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(YouTube)   Former Rep. Barbara Comstock (R-VA), who is not a liberal, says the GOP needs to dump Trump in order to survive   (youtube.com) divider line
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2021-06-09 7:20:53 PM  
But, will they?

/Unlikely.
 
2021-06-09 7:27:12 PM  
You say she's not liberal, but you also say she's against Trump. Both cannot be true, subby! It says so right here in my Trumptionary. "Liberal" == "anti-Trump" == "hoax" == "bad"
 
2021-06-09 7:29:03 PM  
Keyword 'Former'

Those no longer in power have no issue saying Trump is insane. And one of the main reasons is they don't have to do anything other than say he's insane.
 
2021-06-09 7:33:20 PM  
More like she needs to dump the Republican Party. The Republican Party has sent the message loud and clear that the future is even more white anxiety and fascism.
 
2021-06-09 7:43:51 PM  
Those former elected republicans sure are courageous.


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2021-06-09 8:32:17 PM  
This reminds me... the minute after I retired, I'm going to tell my boss to fark off.
 
2021-06-09 8:33:22 PM  
They'll never betray the Fuhrer.

The first rule of the GOP-Evangelical culture is:

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2021-06-09 8:35:55 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Keyword 'Former'

Those no longer in power have no issue saying Trump is insane. And one of the main reasons is they don't have to do anything other than say he's insane.


You have to quit to be honest in the GQP.
 
2021-06-09 9:40:28 PM  
Seems like they're doing just fine to me.

Will be taking back the House and Senate in 2022 (and are one D Senator from a red state kicking the bucket to talking it now)

Are passing voter suppressions laws in state after state

Have a huge SCROTUS majority.

Essentially have control of the DOJ.

And the biggest advantage ------ the opposition party are spineless cowards.
 
2021-06-09 10:42:43 PM  
I stole a Barbara Comstock bandit sign and was going to change it from "BARBARA COMSTOCK 2018" to "BARBARA COMSTOCK DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU" but I was too lazy.
 
6 days ago  
Well, duh.
 
6 days ago  

scottydoesntknow: Keyword 'Former'

Those no longer in power have no issue saying Trump is insane. And one of the main reasons is they don't have to do anything other than say he's insane.


All you need to know to dismiss anything that comes out of their pie-hole.
 
6 days ago  
Tell it to Barry Goldwater, Barbara, because he's the only one who might care.
 
6 days ago  
Relevant

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6 days ago  
The survival of the Republican party is incompatible with the survival of civil society in North America, and possibly the world, so anyone who wants to preserve it should be put up against a wall immediately regardless of their opinions about the orange asshole against the wall next to them
 
6 days ago  
Oh a FORMER GOP politician said something about Trump? Something negative? This changes EVERYTHING
 
6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
Another former republican finding courage. Big f*cking deal.
 
6 days ago  
I would have no problem with the GOP not surviving. The difficulty is that they are under the impression that we signed on to their death pact.
 
6 days ago  
She's not wrong. She's from a district in the fast-growing Virginia suburbs of DC that used to be purple but has been constantly voting Democrat since Trump was elected.

This trend is playing out in suburban districts all across the country but the GOP has their head too far up Trump's ass to realize it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgi​n​ia%27s_10th_congressional_district#/me​dia/File%3AVirginia_US_Congressional_D​istrict_10_(since_2013).tif
 
6 days ago  
Let's dispel this notion that the GOP needs to survive. You are better off without it.
 
6 days ago  
Former Grima Wormtongue aide suggests Saruman may have overstepped authority.
 
6 days ago  
Kind of a dumb premise. Less that the GOP needs to rid itself of a particular person and more that they need to do away with a toxic way of thinking.

Like who cares about Donnie when you have psychos like Cruz or Rand Paul or MTG in the wings.
And after them, a hundred more in state houses across the country. And behind them a populace of slobbering, blind rabble ready to be led head first into poutrage.

I'd say the best thing for everyone would be for the GOP to abandon their fascist, anti-science, blind rage, but, that's antithetical to the party. The best thing for people like Mrs Comstock would be to disavow the party and it's fascist position, and call for democratic protections at all levels of government.
 
6 days ago  
I used to live in Comstock's district before our last move.

She's evil, but she's *not* stupid - *especially* by Republican standards.  No blatantly stupid Republican is going to get elected in Fairfax County, Virginia.
 
6 days ago  
Let them fight ..
 
6 days ago  

wooden_badger: Seems like they're doing just fine to me.

Will be taking back the House and Senate in 2022 (and are one D Senator from a red state kicking the bucket to talking it now)

Are passing voter suppressions laws in state after state

Have a huge SCROTUS majority.

Essentially have control of the DOJ.

And the biggest advantage ------ the opposition party are spineless cowards.


dems have spines. We just aren't aggressive enough.

Besides, evil will always win because good is dumb.
 
6 days ago  
But while she was in power, on the campaign trail, and making decisions, she was more than happy to lay the foundations that allowed Trump to come to power and solidify his republican base of racists, nazis, conspiracy theorists and traitors.

fark her. A dull guillotine would be too nice for her.
 
6 days ago  
Haha, good luck. They're so divorced from reality that they're completely gone. There's no coming back for them.
 
6 days ago  

lincoln65: Kind of a dumb premise. Less that the GOP needs to rid itself of a particular person and more that they need to do away with a toxic way of thinking.

Like who cares about Donnie when you have psychos like Cruz or Rand Paul or MTG in the wings.
And after them, a hundred more in state houses across the country. And behind them a populace of slobbering, blind rabble ready to be led head first into poutrage.

I'd say the best thing for everyone would be for the GOP to abandon their fascist, anti-science, blind rage, but, that's antithetical to the party. The best thing for people like Mrs Comstock would be to disavow the party and it's fascist position, and call for democratic protections at all levels of government.


Username checks out.  Proud to have you aboard, Mr. President.
 
6 days ago  
GOP excommunication in 3... 2...
 
6 days ago  

Kumana Wanalaia: Tell it to Barry Goldwater, Barbara, because he's the only one who might care.


And if she's gonna go back in time, she should go back to a point really early in his career, or it will be too late.

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6 days ago  
oh look, another "former".  Lets some people in power actually start to say that.  But they won't because they're all cowards and opportunists.
 
6 days ago  

HighOnCraic: Kumana Wanalaia: Tell it to Barry Goldwater, Barbara, because he's the only one who might care.

And if she's gonna go back in time, she should go back to a point really early in his career, or it will be too late.

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What "qualifications" do you need to be a member of a church, aside from intent to ascribe to the tenets of its particular religion? Really, I don't know. I haven't been to a church except for a wedding or funeral since my mom could no longer physically drag me there.
 
6 days ago  
As far as the MAGAzis are concerned, Comstock is just an old relic of the GOP's "mainstream" era whom they'd load onto the cattle car along with the rest of us if they ever seized power again.
 
6 days ago  

wooden_badger: Seems like they're doing just fine to me.

Will be taking back the House and Senate in 2022 (and are one D Senator from a red state kicking the bucket to talking it now)

Are passing voter suppressions laws in state after state

Have a huge SCROTUS majority.

Essentially have control of the DOJ.

And the biggest advantage ------ the opposition party are spineless cowards.


The Dems will never be in charge again.  America deserves it at this point for letting it happen.  At least it can be an object lesson for the civilized world.
 
6 days ago  

zimbach: HighOnCraic: Kumana Wanalaia: Tell it to Barry Goldwater, Barbara, because he's the only one who might care.

And if she's gonna go back in time, she should go back to a point really early in his career, or it will be too late.

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What "qualifications" do you need to be a member of a church, aside from intent to ascribe to the tenets of its particular religion? Really, I don't know. I haven't been to a church except for a wedding or funeral since my mom could no longer physically drag me there.


I guess it varies from church to church; for some, you just have to show up, for others, there may be rules for showing your intent to ascribe to the tenets.
 
6 days ago  

mcnguyen: wooden_badger: Seems like they're doing just fine to me.

Will be taking back the House and Senate in 2022 (and are one D Senator from a red state kicking the bucket to talking it now)

Are passing voter suppressions laws in state after state

Have a huge SCROTUS majority.

Essentially have control of the DOJ.

And the biggest advantage ------ the opposition party are spineless cowards.

The Dems will never be in charge again.  America deserves it at this point for letting it happen.  At least it can be an object lesson for the civilized world.


I thought the Roman Empire was the object lesson ... I guess it's one of those lessons that has to be reinforced repeatedly over the centuries.
 
6 days ago  
I don't understand why people think that the GOP has a Donald Trump problem. Donald is only saying the quiet thing out loud that they've all been muttering and fermenting like a wound for decades. They courted this precise element, now they're upset that they're prisoners of the very things they claimed to be for, by the man too stupid to STFU and not make the problem they created worse.
 
6 days ago  

MisterMook: I don't understand why people think that the GOP has a Donald Trump problem. Donald is only saying the quiet thing out loud that they've all been muttering and fermenting like a wound for decades. They courted this precise element, now they're upset that they're prisoners of the very things they claimed to be for, by the man too stupid to STFU and not make the problem they created worse.


Old and busted:

Republican leaders couldn't stop the far right from briefly taking control of the 1964 convention and nominating Goldwater. But it ultimately proved beneficial to the party. The extremists had their chance and lost in one of the great blowouts in history. This chastened them [LOL!]and allowed regular party leaders to reassert control and nominate Richard Nixon in 1968, who proceeded to accommodate the Great Society by trying to make it work more efficiently, just as Dwight Eisenhower had done with the New Deal.

For a few years, this technocratic version of conservatism dominated the GOP. Perhaps without Nixon's resignation and Gerald Ford's defeat in 1976, the technocrats might have remained in control of the party. But just as Goldwater's defeat was treated as a defeat for conservative ideas, the ignoble end to the Nixon and Ford administrations signaled a defeat for Republican moderates, who were tolerated by the conservative rank-and-file only as long as they won. In defeat, the party base had no patience for them.

From the ashes of the Ford defeat, a new group of Republican leaders epitomized by Jack Kemp and Ronald Reagan revived a more full-throated conservatism. But they were not the sort of conservatives who ruled the party in 1964; they had learned from Goldwater's defeat that uncompromising conservatism would not sell. [LOL!]

https://www.politico.com/magazine/sto​r​y/2015/07/moderate-republicans-donald-​trump-tea-party-conservative-fringe-20​16-120675/

They relatively sane ones keep thinking, "Oh, the party will be better because we've learned so much from the mistakes of the past!" while the base keeps thinking, "Those weren't mistakes!"
 
6 days ago  
I was under the impression that the unspoken agreement between both parties is that we're all just waiting on nature to do it's thing based on age and current condition?
 
6 days ago  
No f*cking sh*t. But in the meantime there are a lot of grifters who got elected who realize that they still have some stuff that they haven't tricked them out of yet, so the point is sort of moot while grift runs the RNC and the State caucuses.
 
6 days ago  
What Idiocracy missed is how hate filled people are.
 
6 days ago  
no, just they just need to dump low-information voters.
Of course, that requires a major platform overhaul, but what you gonna do?
 
6 days ago  
I don't think they need to dump Trump to survive, I think that they need to dump him in order to have any credibility with anybody with more than a double digit IQ.  I think the challenge is that Trump pulls in people not previously interested in politics like nobody's business.  Mostly because he's an entertainer and a slick con man.

So, while much of the GOP may hate the message, they are not going to complain about the results.  After all, sticking it to the liberals is more important that actually supporting a quality candidate that represents the supposed ideals of the party.  That's not limited strictly to the GOP by the way.  I think both sides are just as if not more interested in screwing each other over rather than trying to advance any meaningful policy objectives.

For a long time I considered myself a moderate Republican, mostly because I am fiscally conservative but lean a little left on most social issues.  Trump's nomination was the clarion call for me that moderate's had no place in the modern GOP and that the evangelical base will continue its irrational rule of the party for a long time to come.

The problem for me was that the Democrats have their own issues.  From my perspective it's a party that also panders too much to its extremes.  On top of that, there is the infighting about if their more moderate members are "liberal enough" to be in the party.

So, I went independent and doubled down on voting issues and not party.  I would be interested to know how many people had similar shifts.  It is discouraging though that I tend to think of myself as a rational person and see neither party as a viable option.

/long time lurker in the Pol tab
//first time poster here
///be gentle
 
6 days ago  
The Former in the dell
The Former in the dell
Oh no, her quiet No
The Former in the dell
 
6 days ago  

MisterMook: I don't understand why people think that the GOP has a Donald Trump problem. Donald is only saying the quiet thing out loud that they've all been muttering and fermenting like a wound for decades. They courted this precise element, now they're upset that they're prisoners of the very things they claimed to be for, by the man too stupid to STFU and not make the problem they created worse.


while i agree that this element has always existed w in the republican party it didnt used to be its driver and defining attribute. they used to be smarter. they used to be about business and capitalism and the racism was sorta incidental. republicans used to also be pro immigration and not so overtly xenophobic.

the republicans also used to be status quo with regards to international relations, not befriend the russians and the other dictators, and not take a nationalist stance. indeed, "conservative" by its definition was about conserving allienacs, status quo, containment blah blah... republican FP used to be generally ok, Nixon and Dubya notwithstanding.

so yeah the lunatics have taken over the asylum and they DO have a freakin Trump problem.
 
6 days ago  

lincoln65: Kind of a dumb premise. Less that the GOP needs to rid itself of a particular person and more that they need to do away with a toxic way of thinking.

Like who cares about Donnie when you have psychos like Cruz or Rand Paul or MTG in the wings.
And after them, a hundred more in state houses across the country. And behind them a populace of slobbering, blind rabble ready to be led head first into poutrage.

I'd say the best thing for everyone would be for the GOP to abandon their fascist, anti-science, blind rage, but, that's antithetical to the party. The best thing for people like Mrs Comstock would be to disavow the party and it's fascist position, and call for democratic protections at all levels of government.


How many of these GOPers like Liz Cheney want to get rid of Trump but keep everything that allowed him to get power so easily.

You don't get to keep rigged voting systems that disenfranchise all those who will vote against trump AND get rid of him.
 
6 days ago  
She was my representative. She always voted in lockstep with Trump and completely ignored her constituents. If she were still in the House, she would absolutely be voting with the Rs and probably saying that Trump actually won the election.
 
6 days ago  

shastacola: Those former elected republicans sure are courageous.


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Bravery and Republicanism don't usually mesh. That's why the entire party decided to worship a draft-dodging dimwit.
 
6 days ago  

MisterMook: I don't understand why people think that the GOP has a Donald Trump problem. Donald is only saying the quiet thing out loud that they've all been muttering and fermenting like a wound for decades. They courted this precise element, now they're upset that they're prisoners of the very things they claimed to be for, by the man too stupid to STFU and not make the problem they created worse.


Donnie is the magic sword that is actually a demon that eats your soul bit by bit.  They've got nothing left.
 
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