.
 
5 days ago  

Nadie_AZ: Democrats keep revealing who they are when progressive moments are most needed.

$15 minimum wage? ded

Public option instead of anything else? ded

$2000 check? $1400 delivered. Mission Accomplished

Student loan debt relief. You bet that's ded

Rent deferments? Ending this month

Reverse foreign policy blunders of Hair Sh*thead? LOL FULL THROTTLE!

Reverse tax cuts for the wealthy? Nah, totally ded

Infrastructure program? Tell em what we've won, Navin:

[YouTube video: 'what i win?' the jerk.]


Notice how it's always someone else's fault as well?
 
5 days ago  
But not all of the measures in these laws are objectionable. Requiring an ID strikes many people as simple common sense. An Economist/YouGov poll in April found that 64 percent of Americans agreed with the statement: "Photo ID should be required to vote in person." Among African Americans, 60 percent agreed. Democrats should not die on this hill.

I seriously have trouble believing the exact same gap in information exists near-universally in the context of voter ID legislation. Requiring an ID to vote isn't a problem by itself, it's that it would grant me even more influence over the workings of this country than someone who is homeless without so much as a wallet to his name, sometimes partly because of the workings of this country.

The first thing most people would complain about after such legislation passed wouldn't be an extra hurdle in doing their civic duty (just look at how people groan when they get jury duty), it'd be how the fees for state ID and license renewals doubled and they have to go an extra few miles to sit in line for an hour because the DMV office they went to last time got closed down. A lot of people wouldn't even make the connection for years, because they aren't paying attention now.
 
5 days ago  
Guys....take it easy. We've got ~600 days before the midterms. And the only Repubs getting the nod are Trump crazies. We can beat those bozos.
 
5 days ago  

Nadie_AZ: Public option instead of anything else? ded


And by "democrats" you mean "exactly one goddamn shiathead named Joe Lieberman."

/fark Lieberman
//and Manchin
///and may the other koch brother who's bought Manchin's betrayal die and burn in hell
 
4 days ago  

OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.


It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

Fark user imageView Full Size


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/​1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
 
4 days ago  
This article: "Hey, Democrats! Have you considered giving up on the most important legislation in at least a decade?"

Moderates: "Way ahead of you, buddy!"
 
4 days ago  
The Bulwark is a news network launched in 2018 dedicated to providing political analysis and reporting free from the constraints of partisan loyalties or tribal prejudices.

SVR
 
4 days ago  
We basically have one party accusing the other of socialism no matter what they do, and the other party is so scared of being called socialist that they concede before negotiations even start.
 
4 days ago  

Petroleum Oligarch: We basically have one party accusing the other of socialism no matter what they do, and the other party is so scared of being called socialist that they concede before negotiations even start.


Working as intended.
 
4 days ago  
This the place where republicans sit back quietly while moderate dems tell progressives to stfu and be happy for what we have?
 
4 days ago  

Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".


Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
Fark user imageView Full Size

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
4 days ago  

Nadie_AZ: Democrats keep revealing who they are when progressive moments are most needed.

$15 minimum wage? ded

Public option instead of anything else? ded

$2000 check? $1400 delivered. Mission Accomplished

Student loan debt relief. You bet that's ded

Rent deferments? Ending this month

Reverse foreign policy blunders of Hair Sh*thead? LOL FULL THROTTLE!

Reverse tax cuts for the wealthy? Nah, totally ded

Infrastructure program? Tell em what we've won, Navin:

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/aUQkbXWw​JhQ]


Here, I just made this for you, fresh off the blue-ray rip. Your post reminded me of a scene from the movie Glory, and I tried to find a meme of it and none existed so I made it.

Fark user imageView Full Size


Don't feel disheartened. And don't stop voting. Yes, it's true the Democrats can't seem to pass their agenda. But the Democrats not passing their agenda is a hell of a lot better than letting the Republicans pass theirs.
 
4 days ago  

OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image image 245x320]
[Fark user image image 245x320]


I had a die hard conservative tell me the other day that aoc is my empress the other day. Sounds like you guys would get along!
 
4 days ago  
Stopped reading right here:
"banning so-called "dark money" at a time when small dollar donations are more important; and limiting speech"

fark off.

The keep farking off.

Stopping dark money has nothing to do with blocking donations (free speech /wanking motion), even small donations.

Dark money is actually large donations coming from 501 political "nonprofits" where they don't have to disclose where the money came from since it is laundered through the nonprofit.

So people are free to continue donating money as they see fit.  It just won't be anonymous.

Both sides of the political spectrum wants to get money out of the picture.  It was one of the defining "platforms for trump." He couldn't be "bought."

I'm assuming the rest of the article is just as farking disingenuous as the this and I'm not going to bother wasting my time reading it.
 
4 days ago  

iheartscotch: Guys....take it easy. We've got ~600 days before the midterms. And the only Repubs getting the nod are Trump crazies. We can beat those bozos.


Only when you can count the votes
 
4 days ago  

OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image image 245x320]
[Fark user image image 245x320]


What about the green new deal didn't you like.  Show your work.
 
4 days ago  

OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image 245x320] [View Full Size image _x_]
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And I was just about to take you seriously.
 
4 days ago  
Free and fair elections is a purity test we shall not demand of Democrats. I bet you want a unicorn too.
 
4 days ago  

Nullav: But not all of the measures in these laws are objectionable. Requiring an ID strikes many people as simple common sense. An Economist/YouGov poll in April found that 64 percent of Americans agreed with the statement: "Photo ID should be required to vote in person." Among African Americans, 60 percent agreed. Democrats should not die on this hill.

I seriously have trouble believing the exact same gap in information exists near-universally in the context of voter ID legislation. Requiring an ID to vote isn't a problem by itself, it's that it would grant me even more influence over the workings of this country than someone who is homeless without so much as a wallet to his name, sometimes partly because of the workings of this country.

The first thing most people would complain about after such legislation passed wouldn't be an extra hurdle in doing their civic duty (just look at how people groan when they get jury duty), it'd be how the fees for state ID and license renewals doubled and they have to go an extra few miles to sit in line for an hour because the DMV office they went to last time got closed down. A lot of people wouldn't even make the connection for years, because they aren't paying attention now.


Here's an idea:  bring it up as a violation of the 24th Amendment.  If you require an ID to vote, and yet you have to pay a fee for said ID, either the law would be declared unconstitutional, or fees for IDs and driver's licenses, including CDLs, would have to be eliminated.  Considering how many millions of drivers there are out there, I highly doubt states would want to lose that revenue.
 
4 days ago  
On one hand, The Bulwark are Republicans, like Triple-A Lincoln Project.

But on the other hand, Bernie is not a Democrat.

🤷🏻♂
 
4 days ago  

nmrsnr: "They can amend the Electoral Count Act of 1887. Republicans would be unlikely to filibuster this law, so Democrats can pass it with a simple majority vote."

And we should believe that, why?


I'm always amused by this level of intellectual laziness as exemplified by what you quoted.

"Republicans would be unlikely to filibuster this law..."  LOL

The Dems could easily do [fill in the blank] despite a razor thin "majority" that includes a handful of uncooperative Democratic legislators, an executive branch still under repair and a federal judiciary recently swelled by Trump appointments.

Why hasn't everything been fixed yet?
 
4 days ago  

dkulprit: OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image image 245x320]
[Fark user image image 245x320]

What about the green new deal didn't you like.  Show your work.


The poster is an Ohio U grad. He can probably barely tie his shoes.
 
4 days ago  

Petroleum Oligarch: dkulprit: OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image image 245x320]
[Fark user image image 245x320]

What about the green new deal didn't you like.  Show your work.

The poster is an Ohio U grad. He can probably barely tie his shoes.


Well, it's not that he graduated from OU necessarily (many come from Cincy and CBUS). The problem is they continue to live in Cincy and or CBUS.

/fled OH decades ago
 
4 days ago  

SplittingAces: Petroleum Oligarch: dkulprit: OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image image 245x320]
[Fark user image image 245x320]

What about the green new deal didn't you like.  Show your work.

The poster is an Ohio U grad. He can probably barely tie his shoes.

Well, it's not that he graduated from OU necessarily (many come from Cincy and CBUS). The problem is they continue to live in Cincy and or CBUS.

/fled OH decades ago


Good move
 
4 days ago  
An article that long should be able to get to calling for the elimination of the electoral college. It didn't.
 
4 days ago  
A simple bill, just amend the Law that sets the house to 438, to set the district to 600k ish  with a lower limit of say, the population of the least populated state or the average of the 3 least poplulated, and an upper limit of not more than 10% higher. then reset it with every census.
 
4 days ago  

OhioUGrad: typical AOC bootlicker.


You might want to see a professional. I doubt anyone of FARK is qualified to help you.
/Consider Lithium
 
4 days ago  
It  burns
 
4 days ago  

Petroleum Oligarch: SplittingAces: Petroleum Oligarch: dkulprit: OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image image 245x320]
[Fark user image image 245x320]

What about the green new deal didn't you like.  Show your work.

The poster is an Ohio U grad. He can probably barely tie his shoes.

Well, it's not that he graduated from OU necessarily (many come from Cincy and CBUS). The problem is they continue to live in Cincy and or CBUS.

/fled OH decades ago

Good move


For sure, and that's saying something since I live in TX. The secret to tolerating TX is living in the "big city" proper (Dallas in my case). The burbs are largely a lost cause because transplants often flee from places like Ohio.

A group I'm involved with recently shifted the Dallas City Council to its most "progressive" stance since I've moved over 20 years ago, thanks to hard grass roots work.

It may be  a small victory, but hard work can bring about change.
 
4 days ago  

OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image image 245x320]
[Fark user image image 245x320]


Good. fark off. Go join trumps cult.
 
4 days ago  

bluorangefyre: Nullav: But not all of the measures in these laws are objectionable. Requiring an ID strikes many people as simple common sense. An Economist/YouGov poll in April found that 64 percent of Americans agreed with the statement: "Photo ID should be required to vote in person." Among African Americans, 60 percent agreed. Democrats should not die on this hill.

I seriously have trouble believing the exact same gap in information exists near-universally in the context of voter ID legislation. Requiring an ID to vote isn't a problem by itself, it's that it would grant me even more influence over the workings of this country than someone who is homeless without so much as a wallet to his name, sometimes partly because of the workings of this country.

The first thing most people would complain about after such legislation passed wouldn't be an extra hurdle in doing their civic duty (just look at how people groan when they get jury duty), it'd be how the fees for state ID and license renewals doubled and they have to go an extra few miles to sit in line for an hour because the DMV office they went to last time got closed down. A lot of people wouldn't even make the connection for years, because they aren't paying attention now.

Here's an idea:  bring it up as a violation of the 24th Amendment.  If you require an ID to vote, and yet you have to pay a fee for said ID, either the law would be declared unconstitutional, or fees for IDs and driver's licenses, including CDLs, would have to be eliminated.  Considering how many millions of drivers there are out there, I highly doubt states would want to lose that revenue.


The state will then offer a no cost ID while charging fees for driver's licenses. They may require some number of other legal hoops which can be bypassed by just getting your DL if they feel like being jerks about it, but they can say "well, there's a free option, people just don't want it".
 
4 days ago  

SplittingAces: Petroleum Oligarch: SplittingAces: Petroleum Oligarch: dkulprit: OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

[Fark user image 750x998]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
[Fark user image image 245x320]
[Fark user image image 245x320]

What about the green new deal didn't you like.  Show your work.

The poster is an Ohio U grad. He can probably barely tie his shoes.

Well, it's not that he graduated from OU necessarily (many come from Cincy and CBUS). The problem is they continue to live in Cincy and or CBUS.

/fled OH decades ago

Good move

For sure, and that's saying something since I live in TX. The secret to tolerating TX is living in the "big city" proper (Dallas in my case). The burbs are largely a lost cause because transplants often flee from places like Ohio.

A group I'm involved with recently shifted the Dallas City Council to its most "progressive" stance since I've moved over 20 years ago, thanks to hard grass roots work.

It may be  a small victory, but hard work can bring about change.


And having access to fire Mexican food. I went to new Mexico last year and the food blew my mind
 
4 days ago  
I'm sure once Dems have figured out how to stay in power forever they'll get around to some kind of legislation that actually helps somebody.
 
4 days ago  

Nullav: But not all of the measures in these laws are objectionable. Requiring an ID strikes many people as simple common sense. An Economist/YouGov poll in April found that 64 percent of Americans agreed with the statement: "Photo ID should be required to vote in person." Among African Americans, 60 percent agreed. Democrats should not die on this hill.

I seriously have trouble believing the exact same gap in information exists near-universally in the context of voter ID legislation. Requiring an ID to vote isn't a problem by itself, it's that it would grant me even more influence over the workings of this country than someone who is homeless without so much as a wallet to his name, sometimes partly because of the workings of this country.

The first thing most people would complain about after such legislation passed wouldn't be an extra hurdle in doing their civic duty (just look at how people groan when they get jury duty), it'd be how the fees for state ID and license renewals doubled and they have to go an extra few miles to sit in line for an hour because the DMV office they went to last time got closed down. A lot of people wouldn't even make the connection for years, because they aren't paying attention now.


The problem with the Republican version of a voter ID law is the address match requirement.

Poor people and young people move much more frequently, often yearly or more, and would need to get a new ID just before each election with that new address.  That's why it's not about fraud, it's about disenfranchisement
 
4 days ago  

GrizzlyPouch: I'm sure once Dems have figured out how to stay in power forever they'll get around to some kind of legislation that actually helps somebody.


Seems like the gop has. Are they gonna start helping anytime soon?
 
4 days ago  

Petroleum Oligarch: GrizzlyPouch: I'm sure once Dems have figured out how to stay in power forever they'll get around to some kind of legislation that actually helps somebody.

Seems like the gop has. Are they gonna start helping anytime soon?


What are you talking about? They will bust unions, force their religious as public policy, keep us on cheap gas, and cheaper Chinese made goods. Cut funding to everything but the bare necessities domestically, and turn our private parks and publicly owned lands in to strip mined hell mouths to turn a profit for someone, not the American people, and push aggressive military actions to keep market growth steady in petroleum and construction. These are all net positives in conservative land. And any dissent from these actions is met with a middle finger and a lengthy prison term for questioning the righteousness of the party.

We'll be BEGGING China to invade and over throw us.
 
4 days ago  

Night Train to Wakanda: Petroleum Oligarch: GrizzlyPouch: I'm sure once Dems have figured out how to stay in power forever they'll get around to some kind of legislation that actually helps somebody.

Seems like the gop has. Are they gonna start helping anytime soon?

What are you talking about? They will bust unions, force their religious as public policy, keep us on cheap gas, and cheaper Chinese made goods. Cut funding to everything but the bare necessities domestically, and turn our private parks and publicly owned lands in to strip mined hell mouths to turn a profit for someone, not the American people, and push aggressive military actions to keep market growth steady in petroleum and construction. These are all net positives in conservative land. And any dissent from these actions is met with a middle finger and a lengthy prison term for questioning the righteousness of the party.

We'll be BEGGING China to invade and over throw us.


I can't imagine a scenario where anyone would beg for that.

Democracy is a process, not a party. As long as we have the process, theres hope. China doesn't have it at all.
 
4 days ago  

OhioUGrad: Bith Set Me Up: OhioUGrad: While I want them to pass as much as they can that is as progressive as we can get, this purity bullshiat is pissing me the fark off.

It isn't "purity" people want, it's adequacy.

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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/1​0/becoming-aoc-cover-story-2020

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".

Of course, you'd be a typical AOC bootlicker.

That's rich worshipping someone who took someone else's idea and put forth a half-baked New Green Deal. If she's the face of the party, like the Fark AOC cult (similar to the Dotard cult) want, moving forward, the Democrats will lose my vote.

Guess you can mark me as "told you so" when nothing gets passed and we lose in 2022 and the US falls apart. See ya then!

"Purity tests" are what mediocre, small-minded people call "standards and expectations".
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It's not a farking purity test, that phrase of dismissiveness is like putting hands over your ears and sing-songing LALALALALALALA.
it's despair and the knowledge that the country some of us trusted to do at least mostly the right thing FOR THE PEOPLE appears to have gotten lost on their way to serving and being for the country.
I try to ignore the probability of leaving this earth thoroughly disenchanted (perhaps I should say disenfranchised) and at a low seeth because of ceasefires in this civil war against hostile oppression OF OUR OWN PEOPLE.

But hey, if your life hasn't changed and you don't accept the hardships, suffering, and lack of funding for things that have been known for 100s of years to raise the people, the towns, the country, well...
 
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