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2021-06-09 4:24:46 PM  
The Orange Box remains the greatest deal in video gaming history.

If you hadn't played those games even now, 14 years later, it would be an amazing deal at full price.
 
2021-06-09 4:29:50 PM  

Rev.K: The Orange Box remains the greatest deal in video gaming history.

If you hadn't played those games even now, 14 years later, it would be an amazing deal at full price.


Agreed. Every human should play portal.
2 Christmases ago I introduced Portal to my young niece who, up until that point, had never played videogames. She now has a better PC than me that she built herself. She just finished all 3 witcher games in succession (280 hours).
 
2021-06-09 4:32:09 PM  

theToadMan: Agreed. Every human should play portal.
2 Christmases ago I introduced Portal to my young niece who, up until that point, had never played videogames. She now has a better PC than me that she built herself. She just finished all 3 witcher games in succession (280 hours).


My kids love Portal.

My older daughter loves Portal Bridge Constructor.
 
2021-06-09 4:44:47 PM  
Interesting that the side quests on Assassin Creed were last minute as that was the first game I ever played all the side missions.

Up until then I did the story and struggled more and more towards the end because I didn't have all the XP of doing the side quests.
 
2021-06-09 4:49:40 PM  
I was all set to 'meh' but there are some pretty good games on that list.  Orange box was amazing, and I'd probably still pay full price for the metroid series to be ported to Switch.  A few franchise starters as well: Crysis, System Shock 3 BioShock, Witcher.

It's kinda hard to believe Minecraft wasn't even released for another 2 years.
 
2021-06-09 5:41:57 PM  

Driedsponge: I was all set to 'meh' but there are some pretty good games on that list.  Orange box was amazing, and I'd probably still pay full price for the metroid series to be ported to Switch.  A few franchise starters as well: Crysis, System Shock 3 BioShock, Witcher.

It's kinda hard to believe Minecraft wasn't even released for another 2 years.


They were gonna list Crysis, but they still couldn't get it to run smoothly on their systems
 
2021-06-09 5:50:47 PM  
Yeah but late 96, and most of us didn't get them till 97 had the N64.

I'd say a decade ago the N64 broke the barriers more than that.
 
2021-06-09 5:55:42 PM  
If we're going by the "changed video games forever" metric, we can't discount Super Paper Mario effectively killing the RPG style of Paper Mario and dooming the creators to an eternity of whining fans. Good list otherwise.
 
2021-06-09 6:23:14 PM  
THE ORANGE BOX (Zero Punctuation)
Youtube _dlEm_2ke8k


The Orange Box was the first and I think last game that Yatzee ever gave amazingly high praise.
 
2021-06-09 7:26:18 PM  

Driedsponge: I was all set to 'meh' but there are some pretty good games on that list.  Orange box was amazing, and I'd probably still pay full price for the metroid series to be ported to Switch.  A few franchise starters as well: Crysis, System Shock 3 BioShock, Witcher.

It's kinda hard to believe Minecraft wasn't even released for another 2 years.


The Mario ports were cheap and needed more love and attention.

The Mass Effect port was cheap and needed more love and attention.

I'd throw money at the screen for Metroid on switch, regardless of how little effort they put into it
 
2021-06-09 7:30:37 PM  
Puzzle Quest was a fantastic game. I put so many hours into it.
 
2021-06-09 7:52:16 PM  

Reverend J: [YouTube video: THE ORANGE BOX (Zero Punctuation)]

The Orange Box was the first and I think last game that Yatzee ever gave amazingly high praise.


Yahtzee loved Doom (2016).

Doom (Zero Punctuation)
Youtube HQGxC8HKCD4


Still had some nitpicks, but yea, Portal is the only game he seems to consider "perfect".
 
2021-06-09 8:21:30 PM  

Axeofjudgement: Yeah but late 96, and most of us didn't get them till 97 had the N64.

I'd say a decade ago the N64 broke the barriers more than that.


I'd put my money on 1996 as well. Quake, Time Raider, and Duke Nukem 3D on the PC, and Mario 64, Crash Bandicoot, and Nights on consoles. It was also the last year that saw any real DOS support, as by the end of the year and into 1997 almost everything was Windows 95 only.
 
2021-06-09 8:22:35 PM  
Wow, the list is right it was a great year for games. I dunno about 'change everything' but had some really amazing titles. It's also kind of crazy that Bioshock and Mass Effect are essentially 14 years old now. 

Rev.K: The Orange Box remains the greatest deal in video gaming history.

If you hadn't played those games even now, 14 years later, it would be an amazing deal at full price.


My Dad, to this day, plays HL2 or Portal/Portal 2 at least once a year. He was very happy when the Orange Box came out. By then I had all of the titles individually, and 2007 may have been peak TF2 time for me. Valve has made some incredible software over the years.
 
2021-06-09 8:36:45 PM  
I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.
 
2021-06-09 8:43:06 PM  

theToadMan: Rev.K: The Orange Box remains the greatest deal in video gaming history.

If you hadn't played those games even now, 14 years later, it would be an amazing deal at full price.

Agreed. Every human should play portal.
2 Christmases ago I introduced Portal to my young niece who, up until that point, had never played videogames. She now has a better PC than me that she built herself. She just finished all 3 witcher games in succession (280 hours).


Except us humans with hardcore spacial relationship issues.  Portal is a choice slice of hell for me.  Which is sad, 'cause I know it's a cool game.  But for me, I may as well be trying to randomly guess at the meaning of Finno-Urgaic phraseology - I'd have better luck than trying to figure out complicated spacial puzzles.
 
2021-06-09 8:44:03 PM  

Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.


You'll get no flack from me.  The loss of Looking Glass was a farking crime.
 
2021-06-09 8:58:53 PM  
Fallout 1 Intro HD
Youtube hG3uBgQmTnk


/hmmm, yeah
//still need my power or combat armor
///checked your rad count lately?
////fook it, 4!!
 
2021-06-09 9:55:17 PM  

Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.


Umm. Ocarina of Time was '98. You're not going to sit here and tell me Thief was better than Ocarina of Time. I just won't stand for it.
 
2021-06-09 10:10:49 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: theToadMan: Rev.K: The Orange Box remains the greatest deal in video gaming history.

If you hadn't played those games even now, 14 years later, it would be an amazing deal at full price.

Agreed. Every human should play portal.
2 Christmases ago I introduced Portal to my young niece who, up until that point, had never played videogames. She now has a better PC than me that she built herself. She just finished all 3 witcher games in succession (280 hours).

Except us humans with hardcore spacial relationship issues.  Portal is a choice slice of hell for me.  Which is sad, 'cause I know it's a cool game.  But for me, I may as well be trying to randomly guess at the meaning of Finno-Urgaic phraseology - I'd have better luck than trying to figure out complicated spacial puzzles.


Toss "people who get motion sick" in that pile too. First person anything is a non-starter, which sucks. I tried Goat Simulator a few weeks ago and had to quit 30 minutes in because even in 3rd person the movement made me dizzy.
 
2021-06-09 10:15:32 PM  
I thought I had figured out the big twist in bioshocks story (that atlas was fontaine) ahead of time, so when the game revealed the real twist, I was absolutely blown away. That moment is absolutely seared into my memory, and I vividly remember shouting SONUVAbiatch! when the twist was revealed because I woke up my friend who had fallen asleep on the couch behind me watching me play.

/still have my orange box somewhere
 
2021-06-09 11:23:08 PM  
I want to say city of heroes fits this timeline. It died and yet fans have resurrected it in Homecoming.
 
2021-06-09 11:28:09 PM  
Gonna do some reminiscing.


Reminiscing
Youtube CwEaRudVW3s


Thanks, I'm good now.
 
2021-06-09 11:34:45 PM  
Assassin's Creed was incredible when it first came out. The stealth aspects combined with the sandbox parkour were like nothing my friends and I had ever seen. We would spend hours just exploring, climbing and killing. I'm currently playing Valhalla, and while it's enjoyable, it feels too big, and with too much shiat to do. I don't like that the series has pretty much thrown the assassin part out the window, because I always liked the stealth and needing to be creative in order to stay hidden and kill my target.

Modern Warfare was also great for both the story as well as multiplayer. I still love playing the sniper mission in Pripyat.

Mass Effect was magical to me. It was a masterpiece of creativity and design, and it was a crazy notion that my choices actually mattered. I mean, I would later learn that they really didn't, but it was cool to see that my choices could play out, and that trivial things in ME1 could affect ME3.
 
2021-06-09 11:36:21 PM  
all these early ps3 games ran like shiat and weren't fun to play
 
2021-06-10 1:19:26 AM  

Chemlight Battery: Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.

Umm. Ocarina of Time was '98. You're not going to sit here and tell me Thief was better than Ocarina of Time. I just won't stand for it.


I'll straight up bash his head with a rock if you'll hold him down for me
 
2021-06-10 2:24:01 AM  

theToadMan: Rev.K: The Orange Box remains the greatest deal in video gaming history.

If you hadn't played those games even now, 14 years later, it would be an amazing deal at full price.

Agreed. Every human should play portal.
2 Christmases ago I introduced Portal to my young niece who, up until that point, had never played videogames. She now has a better PC than me that she built herself. She just finished all 3 witcher games in succession (280 hours).


My kid also loves both Portal games, and they got him interested in learning to make games, on both the PC, and via Dreams on PS.
 
2021-06-10 2:33:23 AM  

Reverend J: [YouTube video: THE ORANGE BOX (Zero Punctuation)]

The Orange Box was the first and I think last game that Yatzee ever gave amazingly high praise.


He's done a few others. Silent Hill 2 and Subnautica are two I know of off the top of my head.
 
2021-06-10 2:34:53 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Reverend J: [YouTube video: THE ORANGE BOX (Zero Punctuation)]

The Orange Box was the first and I think last game that Yatzee ever gave amazingly high praise.

He's done a few others. Silent Hill 2 and Subnautica are two I know of off the top of my head.


Oh, and although it took him a while, he came around on Dark Souls and related games.
 
2021-06-10 2:36:38 AM  

Chemlight Battery: Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.

Umm. Ocarina of Time was '98. You're not going to sit here and tell me Thief was better than Ocarina of Time. I just won't stand for it.


Thief was better than OoT.
 
2021-06-10 6:03:07 AM  

Reverend J: [YouTube video: THE ORANGE BOX (Zero Punctuation)]

The Orange Box was the first and I think last game that Yatzee ever gave amazingly high praise.


I dunno, i can list a few. Spec Ops The Line, Darksouls (admittedly the high praise evolved over time during the year he reviewed it), Subnautica, Shadow of Mordor, Return of the Obra Din (sp?). Probably a few more that i'm forgetting right about now.
 
2021-06-10 6:08:17 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Reverend J: [YouTube video: THE ORANGE BOX (Zero Punctuation)]

The Orange Box was the first and I think last game that Yatzee ever gave amazingly high praise.

Yahtzee loved Doom (2016).

[YouTube video: Doom (Zero Punctuation)]

Still had some nitpicks, but yea, Portal is the only game he seems to consider "perfect".


Yeah, fair enough on the Perfect point.
 
2021-06-10 6:31:37 AM  

Reverend J: [Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/_dlEm_2k​e8k]

The Orange Box was the first and I think last game that Yatzee ever gave amazingly high praise.


Sometimes its just right to listen to Yahtzee not like popular games though, or get angry at something he thought he should. I mentioned Thief, which he loved -- but the reboot he ripped apart viciously with more venom than usual. (I still haven't gotten around to the game, but I bought it on Steam sale for $5 or so last summer).

While I greatly disagree with the grade, his Fallout New Vegas review is effing prose (and point for point what you experience, just hilariously narrated).
 
2021-06-10 6:47:12 AM  
Meant to attach.

FALLOUT: NEW VEGAS (Zero Punctuation)
Youtube 7XsACXSVhWY
 
2021-06-10 9:21:56 AM  

Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.


I liked the first few levels of Thief but then it went into weird mystical shiat and all I wanted was a game where I snuck around and stole shiat.
 
2021-06-10 9:56:48 AM  

SuperChuck: I liked the first few levels of Thief but then it went into weird mystical shiat and all I wanted was a game where I snuck around and stole shiat.


That's how I feel about Assassin's Creed every time I'm yanked out of Renaissance Italy or Ancient Egypt and forced to putter around an office environment instead.

Just put me back aboard my pirate ship, Ubisoft, I don't want to listen to any mystical nonsense from a long dead alien species.
 
2021-06-10 10:37:17 AM  
Still waiting on being able to purchase a PS5 at MSRP.  I thought for sure I would have one by March, at the latest.
 
2021-06-10 10:55:27 AM  

Reverend J: [YouTube video: THE ORANGE BOX (Zero Punctuation)]

The Orange Box was the first and I think last game that Yatzee ever gave amazingly high praise.


Yahtzee...praising...a game...?

Sorry, I understand those words individually, but together they make no sense.
 
2021-06-10 10:58:20 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: SuperChuck: I liked the first few levels of Thief but then it went into weird mystical shiat and all I wanted was a game where I snuck around and stole shiat.

That's how I feel about Assassin's Creed every time I'm yanked out of Renaissance Italy or Ancient Egypt and forced to putter around an office environment instead.

Just put me back aboard my pirate ship, Ubisoft, I don't want to listen to any mystical nonsense from a long dead alien species.


That really annoyed me with the Egypt and Greece versions. Fighting a cyclops, minotaur and Medusa just seemed wacky compared to the relative serious tones of the initial storylines.

The minotaur island was pretty funny though, since I originally thought it was just going to be dealing with the guy in the bull mask.
 
2021-06-10 12:15:13 PM  
One of my best years was when Planescape Torment released.  It's the only US RPG I've seen so far with interesting characters whose classes took a back seat to their character.
 
2021-06-10 1:54:56 PM  

SuperChuck: Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.

I liked the first few levels of Thief but then it went into weird mystical shiat and all I wanted was a game where I snuck around and stole shiat.


Thief 2: The Metal Age answered that nitpick very well. Much less monsters and undead, but some medieval steampunk cameras and robots to deal with.
 
2021-06-10 5:57:31 PM  

Practical_Draconian: SuperChuck: Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.

I liked the first few levels of Thief but then it went into weird mystical shiat and all I wanted was a game where I snuck around and stole shiat.

Thief 2: The Metal Age answered that nitpick very well. Much less monsters and undead, but some medieval steampunk cameras and robots to deal with.


Yep - always wondered what kind of shiny we'd have seen if that hadn't been rushed out the door.  Make no mistake, it was good even in it's rushed state - but I'd have loved to see what they really had planned.  Whole series won me over in the first game when I realized I could indeed blackjack an entire temple full of Hammerite guards, throw them in a huge puppy pile on and around their altar, and pull the alarm switch just as I left.

/and promptly lost me with everything after 2
//hey, I'm going to the bear pits tomorrow - you want to come with?
///the bears have got these new muzzles with underslung cheek spikes.
////last time I was there, there was a real eye-gouging!
 
2021-06-10 6:45:31 PM  

SuperChuck: Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.

I liked the first few levels of Thief but then it went into weird mystical shiat and all I wanted was a game where I snuck around and stole shiat.


THIS. 

I don't think Thief was as good as a lot of people think because it got away from the idea of being, ya know...a Thief.
 
2021-06-10 7:52:05 PM  

AntonChigger: I thought I had figured out the big twist in bioshocks story (that atlas was fontaine) ahead of time, so when the game revealed the real twist, I was absolutely blown away. That moment is absolutely seared into my memory, and I vividly remember shouting SONUVAbiatch! when the twist was revealed because I woke up my friend who had fallen asleep on the couch behind me watching me play.

/still have my orange box somewhere


would you kindly...
 
2021-06-10 7:56:23 PM  

phimuskapsi: SuperChuck: Practical_Draconian: I get a lot of flak, but Thief: The Dark Project was the best game of another major gaming year, 1998, beating out Half-Life and StarCraft.

First true "ghosting" stealth game, rather than just an option to get through a level. Plus Garrett and his universe was pretty damn memorable.

I liked the first few levels of Thief but then it went into weird mystical shiat and all I wanted was a game where I snuck around and stole shiat.

THIS. 

I don't think Thief was as good as a lot of people think because it got away from the idea of being, ya know...a Thief.


That was sort of the whole point of the game, though.  You're just a cat burglar.  You aren't a badass, you aren't Conan, you aren't even pretty (Garret was a pretty ugly dude what little they showed outside the hood.)  You sneak around and steal shiat, and now stuff''s going down that's WAY the hell outside of your skillset - holy shiat - all you can do is tread water as well as you know how and hope you can stay up till the undertow stops.  That to me was part of the genius of the plot - sure you know alleys and creeping around yoinking necklaces, supernatural pissing contests WTF I'm just a second story guy, c'mon Jesus leave me alone you farking lunatics I didn't sign up for this!

See also the entire parallel line of Keeper interactions and flashbacks - which are that absolutely farking personified.  You're some poor son of a biatch that's been picked to be the linchpin the world turns on, and the hell if you're down with that and you won't put up with being used quietly godsdamnit.

/tell my 'friends' that I don't need their secret book, or their glyph warnings, or their messengers.
//tell them I'm through. Tell them it's over,
///tell them Garret is DONE.
////one of the best outros ever done in a video game, because it says it all - I'll fight people on that
 
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