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(The Daily Beast)   Yes, McGahn lied to the President. Why? "Because I wanted to get off the phone". Just part of the "Crazy shiat" that came out of his closed door testimony   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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6 days ago  
That's Trump's super power: People will say anything to get away from him. Comey said he agreed that Mike Flynn "was a good guy" just to get out of the room.
 
6 days ago  
I had a crazy shiat once. It jumped out of the bowl and started singing and dancing like that Chuck Jones frog. Now that was some crazy shiat.
 
6 days ago  
The ol "I just needed to get him off so i did whatever he asked which let me get off too" trick.   Wonder if thats what Hope Hicks was thinking too......
 
6 days ago  
You chose to have this job! You could have left at any time! People with government positions can easily fall upward.
 
6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: I had a crazy shiat once. It jumped out of the bowl and started singing and dancing like that Chuck Jones frog. Now that was some crazy shiat.


Sure you did...

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6 days ago  
Told you Trump is precisely like my mom in every way.
 
6 days ago  
The amount of collateral damage the drooling non-entity did in the form of people who just said "yeah, whatever" to him, just to get him to STFU is probably incalculable.
 
6 days ago  

Purple_Urkle: Told you Trump is precisely like my mom in every way.


Damn. Your mom paid hush money to Stormy Daniels?
 
6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: I had a crazy shiat once. It jumped out of the bowl and started singing and dancing like that Chuck Jones frog. Now that was some crazy shiat.


Did it love me vicariously?
 
6 days ago  
You have to agree with him, because if you don't he won't leave you alone unless you do.
 
6 days ago  

FatherChaos: Purple_Urkle: Told you Trump is precisely like my mom in every way.

Damn. Your mom paid hush money to Stormy Daniels?


She has a tendency to try to bribe her way out of problems. The specifics aren't the same.

Trump and my mom have a terrifying amount in common and he touched my mom before 2016 and she still lives. o_O

What forms do I need to fill out to have the government take her away for study? She's a great template for identifying threat-humans. I knew Trump was trouble immediately because he's just so much like my mom.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: I had a crazy shiat once. It jumped out of the bowl and started singing and dancing like that Chuck Jones frog. Now that was some crazy shiat.


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6 days ago  
We've all seen clips of that Fox morning show where Trump calls in, and you can see it in the eyes of every single vapid host:  they're all thinking, "I would mutilate my own genitals to get out of this conversation, but I can't because I'm live on the air, but on the other hand, that might get such amazing ratings, maybe it would be worth it just so I don't have to smile and nod while this idiot rambles on, I mean, sure, I like my genitals, but listening to him and pretending that he's making sense is the hardest thing I've ever endured, and what if, someday, America comes to its senses and decides to rightfully punish all of us vapid idiots who enabled him?"
 
6 days ago  

HighOnCraic: We've all seen clips of that Fox morning show where Trump calls in, and you can see it in the eyes of every single vapid host:  they're all thinking, "I would mutilate my own genitals to get out of this conversation, but I can't because I'm live on the air, but on the other hand, that might get such amazing ratings, maybe it would be worth it just so I don't have to smile and nod while this idiot rambles on, I mean, sure, I like my genitals, but listening to him and pretending that he's making sense is the hardest thing I've ever endured, and what if, someday, America comes to its senses and decides to rightfully punish all of us vapid idiots who enabled him?"


you didn't have to enable him to be punished...
 
6 days ago  

HighOnCraic: We've all seen clips of that Fox morning show where Trump calls in, and you can see it in the eyes of every single vapid host:  they're all thinking, "I would mutilate my own genitals to get out of this conversation, but I can't because I'm live on the air, but on the other hand, that might get such amazing ratings, maybe it would be worth it just so I don't have to smile and nod while this idiot rambles on, I mean, sure, I like my genitals, but listening to him and pretending that he's making sense is the hardest thing I've ever endured, and what if, someday, America comes to its senses and decides to rightfully punish all of us vapid idiots who enabled him?"


There's one where they're trying to hang up on him with a "We know you've got a busy day ahead of you Mr. President so we'll let you go..." and he keeps interrupting them and going on another 5 minute tirade. You can see the pain in their eyes as they've checked out of the conversation long ago but he keeps rambling on.
 
6 days ago  
I listened to the whole hour of Trump on the phone to the Georgia Sec of State when that was leaked late last year and it was hard work, but it was pretty amazing to hear how much of his own bullshiat Trump seemed to genuinely believe and that's what kept me interested. The call was characterised as Trump trying to convince the Georgians to do illegal stuff but I found that, in the context of the whole call, it was more about Trump being unable to believe that everybody couldn't see things exactly his way. It was bullying in a way but it was also pathetic pandering and simple grumpiness and altogether childish crap. Trump wasn't directly asking them to do illegal stuff, instead he couldn't get why they couldn't find the evidence of the illegality he knew was out there but could barely describe or detail when he tried doing that.

So yeah, if it's your job to take that childish, unrealistic and petulant bullshiat seriously then it's going to be a tough day at the office. At least the Georgians could (and did) point out that Trump's "evidence" was non-existant and they weren't going to act on bullshiat. But if you worked in the White House and couldn't ignore it that would have been a tough gig.

I don't know how Trump survived years in business, although I do find it easy to get that he lost money on casinos and various other ventures which in sensible hands should have turned profit. Maybe real estate is entirely about bullshiat, that's the only explanation I can offer.
 
6 days ago  

Purple_Urkle: Told you Trump is precisely like my mom in every way.


Hi fam.
 
6 days ago  

Aussie_As: I listened to the whole hour of Trump on the phone to the Georgia Sec of State when that was leaked late last year and it was hard work, but it was pretty amazing to hear how much of his own bullshiat Trump seemed to genuinely believe and that's what kept me interested. The call was characterised as Trump trying to convince the Georgians to do illegal stuff but I found that, in the context of the whole call, it was more about Trump being unable to believe that everybody couldn't see things exactly his way. It was bullying in a way but it was also pathetic pandering and simple grumpiness and altogether childish crap. Trump wasn't directly asking them to do illegal stuff, instead he couldn't get why they couldn't find the evidence of the illegality he knew was out there but could barely describe or detail when he tried doing that.


Whenever he's trying to gaslight you he puts on this pouty little pleading voice, where he's essentially begging you to just accept the reality that's in his mind because he's never going to leave you alone until you do.

"Brad...Brad.. Brad listen. Brad. Listen. Brad. You want the truth? Here it is: I won this election. I WON this election. You know I won this election. Everyone knows it. Don't go by the voting results. You can't trust them. They're fake. Fraudulent. The Democrats cheated. The truth is I won this election. By a lot. You've always known this. You can't let the Democrats get away with it. You just can't. You know you can't. Brad, do the right thing. You must stop the Democrats from stealing this election. You're the only one you can do it. The American people are depending on you to do it. You know I won. Do the right thing. You know I won. I won."

But the more you listen to him repeat himself, the more you get the sense that he's mostly doing it for himself, not you. Like it's his therapy or daily affirmation, a mantra he repeats over and over again to fill his mind with only the good stuff and shut out the bad stuff. He spends most of his day in this state, constantly convincing himself of his own bullshiat, he just does it publicly while asking others for validation.
 
6 days ago  

EdwardTellerhands: That's Trump's super power: People will say anything to get away from him. Comey said he agreed that Mike Flynn "was a good guy" just to get out of the room.


It's the secret power of crazy people everywhere. I think we've all been in that situation where "nod politely and get the fark out of there" became an act of self-preservation, because the alternative was getting into an argument with a lunatic.

The difference is that we normally do that with great-uncle Jerry who hasn't been the same since the tractor roll-over, not to prevent ourselves from engaging in a criminal conspiracy with the President of the United States.
 
6 days ago  

Ishkur: "Brad...Brad.. Brad listen. Brad. Listen. Brad. You want the truth? Here it is: I won this election. I WON this election. You know I won this election. Everyone knows it. Don't go by the voting results. You can't trust them. They're fake. Fraudulent. The Democrats cheated. The truth is I won this election. By a lot. You've always known this. You can't let the Democrats get away with it. You just can't. You know you can't. Brad, do the right thing. You must stop the Democrats from stealing this election. You're the only one you can do it. The American people are depending on you to do it. You know I won. Do the right thing. You know I won. I won."


Yep, it is ENTIRELY plausible that's the actual quote. Whatever it was was a close paraphrase no doubt.
 
6 days ago  

Aussie_As: Ishkur: "Brad...Brad.. Brad listen. Brad. Listen. Brad. You want the truth? Here it is: I won this election. I WON this election. You know I won this election. Everyone knows it. Don't go by the voting results. You can't trust them. They're fake. Fraudulent. The Democrats cheated. The truth is I won this election. By a lot. You've always known this. You can't let the Democrats get away with it. You just can't. You know you can't. Brad, do the right thing. You must stop the Democrats from stealing this election. You're the only one you can do it. The American people are depending on you to do it. You know I won. Do the right thing. You know I won. I won."

Yep, it is ENTIRELY plausible that's the actual quote. Whatever it was was a close paraphrase no doubt.


I had to go to the transcript to make sure.
 
6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: I had a crazy shiat once. It jumped out of the bowl and started singing and dancing like that Chuck Jones frog. Now that was some crazy shiat.


Come on now!  Its not nice to talk about Mike that way.  I know he gets lurkers riled up but most of us know it's an act.
 
6 days ago  

Ishkur: HighOnCraic: We've all seen clips of that Fox morning show where Trump calls in, and you can see it in the eyes of every single vapid host:  they're all thinking, "I would mutilate my own genitals to get out of this conversation, but I can't because I'm live on the air, but on the other hand, that might get such amazing ratings, maybe it would be worth it just so I don't have to smile and nod while this idiot rambles on, I mean, sure, I like my genitals, but listening to him and pretending that he's making sense is the hardest thing I've ever endured, and what if, someday, America comes to its senses and decides to rightfully punish all of us vapid idiots who enabled him?"

There's one where they're trying to hang up on him with a "We know you've got a busy day ahead of you Mr. President so we'll let you go..." and he keeps interrupting them and going on another 5 minute tirade. You can see the pain in their eyes as they've checked out of the conversation long ago but he keeps rambling on.


"Hey, Mr. President, sir, we're about to head through a tunnel, so if we lose connection, that's why..."
 
6 days ago  
On the one hand we are or read about all these people that think Man-child is a moron, an idiot, deplorable, dumb, horrible person, narcissistic, etc.

On the other hand we see all these same people continued to not just work for him, but worked to see him get re-elected. They knowingly wanted a moronic narcissistic Man-child dangerous to this nation. In good old days they would be hanging from trees for their treason, now they get plum jobs on FAUX news.
 
6 days ago  

KodosZardoz: I had a crazy shiat once. It jumped out of the bowl and started singing and dancing like that Chuck Jones frog. Now that was some crazy shiat.


speaking of which, where the hell is mike lol?  haven't seen him about.
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  

ssa5: On the one hand we are or read about all these people that think Man-child is a moron, an idiot, deplorable, dumb, horrible person, narcissistic, etc.

On the other hand we see all these same people continued to not just work for him, but worked to see him get re-elected. They knowingly wanted a moronic narcissistic Man-child dangerous to this nation. In good old days they would be hanging from trees for their treason, now they get plum jobs on FAUX news.


Well, yeah. They know if they flatter that blithering idiot, he will sign whatever they put in front of him. Also, his theatrically horrible behavior distracts from their own misdeeds.
 
6 days ago  
So he agreed to be a fascist to get out of a conversation with his boss?

That's his justification?
 
6 days ago  

Ishkur: Aussie_As: I listened to the whole hour of Trump on the phone to the Georgia Sec of State when that was leaked late last year and it was hard work, but it was pretty amazing to hear how much of his own bullshiat Trump seemed to genuinely believe and that's what kept me interested. The call was characterised as Trump trying to convince the Georgians to do illegal stuff but I found that, in the context of the whole call, it was more about Trump being unable to believe that everybody couldn't see things exactly his way. It was bullying in a way but it was also pathetic pandering and simple grumpiness and altogether childish crap. Trump wasn't directly asking them to do illegal stuff, instead he couldn't get why they couldn't find the evidence of the illegality he knew was out there but could barely describe or detail when he tried doing that.

Whenever he's trying to gaslight you he puts on this pouty little pleading voice, where he's essentially begging you to just accept the reality that's in his mind because he's never going to leave you alone until you do.

"Brad...Brad.. Brad listen. Brad. Listen. Brad. You want the truth? Here it is: I won this election. I WON this election. You know I won this election. Everyone knows it. Don't go by the voting results. You can't trust them. They're fake. Fraudulent. The Democrats cheated. The truth is I won this election. By a lot. You've always known this. You can't let the Democrats get away with it. You just can't. You know you can't. Brad, do the right thing. You must stop the Democrats from stealing this election. You're the only one you can do it. The American people are depending on you to do it. You know I won. Do the right thing. You know I won. I won."

But the more you listen to him repeat himself, the more you get the sense that he's mostly doing it for himself, not you. Like it's his therapy or daily affirmation, a mantra he repeats over and over again to fill his mind with only the good stuff and shut out the bad ...


Donnieboy is a firm and unwavering adherent to the Costanza Doctrine, and insists that everyone else should be as well.

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6 days ago  

Ishkur: But the more you listen to him repeat himself, the more you get the sense that he's mostly doing it for himself, not you. Like it's his therapy or daily affirmation, a mantra he repeats over and over again to fill his mind with only the good stuff and shut out the bad stuff. He spends most of his day in this state, constantly convincing himself of his own bullshiat, he just does it publicly while asking others for validation


Which tracks perfectly; he grew up attending Norman Vincent Peale's church. Combine that with the idea of speaking something into existence and suddenly "John Miller" and "John Barron" make a whole helluva lot more sense.

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6 days ago  
Even there McGahn failed his country.   Every minute someone kept Trump on the phone ranting was one less minute Trump could be destroying the country.  A real patriot would let him talk for hours.
 
6 days ago  
My go-to phrase when I need to get off the phone is "the cat's on fire."

We have this one guy at work who will not stop talking on the phone.  I'll be like "yes, Gary, I understand, yes, I'll take care of it, yes, I have to go, I have work to...yes, Gary, I understand.  Yes, I heard you the f...GARY, THE CAT'S ON FIRE, I HAVE TO GO. *click*"
 
6 days ago  

xanadian: My go-to phrase when I need to get off the phone is "the cat's on fire."

We have this one guy at work who will not stop talking on the phone.  I'll be like "yes, Gary, I understand, yes, I'll take care of it, yes, I have to go, I have work to...yes, Gary, I understand.  Yes, I heard you the f...GARY, THE CAT'S ON FIRE, I HAVE TO GO. *click*"


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6 days ago  
My old Trumpesque boss used to be like this but I would never agree with him on one of his stupid ideas because that would mean if when it blew up and failed I or another who agreed to it would be the one who caught the blame. I usually followed up any talk we had about a project with an email reiterating how I felt about it just to CYA.
 
6 days ago  

Aussie_As: I don't know how Trump survived years in business, although I do find it easy to get that he lost money on casinos and various other ventures which in sensible hands should have turned profit. Maybe real estate is entirely about bullshiat, that's the only explanation I can offer.


If you look into it, like the NYT did, you'll see that he didn't survive in business but has been bailed out time after time by other people.

First by his father, then by his father's inheritance, then by NBC, and after that by what looks to be organized crime.

Trump is so incompetent at being a businessman that he'd be far richer if he just took all the money that was ever handed to him and stuck it in conservative index funds.  My bank auto-deduction is a better at making money than he is.
 
6 days ago  
So wait.

THIS was the testimony he fought so hard to avoid giving?

Who the fark cares?
 
6 days ago  

Albino Squid: I think we've all been in that situation where "nod politely and get the fark out of there" became an act of self-preservation, because the alternative was getting into an argument with a lunatic.


Those who have not seem likely to be among the lunatics.
 
6 days ago  

IAmRight: Ishkur: HighOnCraic: We've all seen clips of that Fox morning show where Trump calls in, and you can see it in the eyes of every single vapid host:  they're all thinking, "I would mutilate my own genitals to get out of this conversation, but I can't because I'm live on the air, but on the other hand, that might get such amazing ratings, maybe it would be worth it just so I don't have to smile and nod while this idiot rambles on, I mean, sure, I like my genitals, but listening to him and pretending that he's making sense is the hardest thing I've ever endured, and what if, someday, America comes to its senses and decides to rightfully punish all of us vapid idiots who enabled him?"

There's one where they're trying to hang up on him with a "We know you've got a busy day ahead of you Mr. President so we'll let you go..." and he keeps interrupting them and going on another 5 minute tirade. You can see the pain in their eyes as they've checked out of the conversation long ago but he keeps rambling on.

"Hey, Mr. President, sir, we're about to head through a tunnel, so if we lose connection, that's why..."


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6 days ago  
A VP heard from someone that wifi was slower than wired in part due to being half duplex and called to ask if I could "look into making all of our wifi connections full duplex for better performance" so McGahn's answer is entirely understandable to me.

Sometimes when someone asks you to do something so outlandishly dumb you just "Oh sure, that sounds like it would be a good idea, let me go start looking into that right away" and then turn around and put on some cartoons to recover your mind.
 
6 days ago  

Ishkur: Like it's his therapy or daily affirmation, a mantra he repeats over and over again to fill his mind with only the good stuff and shut out the bad stuff. He spends most of his day in this state, constantly convincing himself of his own bullshiat, he just does it publicly while asking others for validation.


"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh-darnit, people like me.  In fact, just the other day, a big general, medals like you wouldn't believe, came up to me and said, 'Sir, I like you, and I respect you, and in fact,' and he started crying then, big tears, so many tears, 'Sir, I fear you.'  And many people are saying that.  Many, many people."
 
6 days ago  
Yeah, insufferable assholes tend to have that effect on people.
 
6 days ago  

HighOnCraic: We've all seen clips of that Fox morning show where Trump calls in, and you can see it in the eyes of every single vapid host:  they're all thinking, "I would mutilate my own genitals to get out of this conversation, but I can't because I'm live on the air, but on the other hand, that might get such amazing ratings, maybe it would be worth it just so I don't have to smile and nod while this idiot rambles on, I mean, sure, I like my genitals, but listening to him and pretending that he's making sense is the hardest thing I've ever endured, and what if, someday, America comes to its senses and decides to rightfully punish all of us vapid idiots who enabled him?"


Daily Show had a field day with these. My favorite example was the one where he called Fox and Morons and rambled on for like 24 straight minutes, and one of the hosts said something like, "Well, Mr. President, I'm sure you're a very busy man, we don't want to keep you," and he actually responded with something like, "No, no, I can keep talking, nothin' better to do."

The weird thing is how happy they were that he was the President in the beginning:

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...and their reaction when they realized this guy was going to take all of their energy:

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They really did start looking like hostages. I wonder when the "My God, what have we done" moment really started to hit. (Picture is linked, if I did it right.) Big props to the "This is my career now" expression on the chick in the middle. I wish they'd have spent at least some of the last four years trying to add up the decisions that led them here. This would be a better country if they did.
 
5 days ago  

peasandcarrots: They really did start looking like hostages. I wonder when the "My God, what have we done" moment really started to hit. (Picture is linked, if I did it right.) Big props to the "This is my career now" expression on the chick in the middle. I wish they'd have spent at least some of the last four years trying to add up the decisions that led them here. This would be a better country if they did.


They would have been so much happier if they could have spent the last four years being angry about Hillary.
 
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