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(Twitter)   JBS paid $11 million to Russian ransomware gang to avoid the meatpocalypse   (twitter.com) divider line
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311 clicks; posted to Business » on 10 Jun 2021 at 10:46 AM (5 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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5 days ago  
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5 days ago  
Pocket change for that company, but it sets a bad precedent.
 
5 days ago  
And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.
 
5 days ago  

groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.


yes, but if we spent that money and nothing ever bad happened, then we just wasted that money.
 
5 days ago  
Way to invite more ransomeware attacks, JBS.
 
5 days ago  

El Dudereno: Pocket change for that company, but it sets a bad precedent.


JBS has about 235,000 employees...this amounts to ~$50 per employee.
 
5 days ago  

groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.


Would it?  JBS has over 78,000 employees according to Wikipedia.  I'm sure they 'saved' over $1 million/year by skimping on security.   What profit does IT generate after all?
 
5 days ago  

groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.


Running Linux would have cost less too.
 
5 days ago  

Hyjamon: El Dudereno: Pocket change for that company, but it sets a bad precedent.

JBS has about 235,000 employees...this amounts to ~$50 per employee.


are they taking it out of their paycheck?
 
5 days ago  

wingnut396: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Would it?  JBS has over 78,000 employees according to Wikipedia.  I'm sure they 'saved' over $1 million/year by skimping on security.   What profit does IT generate after all?


Number of employees is a horrible way to measure cost of almost anything other than per user licences. But yes, a multinational company would most likely spend far more than a million on an appropriate security program. 10 infosec pros on their own would have a yearly salary that would hit a million dollars. That's then not even counting any licensing costs for anything to actually support what they're doing, or the cost of actually changing the business.

This is why this keeps happening. Ransomware keeps happening because of very poor operational procedures. However, it's cheaper to run that way long term than it is to run in anyway that approaches 'correct.'
 
5 days ago  

Linux_Yes: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Running Linux would have cost less too.


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5 days ago  
Hey kids, see this is why consolidation in any industry is bad, m'kay?

If JBS was just one of hundreds of meat producing companies, no-one would have cared and they wouldn't have been such a tempting target.
 
5 days ago  

groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.


I doubt it.  Good network security isn't cheap.  Especially with 78,000 meat based attack vectors plus lots of very expensive equipment where the company that made the control system went belly up 5+ years ago and there's no good replacement for it.
 
5 days ago  

TheGreatGazoo: 78,000 meat based attack vectors


That is a great name for a porn movie.
 
5 days ago  

LL316: Way to invite more ransomeware attacks, JBS.


Its important that bad behavior gets rewarded.
 
5 days ago  

rightClick: Hyjamon: El Dudereno: Pocket change for that company, but it sets a bad precedent.

JBS has about 235,000 employees...this amounts to ~$50 per employee.

are they taking it out of their paycheck?


Well, they aren't going to take it out of the CEO's
 
5 days ago  

rightClick: Hyjamon: El Dudereno: Pocket change for that company, but it sets a bad precedent.

JBS has about 235,000 employees...this amounts to ~$50 per employee.

are they taking it out of their paycheck?


I was thinking of just cancelling the company picnic and christmas hams.
 
5 days ago  

groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.


THIS times 11 million.
 
5 days ago  
It's operational security as well as infrastructure security.

Teach good operational security, audit it, and give a 30 day improvement program for violators. Repeat violators get fired.

The overhead for doing things reasonably correctly is not nearly as high as what people whine about. The consequences for not doing things reasonably correctly can be expensive to business-ending.
 
5 days ago  

groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.


Doubtful.  IT for a company of that size dwarfs this payout.  Also, cybersecurity costs go on FOREVER!!!....muuuuahahahahaha!

/Use analog control systems if you can
 
5 days ago  
So their offsite backups were tainted as well?
 
5 days ago  

sleze: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Doubtful.  IT for a company of that size dwarfs this payout.  Also, cybersecurity costs go on FOREVER!!!....muuuuahahahahaha!

/Use analog control systems if you can


That has its own problems. Do you want to be jumping every 33 minutes? I don't.
 
5 days ago  

snowybunting: So their offsite backups were tainted as well?


Had a slick talking dude in IT that slowly convinced management to make everyone turn over all their servers to his responsibility.  We fought tooth and nail to stop him from taking over ours because he couldn't provide basic OQE like test results, disaster recover plans, etc but we were finally directed to turn over the keys.  After he had all the servers, he got a big promotion.

6 months later, we had a major server crash over a weekend because cooling failed and the temperature monitor was not hooked up to anything that would notify someone to come in.  Basically the hard drives cooked themselves to death starting around 11pm on Friday.

The other department servers were really FARKED because they did not have any spare hardware.  But for us, he used the spare motherboard, circuit cards and hard drives that WE had purchased the year before.  Then he tried to use the offsite backups he had been making.  Nothing.  Turns out he never tested them and they had been running, AND FAILING, ever since he took over.  We angrily took over control, used the 6 month old backup tapes that WE still owned and then worked with our engineers' local copies (no one really trusted him) to restore the rest.  In the end, we only lost a few minor files but it cost us probably $500K in man hours to get it all back to working order.

Dude must have had naked pics of upper management because he was just transferred.

/NCSB
 
5 days ago  

Linux_Yes: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Running Linux would have cost less too.


You are aware that Linux with bad security is just as easily hacked and locked up as windows with bad security, right?
 
4 days ago  

fortheloveof: Linux_Yes: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Running Linux would have cost less too.

You are aware that Linux with bad security is just as easily hacked and locked up as windows with bad security, right?


Wrong

A default install of pretty much any Linux distro is more secure online than the default install of windows 10

To think otherwise tells me you dont work in IT.
 
4 days ago  

fortheloveof: Linux_Yes: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Running Linux would have cost less too.

You are aware that Linux with bad security is just as easily hacked and locked up as windows with bad security, right?


Why do u think the navy moved their drone systems from windows to Linux?
Boredom??

Why did the NY stock exchange go to Linux??

Why did the ISS move their laptops to Linux from windows??

You really should either stop lying or do some research before opening your mouth.
 
4 days ago  

Linux_Yes: fortheloveof: Linux_Yes: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Running Linux would have cost less too.

You are aware that Linux with bad security is just as easily hacked and locked up as windows with bad security, right?

Wrong

A default install of pretty much any Linux distro is more secure online than the default install of windows 10

To think otherwise tells me you dont work in IT.


oh_wait_you're_serious.meme
 
4 days ago  

Linux_Yes: fortheloveof: Linux_Yes: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Running Linux would have cost less too.

You are aware that Linux with bad security is just as easily hacked and locked up as windows with bad security, right?

Why do u think the navy moved their drone systems from windows to Linux?
Boredom??

Why did the NY stock exchange go to Linux??

Why did the ISS move their laptops to Linux from windows??

You really should either stop lying or do some research before opening your mouth.


The rare double reply. Don't get that from fanbois often.

Look I actually like linux as a whole, and if I had my druthers I would have the Army switch over to Red Hat yesterday over windows 10.

But bad security is bad security, regardless of the operating system involved.

Linux has plenty of exploits to be used, and the consequences are just as bad for it as it is for windows.

Linux is not a magic bullet that hackers cannot overcome. People do not simply go, "no not Linux!" and quit trying.

Windows is the more popular target due to its popularity in the enterprise market. Poor security practices with Linux enterprise environments are just as bad as Windows.
 
4 days ago  

fortheloveof: Linux_Yes: fortheloveof: Linux_Yes: groppet: And good network security would have cost way less than that probably.

Running Linux would have cost less too.

You are aware that Linux with bad security is just as easily hacked and locked up as windows with bad security, right?

Why do u think the navy moved their drone systems from windows to Linux?
Boredom??

Why did the NY stock exchange go to Linux??

Why did the ISS move their laptops to Linux from windows??

You really should either stop lying or do some research before opening your mouth.

The rare double reply. Don't get that from fanbois often.

Look I actually like linux as a whole, and if I had my druthers I would have the Army switch over to Red Hat yesterday over windows 10.

But bad security is bad security, regardless of the operating system involved.

Linux has plenty of exploits to be used, and the consequences are just as bad for it as it is for windows.

Linux is not a magic bullet that hackers cannot overcome. People do not simply go, "no not Linux!" and quit trying.

Windows is the more popular target due to its popularity in the enterprise market. Poor security practices with Linux enterprise environments are just as bad as Windows.


The mega-pharmacy where I work has around 9,000 locations. Each location has (around) 8-12 computers running Windows 7, using IE for our intranet and sometimes Edge for the few websites we're allowed to access. Each point of sale is running Windows 7 embedded, and you can easily get to the BIOS upon boot so you can choose to boot from USB.

I'm surprised we haven't been digitally decimated yet.
 
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