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2021-06-09 1:26:02 PM  
What can be so hard about it?
 
2021-06-09 1:57:36 PM  

kdawg7736: What can be so hard about it?


Well you see, it is so confusing to figure out where and when to go.  Plus those tiny bases are so hard to touch.  Coaches are mean and give contradictory instructions at times.  Its just so hard...
 
2021-06-09 2:03:50 PM  
Because they've big-data-optimized it into homers or nothing.  The percentage of plate appearances that result in home runs or strikeouts has gone way up in the last 15 years.
 
2021-06-09 2:14:43 PM  
I will say, baserunning mistakes are hilarious, and make me want to watch baseball more.
 
2021-06-09 2:19:30 PM  
Fark it.  Let's just get rid of the infield fly rule.  Then we'll really have some chaos on the bases.
 
2021-06-09 2:24:59 PM  
"Baserunning is terrible today," Astros manager Dusty Baker said. "The two things we need the most work on is outfielders throwing and baserunning. Baserunning is just horrible."

"It's easier to just cheat. They don't do anything about it and the fans don't care."
 
2021-06-09 2:28:47 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: "Baserunning is terrible today," Astros manager Dusty Baker said. "The two things we need the most work on is outfielders throwing and baserunning. Baserunning is just horrible."

"It's easier to just cheat. They don't do anything about it and the fans don't care."


Um...you are aware that Dusty Baker wasn't the manager of the Astros during that period, right?
 
2021-06-09 2:29:39 PM  
TOOTBLAN
 
2021-06-09 2:31:49 PM  
Guys get less practice baserunning because they're on base less. The league is younger than it was a decade or two ago, too. Combination of fewer PEDs and front offices realizing meh veterans aren't worth big contracts (thinking like the Todd Fraziers of the world, not megacontracts).

Probably less baserunning practice in the minors, too, because there's more emphasis on hitting. Not saying this is wrong, just that there's only so much time in a day to practice skills.
 
2021-06-09 2:39:08 PM  

FrancoFile: Because they've big-data-optimized it into homers or nothing.  The percentage of plate appearances that result in home runs or strikeouts has gone way up in the last 15 years.


Also, they like to pace themselves.   Every pitch, step out of the box, stretch, adjust your equipment, look around, scratch your balls, wander back into the box, look at another pitch that isn't exactly in your zone, repeat the previous steps.  Only golf has slower play.
 
2021-06-09 2:45:05 PM  

ElwoodCuse: TOOTBLAN


Ah yes!  Courtesy of Ryan Theriot, who ran the bases like a man who didn't want to be on the bases anymore.  I like how they mentioned Kris Bryant as one of the games best baserunners.  Cubs don't win the World Series without the 2 baserunning clinics he put on that game.  First was the 4th inning, scoring from 3B on a short pop fly to center, that Rajai Davis caught while cutting in front of the left fielder.  Knowing Davis' momentum was taking him away from the play, and that his arm is crap, Bryant took off and slid in under the tag.  Then in the 5th he worked a 2-out walk off of Andrew Miller...no easy task.  And then scored from 1st on a single to RF by Rizzo.  The RF was shading in the gap because it was Miller v. Rizzo, lefty v. lefty.  Not really expecting him to pull, so he had some distance to make up.  And it was a hit-and-run, so Bryant got a head start.  But the way he cut the bag at 2nd and 3rd was a work of art.  Never slowed.  Beat the play by 3 steps.  That's 2 runs.  The drought is 113 years and counting without those 2 plays.
 
2021-06-09 2:46:39 PM  

Stud Gerbil: FrancoFile: Because they've big-data-optimized it into homers or nothing.  The percentage of plate appearances that result in home runs or strikeouts has gone way up in the last 15 years.

Also, they like to pace themselves.   Every pitch, step out of the box, stretch, adjust your equipment, look around, scratch your balls, wander back into the box, look at another pitch that isn't exactly in your zone, repeat the previous steps.  Only golf has slower play.


What does that have to do with baserunning?
 
2021-06-09 2:47:53 PM  
"Baserunning is terrible today," Astros manager Dusty Baker said. "The two things we need the most work on is outfielders throwing and baserunning. Baserunning is just horrible."
Translated

"We turned players into micromanaged robots and chewed them out for not following the plan. Now I am complaining that the players follow the plan"
 
2021-06-09 2:56:50 PM  
I was watching a D-Backs game recently (yay, worst team in baseball) and ordinarily "smart" baserunner Nick Ahmed got inexplicably doubled off second.  he took a risky lead, and the hitter botched what I think was supposed to be a bunt down first, to the pitcher.  he spins around and easily throws to 2B, Nick was out by like, 2 feet at least.

they had the teams mic'd, and moment later showed the 2B/SS, whatever, talking to his coach, and he goes, "man, what was he thinking?  he's usually a good baserunner."  Coach: "yup, that was too easy.  but we'll take it."
 
2021-06-09 3:07:37 PM  
It's no coincidence that the slow death of the sac bunt, hitting the ball to the right side with a man on 2nd a no outs, the steal, a well executed hit and run, and the decline of baserunning skills in general have all happened at the same time.  The game is evolving more toward "Me big powerful hitter, me hit ball over fence", and "Yeah?  Me big powerful pitcher, you can't hit my fastball with super spin rate and pine tar all over it".  It used to be a running joke that Adam Dunn was a three true outcome guy.  But he was Adam Dunn and at least he walked a lot and cranked 40 homers a year in his prime.  Now every team has a three true outcome guy it seems, but the walks and homeruns are fewer, and the strikeouts are more.  That's not how it's supposed to work.  Looking at you Joey Gallo, Kyle Schwarber, and the run down husk of Chris Davis.  The Mendoza line is supposed to be a scarlet letter, not something you strive for.
 
2021-06-09 3:10:24 PM  

Cubs300: The drought is 113 years and counting without those 2 plays.


I particularly have enjoyed how the Cubs have had two of the best baserunners in the game over the last 5 years for completely differing reasons, where Bryant is one of the most methodical and surgical baserunners I've ever seen and Javier Baez is just farking insane, does whatever the hell he feels like doing, and somehow it works out.

Exhibit A:

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Exhibit B:

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2021-06-09 3:14:07 PM  

Outshined_One: Cubs300: The drought is 113 years and counting without those 2 plays.

I particularly have enjoyed how the Cubs have had two of the best baserunners in the game over the last 5 years for completely differing reasons, where Bryant is one of the most methodical and surgical baserunners I've ever seen and Javier Baez is just farking insane, does whatever the hell he feels like doing, and somehow it works out.

Exhibit A:

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Exhibit B:

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The Pirates should have suffered immediate relegation for that play.
 
2021-06-09 3:25:13 PM  
Do you want to watch them tag up and go from second to third, or do you want to see some dingers?
 
2021-06-09 3:33:37 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: HotWingConspiracy: "Baserunning is terrible today," Astros manager Dusty Baker said. "The two things we need the most work on is outfielders throwing and baserunning. Baserunning is just horrible."

"It's easier to just cheat. They don't do anything about it and the fans don't care."

Um...you are aware that Dusty Baker wasn't the manager of the Astros during that period, right?


Yeah. He's just benefitting by working for a cheating organization.

Besides, we're to understand that everyone cheats which is why it's not a big deal.
 
2021-06-09 3:38:54 PM  
Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu:The Pirates should have suffered immediate relegation for that play.

In a sane league, they'd have been playing single-A ball since PNC Park opened. And I say that as a Pittsburgher.
 
2021-06-09 4:12:28 PM  
Spin rate is up 200 RPM league wide, there's already been six no-hitters when the season record is 7, there's going to be records set for strikeouts and home runs for like the fifth time in six years, and the league-wide batting average is the lowest it's been since The Year of the Pitcher.

But yeah, baserunning.  That's what's wrong with the modern game.
 
2021-06-09 4:18:05 PM  
These things even out over time - a few games ago Juan Soto stood and watched a pop up that fell to the ground three feet in front of home plate and was thrown out by 30 feet.  When it was dropped he looked like a snake had just bit him.  Didn't make the article as it was just a failure to run failure.
 
2021-06-09 4:35:08 PM  
Ty Cobb thought trying to hit home runs was the wrong way to play the game. He was right.
 
2021-06-09 5:08:28 PM  

red5ish: Ty Cobb thought trying to hit home runs was the wrong way to play the game. He was right.


Yeah, his idea was to sharpen his spikes and try to cut people sliding into the base.
 
2021-06-09 5:22:04 PM  

doctorguilty: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu:The Pirates should have suffered immediate relegation for that play.

In a sane league, they'd have been playing single-A ball since PNC Park opened. And I say that as a Pittsburgher.


A sane league would force a sale for showing a demonstrated unwillingness to compete, and they should have started with Connie Mack as soon as the Commissioner's Office was instituted, if not both Philly teams and both Boston teams.
 
2021-06-09 5:43:39 PM  
Watching Tom Emanski videos should be a requirement
 
2021-06-09 5:47:48 PM  

Outshined_One: Cubs300: The drought is 113 years and counting without those 2 plays.

I particularly have enjoyed how the Cubs have had two of the best baserunners in the game over the last 5 years for completely differing reasons, where Bryant is one of the most methodical and surgical baserunners I've ever seen and Javier Baez is just farking insane, does whatever the hell he feels like doing, and somehow it works out.

Exhibit A:

[Fark user image 512x288] [View Full Size image _x_]

Exhibit B:

[Fark user image 640x344] [View Full Size image _x_]


Exhibit A needs to be made into a "Deal with it" gif.
 
2021-06-09 6:20:16 PM  
"Baserunning is terrible today," Astros manager Dusty Baker said. "The two things we need the most work on is outfielders throwing and baserunning. Baserunning is just horrible."

Fark the Astros*
Yea, I know Dusty wasn't with the team at the time, but fark him and the Astros*
 
2021-06-09 8:15:06 PM  

Hoopy Frood: doctorguilty: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu:The Pirates should have suffered immediate relegation for that play.

In a sane league, they'd have been playing single-A ball since PNC Park opened. And I say that as a Pittsburgher.

A sane league would force a sale for showing a demonstrated unwillingness to compete, and they should have started with Connie Mack as soon as the Commissioner's Office was instituted, if not both Philly teams and both Boston teams.


The Pirates were a middle of the road team in the 10s. They're currently in the beginning of an overdue rebuild. Update your talking points
 
2021-06-09 8:38:40 PM  
The players do not have good fundamentals
 
2021-06-09 8:43:10 PM  

Porkbelly: red5ish: Ty Cobb thought trying to hit home runs was the wrong way to play the game. He was right.

Yeah, his idea was to sharpen his spikes and try to cut people sliding into the base.


Debunked.
 
2021-06-09 9:26:33 PM  

TDWCom29: Hoopy Frood: doctorguilty: Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadu:The Pirates should have suffered immediate relegation for that play.

In a sane league, they'd have been playing single-A ball since PNC Park opened. And I say that as a Pittsburgher.

A sane league would force a sale for showing a demonstrated unwillingness to compete, and they should have started with Connie Mack as soon as the Commissioner's Office was instituted, if not both Philly teams and both Boston teams.

The Pirates were a middle of the road team in the 10s. They're currently in the beginning of an overdue rebuild. Update your talking points


Are they planning any big celebrations next year for the 30th anniversary of their last division title?
 
2021-06-09 10:01:55 PM  

Gulper Eel: Porkbelly: red5ish: Ty Cobb thought trying to hit home runs was the wrong way to play the game. He was right.

Yeah, his idea was to sharpen his spikes and try to cut people sliding into the base.

Debunked.


Right, and the Civil War wasn't fought over the slavery issue.
 
2021-06-09 11:38:39 PM  

Doctoral Candidate Zaius: Watching Tom Emanski videos should be a requirement


I am still hurt that Fred McGriff admitted that he never watched them.
 
2021-06-09 11:41:41 PM  

Arkanaut: I will say, baserunning mistakes are hilarious, and make me want to watch baseball more.


TOOTBLAN
 
2021-06-09 11:42:15 PM  

ElwoodCuse: TOOTBLAN


goddamnit
 
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