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(MSN)   "Economic anxiety", pretrial release to mommy and daddy's $4.5-million-dollar waterfront mansion edition   (msn.com) divider line
    More: Followup, Chicago, Chicago Tribune, Christian Kulas, Chicago Sun-Times, WFLD, Kulas' possible participation, unnamed witness, Sun-Times Media Group  
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5 days ago  
The gilded jail cell. With pool, sauna, game room. Does this qualify as cruel and unusual?
 
5 days ago  
Imma get "Economic Anxiety" tattooed on my junk.
 
5 days ago  
What's sad is that a good deal of the people who stormed the capital on Jan 6 are the same people who would be the first to be thrown into a guillotine during the revolution.

These are spoiled, rich, detached and radicalized assholes who think their money justifies literal murder tourism.
 
5 days ago  

felching pen: The gilded jail cell. With pool, sauna, game room. Does this qualify as cruel and unusual?


This is pre-trial.  Cruel and unusual only applies to post-conviction.
 
5 days ago  
Rich people get special privileges, no matter what they did.  Ric Romero reports.
 
5 days ago  
Rich Republican dipshiat.

Figures.
 
5 days ago  
I heard the cook didn't have his favorite foods in stock, the monster. How can we have people suffer like this?
 
5 days ago  
Reminds me of the "affluenza kid".

// parents are probably going to look for that lawyer.
 
5 days ago  
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5 days ago  

hardinparamedic: What's sad is that a good deal of the people who stormed the capital on Jan 6 are the same people who would be the first to be thrown into a guillotine during the revolution.

These are spoiled, rich, detached and radicalized assholes who think their money justifies literal murder tourism.


It's like Trotsky and his well-educated upper middle class friends learning the hard way what kind of thumb breakers come to power when your little revolution actually succeeds. Except minus the well-educated part.
 
5 days ago  
Kalief Browder, Jailed For Years Without Trial, Kills Himself

Kalief Browder, the young man who was held for years in a New York jail without a trial, killed himself on Saturday.

Browder was the subject of a profile in The New Yorker. He was 16 years old when he was arrested for allegedly stealing a backpack. Because his family was unable to raise his $10,000 bail, Browder languished at Rikers Island for three years awaiting trial.
...

The Los Angeles Times spoke to Browder's lawyer on Sunday. Paul V. Prestia said that all those years in jail took an unbearable toll on Browder.

The Times reports:

" 'I think what caused the suicide was his incarceration and those hundreds and hundreds of nights in solitary confinement, where there were mice crawling up his sheets in that little cell,' Prestia said in a phone interview Sunday evening. 'Being starved, and not being taken to the shower for two weeks at a time ... those were direct contributing factors. ... That was the pain and sadness that he had to deal with every day, and I think it was too much for him.'

"Prestia then became emotional, his voice wavering as he recalled Browder, whom he said hadn't had mental health problems before he was arrested and jailed in 2010.

" 'He was a good friend of mine - I wasn't just his attorney, you know?' Prestia went silent for a few seconds, then continued: 'He was a really good kid.' "
 
5 days ago  
Dude looks like Blake Anderson

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/on an unrelated note.  If someone ever does a Cliff Burton biopic, that's your guy.
 
5 days ago  

Soup4Bonnie: Kalief Browder, Jailed For Years Without Trial, Kills Himself

Kalief Browder, the young man who was held for years in a New York jail without a trial, killed himself on Saturday.

Browder was the subject of a profile in The New Yorker. He was 16 years old when he was arrested for allegedly stealing a backpack. Because his family was unable to raise his $10,000 bail, Browder languished at Rikers Island for three years awaiting trial.
...

The Los Angeles Times spoke to Browder's lawyer on Sunday. Paul V. Prestia said that all those years in jail took an unbearable toll on Browder.

The Times reports:

" 'I think what caused the suicide was his incarceration and those hundreds and hundreds of nights in solitary confinement, where there were mice crawling up his sheets in that little cell,' Prestia said in a phone interview Sunday evening. 'Being starved, and not being taken to the shower for two weeks at a time ... those were direct contributing factors. ... That was the pain and sadness that he had to deal with every day, and I think it was too much for him.'

"Prestia then became emotional, his voice wavering as he recalled Browder, whom he said hadn't had mental health problems before he was arrested and jailed in 2010.

" 'He was a good friend of mine - I wasn't just his attorney, you know?' Prestia went silent for a few seconds, then continued: 'He was a really good kid.' "


This IS AMERICA, after all....
 
5 days ago  
"Christian Kulas, 24, was arrested Tuesday in connection to the Capitol riot"

As I've written before, all christians are the same - nothing but vile, lying, nazi trash.
 
5 days ago  
No matter how rich and spoiled, I don't see most of these asshats getting out of doing some jail time. It will probably be minimal compared to what the average citizen would get, and a slap on the wrist compared to what a black/brown person would get, but they will probably all see the inside of a cell.

I can only hope that their fellow inmates treat them like the terrorists that they are and they get a well-placed shiv.
 
5 days ago  
A rich white asshole. Or, rather, like his hero, a white asshole with rich parents. Shocking.
 
5 days ago  
So:

1. That's a dude?
2. He's charged with 2 misdemeanors. Seems appropriate to release him.
 
5 days ago  

gopher321: Imma get "Economic Anxiety" tattooed on my junk.


Only made it to "Economi" before I ran out of length. Use a small font, guys.
 
5 days ago  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]


"One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capital!"

Pretty sure this is referencing the lady who bragged about flying in on a private jet. Note, it wasn't hers. There's plenty of material to work with, so please stop misrepresenting the facts. In all honesty, there were tour busses of folks coming in from all over. A lot of it was heavily funded, but I doubt it was rich people getting bussed in.

Good mix of crazy rich folks and "salt of the Earth" (dirt) types.
 
5 days ago  

razrez75: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]

"One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capital!"

Pretty sure this is referencing the lady who bragged about flying in on a private jet. Note, it wasn't hers. There's plenty of material to work with, so please stop misrepresenting the facts. In all honesty, there were tour busses of folks coming in from all over. A lot of it was heavily funded, but I doubt it was rich people getting bussed in.

Good mix of crazy rich folks and "salt of the Earth" (dirt) types.


If it wasn't clear, I meant rich folks who are crazy. Not "crazy rich" as in "Crazy Rich Asians." Highly doubt there were any billionaires in the crowd (including the speaker... tee hee hee).
 
5 days ago  

Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]


This completely misses the point that you can be a working person and set your own hours. A plumber or hair stylist or fisherman or day labourer can decide when and where they work, and have more freedom with their schedule than your typical wage slave stuck in an office or assembly line.

Next we'll learn that the rioters and looters last summer couldn't possibly be "working class" because working class people have to wake up early in the morning and there's no way they could have been out late at night stealing TVs and liquor.

Dumb argument is dumb.
 
5 days ago  

razrez75: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]

"One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capital!"

Pretty sure this is referencing the lady who bragged about flying in on a private jet. Note, it wasn't hers. There's plenty of material to work with, so please stop misrepresenting the facts. In all honesty, there were tour busses of folks coming in from all over. A lot of it was heavily funded, but I doubt it was rich people getting bussed in.

Good mix of crazy rich folks and "salt of the Earth" (dirt) types.



There was more than one private jet:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/​0​3/a-private-jet-of-rich-trumpers-wante​d-to-stop-the-steal
 
5 days ago  
Yet another one running home to his mommy. What is with these guys?
 
5 days ago  
Wypipo Woodstock.

The only penalty that guy will ever face will be - at best - wearing an ankle bracelet inside that palace...
 
5 days ago  

felching pen: The gilded jail cell. With pool, sauna, game room. Does this qualify as cruel and unusual?


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5 days ago  
I don't think all welathy people are bad.  But kids who grew up wealthy are almost universally bad.
 
5 days ago  
Because, of course.

The well-off have their own justice system. Folks will probably fly him off to a non-extradition country.
 
5 days ago  

duppy: razrez75: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]

"One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capital!"

Pretty sure this is referencing the lady who bragged about flying in on a private jet. Note, it wasn't hers. There's plenty of material to work with, so please stop misrepresenting the facts. In all honesty, there were tour busses of folks coming in from all over. A lot of it was heavily funded, but I doubt it was rich people getting bussed in.

Good mix of crazy rich folks and "salt of the Earth" (dirt) types.


There was more than one private jet:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/0​3/a-private-jet-of-rich-trumpers-wante​d-to-stop-the-steal


Probably not worth getting into a long conversation, but that jet is also owned by a dude.
 
5 days ago  

razrez75: duppy: razrez75: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]

"One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capital!"

Pretty sure this is referencing the lady who bragged about flying in on a private jet. Note, it wasn't hers. There's plenty of material to work with, so please stop misrepresenting the facts. In all honesty, there were tour busses of folks coming in from all over. A lot of it was heavily funded, but I doubt it was rich people getting bussed in.

Good mix of crazy rich folks and "salt of the Earth" (dirt) types.


There was more than one private jet:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/0​3/a-private-jet-of-rich-trumpers-wante​d-to-stop-the-steal

Probably not worth getting into a long conversation, but that jet is also owned by a dude.


Sure. Then let's say "People took private jets to the insurrection" so you can stop splitting this asinine and pointless hair.
 
5 days ago  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Rich people get special privileges, no matter what they did.  Ric Romero reports.


Innocent until proven guilty. Ric Romero reports.
 
5 days ago  
I love the repeated hammering of the "this guy wears Burberry!!! Designer clothes!!!" message, as though that's somehow a blatant indicator of a contemptible aristocrat. Ashley Collman must have interned at the Daily Mail.
 
5 days ago  

austerity101: razrez75: duppy: razrez75: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]

"One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capital!"

...

Probably not worth getting into a long conversation, but that jet is also owned by a dude.

Sure. Then let's say "People took private jets to the insurrection" so you can stop splitting this asinine and pointless hair.


Works for me. Straightforward and honest.
 
5 days ago  
Just a few notes:  this makes a mockery of the phrase "cruel and unusual pushishment", it is a rare example of a case in which the Judge should be hanged, and boy, they sure do pack those waterfront mansions in tight on the North Shore.

Looks distinctly lower upper class or even upper middle class to me.

Well, I guess I have covered the accused, the judge, the accused's family and their neighbours and class, so I will bid you adieu.
 
5 days ago  

BigNumber12: I love the repeated hammering of the "this guy wears Burberry!!! Designer clothes!!!" message, as though that's somehow a blatant indicator of a contemptible aristocrat. Ashley Collman must have interned at the Daily Mail.


Yeah, the article's weird about that. I think it says "wearing designer clothes" every single time the dude is mentioned.

/I have a Burberry wallet
//Doesn't define me
///Wouldn't be able to attend something like this from CO, but did drive up from SC for the Rally to Restore Sanity back in the day...
 
5 days ago  
American justice , the best money can buy ..
 
5 days ago  

mcmnky: Benevolent Misanthrope: Rich people get special privileges, no matter what they did.  Ric Romero reports.

Innocent until proven guilty. Ric Romero reports.


I'm sure this is the guy who went there for the sightseeing tour ..
 
5 days ago  

mcmnky: Benevolent Misanthrope: Rich people get special privileges, no matter what they did.  Ric Romero reports.

Innocent until proven guilty. Ric Romero reports.


Not saying he's guilty.  I'm saying he getting different treatment from other insurrectionists who don't have mommy and daddy's money.
 
5 days ago  

razrez75: austerity101: razrez75: duppy: razrez75: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]

"One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capital!"

...

Probably not worth getting into a long conversation, but that jet is also owned by a dude.

Sure. Then let's say "People took private jets to the insurrection" so you can stop splitting this asinine and pointless hair.

Works for me. Straightforward and honest.


Great.

razrez is on board, everyone! Glad we got that cleared up. I was so worried. Finally we have permission to hate rich insurrectionists again. Because we all know the most important thing when it comes to class warfare is a pointless obsession with detail.
 
5 days ago  
In the next couple of years, we're gonna see the two tiered justice system play out royally as the few rich people who were there skate and the poor rednecks get 10 years.
 
5 days ago  

austerity101: razrez75: austerity101: razrez75: duppy: razrez75: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]

"One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capital!"

...

Probably not worth getting into a long conversation, but that jet is also owned by a dude.

... we all know the most important thing when it comes to class warfare is honesty. a pointless obsession with detail.


FTFY.
 
5 days ago  

hardinparamedic: What's sad is that a good deal of the people who stormed the capital on Jan 6 are the same people who would be the first to be thrown into a guillotine during the revolution.

These are spoiled, rich, detached and radicalized assholes who think their money justifies literal murder tourism.


There was a study a bit back that found most successful revolutions involved the upper middle class, not just those actually suffering at the bottom.
 
5 days ago  

fortheloveof: hardinparamedic: What's sad is that a good deal of the people who stormed the capital on Jan 6 are the same people who would be the first to be thrown into a guillotine during the revolution.

These are spoiled, rich, detached and radicalized assholes who think their money justifies literal murder tourism.

There was a study a bit back that found most successful revolutions involved the upper middle class, not just those actually suffering at the bottom.


Yup. Revolution's not free. It's easy to stir up trouble. Much harder to sustain it.
 
5 days ago  
I read yesterday that Mumsy and Daddy own a maid service. So they're living large off the sweat of people who are cleaning toilets and decrusting filthy microwave ovens for a living, but they're the true victims here, being marginalized by the woke hordes of Biden voters. Won't somebody please think of the parasites?
 
5 days ago  

OhioUGrad: No matter how rich and spoiled, I don't see most of these asshats getting out of doing some jail time. It will probably be minimal compared to what the average citizen would get, and a slap on the wrist compared to what a black/brown person would get, but they will probably all see the inside of a cell.

I can only hope that their fellow inmates treat them like the terrorists that they are and they get a well-placed shiv.


This is America. They are rich, white, and Republican. They aren't going to see shiat. They'll likely get a farking medal, because this is who we are. Half of us are fascists. The other half are cowards.
 
5 days ago  

razrez75: fortheloveof: hardinparamedic: What's sad is that a good deal of the people who stormed the capital on Jan 6 are the same people who would be the first to be thrown into a guillotine during the revolution.

These are spoiled, rich, detached and radicalized assholes who think their money justifies literal murder tourism.

There was a study a bit back that found most successful revolutions involved the upper middle class, not just those actually suffering at the bottom.

Yup. Revolution's not free. It's easy to stir up trouble. Much harder to sustain it.


That and they have the long term skillsets to push for a viable ending to the revolution.

Turns out when you have no resources and are constantly hungry the problems immediately infront of you is all you consider.
 
5 days ago  
Affluenza Kid II: MAGAt Edition
 
5 days ago  

razrez75: So:

1. That's a dude?
2. He's charged with 2 misdemeanors. Seems appropriate to release him.


They should all be released, bail isn't supposed to be the default, it's supposed to be the outlier. Until you plead guilty or are convicted, then in this country, you are seen as innocent by law. That means that you should only be incarcerated when there is a chance that you will either flee or cause direct danger to the community while awaiting trial. People aren't "out free" when they're out on bail, no matter how many TV shows claim they are. Bail, asset forfeiture, and eminent domain are the most abused legal privileges handed to the government. They're also the least understood.
 
5 days ago  

Nina9: Yet another one running home to his mommy. What is with these guys?


That's where he lived before he went to D.C.
This guy AND his brother have always lived at home with Mommy.

This is just north of me and I've been wondering if they were ever going to come after this guy since it blew up the local FB groups the day after.   Since he didn't seem to do anything other than trespass I thought they might not think it was worth the effort but....here we are!
 
5 days ago  

Shaggy_C: Bith Set Me Up: [Fark user image 640x1316]

This completely misses the point that you can be a working person and set your own hours. A plumber or hair stylist or fisherman or day labourer can decide when and where they work, and have more freedom with their schedule than your typical wage slave stuck in an office or assembly line.

Next we'll learn that the rioters and looters last summer couldn't possibly be "working class" because working class people have to wake up early in the morning and there's no way they could have been out late at night stealing TVs and liquor.

Dumb argument is dumb.


The majority of the people who stormed the Capitol were white-collar workers or business people. Only 9% of the people apprehended were unemployed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/arc​h​ive/2021/02/the-capitol-rioters-arent-​like-other-extremists/617895/
 
5 days ago  
Bith Set Me Up:
Only 9% of the people apprehended were unemployed.

This dude is unemployed.

/  Because he doesn't have to work or pay bills.
// Might be on the family business "payroll"  Doesn't mean he actually works though.
/// So he's still "unemployed" then?  or is "employment" just a technicality?
 
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