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(WBUR Boston)   Not news: Republican state rep makes homophobic comment, anger ensues. News: Anger is from fellow Republicans. Fark: 29 out of 30 elected Republicans demand her resignation for comments. Bonus: Also demand resignation of party chair who defended her   (amp.wbur.org) divider line
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2021-06-10 8:11:39 AM  
I'm actually surprised by this. Granted, the MAGOP is anemic at best, but I figured Baker was the last decent* one before they descend into madness (Trumpism).

*Decent as in, a more traditional pro-business, socially liberal, not a slave to religion, New England Republicanism.
 
2021-06-10 8:16:55 AM  

somedude210: I'm actually surprised by this. Granted, the MAGOP is anemic at best, but I figured Baker was the last decent* one before they descend into madness (Trumpism).

*Decent as in, a more traditional pro-business, socially liberal, not a slave to religion, New England Republicanism.


Polito scares the f*ck out of me though. Baker shouldn't have made her Lt, but I assume he did to shore up that wing of the party. She's the one who put the anti-gay marriage plank in the party platform loooong after MA legalized gay marriage and I think after the feds legalized it too.

She's a right-wing religious nut job who shouldn't be anywhere near the corner office.

But she's likely too far right wing to get the nomination for governor, let alone actually win in a state wide election.

/We tend to break up the one party rule, but don't tend to vote for the far right nuts.
 
2021-06-10 9:49:23 AM  
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2021-06-10 10:03:08 AM  
FTA: The Massachusetts Republican Party

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2021-06-10 10:21:10 AM  
Difficulty: Massachusetts

Also known as the beginner level of Madden Football.
 
2021-06-10 10:22:14 AM  

abb3w: FTA: The Massachusetts Republican Party

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Yep, if it was Alabama Republican Party, the state rep would be paraded around to all the churches to talk about her "freedom of speech" (when they really want to have is freedom from consequences for what they say and do, while wanting to prosecute and condemn others who aren't Fascist Republicans for exercising their freedoms).
 
2021-06-10 10:23:11 AM  
I look for feel good stories like this - Republicans feeding on Republicans.
 
2021-06-10 10:24:09 AM  
You done goofed.
 
2021-06-10 10:24:38 AM  
Not on the agenda, but very much on the minds of many: What will it take to end the internal division and bring state Republicans together?

Get rid of the trump scum, those people are a problem.
 
2021-06-10 10:25:00 AM  

abb3w: FTA: The Massachusetts Republican Party

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Oh, I'm sorry, are they not Republicans? My bad. Guess they should change their party name then 🙄

/Any elected Republican actually doing what's right should be welcomed, not ignored
 
2021-06-10 10:25:05 AM  
I did not see that coming...
 
2021-06-10 10:27:37 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Not on the agenda, but very much on the minds of many: What will it take to end the internal division and bring state Republicans together?

Get rid of the trump scum, those people are a problem.


Well, at the very least, they seem to be trying to marginalize them or force them to pack their shiat and GTFO.

If the GOP does end up splitting into regional parties, this is at least how the New England brand will (hopefully) work itself into.
 
2021-06-10 10:29:40 AM  

somedude210: abb3w: FTA: The Massachusetts Republican Party

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Oh, I'm sorry, are they not Republicans? My bad. Guess they should change their party name then 🙄

/Any elected Republican actually doing what's right should be welcomed, not ignored


True, but I am holding my breath until I see this happen more often. A northeastern state Republican party condemning its own member for homophobia is all well and good, but I want to see it from the whole of the GOP before anyone can say, "Finally, they have done the right thing." Praise this instance, but don't let your foot off the gas until the entire GOP does the same.
 
2021-06-10 10:30:05 AM  
So a Massachusetts Republican is like a West Virginia Democrat?
 
2021-06-10 10:30:38 AM  
Moderate Republicans want to disown racists, homophobes and other assorted idiots, but are at the same time fully aware of how much they depend on the votes of the deplorables. I would make the case that moderate Republicans are even shiattier people than the devoted Trumpers because they actually should know better.
 
2021-06-10 10:31:28 AM  

Peki: So a Massachusetts Republican is like a West Virginia Democrat?


Pretty much, though a Massachusetts Republican votes with the party unlike a West Virginia Democrat.
 
2021-06-10 10:31:54 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: Not on the agenda, but very much on the minds of many: What will it take to end the internal division and bring state Republicans together?

Get rid of the trump scum, those people are a problem.


They are also the *vast* majority of the GOP.  They are already busy getting rid of the heretics, and soon enough, they will be all that is left.
 
2021-06-10 10:32:55 AM  
Gov. Charlie Baker, a popular moderate Republican...

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Good for all of them condemning the hateful bigot.

HOWEVER, nobody is a moderate who stayed in the party after Reagan ascended. Not supporting Trump can mean you are not fascist, but they are still far-right extremists.
 
2021-06-10 10:33:53 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Peki: So a Massachusetts Republican is like a West Virginia Democrat?

Pretty much, though a Massachusetts Republican votes with the party unlike a West Virginia Democrat.


I was also going to counter my own point with "there isn't a Massachusetts Republican in the Senate" but yours works too.

/sometimes, though, it's worth making the joke anyway
 
2021-06-10 10:34:46 AM  
Wake me when something like this happens in Alabama or Texas.
 
2021-06-10 10:34:49 AM  

Rent Party: HotWingConspiracy: Not on the agenda, but very much on the minds of many: What will it take to end the internal division and bring state Republicans together?

Get rid of the trump scum, those people are a problem.

They are also the *vast* majority of the GOP.  They are already busy getting rid of the heretics, and soon enough, they will be all that is left.


For this local party, it seems they've ID'd two people as being the problem.
 
2021-06-10 10:37:20 AM  
What a weird state. Overwhelmingly democratic, but elects a Republican Governor. either his opponent was a garbage fire or he's actually a pretty good administrator...which makes me wonder why the hell he's a Republican.
 
2021-06-10 10:37:49 AM  

Peki: DarkSoulNoHope: Peki: So a Massachusetts Republican is like a West Virginia Democrat?

Pretty much, though a Massachusetts Republican votes with the party unlike a West Virginia Democrat.

I was also going to counter my own point with "there isn't a Massachusetts Republican in the Senate" but yours works too.

/sometimes, though, it's worth making the joke anyway


It is.
 
2021-06-10 10:39:32 AM  

somedude210: I'm sorry, are they not Republicans?


My impression is that they are an outlier from the party norm but mainly just slower than most other state GOPs in the increase in sociopathy. News about the Masshole GOP seems more likely to be merely a lagging indicator than a bellweather of a new trend for the national GOP.
 
2021-06-10 10:45:09 AM  
She must not have been well-liked to begin with.
 
2021-06-10 10:49:33 AM  

El Dudereno: She must not have been well-liked to begin with.


Probably has sharp knees
 
2021-06-10 10:52:54 AM  
Were the homophobic comments not strongly worded enough?  I don't understand.
 
2021-06-10 10:53:44 AM  
Moderate Republican (formerly known as a Republican).
 
2021-06-10 10:59:23 AM  
Because, dammit, the homos have all the disposable income and internet influence! We don't want them against us as well! And they have zero abortions.
 
2021-06-10 11:03:26 AM  

Rent Party: HotWingConspiracy: Not on the agenda, but very much on the minds of many: What will it take to end the internal division and bring state Republicans together?

Get rid of the trump scum, those people are a problem.

They are also the *vast* majority of the GOP. They are already busy getting rid of the heretics, and soon enough, they will be all that is left.


This is unclear.  It's certainly true that they are the majority of the party leadership but most Americans are not anywhere near the political junkies we have here.  Most have few, if any, deeply held political beliefs and just follow the crowd, blindly voting for whoever has an R next to their name.  We are biased here because we are so into all of it but most of America doesn't care all that much.  Half of them don't even vote and the one's that do are spread along a broad spectrum of only vaguely aware to hyper-aware.
 
2021-06-10 11:04:17 AM  
Last year, the Massachusetts Democrats ran a homophobic honeypot smear campaign against a gay progressive challenger to the incumbent. It worked. Last I checked, no one in the party has faced any consequences for that, and indeed no one in the party has even apologized to Alex Morse for what they did to him.

So what I'm reading here is that Massachusetts Republicans are potentially more progressive than the Massachusetts Democrats. That's obviously a bit of a strong statement, but there is a sharp and shameful contrast between these two incidents that the Massachusetts Democratic Party absolutely needs to address.
 
2021-06-10 11:05:30 AM  

JokerMattly: What a weird state. Overwhelmingly democratic, but elects a Republican Governor. either his opponent was a garbage fire or he's actually a pretty good administrator...which makes me wonder why the hell he's a Republican.


The state parties, especially in New England, often have little to nothing to do with the national party.
 
2021-06-10 11:36:15 AM  
Oh Massachusetts.

Many Blue state Republicans are fiscal conservative and socially liberal.
 
2021-06-10 11:37:56 AM  

austerity101: Last year, the Massachusetts Democrats ran a homophobic honeypot smear campaign against a gay progressive challenger to the incumbent. It worked. Last I checked, no one in the party has faced any consequences for that, and indeed no one in the party has even apologized to Alex Morse for what they did to him.

So what I'm reading here is that Massachusetts Republicans are potentially more progressive than the Massachusetts Democrats. That's obviously a bit of a strong statement, but there is a sharp and shameful contrast between these two incidents that the Massachusetts Democratic Party absolutely needs to address.


Well since you have been on record saying you hate democrats as a whole many times I have no idea why anyone would listen to what you had to say.
 
2021-06-10 11:43:22 AM  

Corvus: Oh Massachusetts.

Many Blue state Republicans are fiscal conservative and socially liberal.


Much like you. I just wish you realized that being fiscally conservative hurts alot of those socially liberal efforts you champion, especially true that fiscally conservative policies keep minorities in poverty.
 
2021-06-10 11:49:29 AM  
It's just wild how committed the state GOP is to cutting their own dicks off to own the libs here. They've been criticizing Baker since he got elected for not "fighting for conservative values"... The statehouse is veto-proof blue and he was the most popular governor in the country for a while. It's like they want to lose (please, proceed).

They have a path to political relevance, by following the lead of the boring, New England governors, back to... well not power, but maybe 30% of the electorate. Enough to be a pain in the ass with legislation, especially if they knock out the veto-proof majority and keep the governor's mansion. But, they absolutely refuse to take it and have been trying to backstab everyone who won't go along with them.

/ you got crazy in my stupid!
// you got stupid in my crazy!
 
2021-06-10 12:10:54 PM  

Persnickety: Rent Party: HotWingConspiracy: Not on the agenda, but very much on the minds of many: What will it take to end the internal division and bring state Republicans together?

Get rid of the trump scum, those people are a problem.

They are also the *vast* majority of the GOP. They are already busy getting rid of the heretics, and soon enough, they will be all that is left.

This is unclear.  It's certainly true that they are the majority of the party leadership but most Americans are not anywhere near the political junkies we have here.  Most have few, if any, deeply held political beliefs and just follow the crowd, blindly voting for whoever has an R next to their name.  We are biased here because we are so into all of it but most of America doesn't care all that much.  Half of them don't even vote and the one's that do are spread along a broad spectrum of only vaguely aware to hyper-aware.


No it's really not.   Trump's approval rating among republicans was stratospheric.   We just witnessed Liz Cheney getting tossed to the curb for not being a Trumphumper.

*Liz farkin' Cheney*

Don't kid yourself that there is some semblance of reason within the GOP.   There ain't, and that message was sent loud and clear.
 
2021-06-10 12:14:39 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Corvus: Oh Massachusetts.

Many Blue state Republicans are fiscal conservative and socially liberal.

Much like you. I just wish you realized that being fiscally conservative hurts alot of those socially liberal efforts you champion, especially true that fiscally conservative policies keep minorities in poverty.


That is only if you use the requblican definition of "fiscally conservative" which is "assume massive debt to pay for wars and nothing else."

Actual fiscal conservation (taxes pay for stuff) would leave us with a massive rainy day fund that we could use to do nice things, and leave our borrowing capabilities to handle the big things like the social security bubble.
 
2021-06-10 12:25:59 PM  
Mountain-Lyons
Mountain lions
Cougar................aw fark it....it was funnier in my head
 
2021-06-10 12:47:04 PM  

somedude210: abb3w: FTA: The Massachusetts Republican Party

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Oh, I'm sorry, are they not Republicans? My bad. Guess they should change their party name then 🙄

/Any elected Republican actually doing what's right should be welcomed, not ignored is a sign of the coming Apocalypse


FTFM
 
2021-06-10 12:48:36 PM  

abb3w: somedude210: I'm sorry, are they not Republicans?

My impression is that they are an outlier from the party norm but mainly just slower than most other state GOPs in the increase in sociopathy. News about the Masshole GOP seems more likely to be merely a lagging indicator than a bellweather of a new trend for the national GOP.


Though it being a bellweather would be nice.  Having the 2 parties be opposition parties instead of blood enemies would be nice; but we've been on this trend since the 80s.  I don't think we've hit bottom yet.
 
2021-06-10 12:49:48 PM  

Rent Party: Persnickety: Rent Party: HotWingConspiracy: Not on the agenda, but very much on the minds of many: What will it take to end the internal division and bring state Republicans together?

Get rid of the trump scum, those people are a problem.

They are also the *vast* majority of the GOP. They are already busy getting rid of the heretics, and soon enough, they will be all that is left.

This is unclear.  It's certainly true that they are the majority of the party leadership but most Americans are not anywhere near the political junkies we have here.  Most have few, if any, deeply held political beliefs and just follow the crowd, blindly voting for whoever has an R next to their name.  We are biased here because we are so into all of it but most of America doesn't care all that much.  Half of them don't even vote and the one's that do are spread along a broad spectrum of only vaguely aware to hyper-aware.

No it's really not.   Trump's approval rating among republicans was stratospheric.   We just witnessed Liz Cheney getting tossed to the curb for not being a Trumphumper.

*Liz farkin' Cheney*

Don't kid yourself that there is some semblance of reason within the GOP.   There ain't, and that message was sent loud and clear.


As more and more people block calls and ditch landlines, polls become less and less representative of the population.  The people who are willing to sit through a long poll are the ones with an axe to grind.  I agree that the party leadership and Washington in general is very pro-Trump but most of the Trump voters I know only have a vague notion of what's going on in this country politically.  By far the most important statistic regarding the political state of the nation is the very large number of people who don't vote.  This does not suggest the highly polarized nation that the media likes to alarm us with.  Among those who do vote, a large chunk are barely of what's going on.
 
2021-06-10 12:55:34 PM  
Anyone willing to associate themselves with the Republican party is fascist filth who should be sent to the guillotine forthwith. No amount of feel-good pantomime will ever change that.
 
2021-06-10 1:11:07 PM  

jaytkay: Gov. Charlie Baker, a popular moderate Republican...

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Good for all of them condemning the hateful bigot.

HOWEVER, nobody is a moderate who stayed in the party after Reagan ascended. Not supporting Trump can mean you are not fascist, but they are still far-right extremists.


Forgot

plastic wood
military intelligence.
 
2021-06-10 1:30:41 PM  

Rent Party: DarkSoulNoHope: Corvus: Oh Massachusetts.

Many Blue state Republicans are fiscal conservative and socially liberal.

Much like you. I just wish you realized that being fiscally conservative hurts alot of those socially liberal efforts you champion, especially true that fiscally conservative policies keep minorities in poverty.

That is only if you use the requblican definition of "fiscally conservative" which is "assume massive debt to pay for wars and nothing else."

Actual fiscal conservation (taxes pay for stuff) would leave us with a massive rainy day fund that we could use to do nice things, and leave our borrowing capabilities to handle the big things like the social security bubble.


Problem is, Conservative Democrats (or as they like to label themselves, "Moderate Democrats") like Corvus believe that we shouldn't tax the wealthy to pay for things that Americans need, because they might "frighten the wealthy away" or some other GOP talking point they borrow to put down progressive ideas.

If we went by fiscal conversation as you define it, meaning "taxes pay for things", then we would have a livable minimum wage right now (which would increase tax revenue), single-payer universal healthcare (paid for by taxes), 4 year college given to anyone who meets grade criteria (paid by taxes) and 2 year college and/or trade school for anyone who doesn't meet the 4 year grade criteria (give them an opportunity to improve themselves and give them a chance to get into a 4 year after satisfying a associates degree, paid by taxes) which would also improve tax income with better skilled employees demanding higher wages, union protection by law, paid leave and paid vacations by law (allowing employees to deal with medical and personal issues, to improve how they are in the workforce), and other measures.

Now if you are thinking, "This isn't fiscal conservatism." then you aren't Europe whose countries have had most or all of these programs in place, many since the late 40s (after WW2 ended) and they aren't "radical leftist" countries. Being the wealthiest country in the world means we can afford these things easily, we just need the political will to tax the people who have most of the money and have hoarded it for no reason other than to say "Hi, I'm really wealthy, I'm bragging about that but not doing anything with that money."
 
2021-06-10 1:42:46 PM  
How bad a slate of Democrats do you have to run to lose the race for governor to a Republican.in Massachusetts?
 
2021-06-10 1:54:46 PM  
My god, what could they have possibly said?? Seriously what was the line that even republicans wouldn't cross??

**reads article** really?????? That is dare I say tame for remarks republicans make about the LGBQT community, did the other republicans get confused about which party they are in? Is it Opposite Day and I didn't know it? Is this just a terrible satire publication I've never know about?

Honestly I'm left with more questions than I started with... still no hope that republicans will wake up and do the right thing, this feels more like the broken clock being right twice a day sort of thing.
 
2021-06-10 2:24:53 PM  
"We are fighting an uphill battle as it is in Massachusetts," he said. "We represent less than 10% of the electorate and we need to grow."
To Amore's point, all 11 members of Massachusetts' congressional delegation are Democrats. And Democrats enjoy overwhelming majorities in both chambers of the State House, including holding 37 of the 40 seats in the state Senate.


Then how in the every-loving-fark did a Republican get elected Governor?  WTF Mass.
 
2021-06-10 2:35:33 PM  

Persnickety: *Liz farkin' Cheney*

Don't kid yourself that there is some semblance of reason within the GOP.   There ain't, and that message was sent loud and clear.


As more and more people block calls and ditch landlines, polls become less and less representative of the population.


Polls?  Have you not been paying attention?  They threw Liz Cheney out on her ass and replaced her with a certified Trumpinian.  That has fark all to do with polls and landlines.   It has everything to do with the makeup of the GOP.
 
2021-06-10 2:36:54 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Rent Party: DarkSoulNoHope: Corvus: Oh Massachusetts.

Many Blue state Republicans are fiscal conservative and socially liberal.

Much like you. I just wish you realized that being fiscally conservative hurts alot of those socially liberal efforts you champion, especially true that fiscally conservative policies keep minorities in poverty.

That is only if you use the requblican definition of "fiscally conservative" which is "assume massive debt to pay for wars and nothing else."

Actual fiscal conservation (taxes pay for stuff) would leave us with a massive rainy day fund that we could use to do nice things, and leave our borrowing capabilities to handle the big things like the social security bubble.

Problem is, Conservative Democrats (or as they like to label themselves, "Moderate Democrats") like Corvus believe that we shouldn't tax the wealthy to pay for things that Americans need, because they might "frighten the wealthy away" or some other GOP talking point they borrow to put down progressive ideas.

If we went by fiscal conversation as you define it, meaning "taxes pay for things", then we would have a livable minimum wage right now (which would increase tax revenue), single-payer universal healthcare (paid for by taxes), 4 year college given to anyone who meets grade criteria (paid by taxes) and 2 year college and/or trade school for anyone who doesn't meet the 4 year grade criteria (give them an opportunity to improve themselves and give them a chance to get into a 4 year after satisfying a associates degree, paid by taxes) which would also improve tax income with better skilled employees demanding higher wages, union protection by law, paid leave and paid vacations by law (allowing employees to deal with medical and personal issues, to improve how they are in the workforce), and other measures.

Now if you are thinking, "This isn't fiscal conservatism." then you aren't Europe whose countries have had most or all of these programs in place, many since the ...


That is basically everything I want.   Whenever you run for Presnit, you have my vote.
 
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