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2021-06-10 9:58:24 AM  
Because we live in an imperfect world?
 
2021-06-10 10:05:26 AM  
Because they had Covid at the time of the vaccine
 
2021-06-10 10:11:26 AM  
Because we're all doctors and every answer is correct.
 
2021-06-10 10:20:58 AM  
Why do people get side effects from any medication?
 
2021-06-10 10:24:40 AM  
Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

/I'm totally pissed about this because I've been working with a nonprofit that is trying to get more people vaccinated and among some at-risk groups, a very large number of people refuse to get the vaccine because they fear the "side effects". It's frustrating.
 
2021-06-10 10:27:21 AM  

Godscrack: Because we're all doctors and every answer is correct.


Because they are smarter and have more education, that's why they are doctors.
Doctor means teacher. That's why there are doctors of math and philosophy and music and butt stuff..

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2021-06-10 10:40:42 AM  

MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

/I'm totally pissed about this because I've been working with a nonprofit that is trying to get more people vaccinated and among some at-risk groups, a very large number of people refuse to get the vaccine because they fear the "side effects". It's frustrating.


I've been really good about vaccines my entire life but I have never had a reaction as bad as that second Pfizer shot. My entire arm was enflamed for a few days and I got a low grade fever. I've never experienced that with a flu shot or chicken pox, or tetanus vaccines. The most I've ever had from a vaccine before was a mild goose egg at the injection site.

It's still better than getting covid, and I knew the reaction would be more severe, but it was moderately uncomfortable for a good 4 days afterward.

It was unusual and I wonder if that is because of the new mRNA type vaccine stays active in your system longer than damaged virus in conventional vaccines?
 
2021-06-10 10:48:09 AM  

cretinbob: Godscrack: Because we're all doctors and every answer is correct.

Because they are smarter and have more education, that's why they are doctors.
Doctor means teacher. That's why there are doctors of math and philosophy and music and butt stuff..

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How about if a doctor doctors a doctor?
 
2021-06-10 10:53:01 AM  

Ambivalence: MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

/I'm totally pissed about this because I've been working with a nonprofit that is trying to get more people vaccinated and among some at-risk groups, a very large number of people refuse to get the vaccine because they fear the "side effects". It's frustrating.

I've been really good about vaccines my entire life but I have never had a reaction as bad as that second Pfizer shot. My entire arm was enflamed for a few days and I got a low grade fever. I've never experienced that with a flu shot or chicken pox, or tetanus vaccines. The most I've ever had from a vaccine before was a mild goose egg at the injection site.

It's still better than getting covid, and I knew the reaction would be more severe, but it was moderately uncomfortable for a good 4 days afterward.

It was unusual and I wonder if that is because of the new mRNA type vaccine stays active in your system longer than damaged virus in conventional vaccines?


It is a new technology that uses a different mechanism to get the antigen in the body. It may be that it gets a stronger react because the antigen persists longer, as you said.

The mRNA tech is probably going to be used for a ton of different things in the near future because it's so versatile and effective, so I guess we'll learn more as time goes on.
 
2021-06-10 11:00:26 AM  

cretinbob: Because they are smarter and have more education, that's why they are doctors.


That's why I said 'we're' not they're.
 
2021-06-10 11:10:29 AM  

Ambivalence: MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

/I'm totally pissed about this because I've been working with a nonprofit that is trying to get more people vaccinated and among some at-risk groups, a very large number of people refuse to get the vaccine because they fear the "side effects". It's frustrating.

I've been really good about vaccines my entire life but I have never had a reaction as bad as that second Pfizer shot. My entire arm was enflamed for a few days and I got a low grade fever. I've never experienced that with a flu shot or chicken pox, or tetanus vaccines. The most I've ever had from a vaccine before was a mild goose egg at the injection site.

It's still better than getting covid, and I knew the reaction would be more severe, but it was moderately uncomfortable for a good 4 days afterward.

It was unusual and I wonder if that is because of the new mRNA type vaccine stays active in your system longer than damaged virus in conventional vaccines?


Getting my second shot on Saturday, I felt really tired for about a day after my first shot. I have decided to plan nothing for Sunday just incase. I am warning work that I may not make it in Monday.

Whatever happens, still better than getting COVID.
 
2021-06-10 11:15:02 AM  

MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

/I'm totally pissed about this because I've been working with a nonprofit that is trying to get more people vaccinated and among some at-risk groups, a very large number of people refuse to get the vaccine because they fear the "side effects". It's frustrating.


Exactly, fevers are not caused by illness, they are your body's reaction to illness. I usually don't take anything to reduce a fever unless it persists for too long. Give it a day or two to try and keep the body at a killing temperature for bacteria or viruses.
 
2021-06-10 11:26:49 AM  

grokca: Ambivalence: MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

Getting my second shot on Saturday, I felt really tired for about a day after my first shot. I have decided to plan nothing for Sunday just incase. I am warning work that I may not make it in Monday.

Whatever happens, still better than getting COVID.


My family is 3 for 3 on getting tired for a day and sore arm for a few on both doses. Sure beats getting the disease.
 
2021-06-10 11:44:04 AM  
I got the J&J and definitely had a minor fever, trouble focusing, and  moderate fatigue and just generally miserable for about 2 days. My brother and his wife got the same shot the same day from the same place and they were just a little tired the next day. Seems to be a crap shoot as to the reaction people have.
 
2021-06-10 11:51:38 AM  
Because I get whiny when I don't feel good.
 
2021-06-10 11:53:11 AM  

TheAugurofDunlain: I got the J&J and definitely had a minor fever, trouble focusing, and  moderate fatigue and just generally miserable for about 2 days. My brother and his wife got the same shot the same day from the same place and they were just a little tired the next day. Seems to be a crap shoot as to the reaction people have.


We've got one of each vaccine in our household of three. All three had mild reactions to it (tired, a little fever) and had INTENSELY sore arms if you happened to bump that spot in the days after. No bruise, but you'd think our arms were dark purple for the pain reaction it got. It was wildly different from the tetanus shot pain where it hurts to move the arm.

The covid vaccine and last year's flu shot were the first vaccines where I DIDN'T lose a day to reaction recovery. Either my immune system has finally figured out how to maintain calm, or I'm farked.
 
2021-06-10 11:58:15 AM  
I napped lots after.

But I do that all the time so not sure if it was a side effect.
 
2021-06-10 12:16:00 PM  
Why are some folks allergic to cat dander, seafood, or poison ivy? Spin the genetic Wheel of Fortune and find out.

/seriously, it's a stupid question
 
2021-06-10 12:16:06 PM  
Surprisingly, we don't all have the same body chemistry, and it's only logical that we don't react the same way.  On the other hand, I'm a perfect physical specimen.

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Actually, I got away with being kind of generally sore the next day, like I'd done a little too much physical work (when I hadn't).  Slept very well that night, though.
 
2021-06-10 12:17:07 PM  
Every medical professional I've seen that's discussed this topic has reiterated that it has nothing to do with the "strength" of one's immune system, and that it basically comes down to genetic luck of the draw in how your body responds to your immune system ramping up and attacking something.
 
2021-06-10 12:31:04 PM  

Godscrack: cretinbob: Because they are smarter and have more education, that's why they are doctors.

That's why I said 'we're' not they're.


cool
you understand common and proper nouns too.
What color do you want?
 
2021-06-10 12:34:45 PM  

MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

/I'm totally pissed about this because I've been working with a nonprofit that is trying to get more people vaccinated and among some at-risk groups, a very large number of people refuse to get the vaccine because they fear the "side effects". It's frustrating.


And if you don't have these effects?  Does that mean that your immune system isn't working?
 
2021-06-10 12:42:58 PM  
grokca:

Exactly, fevers are not caused by illness, they are your body's reaction to illness. I usually don't take anything to reduce a fever unless it persists for too long. Give it a day or two to try and keep the body at a killing temperature for bacteria or viruses.

First, thank you for service, working with a nonprofit to get people vaccinated. As frustrating as it might be, you are doing important work and deserve to be appreciated for it.

Second, you and MrBallou are correct (and if we had better science education in this country, this might be more widely known) but a number of symptoms are not caused by the infection directly, but are the result of the body's immune reaction against the infection, and since vaccinations are meant to trigger the immune response (you can think of it as the body's defense military running live-fire practice training exercises against a potential future invader), yes, one might feel fever, aching joints, etc.

(Yes, swollen and aching joints are a potential immune response, and also a body's response to injury. It's one way that your body is trying to get you to rest or hold still. Until our bodies evolve a way to grow our own splints around broken bones or sprained joints, it's the best our biology can do. Getting a Sports Medicine cortisone shot to reduce the swelling and "get back in the game" is going to do more harm than good, long-term).

Third, I have a pendantic urge to clarify the point of a fever "keeping the body at a killing temperature for bacteria or viruses".

The heat itself is not directly harmful to invading pathogens. To destroy them by temperature alone (the sterilization process known as "pasteurization") would kill you too. Thankfully the body's metabolism is not able to get that hot (despite what conspiracy theorists of "spontaneous human combustion" claim).

Think of all the different biochemical processes each cell of your body undertakes to fulfill their function. Liver cells, brain cells, muscle cells, etc. And each kind of cell has numerous biochemical processes going on at any time.

Chemical reactions (and by extension, BIOchemical reactions) can occur at a range of temperatures, but certain reactions have a specific temperature at which they are most efficient. (Combustion reactions, as an example, depend on the fuel. Paper, famously, will combust [spontaneously!] at 451 degrees Fahrenheit, so if for whatever hypothetical reason you wanted to optimize the burning of paper on an Industrial scale, you might try to create those conditions. Obviously, it can happen at cooler temperatures, but it's harder to ignite paper at thirty degrees below zero than it is at eighty degrees above.)

The normal body temp of 98.6 F is not optimized for any one biological/biochemical process in the human body, but is an evolved compromise that allows most processes to run at an efficiency that is best for the whole body overall.

In a fever state, the body is reacting to an infection by prioritizing the functions of immune responses, approaching a temperature to allow T-cells, B-cells, Macrophages, etc. to operate with greater efficacy, making the sacrifice of temporarily reducing the stability of other body functions.

So, arguing semantics, yes it could be said to be a "killing temperature for bacteria and viruses".

I just felt the compelling urge to belabor the point as to why.

Apologies.
 
2021-06-10 12:52:05 PM  

ProcrastinationStation: MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

/I'm totally pissed about this because I've been working with a nonprofit that is trying to get more people vaccinated and among some at-risk groups, a very large number of people refuse to get the vaccine because they fear the "side effects". It's frustrating.

And if you don't have these effects?  Does that mean that your immune system isn't working?


No.

Duh.
 
2021-06-10 12:59:39 PM  
Why do some people get side effects after COVID-19 vaccines?

Science and biology, how do they work?
 
2021-06-10 1:07:31 PM  

Madeup Farkname: So, arguing semantics, yes it could be said to be a "killing temperature for bacteria and viruses".

I just felt the compelling urge to belabor the point as to why.

Apologies.


No problem, nice explanation of why we actually get the fever.
I still like to think my body is going into "killer temperature" mode though. Sounds a lot cooler than "optimizing temperatures for immune system function", don't you think?
 
2021-06-10 1:10:39 PM  

MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.


So you're saying that my whole family, who essentially got both shots without anything more than sore arms and a single brief headache (so brief it's hard to pin on the vax), did not experience an effective vaccination?
 
2021-06-10 1:26:16 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

So you're saying that my whole family, who essentially got both shots without anything more than sore arms and a single brief headache (so brief it's hard to pin on the vax), did not experience an effective vaccination?


No. I'm not.
 
2021-06-10 4:29:55 PM  
First shot: sore arm.
Second shot: high fever and tremendously bad body aches. For one day. 

Have a friend that can't get the second shot because the first actually triggered a rare genetic defect she has with her heart. Sent her into arrhythmia, which was pretty terrifying. Good news is, they found the defect because of it. Bad news is, one of the possible effects of the condition is 'sudden death'. Not so great.
 
2021-06-10 8:08:13 PM  

MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.


I don't think the blood clots are. I think those qualify as a side effect. I don't think we are trying to put a blood clot in people's brains so that they die or are permanently disabled. But, hey, what do I know...
 
2021-06-11 11:39:33 AM  

MrBallou: Embden.Meyerhof: MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

So you're saying that my whole family, who essentially got both shots without anything more than sore arms and a single brief headache (so brief it's hard to pin on the vax), did not experience an effective vaccination?

No. I'm not.



But "what you want to happen" did not happen.   Ergo...?
 
2021-06-11 2:31:34 PM  

Nidiot: MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

I don't think the blood clots are. I think those qualify as a side effect. I don't think we are trying to put a blood clot in people's brains so that they die or are permanently disabled. But, hey, what do I know...


Once in a while it's the desired effect, but, yes, generally no.
 
2021-06-11 2:33:20 PM  

Embden.Meyerhof: MrBallou: Embden.Meyerhof: MrBallou: Once again: they're not side effects. THEY'RE THE MAIN EFFECT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO HAPPEN.

It's your immune system doing exactly what you took the vaccine to make it do.Some people just whine more about it than others.

So you're saying that my whole family, who essentially got both shots without anything more than sore arms and a single brief headache (so brief it's hard to pin on the vax), did not experience an effective vaccination?

No. I'm not.


But "what you want to happen" did not happen.   Ergo...?


It's like having mediocre sex. It wasn't the SHAZAM! you were hoping for, but, hey, still had sex.

You still get immunity, even if you don't get fever, etc.
 
2021-06-11 8:32:42 PM  
Because you touch yourself at night?
 
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