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(Yahoo)   Royal Caribbean flip-flops on unvaccinated cruisers. Its fans aren't so happy   (news.yahoo.com) divider line
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2021-06-09 10:51:57 AM  
Here is hoping a probably outcome happens. A large outbreak onboard and no country will allow the ship entry because of the stupidity of the ship's operator so it languishes at sea while people die from lack of care all because desantis wants to kill more people.
 
2021-06-09 10:55:02 AM  
Maybe the U.S. Navy submarine corps can use them for target practice?
 
2021-06-09 11:36:29 AM  
It's the only way to spread the Indian variant to the islands.
Also really disappointed in them. I've gone on several with a few different lines and I liked RC. Far better than the horror stories you hear about Carnival. But, I wouldn't touch them with a 40 foot cattle prod if thats how they're going to run it.
 
2021-06-09 11:37:22 AM  
If you care about getting sick, why on earth are you taking a cruise in the first place?
 
2021-06-09 11:37:23 AM  
"Those who are unvaccinated or unable to verify vaccination will be required to undergo testing and follow other protocols, which will be announced at a later date."

How long until Ron bans that too?
 
2021-06-09 11:37:45 AM  
COVID is the least scary thing you can get on a cruise ship.

Sea Herpes, for instance.
 
2021-06-09 11:39:32 AM  
Customer: Signs up for all vaccinated cruise
Carnival Plague Lines: Removes vaccine requirement
Customer:  I can haz refund
Carnival Plague Lines : HAHAHAHAHAH. no
 
2021-06-09 11:42:00 AM  

eurotrader: Here is hoping a probably outcome happens. A large outbreak onboard and no country will allow the ship entry because of the stupidity of the ship's operator so it languishes at sea while people die from lack of care all because desantis wants to kill more people.


The solution is simple.

Drop them off at Ron's house.  He clearly has no problem with them.

I'm sure he'll love having a ship full of diseased angry tourists over for dinner.
 
mjg
2021-06-09 11:42:05 AM  
Nah, the marketing is off. They need a 'Covid Freedom Cruise' - all unvaccinated crew and patrons.
 
db2
2021-06-09 11:42:35 AM  

dothemath: COVID is the least scary thing you can get on a cruise ship.

Sea Herpes, for instance.


You think Land Herpes is bad? You haven't seen anything yet.
 
2021-06-09 11:42:51 AM  
I'm so glad they once again chose profits over human lives.
 
2021-06-09 11:44:54 AM  
Did I need one more reason to not go on a cruise?

Nope.
 
2021-06-09 11:46:22 AM  
Is burial at sea still practiced?
 
2021-06-09 11:46:36 AM  

dothemath: COVID is the least scary thing you can get on a cruise ship.

Sea Herpes, for instance.


Totally worth it

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2021-06-09 11:47:28 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: If you care about getting sick, why on earth are you taking a cruise in the first place?


Give me convenience or give me death!
 
2021-06-09 11:47:37 AM  
What happened to the whole "cruise lines will avoid Florida altogether if DeSantis doesn't let them set vaccination requirements?"

Or was that only other cruise lines?
 
2021-06-09 11:47:45 AM  

dothemath: COVID is the least scary thing you can get on a cruise ship.

Sea Herpes, for instance.


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2021-06-09 11:47:48 AM  
So Royal Caribbean cruises just became a lot more fun.  Thousands of stupid, ignorant bigots packed together.
 
2021-06-09 11:48:39 AM  
These aren't American flagged ships docking in Florida nor are they operating solely between Floridian ports.  They're flagged in other countries and will operate outside of the United States.  Royal Caribbean is operated through the Bahamas and Malta.

The FAA and TSA gets to regulate airline flights and rail service, whether intrastate, interstate, or international.

This seems like it should be a Federal concern to regulate and for Florida to only, perhaps, require stricter requirements from there.
 
2021-06-09 11:49:30 AM  

mjg: Nah, the marketing is off. They need a 'Covid Freedom Cruise' - all unvaccinated crew and patrons.


Brilliant
 
2021-06-09 11:50:01 AM  
FTA:A law in Florida will fine companies $5,000 for asking customers if they have been vaccinated

Interesting law from the party that talks all day about limiting business regulations and protecting all forms of free speech.
 
2021-06-09 11:50:31 AM  
Well, Ron, I hope you have a plan to replace all the tourist revenue that Royal Caribbean passengers bring to your state every year.

/Will never travel to Florida as long as Defarkface is in office.
//Will never spend a dime in any GQP-run state.
 
2021-06-09 11:52:25 AM  
I'm curious about restrictions that may apply at stops where the passengers can go ashore.  I guess many of the islands are so desperate for tourists that they will look the other way.
 
2021-06-09 11:53:10 AM  

akya: FTA:A law in Florida will fine companies $5,000 for asking customers if they have been vaccinated

Interesting law from the party that talks all day about limiting business regulations and protecting all forms of free speech.


No kidding. I thought they were in favor of business and the free market. Why are they regulating cruise ships and forcing them to accept unvaccinated passengers? Let the cruise ship companies decide how to run their business.
 
2021-06-09 11:53:21 AM  
What choice did they really have? I can only imagine the net loss of either shuttering the business or trying to relocate ports to outside of FL. It isn't a one-time fee, it's 5K per person -- they would be paying the government way more than their earnings.

Ronnie boy farked them and they just have to ride it out and hope the next governor changes legislation. They tried to do the right thing at least.
 
2021-06-09 11:53:48 AM  
So they can't go to islands outside US territory?
Would've been easier to just dock outside FL for a few weeks until DeSantis changes his mind
 
2021-06-09 11:54:03 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: dothemath: COVID is the least scary thing you can get on a cruise ship.

Sea Herpes, for instance.

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Is that from the Titanic director's cut?

/It's 6 hours long.
 
2021-06-09 11:57:12 AM  
Well, if the cruise industry gives in and they lose business as a result, they deserve what they get. Capitalism cuts both ways.
 
2021-06-09 12:02:09 PM  

eurotrader: Here is hoping a probably outcome happens. A large outbreak onboard and no country will allow the ship entry because of the stupidity of the ship's operator so it languishes at sea while people die from lack of care all because desantis wants to kill more people.


Hoping for it is not good.  But we probably will have more plague cruises.
 
2021-06-09 12:05:18 PM  

you need help: What choice did they really have? I can only imagine the net loss of either shuttering the business or trying to relocate ports to outside of FL. It isn't a one-time fee, it's 5K per person -- they would be paying the government way more than their earnings.

Ronnie boy farked them and they just have to ride it out and hope the next governor changes legislation. They tried to do the right thing at least.


Would it really be that much to relocate to another state? It's not like the ships aren't super mobile or anything. The new states would likely be thrilled to have them and super accommodating.
 
2021-06-09 12:06:18 PM  
Methinks we will read of this cruise company again...
 
2021-06-09 12:06:32 PM  

SpectroBoy: Customer: Signs up for all vaccinated cruise
Carnival Plague Lines: Removes vaccine requirement
Customer:  I can haz refund
Carnival Plague Lines : HAHAHAHAHAH. no


Carnival and Royal Caribbean are two separate companies.
 
2021-06-09 12:07:08 PM  

Raoul Eaton: eurotrader: Here is hoping a probably outcome happens. A large outbreak onboard and no country will allow the ship entry because of the stupidity of the ship's operator so it languishes at sea while people die from lack of care all because desantis wants to kill more people.

Hoping for it is not good.  But we probably will have more plague cruises.


A better world requires less idiots and when the stupid remove themselves from earth it is a good thing. Harming others in the process is not a good but blame must be clearly placed on republicans for hating science and basic decency.
 
2021-06-09 12:07:38 PM  

mjg: Nah, the marketing is off. They need a 'Covid Freedom Cruise' - all unvaccinated crew and patrons.


Sounds like a wonderful idea.  The US Navy likes to dispose of older destroyers and other smaller ships via live fire exercises, maybe there are some older replenishment ships in the reserves awaiting disposal that cost be given to them for one last go.  A win-win for everybody involved, especially the gunners needing the practice and family members tired of their plague rat relatives.
 
2021-06-09 12:07:48 PM  

Great_Milenko: Prank Call of Cthulhu: If you care about getting sick, why on earth are you taking a cruise in the first place?

Give me convenience or give me death!


Is that you, Jello?
 
2021-06-09 12:17:49 PM  

Fireproof: you need help: What choice did they really have? I can only imagine the net loss of either shuttering the business or trying to relocate ports to outside of FL. It isn't a one-time fee, it's 5K per person -- they would be paying the government way more than their earnings.

Ronnie boy farked them and they just have to ride it out and hope the next governor changes legislation. They tried to do the right thing at least.

Would it really be that much to relocate to another state? It's not like the ships aren't super mobile or anything. The new states would likely be thrilled to have them and super accommodating.


I don't know. I do know that those ships require a lot of draft and berth and would probably require dredging and parking accommodation and being close to an airport as a lot of people fly in just for their cruise. Add on that they're looking at split vacationers anyway, (vaccine vs not), and they are probably thinking that additional expense doesn't make sense.
 
2021-06-09 12:18:08 PM  
That freaking law is unconstitutional. Biden should do an executive order on vaccines on grounds of national security.
 
2021-06-09 12:19:44 PM  
I'll be down in the infectorium.
 
2021-06-09 12:26:26 PM  
If I ran a state near Florida I would look to offer a way to accommodate the cruise lines.  Problem is that when you look at the states nearest to Florida you can't see that happening.
 
2021-06-09 12:28:08 PM  

Needlessly Complicated: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: dothemath: COVID is the least scary thing you can get on a cruise ship.

Sea Herpes, for instance.

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Is that from the Titanic director's cut?

/It's 6 hours long.


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2021-06-09 12:30:42 PM  

ameeriklane: akya: FTA:A law in Florida will fine companies $5,000 for asking customers if they have been vaccinated

Interesting law from the party that talks all day about limiting business regulations and protecting all forms of free speech.

No kidding. I thought they were in favor of business and the free market. Why are they regulating cruise ships and forcing them to accept unvaccinated passengers? Let the cruise ship companies decide how to run their business.


Classic Republican stance.  They're against government spending or regulation, except for all the times when it helps them.
 
2021-06-09 12:30:51 PM  
I live in Florida.

1.For those saying "would it not be easier to dock in other states?"   Not really, Florida offers the shortest path to the Carribean.  Docking in other states would add time at sea.

2.DeSantis is pushing this because the guy who owns the majority of the docks used in Florida by cruise lines, is one of his largest campaign donors(guy also owns the neighborhood that DeSantis gave all the poor people vaccination first.

3.DeSantis is opening up the state to huge liability lawsuits when an entire cruise ship becomes infected that docked in Florida.

All the cruise lines have to do is get all the destinations to require proof of vaccination before they are let on shore.  Then those that do not have it will have to stay in the ship. DeSantis cannot control other countries/locales laws and guidelines.

The reality is most old people are scared as fark of dying and even the rabid Trumpers in the Villages are all vaccinated.  Even the Trumpers in my family got the shot.

The reality is he is only doing this for his base. To own the libs, cause all those old people and cruisers probably got the shot.

However, unfortunately, we have a shiat ton of anti vaxxers who have moved to Florida because of his lax policies and because they like sucking that fascist boot.
 
2021-06-09 12:34:34 PM  

runwiz: If I ran a state near Florida I would look to offer a way to accommodate the cruise lines.  Problem is that when you look at the states nearest to Florida you can't see that happening.


Not a state, but I'm sure they could use the business:

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2021-06-09 12:40:51 PM  

Dinjiin: runwiz: If I ran a state near Florida I would look to offer a way to accommodate the cruise lines.  Problem is that when you look at the states nearest to Florida you can't see that happening.

Not a state, but I'm sure they could use the business:

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Whatever cuts the economy of florida. Florida is run by scumbags and its economy should be in the shiatter till they stop voting for wannabe dictators.
 
2021-06-09 12:45:37 PM  
I would think that the cruise line's insurance companies would insist on vax proof to provide coverage, but I dunno.
 
2021-06-09 12:47:29 PM  

Dinjiin: runwiz: If I ran a state near Florida I would look to offer a way to accommodate the cruise lines.  Problem is that when you look at the states nearest to Florida you can't see that happening.

Not a state, but I'm sure they could use the business:

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It is easier to drive to Florida than than fly to Puerto Rico.

And the majority of people who go on cruises, are white people who do not want to go to an island full "hispanics".

Latinos in the USA tend to go the the Dominican Republic, Mexico, and Colombia for their vacations.

Hell, I live in Florida.  I can go to Tampa or Orlando to leave on a cruise.  Each an hour drive from my house.  And I can pay for a shuttle service 50 bucks each way so I do not have to drive.

Puerto Rico is a 3 hour flight from Orlando. Which costs 300 bucks.  So you are adding an extra three hours to wherver you are coming from plus cash on top of that.  Not to mention going to an airport, getting on and off an extra set of planes and hauling your luggage around.

Unfortunately, Florida is the prime spot.
 
2021-06-09 12:50:17 PM  
Just a thought I had .  What happens when they stop at the ports of other countries and those countries demand to see proof of vaccination before they can disembark?
 
2021-06-09 12:53:28 PM  
"So Professor, you're telling me this contraption will tell us who is lying about their COVID vaccination status?"

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2021-06-09 12:53:57 PM  

Dinjiin: ameeriklane: akya: FTA:A law in Florida will fine companies $5,000 for asking customers if they have been vaccinated

Interesting law from the party that talks all day about limiting business regulations and protecting all forms of free speech.

No kidding. I thought they were in favor of business and the free market. Why are they regulating cruise ships and forcing them to accept unvaccinated passengers? Let the cruise ship companies decide how to run their business.

Classic Republican stance.  They're against government spending or regulation, except for all the times when it helps them.


Or hurts others.
 
2021-06-09 12:56:15 PM  

Dinjiin: runwiz: If I ran a state near Florida I would look to offer a way to accommodate the cruise lines.  Problem is that when you look at the states nearest to Florida you can't see that happening.

Not a state, but I'm sure they could use the business:

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That would be perfect.  And just think of the investment in infrastructure that would be needed, the jobs that would be created to upgrade airports, seaports, hotels, etc.  You're talking billions of dollars flooding into one of the most economically depressed parts of our country, followed by a seasonal source of tourism revenue.

The fact that it would be giant "fark You" to DeSantis and the state of Florida would be a bonus, like the sprinkles on top of an ice cream sundae.
 
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