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2021-06-09 1:30:11 PM  
It's EXACTLY why you get one -- fast-depreciating nouveau riche cars like that either have a flawless history (and a price to match) or a really scary one.

I remember in James May's "Cars of the People" (excellent show) he talked about Rolls Royce's downfall in the UK in the 80s as the models from the 60s/70s got so cheap, they became a cheap, ironically countercultural status symbol for a lot of people. And you know how fastidious punk rockers are about car maintenance, that's the oldest stereotype in the book.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2021-06-09 1:31:00 PM  
It was sold at a Missouri auction last year for $48,500. Estimated repair costs were a whopping $162,818. Makes you wonder who thought it was worth it to repair.

Somebody who needed to launder money? Who owed a favor to a body shop?
 
2021-06-09 1:36:27 PM  
Carfox. Modmins be messin wit da headline.
 
2021-06-09 1:37:01 PM  
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yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.
 
2021-06-09 1:43:56 PM  

logieal: Carfox. Modmins be messin wit da headline.


It's Carfax. Carfox is their mascot.
 
2021-06-09 1:44:02 PM  

steklo: [Fark user image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.


And take up 4 parking spaces too.
 
2021-06-09 1:44:41 PM  

steklo: [Fark user image image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.


And also park it poorly so everyone will notice it when they try to access one of the four spots you're taking up.
 
2021-06-09 1:45:31 PM  
I wouldn't buy ditch weed off a guy from Long Island City, much less a used Rolls. I'd check for a dead body in the trunk before driving it off for the lot.
 
2021-06-09 1:46:55 PM  
Knew a guy at our San Antonio office back in the 90s.

He had a side gig driving the Zamboni for the minor league hockey team.  And he'd bought an old Rolls in decent shape from a retired oilman.

He had the "My other car is a Rolls Royce" bumper sticker on the Zamboni, and the "My other car is a Zamboni" bumper sticker on the Rolls.

/csb
 
2021-06-09 1:50:57 PM  
Possibly another Samcrac project car for which he'll need to borrow money from his stepmom.
 
2021-06-09 1:51:32 PM  

Fireproof: logieal: Carfox. Modmins be messin wit da headline.

It's Carfax. Carfox is their mascot.


That's the joke.
 
2021-06-09 1:58:36 PM  
I've had horrible luck with carfax. As long as a car isn't titled as salvage, it can be wrecked then sold for repair and put back on a dealer's lot with a clean carfax report. I bought a Chrysler years ago. My first clue was the emblem in the trunk was upside down. It made tons of road noise and the windows whistles on the highway. Repair guy told me the frame wasn't straight. That's when I found out carfax is worthless. Now when I'm shopping used cars (I have 4 teens) I look closely. It's easy to tell because the body shops work volume and are sloppy. Overspray on rubber, new exhaust on a 30,000 mile vehicle, seams that don't line up, no door dings or minor scratches on doors, brand new glass, etc. And they'll still waive the carfax in your face and tell you it's ever been wrecked.  Soapbox over
 
2021-06-09 1:59:27 PM  
I was at the Giant supermarket in North Potomac, MD back in 2003. A nice summer day. I hear laughing and loud music. So I turned my head.

behind me is a brand new Rolls Royce convertible filled with teenagers having a good time.

Now, I know no ordinary teen can afford one of those so I suspected the parents were rich...I mean, how pathetic is it to show off a Rolls in the parking lot of a supermarket?
 
2021-06-09 2:01:25 PM  

steklo: [Fark user image image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.


I try to park next to those people who take up multiple spaces even if it means a walk. I'm also an asshole
 
2021-06-09 2:07:42 PM  

creckert: I try to park next to those people who take up multiple spaces even if it means a walk. I'm also an asshole


Nah, you're not an asshole.

In my younger days I would've done that too. Now when I see it, I wish for a big wind that takes a shopping cart and slams it into the driver's side door....
 
2021-06-09 2:07:58 PM  

steklo: [Fark user image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.


The kind of people that buy that level of used luxury car? Oh helllllllllllllll yes.
 
2021-06-09 2:09:20 PM  
I once saw a Rolls with a vanity plate that read, "NoPoupon."

I normally dislike vanity plates, but that one is an exception. Well done.
 
2021-06-09 2:22:45 PM  

NewportBarGuy: The kind of people that buy that level of used luxury car? Oh helllllllllllllll yes.


I am very lower middle class. It's just the way it is. But I dream of owning a Rolls Royce. My friend has one, car looks great, rides wonderful but as mentioned a pain in the ass for parts, service, wondering what some idiot is going to do with the car in a parking lot...(vandalism) and as much as it is a status symbol, I want the car for the luxury...it's the name. Rolls Royce. At one time, it meant owning a car that was built by hand by people who cared.

Now? Its nothing more then a very expensive BMW.

In my life time, I've owned numerous cars and let me tell you all cars suffer from Entropy.

all cars.
 
2021-06-09 2:23:35 PM  

FrancoFile: Knew a guy at our San Antonio office back in the 90s.

He had a side gig driving the Zamboni for the minor league hockey team.  And he'd bought an old Rolls in decent shape from a retired oilman.

He had the "My other car is a Rolls Royce" bumper sticker on the Zamboni, and the "My other car is a Zamboni" bumper sticker on the Rolls.

/csb


"He must have this Zamboni job so he cab afford that Rolls."
"Dayumm, Zamboni must make bank!"
 
2021-06-09 2:29:50 PM  
Makes You Wonder Who The Hell Owned This Thing And What Were They Up To?

These guys are looking for it:

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2021-06-09 2:31:06 PM  
I drove a Grey Ghost several times.  A wealthy family I knew had one.

The car was not very old but it was a horror show to drive. It was so expensive to fix -- and it always needed something -- that it sat prominently in front of their prominent home but hardly ever went anywhere, except to fancy dress events.  The family drove other pedestrian cars.
 
2021-06-09 2:36:27 PM  
Rolls Canardly.

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2021-06-09 2:36:40 PM  

Hey Nurse!: I've had horrible luck with carfax. As long as a car isn't titled as salvage, it can be wrecked then sold for repair and put back on a dealer's lot with a clean carfax report. I bought a Chrysler years ago. My first clue was the emblem in the trunk was upside down. It made tons of road noise and the windows whistles on the highway. Repair guy told me the frame wasn't straight. That's when I found out carfax is worthless. Now when I'm shopping used cars (I have 4 teens) I look closely. It's easy to tell because the body shops work volume and are sloppy. Overspray on rubber, new exhaust on a 30,000 mile vehicle, seams that don't line up, no door dings or minor scratches on doors, brand new glass, etc. And they'll still waive the carfax in your face and tell you it's ever been wrecked.  Soapbox over


For what it is worth I try to purchase kinda rarer classic cars I feel almost all new cars tend to look the same, so I use BAT* I think I got 3  carfax reports for near $100,  but even a farked up carfax  beats hands down heading to another state to see the car *in person.  Nothing sux more than wasting a day or two on the easy things that can be spotted.

/bring a trailer dot com is a good way to find experts on that particular type of car. We have our latest (S2000) from a collector itś  almost 20 year old and style has some styling in it. Just have to be willing to pay to have it vetted properly. Oh and classic tags.
 
2021-06-09 2:40:53 PM  

Hey Nurse!: I've had horrible luck with carfax. As long as a car isn't titled as salvage, it can be wrecked then sold for repair and put back on a dealer's lot with a clean carfax report. I bought a Chrysler years ago. My first clue was the emblem in the trunk was upside down. It made tons of road noise and the windows whistles on the highway. Repair guy told me the frame wasn't straight. That's when I found out carfax is worthless. Now when I'm shopping used cars (I have 4 teens) I look closely. It's easy to tell because the body shops work volume and are sloppy. Overspray on rubber, new exhaust on a 30,000 mile vehicle, seams that don't line up, no door dings or minor scratches on doors, brand new glass, etc. And they'll still waive the carfax in your face and tell you it's ever been wrecked.  Soapbox over


OTOH, you bought a Chrysler, Depending on the year and model, almost every issue you listed could have come directly from the factory, including excessive road noise and whistling windows.

Even the overspray on rubber could have been caused by the dealership with a paint booth in the service shop.  I've seen an entire storage lot get covered in overspray because of poor paint booth exhaust from the building.

I'm not saying Carfax is accurate, just that your proof may not necessarily be actual proof.  Carfax is only as accurate as the shop is at reporting repairs.  If a used dealership buys it damaged, for instance, they don't always report the repairs properly if they do it in-house.
 
2021-06-09 2:43:13 PM  

NikolaiFarkoff: It's EXACTLY why you get one -- fast-depreciating nouveau riche cars like that either have a flawless history (and a price to match) or a really scary one.

I remember in James May's "Cars of the People" (excellent show) he talked about Rolls Royce's downfall in the UK in the 80s as the models from the 60s/70s got so cheap, they became a cheap, ironically countercultural status symbol for a lot of people. And you know how fastidious punk rockers are about car maintenance, that's the oldest stereotype in the book.


Wasn't James May's introduction to Top Gear where he explained that he owned a Bently.  It was dirt cheap to buy (ok, about the price of a Honda.  Possibly a good if used Honda) but insanely expensive to maintain (hint: use GM fluid for the transmission.  That will save a kilobuck or two).  Also not easy to park or drive in narrow British streets.

Cyberluddite: steklo: [Fark user image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.

And take up 4 parking spaces too.


Back in the 1970s, my mom told me that a kid a lot older than me was working at the local Datson (not Nissan yet) dealer when they asked him to go and get a 280Z filled up.  So of course he also drove over to the local Burger King (where the cool kids worked.  I was never cool enough to work there) and go through drive through and tell everybody it cost "ten grand".

Maybe they needed some $2k floormats at the dealership so somebody had to go to Walmart.  And if its on the lot, take the Rolls.
 
2021-06-09 2:54:07 PM  
Back in the late 70's, the dealership my dad worked at had a relatively new Maserati Merak that he drove for awhile.  It felt like you were doing 30 when you were really doing 70, and no matter how softly 8-year-old me tried shutting the door at school, I always got yelled at for slamming it.  lol

Oh yeah, and the back seat was a literal 90-degree angle affair.  Definitely NOT meant for anything bigger than a small child.
 
2021-06-09 2:55:50 PM  

Ragin' Asian: I wouldn't buy ditch weed off a guy from Long Island City, much less a used Rolls. I'd check for a dead body in the trunk before driving it off for the lot.


Yup.  That's a sketch part of Queens.
 
2021-06-09 3:03:10 PM  

steklo: NewportBarGuy: The kind of people that buy that level of used luxury car? Oh helllllllllllllll yes.

I am very lower middle class. It's just the way it is. But I dream of owning a Rolls Royce. My friend has one, car looks great, rides wonderful but as mentioned a pain in the ass for parts, service, wondering what some idiot is going to do with the car in a parking lot...(vandalism) and as much as it is a status symbol, I want the car for the luxury...it's the name. Rolls Royce. At one time, it meant owning a car that was built by hand by people who cared.

Now? Its nothing more then a very expensive BMW.

In my life time, I've owned numerous cars and let me tell you all cars suffer from Entropy.

all cars.


That's not a dig on you man... Hell, I tried to buy a Jag when I was younger. It's people who want the flash but have no f*cking conception of how much parts and maint. on those things run. A brake job on a Rolls done at the dealer is going to bankrupt most normal people. Same with the exhaust. Tires... electricals? It's a nightmare.

The people are buy them... it's not always very lower middle class... just "unable to look up repair costs and depreciation"

I'd love to have one of the older Rolls or Bentley's, but I just know I can't afford to maintain them. That's why the prices SEEM low when you look at Hemmings or them.

Always dream. ALWAYS DREAM!! One day I'll have my 1957 Ferrari Testarossa. One day.
 
2021-06-09 3:11:49 PM  
Odds of it being a show "rental" for people seems pretty high..Someone buys a car like that, then
leases it out to someone that wants to play rich person for their friends for prom or Instagram/TikTok or use it
to make a video or something like that, seems pretty high.. A lot of low end recording artists, "influencers" and
D-list people do crap like  that..They "rent" their entire lifestyle for the cameras..It's all just as much of
a put-on as any movie or TV show set.. Like people that take pics of themselves in fancy hotel lobbies
or in front of private jets, those things that anyone can walk up and do for free, but they give the IMPRESSION
that the person in the pic is using or owns or lives in that place, when they don't,it's all a put-on..
 
2021-06-09 3:12:57 PM  

Cyberluddite: steklo: [Fark user image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.

And take up 4 parking spaces too.


a guy did that one Christmas season with his Jaguar at a local mall in the days when malls used ALL their spaces during the holiday shopping rush.  I was both extremely annoyed, and, for some reason in possession of a dark blue windbreaker.   I put it on, and pretended to be mall security and directed four people into the other 3/4 of the 4 spaces he was occupying (if they asked, and only one of them did, I told them the car was on display for a raffle later in the week.)  When I left the mall I saw the owner of the car, having an angry animated conversation with the ACTUAL mall security where  he was expressing what a rush he was in and then giving him a lot of "what are you gonna do?' gestures
 
2021-06-09 3:15:38 PM  

assalon5: Hey Nurse!: I've had horrible luck with carfax. As long as a car isn't titled as salvage, it can be wrecked then sold for repair and put back on a dealer's lot with a clean carfax report. I bought a Chrysler years ago. My first clue was the emblem in the trunk was upside down. It made tons of road noise and the windows whistles on the highway. Repair guy told me the frame wasn't straight. That's when I found out carfax is worthless. Now when I'm shopping used cars (I have 4 teens) I look closely. It's easy to tell because the body shops work volume and are sloppy. Overspray on rubber, new exhaust on a 30,000 mile vehicle, seams that don't line up, no door dings or minor scratches on doors, brand new glass, etc. And they'll still waive the carfax in your face and tell you it's ever been wrecked.  Soapbox over

For what it is worth I try to purchase kinda rarer classic cars I feel almost all new cars tend to look the same, so I use BAT* I think I got 3  carfax reports for near $100,  but even a farked up carfax  beats hands down heading to another state to see the car *in person.  Nothing sux more than wasting a day or two on the easy things that can be spotted.

/bring a trailer dot com is a good way to find experts on that particular type of car. We have our latest (S2000) from a collector itś  almost 20 year old and style has some styling in it. Just have to be willing to pay to have it vetted properly. Oh and classic tags.


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Kid at a high school where I taught.
 
2021-06-09 3:21:49 PM  

Hey Nurse!: I've had horrible luck with carfax. As long as a car isn't titled as salvage, it can be wrecked then sold for repair and put back on a dealer's lot with a clean carfax report. I bought a Chrysler years ago. My first clue was the emblem in the trunk was upside down. It made tons of road noise and the windows whistles on the highway. Repair guy told me the frame wasn't straight. That's when I found out carfax is worthless. Now when I'm shopping used cars (I have 4 teens) I look closely. It's easy to tell because the body shops work volume and are sloppy. Overspray on rubber, new exhaust on a 30,000 mile vehicle, seams that don't line up, no door dings or minor scratches on doors, brand new glass, etc. And they'll still waive the carfax in your face and tell you it's ever been wrecked.  Soapbox over


I wouldn't say that the Carfax report is worthless - you just have to understand its limitations.

First, it tells you how many previous owners the car had and if it was ever in a rental car fleet.

It also lets you know if the previous owners took it to reputable maintenance shops because they report all service down to the oil changes. If a car with 20k+ miles has nothing on the Carfax, it likely indicates that the owner(s) had the car serviced at places like Jiffy Lube..

And of course, when you buy used, always have an independent mechanic thoroughly checkout the car before the sale is final.
 
2021-06-09 4:00:35 PM  

Hey Nurse!: I've had horrible luck with carfax. As long as a car isn't titled as salvage, it can be wrecked then sold for repair and put back on a dealer's lot with a clean carfax report. I bought a Chrysler years ago. My first clue was the emblem in the trunk was upside down. It made tons of road noise and the windows whistles on the highway. Repair guy told me the frame wasn't straight. That's when I found out carfax is worthless. Now when I'm shopping used cars (I have 4 teens) I look closely. It's easy to tell because the body shops work volume and are sloppy. Overspray on rubber, new exhaust on a 30,000 mile vehicle, seams that don't line up, no door dings or minor scratches on doors, brand new glass, etc. And they'll still waive the carfax in your face and tell you it's ever been wrecked.  Soapbox over


Former Claims Adjuster for GEICO here - Carfax was always a "guidance" never a rule. Truth is that the data from Car Fax is provided by humans, and more often humans with an agenda. Your mechanic/body shop is under no obligation to report the work done on a car - it also doesn't cover work done by non-professionals or arm chair mechanics so you're right to doubt it - it's better than no information, but not nearly the comprehensive life story of a car they make it out to be.
 
2021-06-09 4:09:08 PM  

steklo: [Fark user image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.


If you show it off at a Dollar General, you won't even have to wash it.
 
2021-06-09 4:23:07 PM  
Not all cheap old Rollers are for show only:

Driving a '69 Rolls Royce Shadow to the Arctic in the middle of winter
Youtube VIdNcbsgOiM
 
2021-06-09 4:40:16 PM  

NewportBarGuy: steklo: [Fark user image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.

The kind of people that buy that level of used luxury car? Oh helllllllllllllll yes.


I once interviewed for a job at a dealership for used luxury cars. The guy who interviewed me gave off the exact same level of douchey vibe as Don Jr. and I'm Eric. Also, it sounded like the guy currently holding the position I was interviewing for was going to get fired for reasons beyond his control, perhaps because he hadn't been lying enough to get the info on cars that they wanted.
 
2021-06-09 4:44:09 PM  

Ragin' Asian: I wouldn't buy ditch weed off a guy from Long Island City, much less a used Rolls. I'd check for a dead body in the trunk before driving it off for the lot.


i made the mistake of buying a Model 944 from a guy out on LIC and he farked me good on the paperwork. the Title was from the original owner, a woman in Georgia who owned a chain of beauty shops. what a massive PITA it was getting that thing through Ohio MV. the Title came with multiple hand written Bill of Sale's as the car traded hands but was never registered as time went by. hot damn money pit.
 
2021-06-09 5:18:43 PM  
FTFA: For instance, October of 2017 shows that the vehicle was listed for sale on 10-27 with 33,911 miles. But exactly two months later on 12-27, it was listed for sale with 33,239 miles. How'd it lose 672 miles?

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2021-06-09 5:53:10 PM  
I smell insurance fraud, and smoke, lots of smoke damage.
 
2021-06-09 5:54:05 PM  

assalon5: Hey Nurse!: I've had horrible luck with carfax. As long as a car isn't titled as salvage, it can be wrecked then sold for repair and put back on a dealer's lot with a clean carfax report. I bought a Chrysler years ago. My first clue was the emblem in the trunk was upside down. It made tons of road noise and the windows whistles on the highway. Repair guy told me the frame wasn't straight. That's when I found out carfax is worthless. Now when I'm shopping used cars (I have 4 teens) I look closely. It's easy to tell because the body shops work volume and are sloppy. Overspray on rubber, new exhaust on a 30,000 mile vehicle, seams that don't line up, no door dings or minor scratches on doors, brand new glass, etc. And they'll still waive the carfax in your face and tell you it's ever been wrecked.  Soapbox over

For what it is worth I try to purchase kinda rarer classic cars I feel almost all new cars tend to look the same, so I use BAT* I think I got 3  carfax reports for near $100,  but even a farked up carfax  beats hands down heading to another state to see the car *in person.  Nothing sux more than wasting a day or two on the easy things that can be spotted.

/bring a trailer dot com is a good way to find experts on that particular type of car. We have our latest (S2000) from a collector itś  almost 20 year old and style has some styling in it. Just have to be willing to pay to have it vetted properly. Oh and classic tags.


Ah, BAT. Kind of a mixed bag. As a seller, you can sometimes benefit by last minute feeding frenzies. OTOH, I hate, Hate, HATE, their pretentious AF, yet boiler plate descriptions. Cars don't have optional features, they are "fitted with" them. It's not rear wheel drive, "power is delivered to the rear wheels," etc..

Don't get me started in the self-described experts commenting on the auctions. I have several friends who've sold cars through them, and I usually track the comments when that happens. Dude, if you're going to strenuously advise someone to pass on a 911 'cause it "hasn't had the IMS fix applied," maybe you should learn which 911s had the issue (hint, an '88 Carrera is not on the list). And that '95 M3 isn't "obviously not original because it's missing stability control," it never had it in the first place.

/But at least they're not EAG
 
2021-06-09 7:38:38 PM  

sinko swimo: Ragin' Asian: I wouldn't buy ditch weed off a guy from Long Island City, much less a used Rolls. I'd check for a dead body in the trunk before driving it off for the lot.

i made the mistake of buying a Model 944 from a guy out on LIC and he farked me good on the paperwork. the Title was from the original owner, a woman in Georgia who owned a chain of beauty shops. what a massive PITA it was getting that thing through Ohio MV. the Title came with multiple hand written Bill of Sale's as the car traded hands but was never registered as time went by. hot damn money pit.


You really need to check everything when buying used by cars from Long Island there are so mane people with friends who will forge paperwork.There are still rusty cars salvaged after Sandy and even Katrina sold around here.
 
2021-06-09 8:04:12 PM  
I was thinking Instagram influencers who just want the thing for a few weeks to look prosperous and impressive and then need to sell it on.
 
2021-06-09 8:52:54 PM  

creckert: steklo: [Fark user image image 800x450]

yup...that's what I want to do when I get a Rolls Royce, show it off at a god-damned Walmart...Geez.

I try to park next to those people who take up multiple spaces even if it means a walk. I'm also an asshole


When I was a young pup I drove a POS Geo Metro and I made it a mission to park as close as possible to these assholes as I could, even if it meant crawling out the passenger side or the back hatch.
 
2021-06-09 9:00:30 PM  

thornhill: I wouldn't say that the Carfax report is worthless - you just have to understand its limitations.

First, it tells you how many previous owners the car had and if it was ever in a rental car fleet.

It also lets you know if the previous owners took it to reputable maintenance shops because they report all service down to the oil changes. If a car with 20k+ miles has nothing on the Carfax, it likely indicates that the owner(s) had the car serviced at places like Jiffy Lube..

And of course, when you buy used, always have an independent mechanic thoroughly checkout the car before the sale is final.


I am a mechanic, and I will tell you that Carfax really is a crap shoot. Not all shops want Carfax crawling through their computers. Those jackasses actually use data collected to advertise to shops customers for competitors who pay for it. Also I witnessed multiple times where a customer would be recommend a repair like say a timing belt kit, decline the repair, and then the Carfax would erroneously report that the timing belt was replaced. On a Honda, Hyundai, VW or similar interference engine this could fool a new owner into thinking the belt is new leading to expensive, preventable engine damage or failure.
 
2021-06-09 9:08:24 PM  
Carfax should use this in their adds.
 
2021-06-09 9:26:01 PM  
That's not a dig on you man... Hell, I tried to buy a Jag when I was younger. It's people who want the flash but have no f*cking conception of how much parts and maint. on those things run. A brake job on a Rolls done at the dealer is going to bankrupt most normal people. Same with the exhaust. Tires... electricals? It's a nightmare.

The people are buy them... it's not always very lower middle class... just "unable to look up repair costs and depreciation"

I'd love to have one of the older Rolls or Bentley's, but I just know I can't afford to maintain them. That's why the prices SEEM low when you look at Hemmings or them.

Always dream. ALWAYS DREAM!! One day I'll have my 1957 Ferrari Testarossa. One day.


This!! As someone who has worked on Rolls-Royces for almost 40 years I can tell you the reaction I get when I tell RR owners "you have just entered the land of $10,000 brake jobs" is priceless! And if you read the RR maintenance schedule they want you to do that every 4 years! To me it's far more important to get the car (any car) inspected before you buy it rather than a Carfax.
 
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