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5 days ago  
I do not believe this to be the case, idjutmitter.
 
5 days ago  
I mean, we're on a longer streak here, but people know to get vaccinated.
 
5 days ago  
They should still get them tbqh.
 
5 days ago  

JerseyTim: They should still get them tbqh.


I'm sure they're smart enough to get them too.  Because at some point they're going to want to open up the borders and a good defense is having everyone inside vaccinated.
 
5 days ago  

BizarreMan: JerseyTim: They should still get them tbqh.

I'm sure they're smart enough to get them too.  Because at some point they're going to want to open up the borders and a good defense is having everyone inside vaccinated.


If they could get 80% vaccination, would make interesting experiment for herd immunity.
 
5 days ago  
Pretty sure my brother in Auckland got his first shot already.
 
5 days ago  
I wouldn't describe the need as urgent, but they certainly need it if they want to renormalize interactions with the rest of the world. Not to mention tourism, etc.
 
5 days ago  
Everyone stays home wanking it to Jacinda?
 
5 days ago  
Damn liberal countries... always making conservatives look stupid.
 
5 days ago  
I'll pass on that note still..........mainly because I'm afraid of em....!!!!!
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5 days ago  

fragMasterFlash: Everyone stays home wanking it to Jacinda?


I was on a call with a transplanted American living in NZ who says she's worse than Hitler.

So, yes.
 
5 days ago  

towatchoverme: fragMasterFlash: Everyone stays home wanking it to Jacinda?

I was on a call with a transplanted American living in NZ who says she's worse than Hitler.

So, yes.


I thought NZ immigration tested for stupid before letting someone in.
 
5 days ago  

towatchoverme: fragMasterFlash: Everyone stays home wanking it to Jacinda?

I was on a call with a transplanted American living in NZ who says she's worse than Hitler.

So, yes.


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5 days ago  
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5 days ago  
only because we can't get any vaccines, because we're a low proirity on the world stage.
 
5 days ago  

IDisME: towatchoverme: fragMasterFlash: Everyone stays home wanking it to Jacinda?

I was on a call with a transplanted American living in NZ who says she's worse than Hitler.

So, yes.

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100 percent true. Old Trump-loving guy from Arizona who married a younger NZ woman and who has been unable to leave the country since COVID started. He ranted for a good 5-10 minutes before she patted him on the arm as if to say "that's enough now, grandpa."

This was a few months back. Awkward Zoom call.
 
5 days ago  
It looks like the solution all along was securing it's borders.  and waiting for some other country to develop a vaccine they could buy.
 
5 days ago  
Whatever, they still cheat at rugby
 
5 days ago  
I don't think NZ is that dumb, they had one of the best lockdowns as far as I can tell and I am sure they would welcome to have vaccines in case someone slips one by the goalie. Wish I was living someplace sane like that last year.
 
5 days ago  
Weird, so actually taking lockdowns seriously works and doesn't destroy your economy? Huh. Who would have thought?

/Oh, right, smart people, that's who.
 
5 days ago  
That's not how vaccination works and people in New Zealand probably know that.
 
5 days ago  
New Zealand might not need vaccines subby but they need that chinese D up their bums.
 
5 days ago  
Well yeah, when you're a remote, sparsely populated island country with only a handful of airports, it's pretty easy to keep the dirty plague rats out.
 
5 days ago  
Almost a year ago, I found myself on a Zoom call with a group of Australians and New Zealanders.  At one point, one of the New Zealanders started ranting about how New Zealand's strict lockdown might not have been technically legal, and about the economic impact of such a strict lockdown.

And then she realized that there was an American on the call...
 
5 days ago  

Tad_Waxpole: Well yeah, when you're a remote, sparsely populated island country with only a handful of airports, it's pretty easy to keep the dirty plague rats out.


Vietnam did a pretty good job too, despite sharing a land border with the source of this pandemic. Or at least they were doing well until a church decided that it was their God-given mission to spread the "good news".
 
5 days ago  

towatchoverme: IDisME: towatchoverme: fragMasterFlash: Everyone stays home wanking it to Jacinda?

I was on a call with a transplanted American living in NZ who says she's worse than Hitler.

So, yes.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/g95xIxkL​16w]

100 percent true. Old Trump-loving guy from Arizona who married a younger NZ woman and who has been unable to leave the country since COVID started. He ranted for a good 5-10 minutes before she patted him on the arm as if to say "that's enough now, grandpa."

This was a few months back. Awkward Zoom call.


Oh, no.  I meant the Hitler part.
 
TWX
5 days ago  

Tad_Waxpole: Well yeah, when you're a remote, sparsely populated island country with only a handful of airports, it's pretty easy to keep the dirty plague rats out.


Not if you're dependent on overseas trade it isn't.  Someone has to physically transport goods.  Even if those individuals are barred from leaving port facilities, the potential for asymptomatic carriers means local port and customs officials, dockworkers, and those who do ship maintenance and repairs are still exposed to those who are operating vessels.

I would hope that if they're currently caseless or transmissionless that they're focusing vaccination efforts to give port/customs/dockyard folks priority not much below the medical establishment, but obviously that's up to them.
 
5 days ago  

Tad_Waxpole: Well yeah, when you're a remote, sparsely populated island country with only a handful of airports, it's pretty easy to keep the dirty plague rats out.


Yes, it is only down to them shutting down airports.

It has nothing to do with a population who took the threat seriously, actually followed protocols to reduce transmission and understood this was about protecting us and not about me. The government took swift action and the population backed them.

Unlike other countries where the governments prevaricated or used the virus and its response as part of a political culture war.
 
5 days ago  
Our vaccine roll out is a bit of a joke, The NZ govt waffled on about securing enough doses to cover the whole of NZ and our pacific neighbours. We've had since late last year to plan and implement a vaccine program and bugger all was done about it, now it looks like we'll run out of Pfizer vaccine (the only one we're getting) next week and have to wait until some time in June for the next dose.  I don't expect every Kiwi who wants a jab to be vaccinated before mid 2022 at this rate.

/Kiwi
//wants my jab
///NOW
 
TWX
5 days ago  

John Hopoate: Our vaccine roll out is a bit of a joke, The NZ govt waffled on about securing enough doses to cover the whole of NZ and our pacific neighbours. We've had since late last year to plan and implement a vaccine program and bugger all was done about it, now it looks like we'll run out of Pfizer vaccine (the only one we're getting) next week and have to wait until some time in June for the next dose.  I don't expect every Kiwi who wants a jab to be vaccinated before mid 2022 at this rate.

/Kiwi
//wants my jab
///NOW


Any idea what the periodic vaccination rate actually is?

Your country has a population roughly the same as the city I live in.  We're suffering from wingnuts that are unwilling to get vaccinated hampering our efforts, but since late January they've managed to administer around 3.5 million doses in Maricopa County.  This is roughly 50% of the eligible population.  Not good enough but it sounds like health department officials are looking at ways to reach those that are receptive but are apathetic about actually going to get vaccinated.  It's apparently a problem, lots of people that don't oppose getting the shot aren't willing or aren't able to take the steps needed to actually go to vaccination points-of-distribution to get inoculated.

I'm very, very looking forward to their opening vaccination down to young children.  Even with all of the adults in the family group vaccinated, with my three year old daughter not yet being eligible we still have maintained mask protocols and largely are staying home.  If she gets vaccinated we would be a lot freer to even do things like enjoy the park or going on road trips or camping.

I'm also hoping that we get some kind of decree that allows minors to go get vaccinated even if their parents aren't willing to approve.  Right now this is a problem.
 
5 days ago  
BizarreMan:   I'm sure they're smart enough to get them too.

You might be surprised, NZ has it's own dumbass bastards with wool caught in their zippers.  But generally I'd imagine so, yes.
 
5 days ago  

IDisME: towatchoverme: IDisME: towatchoverme: fragMasterFlash: Everyone stays home wanking it to Jacinda?

I was on a call with a transplanted American living in NZ who says she's worse than Hitler.

So, yes.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/g95xIxkL​16w]

100 percent true. Old Trump-loving guy from Arizona who married a younger NZ woman and who has been unable to leave the country since COVID started. He ranted for a good 5-10 minutes before she patted him on the arm as if to say "that's enough now, grandpa."

This was a few months back. Awkward Zoom call.

Oh, no.  I meant the Hitler part.


Oh. Yeah, he definitely said that.

He said a lot of things. Also called her the "Empress."
 
5 days ago  

towatchoverme: IDisME: towatchoverme: IDisME: towatchoverme: fragMasterFlash: Everyone stays home wanking it to Jacinda?

I was on a call with a transplanted American living in NZ who says she's worse than Hitler.

So, yes.

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/g95xIxkL​16w]

100 percent true. Old Trump-loving guy from Arizona who married a younger NZ woman and who has been unable to leave the country since COVID started. He ranted for a good 5-10 minutes before she patted him on the arm as if to say "that's enough now, grandpa."

This was a few months back. Awkward Zoom call.

Oh, no.  I meant the Hitler part.

Oh. Yeah, he definitely said that.

He said a lot of things. Also called her the "Empress."


Hah.  I know exactly one (count 'em, 1) person in NZ, and they both went to school together.  It's a low population (around 5 million?) but still.
 
5 days ago  

TWX: John Hopoate: Our vaccine roll out is a bit of a joke, The NZ govt waffled on about securing enough doses to cover the whole of NZ and our pacific neighbours. We've had since late last year to plan and implement a vaccine program and bugger all was done about it, now it looks like we'll run out of Pfizer vaccine (the only one we're getting) next week and have to wait until some time in June for the next dose.  I don't expect every Kiwi who wants a jab to be vaccinated before mid 2022 at this rate.

/Kiwi
//wants my jab
///NOW

Any idea what the periodic vaccination rate actually is?

Your country has a population roughly the same as the city I live in.  We're suffering from wingnuts that are unwilling to get vaccinated hampering our efforts, but since late January they've managed to administer around 3.5 million doses in Maricopa County.  This is roughly 50% of the eligible population.  Not good enough but it sounds like health department officials are looking at ways to reach those that are receptive but are apathetic about actually going to get vaccinated.  It's apparently a problem, lots of people that don't oppose getting the shot aren't willing or aren't able to take the steps needed to actually go to vaccination points-of-distribution to get inoculated.

I'm very, very looking forward to their opening vaccination down to young children.  Even with all of the adults in the family group vaccinated, with my three year old daughter not yet being eligible we still have maintained mask protocols and largely are staying home.  If she gets vaccinated we would be a lot freer to even do things like enjoy the park or going on road trips or camping.

I'm also hoping that we get some kind of decree that allows minors to go get vaccinated even if their parents aren't willing to approve.  Right now this is a problem.


The NZ vaccination rate is below the global average.
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5 days ago  
People still need to be vaccinated for when normalcy is restored and they are exposed to the virus. They've done a great job preventing exposures during the shut-down, and kudos to them and their competent, honest, democratic and liberal leadership, but nobody is immune except those who have had the virus and survived and those who are vaccinated.
 
4 days ago  

TWX: Tad_Waxpole: Well yeah, when you're a remote, sparsely populated island country with only a handful of airports, it's pretty easy to keep the dirty plague rats out.

Not if you're dependent on overseas trade it isn't.  Someone has to physically transport goods.  Even if those individuals are barred from leaving port facilities, the potential for asymptomatic carriers means local port and customs officials, dockworkers, and those who do ship maintenance and repairs are still exposed to those who are operating vessels.

I would hope that if they're currently caseless or transmissionless that they're focusing vaccination efforts to give port/customs/dockyard folks priority not much below the medical establishment, but obviously that's up to them.


Border workers were the first group to receive vaccines, before non-border medical personnel, and that includes those that work in the ports. People have been fired from jobs there for refusing.
 
4 days ago  

John Hopoate: Our vaccine roll out is a bit of a joke, The NZ govt waffled on about securing enough doses to cover the whole of NZ and our pacific neighbours. We've had since late last year to plan and implement a vaccine program and bugger all was done about it, now it looks like we'll run out of Pfizer vaccine (the only one we're getting) next week and have to wait until some time in June for the next dose.  I don't expect every Kiwi who wants a jab to be vaccinated before mid 2022 at this rate.

/Kiwi
//wants my jab
///NOW


I gather the hold up is simply that while Pfizers are being produced as fast as possible, most of the world needs them. We really need more Pfizer manufacturing facilities. This mRNA thing seems to be the vaccine type of the future so it's not like the facilities wouldn't be useful for many years to come.

Or Moderna, you don't hear much about them these days.
 
4 days ago  
The problem with vaccines in NZ is they are at the very bottom of the global priority list. Most of their island neighbors are far higher up on the risk list as a single case in some of those island would be impossible to control and they can only treat a few people due to lack of medical facilities.  NZ mainland has a lower risk than even the Antarctica communities.

Nothing quite like You did great! so your reward is no vax for you.
 
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