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(The Week)   The federal government is contributing to climate change, needs to get rid of its energy wasting marijuana ban   (theweek.com) divider line
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851 clicks; posted to Politics » on 09 Jun 2021 at 10:12 PM (7 days ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2021-06-09 10:19:19 PM  
THC farts lower the earth's temperature.
 
2021-06-09 10:22:05 PM  
There are a million different good reasons to drop most of the federal regulation on marijuana and hemp. The miniscule energy savings are near the bottom of that list.
 
2021-06-09 10:23:37 PM  

emtwo: There are a million different good reasons to drop most of the federal regulation on marijuana and hemp. The miniscule energy savings are near the bottom of that list.


A few weeks ago, the feds raided a pot farm a d wound up discovering a crypto-mining sit. And I was just like, damn... they raided over something that shouldn't be illegal and shut down something that should be.
 
2021-06-09 10:23:46 PM  
Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?
 
2021-06-09 10:24:31 PM  

austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?


If we legalize pot, then how will we get the progressives to vote then?!
 
2021-06-09 10:30:32 PM  
Article's making a stupid point. The same politicians that want to keep weed illegal don't give a shiat about the climate either. Besides, it's a farking weed, not some exotic plant that only thrives in the Mediterranean and California. As long as the grower chooses strains that are suitable for their climate zone and soil conditions, they're good to go.
 
2021-06-09 10:34:57 PM  

MattytheMouse: austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?

If we legalize pot, then how will we get the progressives to vote then?!


Put X Box consoles and free pizzas at polling stations.
 
2021-06-09 10:35:23 PM  

austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?


It gives cops an easy way to arrest people and they don't want to lose out on getting paid to pick such low hanging fruit. If weed becomes legal at the federal level they will likely fight back with public intoxication fines that are ridiculously expensive for any red-eyed Ents that cross paths with John Law.
 
2021-06-09 10:36:52 PM  

MattytheMouse: austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?

If we legalize pot, then how will we get the progressives to vote then?!


Make the ballots out of hemp.
 
2021-06-09 10:38:12 PM  

pheelix: Article's making a stupid point. The same politicians that want to keep weed illegal don't give a shiat about the climate either. Besides, it's a farking weed, not some exotic plant that only thrives in the Mediterranean and California. As long as the grower chooses strains that are suitable for their climate zone and soil conditions, they're good to go.


Sure, marijuana can grow lots of places, but not necessarily at a marketable quality.

Assuming the feds allowed interstate marijuana commerce, we still wouldn't see much (if any) energy savings from outdoor grow ops. Most of the market would still prefer indoor grow for reasons of consistency, quality, and potency. And I imagine the majority of saved energy from growing outdoor would be immediately negated by the energy to ship it cross country.
 
7 days ago  
Box up any marijuanas you've left unused and send them to me
 
7 days ago  

aleister_greynight: MattytheMouse: austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?

If we legalize pot, then how will we get the progressives to vote then?!

Make the ballots out of hemp.


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7 days ago  

fragMasterFlash: austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?

It gives cops an easy way to arrest people and they don't want to lose out on getting paid to pick such low hanging fruit. If weed becomes legal at the federal level they will likely fight back with public intoxication fines that are ridiculously expensive for any red-eyed Ents that cross paths with John Law.


So what you're saying is that we should abolish the police? I agree!
 
7 days ago  

emtwo: pheelix: Article's making a stupid point. The same politicians that want to keep weed illegal don't give a shiat about the climate either. Besides, it's a farking weed, not some exotic plant that only thrives in the Mediterranean and California. As long as the grower chooses strains that are suitable for their climate zone and soil conditions, they're good to go.

Sure, marijuana can grow lots of places, but not necessarily at a marketable quality.

Assuming the feds allowed interstate marijuana commerce, we still wouldn't see much (if any) energy savings from outdoor grow ops. Most of the market would still prefer indoor grow for reasons of consistency, quality, and potency. And I imagine the majority of saved energy from growing outdoor would be immediately negated by the energy to ship it cross country.


There are a very large number of farmers in CA that would gladly rip out staple crops for a cash crop like MJ if there was an actual mechanism to sell it.  And CA has a lot of good farmland - no need for indoor anything to get the target quality.  Hell, MJ makes top wine producers look on with envy over returns per acre.
 
7 days ago  

MattytheMouse: austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?

If we legalize pot, then how will we get the progressives to vote then?!


Lure them to the polls with weed and snacks.  Party van, baby
 
7 days ago  

MadHatter500: emtwo: pheelix: Article's making a stupid point. The same politicians that want to keep weed illegal don't give a shiat about the climate either. Besides, it's a farking weed, not some exotic plant that only thrives in the Mediterranean and California. As long as the grower chooses strains that are suitable for their climate zone and soil conditions, they're good to go.

Sure, marijuana can grow lots of places, but not necessarily at a marketable quality.

Assuming the feds allowed interstate marijuana commerce, we still wouldn't see much (if any) energy savings from outdoor grow ops. Most of the market would still prefer indoor grow for reasons of consistency, quality, and potency. And I imagine the majority of saved energy from growing outdoor would be immediately negated by the energy to ship it cross country.

There are a very large number of farmers in CA that would gladly rip out staple crops for a cash crop like MJ if there was an actual mechanism to sell it.  And CA has a lot of good farmland - no need for indoor anything to get the target quality.  Hell, MJ makes top wine producers look on with envy over returns per acre.


The wine world could stand to be knocked down a couple pegs. Way too reliant on privileged-ass rich white people.
 
7 days ago  

austerity101: MadHatter500: emtwo: pheelix: Article's making a stupid point. The same politicians that want to keep weed illegal don't give a shiat about the climate either. Besides, it's a farking weed, not some exotic plant that only thrives in the Mediterranean and California. As long as the grower chooses strains that are suitable for their climate zone and soil conditions, they're good to go.

Sure, marijuana can grow lots of places, but not necessarily at a marketable quality.

Assuming the feds allowed interstate marijuana commerce, we still wouldn't see much (if any) energy savings from outdoor grow ops. Most of the market would still prefer indoor grow for reasons of consistency, quality, and potency. And I imagine the majority of saved energy from growing outdoor would be immediately negated by the energy to ship it cross country.

There are a very large number of farmers in CA that would gladly rip out staple crops for a cash crop like MJ if there was an actual mechanism to sell it.  And CA has a lot of good farmland - no need for indoor anything to get the target quality.  Hell, MJ makes top wine producers look on with envy over returns per acre.

The wine world could stand to be knocked down a couple pegs. Way too reliant on privileged-ass rich white people.


I won't spend more than $10 on wine unless it's in box or jug form.
 
7 days ago  
Yep...if most crunchies had annnnnny idea what goes into producing quality kind-bud, they might have cause for pause.

It's no hippy paradise, I promise you.
 
7 days ago  
All I can think about is that ANOM privacy app written by the FBI that snagged 22 tons of a plant that's legal in like 25 states.
 
7 days ago  

kittyhas1000legs: austerity101: MadHatter500: emtwo: pheelix: Article's making a stupid point. The same politicians that want to keep weed illegal don't give a shiat about the climate either. Besides, it's a farking weed, not some exotic plant that only thrives in the Mediterranean and California. As long as the grower chooses strains that are suitable for their climate zone and soil conditions, they're good to go.

Sure, marijuana can grow lots of places, but not necessarily at a marketable quality.

Assuming the feds allowed interstate marijuana commerce, we still wouldn't see much (if any) energy savings from outdoor grow ops. Most of the market would still prefer indoor grow for reasons of consistency, quality, and potency. And I imagine the majority of saved energy from growing outdoor would be immediately negated by the energy to ship it cross country.

There are a very large number of farmers in CA that would gladly rip out staple crops for a cash crop like MJ if there was an actual mechanism to sell it.  And CA has a lot of good farmland - no need for indoor anything to get the target quality.  Hell, MJ makes top wine producers look on with envy over returns per acre.

The wine world could stand to be knocked down a couple pegs. Way too reliant on privileged-ass rich white people.

I won't spend more than $10 on wine unless it's in box or jug form.


I just go for the good stuff, like 4Loko and rubbing alcohol.
 
7 days ago  
Do it. And slash the military budget by 75% too 👍
 
6 days ago  

Likwit: Do it. And slash the military budget by 75% too 👍


But then how will we defend Texas from the corpses of the female troops that the male troops raped?
 
6 days ago  

moothemagiccow: Likwit: Do it. And slash the military budget by 75% too 👍

But then how will we defend Texas from the corpses of the female troops that the male troops raped?


Easy. We don't defend Texas.
 
6 days ago  

austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?


Suppressing minority and leftist political movements? I mean that's practically the only real, if not said out loud, reason Nixon set this whole farce in motion.
 
6 days ago  
Letting congressholes fly home 20 times a year contributes a lot more.
 
6 days ago  
Oh for f**k's sake.  As if the people who put out weed are all the biggest friends of the environment in the world.

https://ctmirror.org/category/ct-view​p​oints/colorado-lawyer-connecticut-shou​ld-not-make-our-marijuana-mistake/

"...this industry genetically modifies plants at a level that would make Monsanto blush, fouls our planet with chemicals and wasteful growing systems, harms the poor and children, and is dominated by the wealthy and privileged"

"Costs for treatment, lost productivity, and other externalities of increased intoxication and addiction, plus harm to children, have skyrocketed."

"To engineer these high THC levels, corporations grow inside gigantic warehouses. Growers of this GMO eliminate natural pollination and clone mutant plants. They use arrays of large artificial lights, wasting huge quantities of energy. Massive rows of air conditioning units run, day and night. Genetically-modified indoor plants are also more susceptible to powdery mildew, black mold, spider mites, or others. Thus, growers soak the plants in chemicals, pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers. These toxic carcinogens are either ingested by the consumer, or foul Colorado's air and water. On a proportional basis, indoor corporate marijuana is Colorado's worst environmental polluter."

"The effect of Colorado's new marijuana is not a high at all, but either a dead numbness or a scary psychotic paranoia, especially with edibles or concentrates. Frequent users lose billions of their brain cells, and develop tolerance and craving. A stupefied and permanently addicted customer base."

The guy that wrote that isn't Kevin Sabet or some old-time drug warrior.  He's a lawyer who was partly responsible for writing Amendment 64, which legalized weed at retail in Colorado.

austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?


Yes.  The legal producers f**k up the environment, and the stuff they put out makes people sick.  See the above link.
 
6 days ago  
Solution; grow it everywhere. Not only will the low THC levels of ditch weed prevent teens from getting high but those plants will also capture carbon into the soil.
 
6 days ago  

NathanAllen: Solution; grow it everywhere. Not only will the low THC levels of ditch weed prevent teens from getting high but those plants will also capture carbon into the soil.


Why do we keep a groomed swale on the side of the roadway? Why burn all that gas with tractors that have little emission control? Grow hemp! Several times a year a driver will fall asleep with cruise control on and drift into a tree across the swale at 80 mph Hemp could at least slow them down and wake them up I'm not even talking real pot but yes, grow it everywhere
 
6 days ago  

NathanAllen: Solution; grow it everywhere. Not only will the low THC levels of ditch weed prevent teens from getting high but those plants will also capture carbon into the soil.


Brilliant idea, man!  Of course it would never occur to anyone that ditch weed could be harvested and converted into hash oil.
 
6 days ago  

tirob: Oh for f**k's sake.  As if the people who put out weed are all the biggest friends of the environment in the world.

https://ctmirror.org/category/ct-viewp​oints/colorado-lawyer-connecticut-shou​ld-not-make-our-marijuana-mistake/

"...this industry genetically modifies plants at a level that would make Monsanto blush, fouls our planet with chemicals and wasteful growing systems, harms the poor and children, and is dominated by the wealthy and privileged"

"Costs for treatment, lost productivity, and other externalities of increased intoxication and addiction, plus harm to children, have skyrocketed."

"To engineer these high THC levels, corporations grow inside gigantic warehouses. Growers of this GMO eliminate natural pollination and clone mutant plants. They use arrays of large artificial lights, wasting huge quantities of energy. Massive rows of air conditioning units run, day and night. Genetically-modified indoor plants are also more susceptible to powdery mildew, black mold, spider mites, or others. Thus, growers soak the plants in chemicals, pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers. These toxic carcinogens are either ingested by the consumer, or foul Colorado's air and water. On a proportional basis, indoor corporate marijuana is Colorado's worst environmental polluter."

"The effect of Colorado's new marijuana is not a high at all, but either a dead numbness or a scary psychotic paranoia, especially with edibles or concentrates. Frequent users lose billions of their brain cells, and develop tolerance and craving. A stupefied and permanently addicted customer base."

The guy that wrote that isn't Kevin Sabet or some old-time drug warrior.  He's a lawyer who was partly responsible for writing Amendment 64, which legalized weed at retail in Colorado.

austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?

Yes.  The legal producers f**k up the environment, and the stuff ...


Well that's a wall of bullshiat.

tirob: NathanAllen: Solution; grow it everywhere. Not only will the low THC levels of ditch weed prevent teens from getting high but those plants will also capture carbon into the soil.

Brilliant idea, man!  Of course it would never occur to anyone that ditch weed could be harvested and converted into hash oil.


And?

You're such a sad little sack.
 
6 days ago  

MattytheMouse: austerity101: Are there any reasons not to legalize it that aren't based on either moralistic hand-wringing or appeasing other corporate interests?

If we legalize pot, then how will we get the progressives to vote then?!


I worry about this, and it is a major reason why our politics are cyclical.  The Left gets a major social issue win, like Marriage Equality, and we let our guard down because the world is moving in the right direction, and then the conservatives get back in power and do something horrible.

So yeah, we legalize weed, and a bunch of hipsters will not bother voting in the following election, and then the Republicans will go out and try to criminalize avocados, because they lead to Satanism and homosexuality, and we will be right back to voting in force the next election.
 
6 days ago  

Bandito King: shiat.

tirob: NathanAllen: Solution; grow it everywhere. Not only will the low THC levels of ditch weed prevent teens from getting high but those plants will also capture carbon into the soil.

Brilliant idea, man! Of course it would never occur to anyone that ditch weed could be harvested and converted into hash oil.

And?


And the people who harvest it and convert it into hash oil will sell it to teenagers, thus aggravating the problem our friend claims he's solving.  Are you really that dense or are you just pulling my leg?
 
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