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(Metro)   Why do anti-vaxxers fear rational discussion?   (metro.co.uk) divider line
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1084 clicks; posted to Discussion » on 09 Jun 2021 at 8:20 AM (6 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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6 days ago  
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6 days ago  
Because deep down they know they're wrong and there's no rational explanation for stigginit? Especially stigginit that harms themselves more than anyone else.
 
6 days ago  
Authoritarianism requires that followers and subjects set aside truth, reason, and reality to be fully subservient.

Have you noticed the correlation between, antivaxxers and fascists?
 
6 days ago  
You're asking a question about rational discussions on a board where those don't exist.

You'd might as well go poll the local asylum.
 
6 days ago  

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6 days ago  
Because people who believe things are a certain way and have their identity tied to that "way", don't want to be convinced or challenged.  Yet, they will speak to that belief with gusto and confidence quite regularly because they need validation.

Also, a lot of them don't "fear" rational discussion, they just don't accept anything that disagrees with them.  "People have died" is the #1 thing I have heard from people, IRL, who refuse to get vaccinated.  They say that because the actual, real, excuse for not getting vaccinated is along the lines of, "Fox News and other right-wing sources have suggested that vaccination is bad and all of C19 restrictions and vaccination is a 'liberal' thing so I'm against it."
 
6 days ago  
You have to understand the Anti-Vaxxer/QAnon/GOP/MAGA/Evangelical​mind.

Unlike scientists and other reality-based people, on any subject, they start with an unshakable conclusion and then cherry-pick 'facts' to support it.

Case in point:
• Vaccines
• Flat-Earth theory
• 5G conspiracies
• Climate change
• Trickle-down economics
• Intelligent design
• Iraqi WMD
• Hunter Biden's laptop
• Rothschilds/Soros/Jewish global control
• Etc. etc. etc.

A normal person goes the opposite route, gathering evidence, forming a hypothesis, testing that hypotheses and arriving at a conclusion.

When asked what would change their minds at a debate between Bill Nye and creationist Ken Hamm, Nye said "evidence," and Hamm said, "nothing."

That's all you need to know to understand that it is pointless to engage with - let alone argue with - these people.
 
6 days ago  
FlashHarry:

Unlike scientists and other reality-based people, on any subject, they start with an unshakable conclusion and then cherry-pick 'facts' to support it.

Case in point:


Of course I forgot The Big Lie - the biggest lie of all.
 
6 days ago  
Anti-vaxxers think they're the rational ones.  And that's the problem.
 
6 days ago  
Probably the same reason that the government is using propaganda rather than rational discussion to try to convince them? Each thinks the other side is arguing in bad faith.
 
6 days ago  
Because they're cowards who are afraid of a tiny needle. Everything else is just smokescreen.
 
6 days ago  
Because they don't actually understand what they're spouting enough to be able to adapt to questions, comments and retort in a reasonable manner.  "Debate techniques" begin and end with Trump style debates.  Personal attacks, attempt to bully and shout over any possible contention.  There are no manners in that style of "debate".

I'm not a genius by any stretch, but typically anti vaxxers are a rung or two below average.  If they studied their studies as diligently as they do the Fakebook Mommy groups, they'd be actual doctors or statisticians to know the crap they're spewing is crap.

Some are hesitant because of how quickly the vaccine was developed and rolled out, but also don't understand just how much computer modelling has sped up that process instead of staying with petri dishes and manually counting cultures.  I'm sure that was part of the process to check the model but still, it's faster when you can rule out hundreds of generations and focus on the potential ones.
 
6 days ago  
Facts burn like ouchie medicine! Noooooo! I don' wannnnnna! Facts are the burny stuff! Nooooooo!
 
6 days ago  
Rational discussion? On the internet?  That is so cute.
 
6 days ago  
It's possible to support routine vaccination of people for measles, mumps, etc. and still have questions about these new vaccines.
 
6 days ago  
If they were rational they wouldn't be anti-vaxxers.
 
6 days ago  

rockymountainrider: Some are hesitant because of how quickly the vaccine was developed and rolled out, but also don't understand just how much computer modelling has sped up that process instead of staying with petri dishes and manually counting cultures.


From something I read somewhere, mRNA vaccines have been around 10 years or more.  It may be new to novel Coronavirus, but it isn't a total unknown thing.
 
6 days ago  

FlashHarry: A normal person goes the opposite route, gathering evidence, forming a hypothesis, testing that hypotheses and arriving at a conclusion.


A rational person, yes.  A normal person, usually not.
 
5 days ago  
Which is the one true religion?
 
5 days ago  

ko_kyi: A rational person, yes.  A normal person, usually not.


Sigh. You're probably right. And mountains of evidence should have led me - a rational person - to reach that conclusion!
 
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