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(Car and Driver)   Now that Ford has announced the F-150 lightning, Lordstown admits it actually doesn't even have the money to produce its long-awaited electric pickup. Whoopsie   (caranddriver.com) divider line
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6 days ago  
This was a big part of the reason people were so down on Tesla for so long.  That when the big auto makers started gearing up to make EVs in quantity it would suck out all the oxygen for any EV startups.
 
6 days ago  
Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.
 
Juc
6 days ago  
A startup that ends up as vapourware? *gasp* I am shocked
 
6 days ago  
Who? I feel I stay pretty up to date with developments in the EV space, certainly not perfect, but I never heard of these guys.

Meanwhile, there's like a dozen new brands of EV rolling off assembly lines in China. Remember when Japan ate US automotive manufacturer's collective lunch? Nothing of value was learned, apparently.
=Smidge=
 
6 days ago  

theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.


I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.
 
6 days ago  

Juc: A startup that ends up as vapourware? *gasp* I am shocked


Jerry Wiegert shakes an angry fist in your direction.
 
6 days ago  
I dunno, I heard their electric truck program was on fire...
 
6 days ago  

Short Victoria's War: I dunno, I heard their electric truck program was on fire...


You should see Rimac's.  It's smashing!

/Sorry Richard Hammond
 
6 days ago  

Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.


Cause those are dump names?  Could that be the reason?
 
6 days ago  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.

Cause those are dump names?  Could that be the reason?


Yeah, Hummer is clearly superior.
 
6 days ago  
"I actually have no money" is a common theme with Trump cultists.

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6 days ago  

Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.


xXx_SiLvErAdO6969_xXx
 
6 days ago  
"Going concern" is boilerplate language in a lot of companies.

This is a pretty good sign that it's a great investment at $10, and the market seems to agree with that statement. Mahle is the only other disruptive tech that can supplant what they are doing in their motor division, nothing else comes anywhere close considering how contemporary winding machines work. Elaphe's motors will beat anything else in savings from QC alone, not to mention the patented optimized design for not only CNC winding machines, but also the ability to stamp out windings on a die, allowing motors to affordably scale to any size.

If Mahle's magnet-less motor takes off next year it's going to destroy the rare earth bubble and send copper into into the stratosphere. You thought chip shortages were bad, just wait till manufacturers can't afford the copper to go into the circuit boards!
 
6 days ago  

Dr Jack Badofsky: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.

Cause those are dump names?  Could that be the reason?

Yeah, Hummer is clearly superior.


The Hummer brand is worth at least $150 million.
 
6 days ago  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Dr Jack Badofsky: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.

Cause those are dump names?  Could that be the reason?

Yeah, Hummer is clearly superior.

The Hummer brand is worth at least $150 million.


And the Chevy Truck brand is worth?...  A few billion.
 
6 days ago  
Can't get a Lordtown? Well, I'm not worried - I'm all-in for an Elio.  Sure it's not electric, but 84 mpg for $7450 is a great deal, and it's definitely not vaporware. Right? I mean, it's barely been over ten years since they announced the product, I'm sure it will be out any day now...
 
6 days ago  

Smidge204: Who? I feel I stay pretty up to date with developments in the EV space, certainly not perfect, but I never heard of these guys.

Meanwhile, there's like a dozen new brands of EV rolling off assembly lines in China. Remember when Japan ate US automotive manufacturer's collective lunch? Nothing of value was learned, apparently.
=Smidge=


It's a hope and a prayer startup that was focused on repurposing the Lordstown GM plant right off of I-80 in Ohio.  The plant was shut down fairly recently, and the hope was to transition the workforce to a new company fairly quickly.  Oh, and GM essentially loaned the startup the money to buy it - it wasn't so much of a sale as "here, you pay for the upkeep for a few years in case we reverse our decision, in the mean time we'll reduce the cost of shutting down the plant by $40M on the books".  And now they're saying nobody was willing to kick in the $$ to actually start production.  Since Ford is actually hitting the market in the spring of 2022 with a full dealer network... not worth tossing $$ into something that might not ever go anywhere.  The total end result is that GM will now show an additional $40M in closure costs.

There's been maybe 3 or 4 threads about it over the last few years.  The summary:  You didn't miss anything.
 
6 days ago  
So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?
 
6 days ago  

Juc: A startup that ends up as vapourware? *gasp* I am shocked


Especially one touted by Trump. I mean, it absolutely has to be legit for Trump to be associated with it, right?
 
6 days ago  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Yeah, Hummer is clearly s


This is the industry that names diesel engines like condoms:
- Duramax
- Powerstroke
- Cummins
 
6 days ago  

dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?


Yes and somewhat.
Cybertruck will still be bought by the faithful, but it'll never post sales numbers like the F-150.
The Maverick being a hybrid doesn't help either.
 
6 days ago  

DecemberNitro: Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.

xXx_SiLvErAdO6969_xXx


Well, that's a bit much...
 
6 days ago  

Dr Jack Badofsky: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Dr Jack Badofsky: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.

Cause those are dump names?  Could that be the reason?

Yeah, Hummer is clearly superior.

The Hummer brand is worth at least $150 million.

And the Chevy Truck brand is worth?...  A few billion.


But they don't want to take market share away from Chevy.

And they also sell Cadillac, GMC, and Buick.

Now they sell Hummer.
 
6 days ago  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Juc: A startup that ends up as vapourware? *gasp* I am shocked

Jerry Wiegert shakes an angry fist in your direction.


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I'm pretty sure I read about his supercar back in the 80s.
 
6 days ago  

overzelus: Dr Jack Badofsky: Yeah, Hummer is clearly s

This is the industry that names diesel engines like condoms:
- Duramax
- Powerstroke
- Cummins


I see what you're saying, but that's just a coincidence to giggle at.  Duramax, and jus some weird abbreviation some marketing team came up with, so part credit for that.  Powerstroke is one of the four parts of an ICE cycle, and Cummins is the name of one of the two founders. of the company.
 
6 days ago  
at least Nikola had something they could roll downhill.
 
6 days ago  

Carter Pewterschmidt: Dr Jack Badofsky: Juc: A startup that ends up as vapourware? *gasp* I am shocked

Jerry Wiegert shakes an angry fist in your direction.

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I'm pretty sure I read about his supercar back in the 80s.


I should add that he died recently, so the fist-shaking is from beyond the grave.

/Vector W8
 
6 days ago  

Dr Jack Badofsky: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.

Cause those are dump names?  Could that be the reason?

Yeah, Hummer is clearly superior.


It's the antithesis of the product. Like naming your airship Titanic.
 
6 days ago  
In the last six months, suddenly everybody is going to build a farkton of electric vehicles in just a few years.  I'm officially calling bullshiat.  I don't expect pure electric vehicles to even be 10% of total vehicle sales for many, many decades.
 
6 days ago  

Dr Jack Badofsky: theteacher: Lordstown is facing new competition on the EV-pickup front from Ford, which recently unveiled the crowd-pleasing F-150 Lightning EV.

I don't know why GM went with Hummer instead of calling it SilvErado or Silverado E or something like that.  Adding it as part of your normal model line will make it blend in easier.


To cash in. I think this model of Ford will make them make a EV or hybrid Colorado.
 
6 days ago  

dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?


LOL no on the cybertruck. I hated it when it launched but it's going to sell like hotcakes.

1) it has 240v, 110v and air supply in the bed which is going to be a game changer for contractors.

2) I hated the angles, but those are going to be insanely easy (and lower cost) to vinyl wrap for businesses

I thought it was meh until I thought about it more
 
6 days ago  

Loki009: dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?

LOL no on the cybertruck. I hated it when it launched but it's going to sell like hotcakes.

1) it has 240v, 110v and air supply in the bed which is going to be a game changer for contractors.

2) I hated the angles, but those are going to be insanely easy (and lower cost) to vinyl wrap for businesses

I thought it was meh until I thought about it more


Can you imagine being next to that thing on a sunny day? farking safety hazard.
 
6 days ago  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Loki009: dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?

LOL no on the cybertruck. I hated it when it launched but it's going to sell like hotcakes.

1) it has 240v, 110v and air supply in the bed which is going to be a game changer for contractors.

2) I hated the angles, but those are going to be insanely easy (and lower cost) to vinyl wrap for businesses

I thought it was meh until I thought about it more

Can you imagine being next to that thing on a sunny day? farking safety hazard.


Like I said, I don't love the design. But I can appreciate the opportunity it provides
 
6 days ago  

Loki009: dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?

LOL no on the cybertruck. I hated it when it launched but it's going to sell like hotcakes.

1) it has 240v, 110v and air supply in the bed which is going to be a game changer for contractors.

2) I hated the angles, but those are going to be insanely easy (and lower cost) to vinyl wrap for businesses

I thought it was meh until I thought about it more


No charging a car on a jobsite. Most of us want to get home after work, not wonder why the magic power generator is dead and can't get us home.

Dewalt sells a battery bank power unit. And I've never seen one on site.

We all use plenty of gas and diesel generators though, or keep a healthy supply of batteries for the power tools.

Honestly the only time I touch an outlet on a jobsite is when I need to charge batteries. The only tools I ever see get plugged in are wet saws (tile) and a ridged pipe threader for sprinklers and boilers/chillers.

And I've shut power off multiple times on sites with the pipethreader. It draws A LOT of amperage. I wonder how long one of those trucks could power one.

The rule there is "get electricity and spider boxes established so sprink can do there thing".

Residential? Power tools have advanced so much that we can all run battery powered tools for the most part, framers might find it useful to run the chop saw. But even that can be be powered pretty well.

If anything it's a gimmick for tailgating and parties or like my dad's jeep with electronic disconnect lockers, features it has but will never be used.
 
6 days ago  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Loki009: dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?

LOL no on the cybertruck. I hated it when it launched but it's going to sell like hotcakes.

1) it has 240v, 110v and air supply in the bed which is going to be a game changer for contractors.

2) I hated the angles, but those are going to be insanely easy (and lower cost) to vinyl wrap for businesses

I thought it was meh until I thought about it more

Can you imagine being next to that thing on a sunny day? farking safety hazard.


No shiat. It's why trucks have the diamond pattern on the rear door: solid metal panels are blinding
 
6 days ago  

DecemberNitro: "I actually have no money" is a common theme with Trump cultists.

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As always, everything Trump touches dies, even if he's only there briefly for a photo op.
 
6 days ago  

Axeofjudgement: Loki009: dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?

LOL no on the cybertruck. I hated it when it launched but it's going to sell like hotcakes.

1) it has 240v, 110v and air supply in the bed which is going to be a game changer for contractors.

2) I hated the angles, but those are going to be insanely easy (and lower cost) to vinyl wrap for businesses

I thought it was meh until I thought about it more

No charging a car on a jobsite. Most of us want to get home after work, not wonder why the magic power generator is dead and can't get us home.

Dewalt sells a battery bank power unit. And I've never seen one on site.

We all use plenty of gas and diesel generators though, or keep a healthy supply of batteries for the power tools.

Honestly the only time I touch an outlet on a jobsite is when I need to charge batteries. The only tools I ever see get plugged in are wet saws (tile) and a ridged pipe threader for sprinklers and boilers/chillers.

And I've shut power off multiple times on sites with the pipethreader. It draws A LOT of amperage. I wonder how long one of those trucks could power one.

The rule there is "get electricity and spider boxes established so sprink can do there thing".

Residential? Power tools have advanced so much that we can all run battery powered tools for the most part, framers might find it useful to run the chop saw. But even that can be be powered pretty well.

If anything it's a gimmick for tailgating and parties or like my dad's jeep with electronic disconnect lockers, features it has but will never be used.


What is your average trip distance to a job. My understanding is this will have 500 miles + on the battery pack. So if you set say a 100 mile reserve that's a ton of available power
 
6 days ago  

dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?


Nope, as far as I've been able to determine, the F-150L is one heck of a well-planned worker's truck.  The frunk is huge, making for secure tool storage.  The power converter eliminates the need to have a generator, which are always the cheapest and noisiest ones on the market.  You don't have to haul gasoline around, either.

The Cybertruck is a super-duper toy.  Totally different market.

/long on TSLA
//Do not like any of the Teslas
///Maybe Berlin will come up with something for people who drive cars to get places.
 
6 days ago  

overzelus: dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?

Yes and somewhat.
Cybertruck will still be bought by the faithful, but it'll never post sales numbers like the F-150.
The Maverick being a hybrid doesn't help either.


Nothing Tesla does will sell like the F-150.  Ford sells more fleet F-150s every year than Tesla sells all vehicles combined

Loki009: dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?

LOL no on the cybertruck. I hated it when it launched but it's going to sell like hotcakes.

1) it has 240v, 110v and air supply in the bed which is going to be a game changer for contractors.

2) I hated the angles, but those are going to be insanely easy (and lower cost) to vinyl wrap for businesses

I thought it was meh until I thought about it more


Contractors need things like flat rails for their truck/saddle box.

And the electric F150 has a ~10kw generator built into it with all the requisite outlets(it's an upgrade over the hybrid which has a ~7kw generator with four 120v/20a outlets, and a 240v/30a twist-lock NEMA outlet).
 
6 days ago  

Geotpf: In the last six months, suddenly everybody is going to build a farkton of electric vehicles in just a few years.  I'm officially calling bullshiat.  I don't expect pure electric vehicles to even be 10% of total vehicle sales for many, many decades.


It's only nine years away from the UK banning all petrol and diesel car sales. Hybrids get another five years. Tesla's are selling like hot cakes, Ford are selling tons of the MachE, Fiat have just bought out the new Fiat 500, and it's EV only, no petrol version, and so on.
 
6 days ago  

Loki009: What is your average trip distance to a job. My understanding is this will have 500 miles + on the battery pack. So if you set say a 100 mile reserve that's a ton of available power


I've worked jobs 30 miles away, I've worked jobs 200 miles away. I average probably about 90-120 a day.

Problem is starting amperage on motors and compressors. A pipe threader requires a lot of torque.

Sure could be nice to charge batteries and stuff. But generally we are prepared for that.

Again my main argument is most of our tools don't need to be plugged in or require pneumatics anymore (except framers)

Also tesla is more of a status vehicle. We drive vans or trucks, in my case a Subaru, awd and less than half the cost of the 4wd tesla and snow and ice is my happy time while mocking the people who did not invest in AWD or 4WD .

It usually happens in bad inclement weather I'm the one that shows up.
 
6 days ago  

Axeofjudgement: Loki009: What is your average trip distance to a job. My understanding is this will have 500 miles + on the battery pack. So if you set say a 100 mile reserve that's a ton of available power

I've worked jobs 30 miles away, I've worked jobs 200 miles away. I average probably about 90-120 a day.

Problem is starting amperage on motors and compressors. A pipe threader requires a lot of torque.

Sure could be nice to charge batteries and stuff. But generally we are prepared for that.

Again my main argument is most of our tools don't need to be plugged in or require pneumatics anymore (except framers)

Also tesla is more of a status vehicle. We drive vans or trucks, in my case a Subaru, awd and less than half the cost of the 4wd tesla and snow and ice is my happy time while mocking the people who did not invest in AWD or 4WD .

It usually happens in bad inclement weather I'm the one that shows up.


I appreciate this perspective.

Thanks
 
6 days ago  

Geotpf: In the last six months, suddenly everybody is going to build a farkton of electric vehicles in just a few years.  I'm officially calling bullshiat.  I don't expect pure electric vehicles to even be 10% of total vehicle sales for many, many decades.


Talkies are probably just a novelty, too.
 
6 days ago  

bhcompy: overzelus: dbirchall: So is the F-150L going to kill off Rivian, too?  And what about the Tesla Cybertruck?

Yes and somewhat.
Cybertruck will still be bought by the faithful, but it'll never post sales numbers like the F-150.
The Maverick being a hybrid doesn't help either.

Nothing Tesla does will sell like the F-150.  Ford sells more fleet F-150s every year than Tesla sells all vehicles combined


This is known. Only wonder is why Tesla's valuation is so much higher. Irrational exuberance?
 
6 days ago  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Geotpf: In the last six months, suddenly everybody is going to build a farkton of electric vehicles in just a few years.  I'm officially calling bullshiat.  I don't expect pure electric vehicles to even be 10% of total vehicle sales for many, many decades.

Talkies are probably just a novelty, too.


Ford and GM currently each sell almost no pure electric vehicles.  Maybe 1% or 2% of total sales.  They are going to go to 30, 40, 50% of sales in like a decade?  Bullshiat.

If such a change was going to happen, how come hybrids don't sell more?  They've been mainstream for decades now and barely sell, what 3% of total vehicle sales?  Less?

Now, yes, I guess the government could force such changes.  But I don't think the masses want electric vehicles, and they will loudly scream at any elected official that tries to ban gas powered cars and/or vote them out completely.
 
6 days ago  

Axeofjudgement: Loki009: What is your average trip distance to a job. My understanding is this will have 500 miles + on the battery pack. So if you set say a 100 mile reserve that's a ton of available power

I've worked jobs 30 miles away, I've worked jobs 200 miles away. I average probably about 90-120 a day.

Problem is starting amperage on motors and compressors. A pipe threader requires a lot of torque.

Sure could be nice to charge batteries and stuff. But generally we are prepared for that.

Again my main argument is most of our tools don't need to be plugged in or require pneumatics anymore (except framers)

Also tesla is more of a status vehicle. We drive vans or trucks, in my case a Subaru, awd and less than half the cost of the 4wd tesla and snow and ice is my happy time while mocking the people who did not invest in AWD or 4WD .

It usually happens in bad inclement weather I'm the one that shows up.


Milwaukee has a battery powered threader I've had my eye on for a bit there are also battery powered nailers as well so soon compressors might be a thing of the past. I haven't needed a generator on site in at least two years if I had to use it tomorrow I'm not even sure it would start.
 
6 days ago  

overzelus: Dr Jack Badofsky: Yeah, Hummer is clearly s

This is the industry that names diesel engines like condoms:
- Duramax
- Powerstroke
- Cummins


Peterbuilt
 
6 days ago  

overzelus: This is known. Only wonder is why Tesla's valuation is so much higher. Irrational exuberance?


Same reason why Elon mentioning dogecoin and bitcoin rocks the crypto world
 
6 days ago  

Loki009: Axeofjudgement: Loki009: What is your average trip distance to a job. My understanding is this will have 500 miles + on the battery pack. So if you set say a 100 mile reserve that's a ton of available power

I've worked jobs 30 miles away, I've worked jobs 200 miles away. I average probably about 90-120 a day.

Problem is starting amperage on motors and compressors. A pipe threader requires a lot of torque.

Sure could be nice to charge batteries and stuff. But generally we are prepared for that.

Again my main argument is most of our tools don't need to be plugged in or require pneumatics anymore (except framers)

Also tesla is more of a status vehicle. We drive vans or trucks, in my case a Subaru, awd and less than half the cost of the 4wd tesla and snow and ice is my happy time while mocking the people who did not invest in AWD or 4WD .

It usually happens in bad inclement weather I'm the one that shows up.

I appreciate this perspective.

Thanks


No problem bud. It's just gimmicky. It looks like it would be tackling the working class needs. But it's a solution without a problem.

Or possibly a problem in and of itself.

Now hey if you wanna drink beer and play music all night by a bonfire? Perfect.

I don't think Ole Elon was ever a blue collar boy

And while saying "look how utilitarian this is! I'm going after the truck market which caters to contractors and adding tools for the job!"

He isn't doing that. And then there's the days I'm called from jobsite to jobsite to put out fires. The last thing I need to worry about is "oh God oh God will my car get home".

And back when I was a national tech doing 14 hour road trips? Forget it.

Sure it's a screwed perception. But people keep trying to shove EV down my throat. And some of our lifestyles and work would be significantly harmed going EV let alone adding these cute little things to say "working man's truck"

I do all the things people with trucks do from a damn Impreza. With better fuel economy and I go faster in snow and ice and rain. I can strap my own ladder, or even have a 6 ft inside. I have all my tools and misc. Parts.

I also get 28-32 MPG on an AWD vehicle with no weirdness going on (and yes I've replaced cells in a prius battery pack... the red triangle of death sucks. Also I'm not gonna pay 4k bucks for a new battery pack. And Toyota did some cheap cheap soldering, when the wires come off your water pump at 65 mph it's not fun. The car is dead)
 
6 days ago  

RTOGUY: Milwaukee has a battery powered threader I've had my eye on for a bit there are also battery powered nailers as well so soon compressors might be a thing of the past. I haven't needed a generator on site in at least two years if I had to use it tomorrow I'm not even sure it would start.


Ah but will it roll groove and thread 4" black iron? Victaulic fittings are a huge thing in hydronic heating/cooling as well as sprink.

I would say their pex expansion tool is frigging awesome and I'm black and yellow for life.

But like you, I don't need anything. If I for some reason need to start trim cutting or some weird shiat I'd grab some 60v flex batteries and have a cordless miter saw good for over 200 chops.

My bread qnd butter comes from manual tools or an impact driver. Why the hell do I care If my car can be a charging station except for a cellphone? Which is getting insuranced out tomorrow cause enough silica and drywall has build up in the port that it's effectively dead?
 
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