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2021-06-10 7:44:40 AM  
Preach.
 
2021-06-10 7:57:17 AM  
Sic him, Pomp.
 
2021-06-10 8:33:38 AM  
Prosecution is the first step of a 5 step process.
 
2021-06-10 8:34:21 AM  
Editorialist stands up, raises hands, gestures all around, indicating everything, stares significantly into camera, raises one eyebrow. Sits down, crosses arms.

Fin.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2021-06-10 9:56:37 AM  
Coin flip:

Conviction, reflection, and we all live happily ever after in a blue world.
Conviction, revolt against a politically motivated prosecution, and we all live happily ever after in a red world.
Acquittal and a reinvigorated Trump crushes his enemies.

Hey, this coin is shaped funny.
 
2021-06-10 10:00:19 AM  
"....no one is above the law"

That's the main thing.  But most right-wingers don't see it that way.  They think position, money, their own self-perceived righteousness, etc., allow them to do things that other people shouldn't be allowed to do without getting in trouble.  And you don't just see this with the law but other cherished right-wing philosophies like merit or patriotism.
 
2021-06-10 10:01:59 AM  
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2021-06-10 10:05:09 AM  
This article has been coming out every week for 4 years.

shiat or get off the pot.
 
2021-06-10 10:07:10 AM  
Simple:
1) soliciting having false numbers put on an election result is a felony.
2) Trump said he won Georgia by over 400,000 votes.
3) Trump asked them to add on some number over 11,000 votes.

So Trump claims he knew they won by 400k+ but asked them to put a 3rd number. Not the one they did originally, and not the one he thinks they won by. A 3rd number that he KNOWS to be false.

The end. Trump guilty of election fraud in Georgia. Send him to prison for not less than 1 but not more than 3 years.

This is the absolute bare minimum they could do for us.
 
2021-06-10 10:07:28 AM  
"Presidents also need a clear message, one that will echo through history, that breaking the law in the Oval Office will actually be punished."

Nixon, Trump and the entire GOP seen sharing a laugh.
 
2021-06-10 10:08:08 AM  
Isn't the Globe a conservative rag?  Or is that the Herald?
 
2021-06-10 10:08:30 AM  
So LOCK HIM UP?
 
2021-06-10 10:09:19 AM  
I'm giving a thumbs-up with one hand, and making jerk-off motions with the other.
 
2021-06-10 10:11:59 AM  
I'm surprised there haven't been attempts on Trump's life from the insurrectionists he riled up and then abandoned after they failed to deliver. He's been pretty clear that he thinks they were low class trash and doesn't really like any of them.
 
2021-06-10 10:13:17 AM  
We've already seen that federal level law enforcement is invested in defending Trump's actions because they want the Executive to have that kind of power.

He'll face courtrooms for his shady businesses at the state level and nothing else.
 
2021-06-10 10:14:13 AM  
Not that this shouldn't be done, but prosecuting Trump is going to be ten shiat shows and a half. If his band of psychos stormed the Capitol, I really hope they up the security.
 
2021-06-10 10:15:06 AM  

Glorious Golden Ass: I'm surprised there haven't been attempts on Trump's life from the insurrectionists he riled up and then abandoned after they failed to deliver. He's been pretty clear that he thinks they were low class trash and doesn't really like any of them.


1. Secret Service protection.
2. They're more mad at liberals and commies that don't exist but appear to be anyone without a red hat these days in their minds.
3. Busy hating on Biden and Harris.

So yeah I don't think they'll do much.
 
2021-06-10 10:15:54 AM  
You spelled executing wrong.
 
2021-06-10 10:18:13 AM  
Is anyone other than Trump supporters saying Trump shouldn't be prosecuted? (if found guilty of committing crimes of course)

It seems like arguing with positions that don't really exist seem like a pretty popular thing lately.
 
2021-06-10 10:20:00 AM  
Trump will never serve any time.  No matter what they find about him.
 
2021-06-10 10:26:58 AM  

HerptheDerp: This article has been coming out every week for 4 years.

shiat or get off the pot.


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2021-06-10 10:29:56 AM  
Shouldn't it be "cases", plural?
 
2021-06-10 10:33:55 AM  

xanadian: Isn't the Globe a conservative rag?  Or is that the Herald?


That's the Herald.  The Globe leans left.
 
2021-06-10 10:36:32 AM  
I would like to take this opportunity to point out that I am a wizard.
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2021-06-10 10:37:30 AM  
How much more "investigating" do you need?
 
2021-06-10 10:37:58 AM  

Glorious Golden Ass: I'm surprised there haven't been attempts on Trump's life from the insurrectionists he riled up and then abandoned after they failed to deliver. He's been pretty clear that he thinks they were low class trash and doesn't really like any of them.


All those morans think he is going to be reinstalled in August, once the double secret virgin sacrifice ceremony has been completed.


/according to the prophecy
 
2021-06-10 10:39:34 AM  
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2021-06-10 10:40:38 AM  

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2021-06-10 10:40:41 AM  
The one thing I will say that trump deserves is a fair trial for each of the crimes on which we have substantial evidence. I'm guessing that lumping them together would result in a few trials (e.g., Federal court, NY State court, and any other state/local courts in which he violated laws).

The thing I worry about is getting an impartial jury. If you get one maga hat fark stick on the jury, he will not be impartial and will acquit regardless of what the evidence says.

Well, that's one thing - just getting trump to even face indictment is the first challenge, and there are plenty more along the way, but the jury thing is the hardest one to get straight to get an actual, just verdict.
 
2021-06-10 10:41:17 AM  

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2021-06-10 10:41:17 AM  
If he wasn't born rich he'd be a middle manager at a corporate chain right now, like Walgreens or something.

One with the worst customer service. You know the kind.
 
2021-06-10 10:41:27 AM  

MajorTubeSteak: Glorious Golden Ass: I'm surprised there haven't been attempts on Trump's life from the insurrectionists he riled up and then abandoned after they failed to deliver. He's been pretty clear that he thinks they were low class trash and doesn't really like any of them.

All those morans think he is going to be reinstalled in August, once the double secret virgin sacrifice ceremony has been completed.


/according to the prophecy


I think the virgins prefer to be called incels.

Trump certainly showed he was ready to sacrifice them for a small chance of his benefit.
 
2021-06-10 10:42:35 AM  

HerptheDerp: This article has been coming out every week for 4 years.

shiat or get off the pot.


So much THIS.
Stop talking and start arresting.
This blue ball edging isn't cutting it anymore.
 
2021-06-10 10:43:20 AM  

mudesi: I would like to take this opportunity to point out that I am a wizard.
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2021-06-10 10:55:41 AM  

eKonk: Well, that's one thing - just getting trump to even face indictment is the first challenge, and there are plenty more along the way, but the jury thing is the hardest one to get straight to get an actual, just verdict.


How many people would accept 'not guilty' as an actual, just verdict, or would they complain that there must have been a MAGA plant or the prosecutors threw the case?
 
2021-06-10 11:06:55 AM  
"Saving American democracy for the long run requires a clear condemnation of the Trump presidency. That means making clear that no one is above the law."

Step one would have to be changing our legal system so that no one is above the law.
 
2021-06-10 11:10:04 AM  
 
2021-06-10 11:15:15 AM  
That was fantastic. I pray that The right people read and understand. Trump must be punished or in short order we're going autocratic. Trump showed them all the weak spots and now they're rigging the system so next time, they can take over and there will be nothing they can't override if they don't get their preferred outcome.
 
2021-06-10 11:23:37 AM  

Avigdore: How many people would accept 'not guilty' as an actual, just verdict, or would they complain that there must have been a MAGA plant or the prosecutors threw the case?


After losing more than 70 post-election trials and continuing to bang the "Biden stole the election!" drum, it's pretty f*cking rich to watch a well-known Trump apologist come in here and pretend that it's "the other side" who would refuse to accept the outcome of a trial.

Your projection is noted, yawned at, and discarded.
 
2021-06-10 11:26:09 AM  

mudesi: I would like to take this opportunity to point out that I am a wizard.
https://www.fark.com/comments/11048941​/130735695#c130735695


At the time I read that and thought "geez, what an alarmist" .
 
2021-06-10 11:29:23 AM  
The case for prosecuting Trump is that he's a criminal who commits crimes.
 
2021-06-10 11:44:23 AM  
Prosecution would be done by unelected folks, not members of Congress doing what their constituents want to keep their jobs.
 
2021-06-10 11:47:23 AM  
Oh look, it's the defense for Biden's DoJ not protecting LGBTQ kids from discrimination.
 
2021-06-10 11:52:50 AM  

wiwille: The case for prosecuting Trump is that he's a criminal who commits crimes.


Literally every single President since Kennedy I think could legit be charged with war crimes because of what the media adorably calls "military adventurism".

I would love to see some kind of accountability but it's not going to happen.  Trump ain't getting charged with anything, it's a precedent neither party wants to see.  The President has to be totally unaccountable, both parties agree.
 
2021-06-10 11:57:57 AM  

Avigdore: eKonk: Well, that's one thing - just getting trump to even face indictment is the first challenge, and there are plenty more along the way, but the jury thing is the hardest one to get straight to get an actual, just verdict.

How many people would accept 'not guilty' as an actual, just verdict, or would they complain that there must have been a MAGA plant or the prosecutors threw the case?


Fair concern - for most, I'd assume (and hope) that it depends on the case made by the defense for each of the allegations, but there are plenty of people who hate trump who would vote 'guilty' regardless of the legal arguments (just as there are those who apparently love trump enough to vote 'not guilty' without regard to the evidence).

While ideally all jurors would vote impartially, I'm a bit less concerned about the automatic-guilty votes than I am about the automatic-not-guilty votes in terms of a just outcome. It would take every juror to be partial to finding a guilty verdict to convict, while it would only take one juror partial to declaring a not-guilty verdict to cause a mistrial (allowing trump to remain free, at least until/unless a new trial was held).
 
2021-06-10 11:59:06 AM  

misanthropicsob: Oh look, it's the defense for Biden's DoJ not protecting LGBTQ kids from discrimination.


Ya, look over there.
 
2021-06-10 12:01:18 PM  
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2021-06-10 12:17:40 PM  

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These people are not well.
 
2021-06-10 12:33:59 PM  
Let the feds ignore him. Let the states prosecute away. Somehow that seems like the best way to go.
 
2021-06-10 12:34:33 PM  
... because he committed a shiatload of crimes and the only case for not prosecuting him is that he used to be a president, which is not a case at all legally, constitutionally, or morally.
 
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