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(Pro Football Talk)   Its not news, it's just a billionaire demanding handouts for a stadium   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line
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732 clicks; posted to Sports » on 09 Jun 2021 at 8:29 PM (5 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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6 days ago  
fark you
fark your business plan
fark your inevitable betrayal

Just don't start.
 
6 days ago  
I wonder is he willing to share the profits 1/3rd 1/3rd 1/3rd
 
6 days ago  
"There is no way in hell I would build a domed stadium in Charlotte, especially after COVID," Tepper said.

Yeah, look at all those open-air stadiums that ran at full capacity throughout the pandemic.
 
6 days ago  
What do you think would happen if the city built a stadium. And owned it. Owned the concessions, the ticket sales etc and took the major share of all the stadium revenue.

The team would just be a tenant.
 
5 days ago  
Welfare queen
 
5 days ago  
Congratulations to the new London Panthers!
 
5 days ago  
I thought this was Stu Sternberg of the Rays

Douche billionaire acts like douche, news at 11
 
5 days ago  
Games should be for everyone to play. pro athletes are cool but it's not so great that everyone else is sitting on their buts watching.

/ so promote intramural sports over pro once in a while rich dude with your rich dude problems.
 
5 days ago  
BoA is a perfectly fine stadium.  It needs a few tweaks, but a whole new stadium is absurd.
 
5 days ago  
You just know that guy rentals about socialism all the goddamn time.
 
5 days ago  
RAILS dammit.
 
5 days ago  
So there is like zero chance that this guy has paid taxes in the last 5 years right?
 
5 days ago  

Gubbo: I wonder is he willing to share the profits 1/3rd 1/3rd 1/3rd


That would be fantastic. If you live in the county, you'd probably get a couple hundred bucks a year, nothing to sneeze at.  And you know what? tons of people would probably use that to get a ticket to a game.
 
5 days ago  
The people of Charlotte should be grateful that a person of his means graces the community with his presence.  Being rich enough to own a football is proof of the favor of God and the people should take joy in coming to his benevolent service.  If you don't have this feeling in the very center of your heart you're an America-hating communist and should move to China right now.
 
5 days ago  
"Everyone welcome your St. Louis Panthers" for about 10 years, then they'll go back to Carolina or some other new population hot spot when the city won't pay a bunch of money for new digs.

/I'd say maybe OKC
//maybe we can keep a usfl team
/// three because you have to
 
5 days ago  
I'd bet if the Chargers had made it to a superbowl in the last 25 years, we'd have built them a new stadium in San Diego. At least the Padres put together a winning team for a year.
 
5 days ago  
Say what you want about LA, but at least they have the stones to say FU to these owners who want the city/ community to pay for their billion dollar stadiums.
/ never liked the Rams
// indifferent to the Chargers
/// prefer college football
 
5 days ago  

Gubbo: I wonder is he willing to share the profits 1/3rd 1/3rd 1/3rd


Yep. In addition, the county (or whatever tax base pays for it) should get equity. He moves, he has to buy their share of the name, logo, colors, and whatever.

The community "leaders" will give it all away for nothing of course.
 
5 days ago  

Gubbo: What do you think would happen if the city built a stadium. And owned it. Owned the concessions, the ticket sales etc and took the major share of all the stadium revenue.

The team would just be a tenant.


I see you're familiar with the Chicago Bears and Soldier Field.
 
5 days ago  
at least we pay them millions for their teams to engage in displays of patriotism
 
5 days ago  
"At some point that building will fall down," Tepper said of the team's current stadium, which opened in 1996.

I hate this nonsense.  Are we really using bullshiat building standards these days, relative to Fenway, Yankee Stadium, etc?  Did someone approve the building of a stadium that is a safety hazard after just 25 years?  Fark off with this nonsense.

Under no circumstances should Charlotte give this asshole any money.
 
5 days ago  
I'm just glad that when Dan Rooney died this guy didn't get a majority stake in the Steelers. At one time he owned 5% and there was a real chance he'd become the controlling owner.
 
5 days ago  
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5 days ago  

Naido: "At some point that building will fall down," Tepper said of the team's current stadium, which opened in 1996.

I hate this nonsense.  Are we really using bullshiat building standards these days, relative to Fenway, Yankee Stadium, etc?  Did someone approve the building of a stadium that is a safety hazard after just 25 years?  Fark off with this nonsense.

Under no circumstances should Charlotte give this asshole any money.


Exactly. Just because four billion dollar stadiums exist doesn't mean ANYONE needs a billion dollar stadium. If a Panthers fan needs those amenities to go to a game, they should just go up to their mega-mansion on Lake Norman and watch it with friends on a house-sized screen.

\and remember, two of those are shared
 
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5 days ago  

Enigmamf: I'd bet if the Chargers had made it to a superbowl in the last 25 years, we'd have built them a new stadium in San Diego. At least the Padres put together a winning team for a year.


Spanos claiming squatters rights in LA. What a cheap dickhead.
 
5 days ago  

Outshined_One: Gubbo: What do you think would happen if the city built a stadium. And owned it. Owned the concessions, the ticket sales etc and took the major share of all the stadium revenue.

The team would just be a tenant.

I see you're familiar with the Chicago Bears and Soldier Field.


Except ticket sales and most of the concession revenue go to the team, they pay the city a flat fee for use of the stadium. And the reason this doesn't bother one of the most valuable teams (in terms of dollar value) in the league is that stadium revenue? It's a joke compared to the TV revenue. And that's the real issue.

Fans have no vote because their money means basically nothing in the bottom line. What pays the bills AND rakes the dough is the TV contracts. ALL the stadium income is at least an order of magnitude less money for the team.

But you have to have a place to play, and this guy is saying "fark if I put that money up myself. You buy me a shiny new toy or I'm leaving." I hope Charlotte is smart enough to tell this guy to fark right off, and I'm deeply afraid that they're not.

As to the odd case of Soldier Field, I know the Bears won't try the "build us a stadium or we'll move" because the Cubs tried that and were told to get their ass out, oh, by the way, good luck getting anybody to show up because they ain't going for the team. (This was when Zell Miller owned the team.) The Ricketts, while being shiatty people overall, did rebuild Wrigley on their own dime*. The Suburbs aren't likely to try because everybody remembers all the money Bridgeview, IL was going to rake when they built a stadium for the Chicago Fire. And by rake, we mean "didn't make a goddamn dime and cost them a ton of money to this day."

And right now, if someone said "Give us a stadium or the Bears are leaving" we'd be "Hurry up and get that trash fire the fark out of town. We heard St. Louis likes abuse!" Hint: St. Louis isn't going to play that game again, not for a long time.

Of course, the oddest case is Green Bay, a case so odd that the NFL has literally rewritten ownership rules to prevent it from happening again because if other cities locked down their teams the way Green Bay has, they wouldn't be able to do this "give me $5B in stadium or leave" bullshiat. I mean, fark the Packers, of course, but there a reason a tiny nowhere town in Wisconsin has one of the most successful franchises in the NFL, and that's because the design of the team prevents it from being moved, so while the fan base isn't huge, it is intensely loyal and supportive.

* Not a fan of everything they did, but the rebuild was respectful to what Wrigley is and was, and the stadium looks vastly better than it has in, well, my lifetime. While I still don't like the video screens they're at least used well and during play kept within the "theme" of Wrigley. (They play commercials during inning breaks because of course they do.)
 
5 days ago  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: Outshined_One: Gubbo: What do you think would happen if the city built a stadium. And owned it. Owned the concessions, the ticket sales etc and took the major share of all the stadium revenue.

The team would just be a tenant.

I see you're familiar with the Chicago Bears and Soldier Field.

Except ticket sales and most of the concession revenue go to the team, they pay the city a flat fee for use of the stadium. And the reason this doesn't bother one of the most valuable teams (in terms of dollar value) in the league is that stadium revenue? It's a joke compared to the TV revenue. And that's the real issue.

Fans have no vote because their money means basically nothing in the bottom line. What pays the bills AND rakes the dough is the TV contracts. ALL the stadium income is at least an order of magnitude less money for the team.

But you have to have a place to play, and this guy is saying "fark if I put that money up myself. You buy me a shiny new toy or I'm leaving." I hope Charlotte is smart enough to tell this guy to fark right off, and I'm deeply afraid that they're not.

As to the odd case of Soldier Field, I know the Bears won't try the "build us a stadium or we'll move" because the Cubs tried that and were told to get their ass out, oh, by the way, good luck getting anybody to show up because they ain't going for the team. (This was when Zell Miller owned the team.) The Ricketts, while being shiatty people overall, did rebuild Wrigley on their own dime*. The Suburbs aren't likely to try because everybody remembers all the money Bridgeview, IL was going to rake when they built a stadium for the Chicago Fire. And by rake, we mean "didn't make a goddamn dime and cost them a ton of money to this day."

And right now, if someone said "Give us a stadium or the Bears are leaving" we'd be "Hurry up and get that trash fire the fark out of town. We heard St. Louis likes abuse!" Hint: St. Louis isn't going to play that game again, not for a long time.

Of course, the oddest case is Green Bay, a case so odd that the NFL has literally rewritten ownership rules to prevent it from happening again because if other cities locked down their teams the way Green Bay has, they wouldn't be able to do this "give me $5B in stadium or leave" bullshiat. I mean, fark the Packers, of course, but there a reason a tiny nowhere town in Wisconsin has one of the most successful franchises in the NFL, and that's because the design of the team prevents it from being moved, so while the fan base isn't huge, it is intensely loyal and supportive.

* Not a fan of everything they did, but the rebuild was respectful to what Wrigley is and was, and the stadium looks vastly better than it has in, well, my lifetime. While I still don't like the video screens they're at least used well and during play kept within the "theme" of Wrigley. (They play commercials during inning breaks because of course they do.)


The Packers and city of GB also have a long history of economic cooperation, and given the small size of GB as you have mentioned, home games have a tremendous economic benefit to individuals and businesses.

The structure of the Titletown stadium district and authority also provides additional ongoing revenue to the city of GB.

It's a really cool and unique match, and one that likey couldn't happen anywhere else of you tried to set it up today.
 
5 days ago  

mattgsx: It's a really cool and unique match, and one that likey couldn't happen anywhere else of you tried to set it up today.



The best description I have of Green Bay is that on one side of Lombardi Avenue - a six lane street leading to a I-shiat-you-not 10 lane highway - is that on one side you have the Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field, capacity 81,441, and on the other, you have houses. Quite modest houses, some with white picket fences.

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5 days ago  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: mattgsx: It's a really cool and unique match, and one that likey couldn't happen anywhere else of you tried to set it up today.


The best description I have of Green Bay is that on one side of Lombardi Avenue - a six lane street leading to a I-shiat-you-not 10 lane highway - is that on one side you have the Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field, capacity 81,441, and on the other, you have houses. Quite modest houses, some with white picket fences.

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There's a lot to be said for old European cities and stadiums. You're just wandering through residential neighborhoods and suddenly there's a 50,000 seat stadium around the corner
 
5 days ago  

I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: mattgsx: It's a really cool and unique match, and one that likey couldn't happen anywhere else of you tried to set it up today.


The best description I have of Green Bay is that on one side of Lombardi Avenue - a six lane street leading to a I-shiat-you-not 10 lane highway - is that on one side you have the Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field, capacity 81,441, and on the other, you have houses. Quite modest houses, some with white picket fences.

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That is a really cool picture. I'm also amazed by all the houses along the Oneida Nation Gate side (if you're coming in through the game day lot). The houses go right up to the stadium and lot. Every yard is filled with cars except for the ones that have the shared fence w the stadium, and at those ones some people just lay plywood on their yard because underneath is just sloppy mud from all the parties every Sunday.

Show up on a Sunday and you can easily eat and drink for free all day hopping between yard and lot parties without going in the stadium, or just carry your own cooler - as long as you're not being a dick the police don't really care on game day.
 
5 days ago  

Gubbo: I hereby demand that I be given a Fark account: mattgsx: It's a really cool and unique match, and one that likey couldn't happen anywhere else of you tried to set it up today.


The best description I have of Green Bay is that on one side of Lombardi Avenue - a six lane street leading to a I-shiat-you-not 10 lane highway - is that on one side you have the Frozen Tundra of Lambeau Field, capacity 81,441, and on the other, you have houses. Quite modest houses, some with white picket fences.

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There's a lot to be said for old European cities and stadiums. You're just wandering through residential neighborhoods and suddenly there's a 50,000 seat stadium around the corner


That's the Wrigley Field experience in a nutshell. Even before they built the office building and hotel, you could walk surprisingly close to the ballpark before you'd see it.
 
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